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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] still 2020.0.1 ?

2021-05-05 Thread Andreas Wacknitz


Am 05.05.21 um 10:17 schrieb Aurélien Larcher:

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:41 AM Stephan Althaus <
stephan.alth...@duedinghausen.eu> wrote:


Hi!

I am just curious, the pkg versions still state *2020.0.2*, but we are
in 2021 now ?


I do not know if it is the case in this particular instance but we used to
delay bumping the year if an update of the userland compiler was foreseen.
This was to avoid bumping twice.



# pkg update -v
  Packages to update:  402
   Estimated space available: 28.24 GB
Estimated space to be consumed:  2.34 GB
 Create boot environment:  Yes
   Activate boot environment:  Yes
Create backup boot environment:   No
Rebuild boot archive:  Yes

Changed packages:
openindiana.org
SUNWcs
  0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
SUNWcsd
  0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
...


Stephan


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I am not sure whether changing the branch version makes sense when
releasing a new snapshot version because we have a rolling release model.
We don't compile and publish every package on a regular basis (which is
IMO a problem but not doable with our limited resources) and thus a
change would only apply to newly published packages anyways.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible? (Solved]

2021-05-05 Thread Gerard Arthus

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On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 5:00 PM Lou Picciano  wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
> This conversation is interesting from a number of perspectives, and none
> of them related to OI (in my case, though they could be at some point…)
>
> Comments about bad sync connections, lousy DVI adapters, etc. got my ears
> perked up. With kids forced back home last year, I’d rarely done so much
> intensive build/install/re-configure cycles in recent memory. Decided to do
> all this on an ‘easy(?)’, bullet-proof, well-tested(?) OS. Yup, Ubuntu*.
> Well, turns out Ubuntu is not quite so bullet-proof. And, among the
> problems which included variable boot results, weird boot loader setup,
> crazy confusion about latest Wifi hardware, etc. were the worst of all:
> those related to VIDEO cards and adapters. biggest single symptom was a
> frequent complete inability for the video adapter to ’sense’ the monitor
> resolution(s).
>
> Real pain in the ass.
>
> Always productive here, even if sometimes in serendipitous ways.
>
> * (I avoid MS like The Black Death.)
>
> > On Apr 16, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss <
> openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> >
> > To summarize:
> >
> > I swapped PSUs and graphics cards including putting the card from #3 in
> #4
> >
> > I booted from the 2020.10 hard disk and Live Image
> >
> > I swapped the KVM cables and ports
> >
> > I tried the other PCIe slot that will take the graphics card.
> >
> > I put a scope on the 5 V and 12 V rails.
> >
> > After all that agony I finally tracked it down. A couple of junk DVI-VGA
> adapters! Somehow in my search for the cause of the kernel panics I failed
> to notice that the display resolution was wrong when I was running 2020.10
> in #4
> >
> > After all this I'm exhausted. But I've never lost a battle with a piece
> of computer HW and was not about to start. I'd like to shoot these, but
> that would require more trouble than they are worth. So I am going to crush
> them with a 20 ton hydraulic press. If there were someone I disliked
> enough, I'd give them away.
> >
> > The moral of this sad tale is, "Don't put untested parts in your spares
> bin!" I bought these to have some spares on hand, but did not test them
> when i received them. They were still in the bags. I damaged my old one for
> #4 while shifting HW.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I still have the kernel panics to deal with :-(
> >
> > Reg
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible? (Solved]

2021-05-05 Thread Lou Picciano

Gentlemen:

This conversation is interesting from a number of perspectives, and none of 
them related to OI (in my case, though they could be at some point…)

Comments about bad sync connections, lousy DVI adapters, etc. got my ears 
perked up. With kids forced back home last year, I’d rarely done so much 
intensive build/install/re-configure cycles in recent memory. Decided to do all 
this on an ‘easy(?)’, bullet-proof, well-tested(?) OS. Yup, Ubuntu*. Well, 
turns out Ubuntu is not quite so bullet-proof. And, among the problems which 
included variable boot results, weird boot loader setup, crazy confusion about 
latest Wifi hardware, etc. were the worst of all: those related to VIDEO cards 
and adapters. biggest single symptom was a frequent complete inability for the 
video adapter to ’sense’ the monitor resolution(s).

Real pain in the ass.

Always productive here, even if sometimes in serendipitous ways.

* (I avoid MS like The Black Death.) 

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> To summarize:
> 
> I swapped PSUs and graphics cards including putting the card from #3 in #4
> 
> I booted from the 2020.10 hard disk and Live Image
> 
> I swapped the KVM cables and ports
> 
> I tried the other PCIe slot that will take the graphics card. 
> 
> I put a scope on the 5 V and 12 V rails.
> 
> After all that agony I finally tracked it down. A couple of junk DVI-VGA 
> adapters! Somehow in my search for the cause of the kernel panics I failed to 
> notice that the display resolution was wrong when I was running 2020.10 in #4
> 
> After all this I'm exhausted. But I've never lost a battle with a piece of 
> computer HW and was not about to start. I'd like to shoot these, but that 
> would require more trouble than they are worth. So I am going to crush them 
> with a 20 ton hydraulic press. If there were someone I disliked enough, I'd 
> give them away.
> 
> The moral of this sad tale is, "Don't put untested parts in your spares bin!" 
> I bought these to have some spares on hand, but did not test them when i 
> received them. They were still in the bags. I damaged my old one for #4 while 
> shifting HW.
> 
> Unfortunately, I still have the kernel panics to deal with :-( 
> 
> Reg  
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems after updating to latest Hipster - OI-packaged Nvidia versions

2021-05-05 Thread Stephan Althaus


On 05/05/21 10:09 PM, Lou Picciano wrote:

OK - Following on to this thread… As I’m testing out an ancient Nvidia card on 
this machine, logs at boot are requesting reversion to nvidia-390.

So:
$ pkg uninstall nvidia-460
$ reboot (though the system no longer properly reboots since the last several 
updates; deadman timeout, then ‘hard’ reboot required.
- topic for a different thread, I imagine.)
- (In addition, zones set to autoboot do not (autoboot) - perhaps due 
to now very-long/much-longer process of mounting all ZFS systems?)
$ pkg install nvidia-390
$ svcadm clear lighted:default

[ May  5 15:18:59 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm start"). 
]
[ May  5 15:18:59 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]

** (lightdm:6904): WARNING **: 15:18:59.907: Failed to get list of logind 
seats: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files

** (lightdm:6904): WARNING **: 15:18:59.916: Error getting user list from 
org.freedesktop.Accounts: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files
[ May  5 15:20:25 Stopping because all processes in service exited. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]

Lou



On Mar 19, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Lou Picciano  wrote:

Thanks John - and Stephan - for your help with this. Do now have 460 installed, 
running.

A key bit was that I had not know to uninstall the ’nvidia’ pkg itself. In any 
case, your beadm-mount-to-tmp approach got me there.

Other things now going on - including the persistent deadman timeout and kernel 
dump at any reboot or state change command - whether reboot or init 6

Will post to NVIDIA thread - though I don’t know that NVIDIA drivers are even 
related.

Lou


On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:07 PM, John D Groenveld  wrote:

In message <518c2ced-99f5-43a9-b5d5-999bb4672...@comcast.net>, Lou Picciano wri
tes:

Am currently running nvidia-390, which is working fine overall. Wanted to see
if we had any issues with nvidia-460. Cannot install it directly - for conflic
ts - so have tried to remove 390 first. Obviously a few things I don't know

Try
# beadm create nvidia-460
# beadm mount nvidia-460 /tmp/nvidia-460
# pkg -R /tmp/nvidia-460 uninstall xorg-video nvidia nvidia-390
# pkg -R /tmp/nvidia-460 install nvidia-460
# beadm activate nvidia-460
# init 6

John
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Hello!

First i would check the Xorg logs.

By the way - do you still have the old BE's from pre-460 as you have 
been on nvidia-390 ?? That would be simple to see if that boots fine.. (?)


Stephan



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems after updating to latest Hipster - OI-packaged Nvidia versions

2021-05-05 Thread Lou Picciano

OK - Following on to this thread… As I’m testing out an ancient Nvidia card on 
this machine, logs at boot are requesting reversion to nvidia-390.

So: 
$ pkg uninstall nvidia-460
$ reboot (though the system no longer properly reboots since the last several 
updates; deadman timeout, then ‘hard’ reboot required.
- topic for a different thread, I imagine.)
- (In addition, zones set to autoboot do not (autoboot) - perhaps due 
to now very-long/much-longer process of mounting all ZFS systems?)
$ pkg install nvidia-390
$ svcadm clear lighted:default

[ May  5 15:18:59 Executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm start"). 
]
[ May  5 15:18:59 Method "start" exited with status 0. ]

** (lightdm:6904): WARNING **: 15:18:59.907: Failed to get list of logind 
seats: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files

** (lightdm:6904): WARNING **: 15:18:59.916: Error getting user list from 
org.freedesktop.Accounts: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files
[ May  5 15:20:25 Stopping because all processes in service exited. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]
[ May  5 15:20:25 Executing stop method ("/lib/svc/method/svc-lightdm stop"). ]
kill: 6904: no such process
[ May  5 15:20:25 Method "stop" exited with status 1. ]

Lou


> On Mar 19, 2021, at 5:48 PM, Lou Picciano  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John - and Stephan - for your help with this. Do now have 460 
> installed, running.
> 
> A key bit was that I had not know to uninstall the ’nvidia’ pkg itself. In 
> any case, your beadm-mount-to-tmp approach got me there.
> 
> Other things now going on - including the persistent deadman timeout and 
> kernel dump at any reboot or state change command - whether reboot or init 6
> 
> Will post to NVIDIA thread - though I don’t know that NVIDIA drivers are even 
> related.
> 
> Lou
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:07 PM, John D Groenveld  wrote:
>> 
>> In message <518c2ced-99f5-43a9-b5d5-999bb4672...@comcast.net>, Lou Picciano 
>> wri
>> tes:
>>> Am currently running nvidia-390, which is working fine overall. Wanted to 
>>> see 
>>> if we had any issues with nvidia-460. Cannot install it directly - for 
>>> conflic
>>> ts - so have tried to remove 390 first. Obviously a few things I don't know 
>> 
>> Try
>> # beadm create nvidia-460
>> # beadm mount nvidia-460 /tmp/nvidia-460
>> # pkg -R /tmp/nvidia-460 uninstall xorg-video nvidia nvidia-390
>> # pkg -R /tmp/nvidia-460 install nvidia-460
>> # beadm activate nvidia-460
>> # init 6
>> 
>> John
>> groenv...@acm.org
>> 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [openindiana-discuss] new gparted release

2021-05-05 Thread Judah Richardson

Thanks! I think folks on here are complaining about the OI repo version,
which, at v0.4.5, will be 12 years old on Saturday
.

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 12:49 PM Nelson H. F. Beebe 
wrote:

> In view of problems reported on this list with gparted on OpenIndiana,
> perhaps some list members would like to try the new version announced
> this past Monday:
>
> https://gparted.org/news.php?item=238
>
> Its release notes are at
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted/gparted-1.3.0/gparted-1.3.0-README.md/view
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] [openindiana-discuss] new gparted release

2021-05-05 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe

In view of problems reported on this list with gparted on OpenIndiana,
perhaps some list members would like to try the new version announced
this past Monday:

https://gparted.org/news.php?item=238

Its release notes are at


https://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted/gparted-1.3.0/gparted-1.3.0-README.md/view

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] still 2020.0.1 ?

2021-05-05 Thread Aurélien Larcher

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:41 AM Stephan Althaus <
stephan.alth...@duedinghausen.eu> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am just curious, the pkg versions still state *2020.0.2*, but we are
> in 2021 now ?
>

I do not know if it is the case in this particular instance but we used to
delay bumping the year if an update of the userland compiler was foreseen.
This was to avoid bumping twice.

>
>
> # pkg update -v
>  Packages to update:  402
>   Estimated space available: 28.24 GB
> Estimated space to be consumed:  2.34 GB
> Create boot environment:  Yes
>   Activate boot environment:  Yes
> Create backup boot environment:   No
>Rebuild boot archive:  Yes
>
> Changed packages:
> openindiana.org
>SUNWcs
>  0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
>SUNWcsd
>  0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
> ...
>
>
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] still 2020.0.1 ?

2021-05-05 Thread Stephan Althaus


Hi!

I am just curious, the pkg versions still state *2020.0.2*, but we are 
in 2021 now ?



# pkg update -v
    Packages to update:  402
 Estimated space available: 28.24 GB
Estimated space to be consumed:  2.34 GB
   Create boot environment:  Yes
 Activate boot environment:  Yes
Create backup boot environment:   No
  Rebuild boot archive:  Yes

Changed packages:
openindiana.org
  SUNWcs
    0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
  SUNWcsd
    0.5.11-2020.0.1.20467 -> 0.5.11-2020.0.1.20489
...


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible? (Solved]

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How is this possible? (Solved]

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems after updating to latest Hipster - OI-packaged Nvidia versions

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problems after updating to latest Hipster - OI-packaged Nvidia versions

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [openindiana-discuss] new gparted release

[OpenIndiana-discuss] [openindiana-discuss] new gparted release

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