Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to remove all X11 packages under oi_151
In simple term, it is not possible without knowing a lot about who OI
distribution are made. The base install current requires certain parts of
the X11 packages.
However this isn't much of a problem for security reasons, as any server app
should be inside its own zone which then does have a very restricted set of
libraries out the box.
My 2p,
Deano
-Original Message-
From: carlopmart [mailto:carlopm...@gmail.com]
Sent: 06 September 2011 09:35
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to remove all X11 packages under
oi_151
On 09/05/2011 07:19 PM, carlopmart wrote:
Hi all,
I have installed a virtual Openindiana oi_151 machine under ESXi5. I
will use this virtual machine as a mysql and squid server and I would
like to remove all X11 packages and their dependencies. How can I do
this??
Thanks.
Nothing?? Is not possible to do this??
--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same?
Windows made the shift last server release (2008r2 is x64 only). So it's only the OSS server families which support 32bit, likely because both BSD and Linux support lots of platforms outside of x86. Deano -Original Message- From: Gary Driggs [mailto:gdri...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 June 2011 02:10 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] oracle removes 32bit x86 cpu support for solaris 11 will OI do same? FWIW, Mac OS X Lion will only support x64 as well. IMHO, this is a good move for modern operating systems since there are always going to be alternatives for those still using i386 architecture. How long has Solaris/SPARC been 64-bit? At least ten years if not more... -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Upgrading from oi_148 to oi_151 - some clarification please
Just in case anybody read this, and gets the wrong idea: oi_151 isn't out, it is in testing, whilst we are more than happy for people to test and help squish those bugs, it isn't yet qualified for production use. It has several stages (/dev than /release) before it hits stable and is out, out. I'm sure most people know this but /dev-il is our may insult your pets and fornicate with your spouse tree, it may do bad things so only for test boxes at the moment. Saying that is working rather well but you have been warned... Deano -Original Message- From: Carl Brewer [mailto:c...@bl.echidna.id.au] Sent: 06 June 2011 06:10 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Upgrading from oi_148 to oi_151 - some clarification please G'day, now oi_151 seems to be out, I'd like some help upgrading. Currently : pkg publisher -a PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI openindiana.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ opensolaris.org (non-sticky) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/ uname -a SunOS wattage 5.11 oi_148 i86pc i386 i86pc To upgrade to 151, I think I need to do this : pkg set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev-il/ openindiana.org pkg refresh I'm not sure about the publisher above though? When I ran the above publisher change it now looks like this: pkg publisher -a PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI openindiana.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev-il/ openindiana.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ opensolaris.org (non-sticky) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/ So I have two preferred publishers - will a pkg refresh break everything?! Thanks Carl ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer
Yes OI is built with distro-constructor and caimen. If you do manage get some experience with it, it would be great to write up your notes on the wiki. Customizing the installer works, but its currently a bit hidden, so any extra info you could add would be appreciated. The oi-dev IRC channel and ML will also be able to help you out, as there the devs who use it to produce the main OI installers with distro-constructor hang out. Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Gabriele Bulfon [mailto:gbul...@sonicle.com] Sent: 03 June 2011 07:52 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer Yes, I remember looking at it for OpenSolaris. Is it still usable on IllumOS/OI? I remember it didn't work correctly for some reasons on IllumOS. Is OI built with it? -- Da: Dave Miner A: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Data: 2 giugno 2011 19.49.11 CEST Oggetto: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building an Installer On 06/ 2/11 07:18 AM, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hi, don't know if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if there is any chance to have an installer tool for bulding a customized installer of openindiana that would contain what I need by default, including additional software of mine. That's what the Distribution Constructor tool is used for. Dave ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Documentation-Project
Hi Tobias, Glad you picked OI to do your course on, OI is a young project compared to many and as such hasn't yet fully formed decisions and modalities. A quick synopsis is that, OI has a council, that would vote on major items. With those on the council being nominated from the community. So far this hasn't been necessary in any big way, so remains largely a system in theory. Everything is open, with all log, discussion and development being visible to all. A weekly meeting is held, which the developers discuss various tabled items and issues, again anyone is welcome to sit in and logs and synopsis's are placed on the wiki. The mailing list and IRC channels provide most of the communication, and anybody interested in the project that hangs around them for a bit will quickly get a feel for how the community works. For source control, currently the amounts of people submitting changes hasn't needed a strict policy and its all sorted our via the oi-dev IRC channel. Informally a few people have mentioned we need a better documentation system, as currently is just adhoc written directly in the wiki. Idea world, a few people who knew various systems such as sphinx and a few others could perhaps mail the oi-dev list with suggestions and recommendations on what to use. In many ways the technical merits of each system isn't really that important (they all produce html, pdf, etc.), what is, is someone who knows a system well and is willing to help and possibly mentor others into using it. For all its issues, HTML does have one advantage is that has many wysiwugs and most of us at one point have dabbled a bit. The biggest challenge of documentation is first writing it *and* then maintaining it. Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Tobias Famulla [mailto:e...@famulla.eu] Sent: 26 May 2011 14:55 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Documentation-Project Hello OpenIndiana-Community, I am in an Open-Source-seminar at University, in which we have to hold a presentation about an Open-Source project and participate in the development-process of this project. I chose OpenIndiana for this Course, because I think it is an interesting young project and the developement of a free Solaris is important for the open-source-community. Becaus it lacks in a good documentation of OpenIndiana yet, as far as i read in the wiki, I had the idea of writing a script to transform the latest OpenSolaris documentation from XML to a Sphinx-documentation(restructuredText) and rewrite it in some parts. I think Sphinx is a wonderful tool to write a good documentation and export it to html and pdf. It might be easier to handle these documents than the XML ones. If you like the idea of writing the OpenSolaris-documentation in Sphinx, it might be helpful to integrate it in the revision control system to have an easy way to manage the documentation. On another point, it would help me for the presentation, if someone writes me, how decisions for the project are made and how the project is managed(commitments to the sourcetree and something like that) Sincerely yours, Tobias Famulla ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI meeting April 4th 2011 write up
Hi, To make it easier for the wider community to know what the weekly OI meetings are about, it's been decided to write them up into something more human friendly. The result is at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/oi-meeting+April+5th+2001+Write+Up I've gone for a more informal newsletter style, but please let me know what you think, be honest I don't mind. Anybody in the meeting let me know if it doesn't reflect anything correctly and everybody else please let me know what you think! Thanks, Deano ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem)
Regardless of what Solaris does, what Linux does and so on. Clarity and future userability of OPEN INDIANA is more important than all other concerns and for that reason alone reboot and shutdown, should be available by default and do exactly what they say on the tin. Let's not get stuck as a legacy OS, or if that is what OI is meant to be lets state that so we don't work hard trying to cater for new users! Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Kevin J. Woolley [mailto:k...@javabunny.net] Sent: 28 March 2011 17:50 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] reboot/shutdown commands (Was: Re: OI boot problem) On 28 March 2011 09:32, John McEntee jmcen...@stirling-dynamics.com wrote: Now, who in their right mind would suggest you have to check uname every time before changing run levels. It kind of makes sense -- if you're on Solaris you need to use shutdown -i 6 -g 0 to reboot, and on everything else you need to use reboot or shutdown -r. ;) (This holds true for at least the BSDs, OS X (IIRC), Linux, HP-UX, and AIX.) Cheers, kjw ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10
Thats not quite right, Illumos is open source continuation of ONNV, which is the core foundation, however it doesn't include other consolidation that made up OpenSolaris. OpenIndiana does, it takes all those consolidations and produces a working OS you can install. Of course the biggest and most important of those consolidation is Illumos. The reason OI is only now slowly moving to Illumos, it has many other consolidations that also required work before a safe move could be made, and also keeping OpenIndiana in line with the closed source variants. There are other forks for both areas (ONNV replacements and installable OS distributions), if for some reason Illumos and OpenIndiana aren't suitable. HTH, Deano -Original Message- From: Pasi Kärkkäinen [mailto:pa...@iki.fi] Sent: 19 March 2011 14:58 To: Michael DeMan Cc: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org; zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs-discuss] best migration path from Solaris 10 On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 06:26:37PM -0700, Michael DeMan wrote: ZFSv28 is in HEAD now and will be out in 8.3. ZFS + HAST in 9.x means being able to cluster off different hardware. In regards to OpenSolaris and Indiana - can somebody clarify the relationship there? It was clear with OpenSolaris that the latest/greatest ZFS would always be available since it was a guinea-pig product for cost conscious folks and served as an excellent area for Sun to get marketplace feedback and bug fixes done before rolling updates into full Solaris. To me it seems that Open Indiana is basically a green branch off of a dead tree - if I am wrong, please enlighten me. Illumos project was started as a fork of OpenSolaris when Oracle was still publishing OpenSolaris sources. Then Oracle closed OpenSolaris development, and decided to call upcoming (closed) versions Solaris 11 Express, with no source included. Illumos project continued the development based on the latest published OpenSolaris sources, and a bit later OpenIndiana *distribution* was announced to deliver a binary distro based on OpenSolaris/Illumos. So in short Illumos is the development project, which hosts the new sources, and OpenIndiana is a binary distro based on it. -- Pasi On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:16 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: I think we all feel the same pain with Oracle's purchase of Sun. FreeBSD that has commercial support for ZFS maybe? Fbsd currently has a very old zpool version, not suitable for running with SLOGs, since if you lose it, you may lose the pool, which isn't very amusing... Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building a machine
Hi Scott, There is a HCL at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Community+HCL that might have some suggestions, though don't think there are any/many mini-itx boards on there. Most boards seems to work well with OpenIndiana, especially if on Intel chipsets. Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Scott O'Brien [mailto:king.scot...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 March 2011 10:26 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Building a machine G'Day Everyone, First post on the mailing list. I've just got a few quick questions. I've found a case I want to build a file server with (just for home) http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=25_1055pro ducts_id=14503 http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=25_1055pr oducts_id=14503 now I'm at a loss as to what mini-itx motherboard I should put in it. I was kind of hoping for one of the new low power Sandy Bridge CPU's but can't find any on pccasegear.com. Any advice on motherboard and HD's to get? Any idea about how to tell with OpenIndiana compatibility? Thanks, Scott ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC
An in progress SPARC build is available for people to try out and find issue with, as long as they don't mind helping out with some of the packaging issues. Discussion is currently ongoing about pushing it up to oi-dev status (the same as x86 is at the moment). If you have SPARC, are interested in OI and have a little bit of time to help iron out issues then that would be great. If with those caveats, you're still interesting, logging into #oi-dev IRC or oi-dev mailing list would get you more details and the current build. The main reason SPARC is lagging behind x86 is finding people with machines who can help, so it would be greatly appreciated. HTH, Deano -Original Message- From: Nathan Evans [mailto:ndickinson.ev...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 February 2011 13:45 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC IS OI available for SPARC yet? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] New IRC logs
Hi, The nice man at echelog.matzon.dk, hosts nicely presented IRC logs for various open source projects, I asked him to add OI which he has now done. So for those who either can't hang on IRC all day or just prefer reading at your leisure, there are now links off the wiki at http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/IRC+Chat for both #openindiana and #oi-dev Plus you get to see where in the world we are all chatting from! Also we now have a twitter feed on the website's front page, its linked to #openindiana hashtag, so please twitter about anything related to OI, so others can see how useful it is J Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New Web GUI for ZFS
It can't be used in commercial apps. -Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:gdri...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 February 2011 19:46 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New Web GUI for ZFS Have you seen napp-it already? Does it have some licensing restrictions that I'm unaware of? best wishes, Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana mailing list
We will make it more obvious to get to, as we shuffle things about. Thanks for pointing it out :) Deano -Original Message- From: Dmitry G. Kozhinov [mailto:d...@desktopfay.com] Sent: 15 February 2011 13:29 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana mailing list Hi, To whom it may concern. The link to OpenIndiana mailing list (http://openindiana.org/mailman) should be added somewhere at the main page. Currently the only way to find the mailing list (at least which I could find) is way too long and hidden: Documentation - FAQ - Where can I get more info or keep up to date with the project? - Please join our mailing lists - http://openindiana.org/mailman;. Could it be e.g. Support - Mailing lists ? Dmitry. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment
Unfortunately the text only install is fairly big, most of the package and consolidation were made for the GUI version and as such have lots of dependencies that don't strictly belong for a text install. As it will mean splitting lots of packages into two parts, it is quite a bit of work and so far man power has left it on the nice idea list. Gives most of us these days can waste a few gig without noticing, the main concern is really attack footprint for hackers. I was hoping to undertake some of the work myself but after a little digging found lots of tasks that are more important imho Bye, Deano -Original Message-, From: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:r...@karlsbakk.net] Sent: 13 February 2011 19:14 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment Yes, we do appear to be missing that page, i'll update the FAQ. It should be roughly the same as S11 Express. Disk space Disk space: Recommended size is 7GB. A minimum of 3GB is required. Does OI text install require 3 gigs? I thought it was more like haf a gig Vennlige hilsener / Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI Stable Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch)
Hi Ken, Most of us agree that the more packages and more of a cross section the stable build has, the better. However the main issue is supporting it, it's not simply packaging, its maintaining it to a high enough standard to be considered stable, if someone can come forward and not only offer a package but be willing to look after it, follow the security alerts, package and patch it, then great. For now we have some great people supporting many packages and consolidation, but getting more into the stable list requires more people interested in helping. Bye, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:kgund...@teamcool.net] Sent: 13 February 2011 19:14 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Second Look at OI Stable Proposal (was Re: Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch) I was just taking a second (well, actually third) look at this and the more important baby (IMAP) was thrown out with the bath water (MTA debate). On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 11:50 -0700, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 20:36 +, Alasdair Lumsden wrote: Hi All, [snip] Despite all it's goodness, one, if not the, primary detractor to Open Solaris's uptake was a paucity of 3rd party packages. Postponing until IllumOS integraton would allow more time for the repository to be updated and fleshed out, thereby creating a better initial impression of fresh and up to date Open Solaris based system. If the minimal supported server now path is chosen, then I think there really needs to be some POP3/IMAP package on the list, because it's not all just about web servers. Cyrus or Dovecot would be good choices. The proposed minimal set of packages to be supported is very web server centric. Email is still a BIG component of the Internet and I believe that at least one IMAP package should be included in the supported list. And that package should be either Dovecot (simpler) or Cyrus (bigger enterprise ready and more RFC conformant). There are many people running large Cyrus ZFS installations on Solaris based systems (although many OpenSolaris may have migrated by now) so I think it might not bee too difficult if we approached the appropriate Cyrus mailing list with a request to package for OI. Probably similarly for Dovecot, as last I communicated with Timo (admittedly in early Dovecot development) he was very helpful guy. My personal preference would be for Cyrus because of the RFC feature/conformance aspect. Also, I think SSH needs to be added to the supported list. I'm sure this one was merely an oversight. Thank you and have a nice day. -- Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-dev-148 failure on V20z
Hi Marion, That's great that you want to help find and fix the bug you've seem to have discovered :) As its low level, it's likely more in the illumos sphere, so might be worth asking there about it. Another simple thing to try would be the experimental OI on illumos build to see if it occurs with the future OI core. If you use IRC, it might be an idea to join the illumos and oi-dev channels, to get some more real-time debugging assistance. Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Marion Hakanson [mailto:hakan...@ohsu.edu] Sent: 12 February 2011 21:36 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-dev-148 failure on V20z g...@genashor.com said: 1) I couldn't get apcupsd to work. I'm sure this is due to some change in libusb. 2) There was something sucking up cpu but not showing up in ps or prstat. I think it was a service in quick restart mode. I used the net installer from here: http://www.belenix.org/binfiles/install_openindiana Thanks for the references to the net installer. When I get back to it on Monday, I'll probably try installing from USB as well. However, given that S11-Express 2010-11 installs from the CD drive just fine, and that it can also read the OI-148 CD just fine on this machine, it seems clear that there's something wrong in OI-148, not with the hardware. So, while a net-install or USB-install are workarounds, I am still looking for some advice on diagnosing and helping to fix this problem, so future revs of OpenIndiana will not have this obstacle. I'm offering our hardware and a bit of my time toward solving this problem. We've got six of these V20z's, and we're also feeling trapped in Oracle-land, so helping to improve the alternatives to the gold-plated offerings from Oracle seems like a worthwhile investment. Regards, Marion ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice
Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it. Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed, which is good for everyone. Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0 driver (which is OK with OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus. The alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple Mac) Regards Guy On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote: Ken, Have you seen this bug report ? https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751 I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris) with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation. Best of luck Guy On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote: Hello People: I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't game, do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws square squares :) Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings are a drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long as the card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft. So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was pleased to note the Quadro 600 is officially supported. The Quadro 600's price point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?. Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4 models are listed. I'm curios why this might be? Shouldn't pretty much any of the cards supported by those drivers work? Or is this list just a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community? I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions. Thanks bunches. Hello, I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 driver supported list. I will let you know if it works soon:-) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5 296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Thanks Guy, I guess, i will have to swap cards between my home systems. it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then linux; not so long ago, i build an amd dual core and opensolaris 2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10, will not install because of a cpu bug. However Oracle linux, and other linux distros run great on it. now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with these video cards.(geforce GT 220) i would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my computer as long it runs great on SUN units. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice
OI will be using the illumos kernel soon, so we don't necessary rely on Oracle fixing the kernel bug. If illumos know about it, we can look at fixing it. OI + illumos != Solaris 11 :D Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 11:16 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice According to the defect.solaris report it's a bug in the solaris 11 kernel so it's up to Oracle/Nvidia - don't hold your breath Guy On 02/10/11 11:11 AM, Deano wrote: Any known issues, please add it into the HCL and also bug it. Somebody might be able to look at it at some point, and get it fixed, which is good for everyone. Thanks, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Guy Woolley [mailto:guy.wool...@btinternet.com] Sent: 10 February 2011 10:52 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] GPU HCL - nVidia Questions Advice Yes - it's too bad; actually the GEForce 220 worked fine when I tried Solaris 10 but I just couldn't get the internet to work with the rge0 driver (which is OK with OSOL, OI) in my machine . It's pretty obvious that hardware for consumer PCs is very strongly directed at Windows (why wouldn't they ?); if it works for anything else that's a bonus. The alternative seems to be the way that was once the only way - hardware and OS from the same manufacturer, and priced accordingly (look at Apple Mac) Regards Guy On 02/10/11 10:25 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 02/10/11 00:57, Guy Woolley wrote: Ken, Have you seen this bug report ? https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15751 I haven't tried the 256.44 driver but my GEForce 220 certainly hasn't worked on OI (or earlier Opensolaris) with earlier Nvidia drivers for it - John Martin's Comments seem to suggest that neither Oracle nor Nvidia are very interested in a problem in a fairly cheap consumer graphics card that works fine with popular OS (it works fine for me under WinXP - I have a dual boot PC). I expect Ken Mays knows better than I about the current situation. Best of luck Guy On 02/10/11 07:30 AM, Edward Martinez wrote: On 02/09/11 21:52, Ken Gunderson wrote: Hello People: I need a new graphics card for an older system (PCIE-1.0). I don't game, do graphics, rendering, etc. so don't need high end - just a good workstation unit that supports OpenGL, good color accuracy, and draws square squares :) Occasional DVD's are probably about the most GPU intensive use the system sees. Noisy fans and failed fan bearings are a drag, so passive cooling is a plus, but not always a must as long as the card doesn't make the box sound like a hovercraft. So I thought I'd consult that newly created HCL wiki and was pleased to note the Quadro 600 is officially supported. The Quadro 600's price point is attractive but otherwise I don't know much about it, as it's relatively new unit. So I've a question for Mr. Mays; is the 600 your daily driver, and if so, how do you like it?. Also, the nVidia 256.44 driver's support many, many cards, yet only 4 models are listed. I'm curios why this might be? Shouldn't pretty much any of the cards supported by those drivers work? Or is this list just a sample of stuff that's actually been tested by the OI community? I'm not very familiar with nVidia's line and welcome suggestions. Thanks bunches. Hello, I just order an nvidia Geforce GT 220 to use with OI, the onboard video is to weak for me, and it's listed on nvidia 's 256,44 driver supported list. I will let you know if it works soon:-) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5 296653SRCCODE=WEBLET03ORDER cm_mmc=Email-_-WebletMain-_-WEBLET03ORDER-_-Deals http://www.nvidia.com/object/solaris-display-256.44-driver.html ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Thanks Guy, I guess, i will have to swap cards between my home systems. it appears it will be tougher to buy hardware for solaris then linux; not so long ago, i build an amd dual core and opensolaris 2009, osol_snv134, solaris 10, will not install because of a cpu bug. However Oracle linux, and other linux distros run great on it. now it appears a bug in the solaris kernel is causing problems with these video cards.(geforce GT 220) i would be bet Oracle does not give a hoot how solaris runs on my computer as long it runs great on SUN units. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beagleboard (arm) port?
IANAL but yes CDDL is an very free license and fairly easy to comply with and release commercial products. Larger size but see Nextenta storage servers for exactly this form of commercialization. HTH, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Gary [mailto:gdri...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 February 2011 13:33 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beagleboard (arm) port? I'm not seeing any current Atom CPUs that support ECC. However, by using Marvell's product selector I found some of their discovery series embedded processors support it. Ideally, you'd want to find an embedded board of some usable form factor that includes one of those CPUs while still providing 1G Ethernet and SAS/SATA I/O over PCIe. Now you've got me thinking about embedded ZFS appliances. Does CDDL code allow for commercial products to be sold? I don't know it well enough to compare it to LGPL or 3 clause BSD... -Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beagleboard (arm) port?
Whilst many of us would love to see an ARM port of OI and illumos, it's not even on the cards yet. OI is more oriented to bigger systems and there is a considerable amount of effort to slim it down and port it to ARM. Have you considered a mini-itx or pico-itx board? They would likely run OI (assuming drivers etc.). If you do go with the beagleboard, I suggest a embedded focused distribution of linux than Ubuntu, just like OI its not really designed for the small end of the spectrum and there are some very nice embedded distros. Another possibility is FreeBSD on arm, FreeBSD zfs support is quite ahead of linux, so would probably make a better base and its also got some nice mini distro's ready to go :) HTH, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Jacob Ritorto [mailto:jacob.rito...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 February 2011 13:45 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beagleboard (arm) port? Hi, I was thinking of building a minimal low performance/experimental zfs filer on a beagleboard ( http://beagleboard.org ) or something similar with a 2tb mirror disk set attached via usb and a serial console. Are there any projects or plans to compile/port OpenIndiana to arm? If not, I see that Ubuntu already works on beagleboard, so that, plus the Livermore zfs-on-linux port ( http://zfsonlinux.org ) would perhaps do the trick for now, I guess.. thoughts? thx jake ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beginner help
Hi Johan, A current bug in the installer means the root password is initially set to the user password and requires changing before being useable, so you need to login as the user, then su into root (with the password being the user password) and then you will be asked to change it. Then it will work as you expect. HTH, Deano -Original Message- From: Johan Nilsson [mailto:joni8...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2011 10:09 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beginner help Hi. I'm new to openindiana and don't know if his list are right forum. Does things differ from opensolaris? For instance user groups and how you set up useraccount? Try to manage administration System--Admin-- 'system firewal'l or 'users and groups' I have only typed one password during install, and that does not work. /Cheers ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work
My notes on static ip (not using NWAM) under OI from the default DHCP Update /etc/resolv.conf WITH DNS /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf Update /etc/defaultrouter with GATEWAY route -p add default GATEWAY Update /etc/hosts svcadm disable network/physical:nwam svcadm enable network/physical:default ipadm create-addr -T static -a HOSTNAME/24 LINK_NAME HTH, Deano -Original Message- From: Daniel Kvasnička [mailto:daniel.kvasnicka...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 January 2011 16:13 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work Hi people, I'm trying to setup OpenIndiana b148 to use static IPv4 address and manually set up DNS servers. And I can't even ping my gateway. The problem is that the only acces to the machine I have is through VNC to the QEMU instance it runs in. Here is the link to screenshots showing what I've done with nwamcfg so far: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1967301/1/oi?h=bfc6e1 I've also: - checked /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver entries - ensured dns is entered in /etc/nsswitch.conf in appropriate places - entered appropriate line in /etc/nwam/llp (e1000g0 static xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24) - checked that my gateway is in /etc/defaultrouter - tried to set 255.255.255.0 as mask using ifconfig, because ifconfig -a showed the mask is set to ff00 What the hell am I doing wrong? :) Can the problem be somewhere outside the system? As I've said. It's a virtual instance running in a VM and I have no way to check the VM settings myself. Dan -- http://www.danielkvasnicka.net ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
I think Alasdair has been clear, Stable will be 148 with security patches only. No matter what, how or even good reasons matter at this stage, Stable-148 is effectively locked down bar security and critical fixes. Best course of action is to get security helpers in, which will get Stable out the door ASAP and then open up these discussion for the longer Stable release schedules and choices, next one will be a biggy as we move to an illumos core. Doing this is a lot of work for the OI team, and (wo)manpower is short. If anyone has a bit of spare time, volunteering for the security team would be greatly appreciated (they will mentor if you've never done it before) or filling wiki pages or even just filling in the HCL with any data on machines you are running OI would help. We are approaching the first major milestone of the OpenIndiana and illumos projects, hopefully the second will follow fairly quickly and then we can push forward with new and exciting developments :) Just my 2p, Deano -Original Message- From: Jesus Cea [mailto:j...@jcea.es] Sent: 26 January 2011 11:48 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/01/11 04:22, Ken Gunderson wrote: Sure, the *BSD ship with Sendmail, but that is mostly for historical reasons and that nobody wants to get into a holy war as to what a more modern default should be. At the time Debian opted for Exim, Sendmail was one security exploit after another waiting to happen, Postfix was not yet in existence and Qmail, the other potential contender, had an unacceptable license. Several Linux distributions ship with Postfix. Just because Oracle makes a poor decision and ships Sendmail doesn't mean OI necessarily has to follow, no? Well, it has been ages since the last sendmail remote exploit, but I personally know quite a few guys rebuilding servers after being exploited thru Exim (just days -a week?- ago). OI 148 uses sendmail. The stable release should be minimal change, security fixes only. Any extra developer will be used to integrate Illumos. If a 3th party provides a postfix replacement for sendmail, perfect. But do not delay 148+support for the sake of it. PS: I personally use postfix too. - -- Jesus Cea Avion _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ j...@jcea.es - http://www.jcea.es/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ jabber / xmpp:j...@jabber.org _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ . _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Things are not so easy _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ My name is Dump, Core Dump _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ El amor es poner tu felicidad en la felicidad de otro - Leibniz -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQCVAwUBTUAKBJlgi5GaxT1NAQK0FAP/YqG7N+vxmWfHP70c023VuHmk28WtNeVO a9RR94z1lAZyJpu03rURazjsPw/Av8XNSCSqBcBE4G2HEubTsSbBg7phoQ27b9KZ UWeEGt+WZlgy3A2GreESSjSWEchalezFKLFxNWYKdDBEd96oLVxbJPr24JiP5QB9 o5JYLeAVPh4= =RNIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning
Most services depend on filesystem/local, that error effectively says the filesystem hasn't come up correctly, which means also everything shouldn't work. Of course in this case most of filesystem is up, so it should have faulted really (just warned). Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: ann kok [mailto:oiyan...@yahoo.ca] Sent: 24 January 2011 15:17 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning Hi Thank you. At least I can access the box now. I realize the problem is from vfstab /dev/dsk/c2t1d0s2 /dev/rdsk/c2t1d0s2 /export/zone1 ufs 1 yes - My questions 1/ How can I let the box know the service is still starting even thought it can't mount the drive? Any soft mount in solaris? 2/ Why one service can impact 40 services not starting? ls it only this nfs? ls other service also same. It is not reasonable ssh won't start because of apache! Thank you svc:/system/filesystem/local:default (local file system mounts) State: maintenance since Mon Jan 24 10:06:26 2011 Reason: Start method exited with $SMF_EXIT_ERR_FATAL. See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-KS See: /var/svc/log/system-filesystem-local:default.log Impact: 40 dependent services are not running: svc:/application/desktop-cache/input-method-cache:default --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Bernd Helber be...@helber-it-services.com wrote: From: Bernd Helber be...@helber-it-services.com Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Received: Monday, January 24, 2011, 9:55 AM Hi, your last change, before you rebooted the Box? As a temporary workaround... start ssh manually /usr/lib/ssh/sshd that should do the trick. Am 24.01.11 15:53, schrieb ann kok: Hi My ssh service can't start this morning when I reboot the box I try to enable it in the console but it won't work svcs -a |grep ssh offline time svc:/network/ssh:default svcadm enable ssh svcs -a |grep ssh offline time svc:/network/ssh:default dmesg is showing nothing. How can I fix it? Any trouleshooting command I also have question that ls solaris services depended each other? Mean S65 can't start. S66.. all services after S65 also won't start Thank you ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- with kind regards Bernd Helber _.-|-/\-._ \-' '-. / /\ /\ \/ \/ . ./. \/ _ / /___\ |. . \ / /\ ( #) |#) | | /\ -. __\ \ V )./_._(\ .)/\ .- / \_'_) )-.. \ ./ / /._./ /\ '-' / '-._ v _.-' / '-.__.·' \ \/ *** *This message has been scanned by DrWeb AV and Spamassassin ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning
If you remove the ssh manifest dependencies it will try and run regardless of system state, however it also might start early (as it won't be waiting for anything). I *might* do what you want but YMMV. Test it first locally whilst you have local console access. Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: ann kok [mailto:oiyan...@yahoo.ca] Sent: 24 January 2011 15:55 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning Thank you. I understand it now But this might not be good for us when most our systems need remote access Now. I know it is nfs issue 1/ How can I make the box still fine when the mount point is not available? 2/ How can I start the ssh even any services are in problem? At least I can remote access to do the trouble shooting In linux. I can simply add it in rc.local /usr/sbin/sshd How can I do it in solaris? Thank you so much --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk wrote: From: Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning To: 'Discussion list for OpenIndiana' openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Received: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:30 AM Most services depend on filesystem/local, that error effectively says the filesystem hasn't come up correctly, which means also everything shouldn't work. Of course in this case most of filesystem is up, so it should have faulted really (just warned). Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: ann kok [mailto:oiyan...@yahoo.ca] Sent: 24 January 2011 15:17 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning Hi Thank you. At least I can access the box now. I realize the problem is from vfstab /dev/dsk/c2t1d0s2 /dev/rdsk/c2t1d0s2 /export/zone1 ufs 1 yes - My questions 1/ How can I let the box know the service is still starting even thought it can't mount the drive? Any soft mount in solaris? 2/ Why one service can impact 40 services not starting? ls it only this nfs? ls other service also same. It is not reasonable ssh won't start because of apache! Thank you svc:/system/filesystem/local:default (local file system mounts) State: maintenance since Mon Jan 24 10:06:26 2011 Reason: Start method exited with $SMF_EXIT_ERR_FATAL. See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-KS See: /var/svc/log/system-filesystem-local:default.log Impact: 40 dependent services are not running: svc:/application/desktop-cache/input-method-cache:default --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Bernd Helber be...@helber-it-services.com wrote: From: Bernd Helber be...@helber-it-services.com Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] help: ssh won't start this morning To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Received: Monday, January 24, 2011, 9:55 AM Hi, your last change, before you rebooted the Box? As a temporary workaround... start ssh manually /usr/lib/ssh/sshd that should do the trick. Am 24.01.11 15:53, schrieb ann kok: Hi My ssh service can't start this morning when I reboot the box I try to enable it in the console but it won't work svcs -a |grep ssh offline time svc:/network/ssh:default svcadm enable ssh svcs -a |grep ssh offline time svc:/network/ssh:default dmesg is showing nothing. How can I fix it? Any trouleshooting command I also have question that ls solaris services depended each other? Mean S65 can't start. S66.. all services after S65 also won't start Thank you ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- with kind regards Bernd Helber _.-|-/\-._ \-' '-. / /\ /\ \/ \/ . ./. \/ _ / /___\ |. . \ / /\ ( #) |#) | | /\ -. __\ \ V )./_._(\ .)/\ .- / \_'_) )-.. \ ./ / /._./ /\ '-' / '-._ v _.-' / '-.__.·' \ \/ *** *This message has been scanned by DrWeb AV and Spamassassin ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Amazon AMI
The existing OpenSolaris JeOS work was partly motivated for such uses, we are looking at getting a similar minimal configuration working for OI. It should be fairly simple to go from that to a nice small virtual image in the main cloud formats (just as JeOS did). Given some of the benefits that the illumos kernel comes with in regards storage and networking, I suspect it will make a very nice base cloud compute image. Bye, Deano de...@cloudpixie.com -Original Message- From: Sorin Stoiana [mailto:sorinalin.stoi...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 January 2011 20:53 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Amazon AMI Hello, Are there any plans for creating an Amazon AMI to use on Amazon's cloud? This would lower the entry barrier for a lot of potential users. Perhaps a VMware image and/or OVF template would also be of help to make the project more popular. Regards, Sorin Stoiana ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Guido wrote I agree with that, however I consider this strictly a makeshift solution for those who are now desperately in need for a replacement of OpenSolaris to bridge the time until the Illumos-based OI has stabilized. How does illumos-based OI change the situation we currently have, that we don't have the man power to manage the multitude of packages the OpenSolaris had/has? It's a classic boot strap issue, until enough package maintainers are available to do critical/security updates on OI, regardless of the backend ONNV or illumos, applications will atrophy. But if OI isn't production ready, then nobody will come forward as package maintainers. IMHO this can be seen in the state of OpenSolaris and OI package mess (dependency loops, etc.) Similar to how the wine/cross-over dev have to concentrate on the most important windows apps to get running, OI stable should pick apps most used/wanted that have active maintainers and interested parties. Nothing wrong with having all the other apps in repositories for use in less stable environments, but at least we are being honest about the status. If external contributors were able and willing to commit patches/fixes beyond the supported list, we'd accept them with open arms, and this could be a great way to extend the contributor list and get more people involved. Note that this is not just be about accepting contributions, it would also involve review and testing by regular developers, in particular if we make committments about stability. I think there are better ways for potential contributors to get involed into the project so let's stick to the above list. Not sure what you mean by regular developers? At the moment we have a few maintainers each taking huge incorporations, that's a massive (and we are all very grateful) commitment. Most I suspect can't take on such a large chunk. However I suspect many of us could maintain a package or two specially if we already using them in a production OI setting, as we already have to do security watching and updates. However that means the smaller sized chunk list will be largely driven by what actual users use rather than a list of chosen packages. I'm personally a good case in point, I'm happy to help OI out with a few how-tos and packaging up the few apps I care about and use day to day, as a thank you back to the massive and impressive work done getting OI where it is now. But currently there doesn't seem to be a spot for me to really help out... the apps I'd probably package and support are nginx and node.js. Not on the top 10 list but they are what I use and so know and could maintain (when I have to learnt IPS packaging). Since this is just a bridge for those who already use OpenSolaris or OI in production I'm categorically against demands for feature additions sucha as providing postfix and a pony that already seem to pop up. This is a temporary solution, so please let's treat it that way. If this is temporary solution, what is the permanent solution? Illumos solves the ONNV issue, but going forward how does OI as a distribution be production ready as a server platform (its obviously first use) etc.? and encourage user to pitch in? Bye, Deano ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Guido wrote You seem to have a misconception of how the OI project operates. The current situation is that the largest part of maintenance work for all consolidations except ON is still done by Oracle although consolidation maintainers add fixes on top of that where they deem it necessary. And we might take advantage of that as long as it is feasible. Even if those consolidations aren't what is best for OI? At moment it's very hard to use OI in production because the consolidations bring in lots of unnecessary packages and we haven't the resources to update critical security of all those packages. To me, long term route should be to bring the base consolidations OI requires under OI control (likely a small set of server based ones), support those 100% and have optional less supported ones from the rest of the consolidations from Oracle and other sources. However as the old saying goes, easier said than done :) I've already volunteered to work on minimal JeOS/debootstrap level of OI, so I guess I'll find out how much work is involved heh At heart I guess it's what OI is and wants to be, is it a free clone of Oracle Solaris or is it a independent OS, just with the Sun heritage? This I suspect is much easier for me, as I have no history with Sun or Oracle (Been 20 years since I used a Sun OS and they aren't fond memories). I just see OI as an awesome engineered Unix OS that I prefer over Linux or BSD for lots of reason that I'm sure most on this list would agree with, its heritage is just that for me, a past with good and bad points but control of its destiny should be its own. Going back to the original proposal, a stable cut focused OI with security and critical updates is part of building that destiny. It's a stake in the ground, that illumos and OI are an OS you can use now and in the future regardless of what happens outside its control. It may not be, at this stage, everything to all, *but* it as a real thing, that people can use as a production server OS. Bye, Deano ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch
Hi, Sounds like an good move, however I don't think that you mentioned or proposed how we tackle one issue of taking OI into production server (which is possible, I go live with 3 OI servers on Monday gulp ;) ). Currently the dependency chain of the packages, is erm to be polite utterly broken... Before we can consider a stable build, we have to fix that a text install takes 2.6GiB and includes so much stuff that doesn't belong. Trying to remove via pkg gets you nowhere as it horrible chained together incorrectly. It's a security nightmare, the only way I currently feel safe is that I have a zone that faces the world because zones (for some reason) install much more striped down installs. IMHO First thing should be making a minimal server install, debootstrap minimal. Get a unix base system, IPS package manager and wget and the rest can come later. TBH the install a new zone gets is more like the default install should be imho. Then have a number of repositories with different classes of supported apps, Primary being your list and with critical fixes etc. and then secondary being less supported apps. Your proposal to focus on a small set of apps is correct imho, new users to OI stable will be early adopters almost by definition, so by being honest and saying OS is stable and great and so are these major programs, but not everything out there is to the same level, we encourage champions to take their favorite program and get it on the major supported list. Also a smaller core will make the illumos switch faster, I'm personally not sure if stable should become before illumos integration. OI on illumos works now, with locales being the major issues (being worked on), it doesn't feel right to call OI stable without it using (even a WIP) the base that it requires going forward (OI on ON isn't really stable as it's a EOL, which implies an unstable future). As you're worried about missing the window, as OSol users migrate to linux or FreeBSD IMHO that is more a perception issue. OI website appears very slow moving, even dead. Bringing some life there may help that issue, call the WIP stable build, Early Adopter build or something like that, post EA new builds once a week on the front page. Get silly screen shots of shell doing zfs, or apache configuration files, all completely useless BUT highlights that look this thing is real and running apps you, as a IT geek are wanting to run... As a production OI deployer, I really care about 1) Minimal install with just the programs I want, 2) Critical fixes for the OS and those apps if I use the package system. 3) A safe build environment, as there is a fair chance I'll be building app myself at this stage (I use a separate machine for this as the safest way :) ) 4) Something that will upgrade nicely for the say 3 years. For OI that scream illumos IMHO 5) A community with nice central info pool, currently the OI wiki and webpages doesn't feel like a community, wiki access is restricted, so not encouraging writing up notes and most of the useful information isn't on there anyway. Half the time you end up on Oracle web pages, which makes you wonder if this is a real OS. 6) Security info and concerns, from articles to hardening the OS to using VMs (Xen, Zones, Virtual box?) to isolate components. Probably just an extension of the wiki and/or blogs but I'm sure some of the in the trenches guys would be happy to write a few articles on how we got OI onto the front line and in use. Hope this doesn't sound negative, as mostly I agree with your proposal (only thing I really disagree on is non illumos). At the moment OI is very much a shadow of OSol choices, which I don't think apply here, for it to go stable it needs to shake of its old masters clothes and choose its own route. Starting with a small server distro that just happens to have a huge repo of other apps including desktop, allows it to find a niche and then expand out from there. As a server (especially a storage server) OS imho its second to none :) Bye, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lumsden [mailto:alasdai...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 January 2011 20:36 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana; OpenIndiana Developer mailing list Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch Hi All, I believe now would be a really good time for us to create our first stable branch of OpenIndiana, given the timing of some developments within the project. Below I've outlined my proposal and I'd love feedback from the community and from OI developers! Obviously as a new project with a small (but growing) developer base, providing support for the whole release isn't feasible - there are literally thousands of packages in the distribution. But we have to start somewhere, so I'm proposing we provide limited support (outlined below) for a set of core packages. * Why? * Prior to the Oracle takeover, Solaris 10 was free to use in production, and for a long
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Netbook LCD dim
Sounds like a machine specific issue, my Acer Aspire One netbook responds to power change screen dims fine. Not much help I'm afraid tho. Bye, Deano -Original Message- From: hairryharry [mailto:hairryha...@tesco.net] Sent: 10 January 2011 21:48 To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Netbook LCD dim Hi I'm continuing my experimentation with OI on my Sony w11 netbook. Generally very pleased with experience after several minor hiccups. What I cannot seem to resolve is LCD dimming on change to battery power. I have set in gnome-powwer-manager, set with gconf editor and can dim the display with brightness control applet but cannot get auto dim on change to battery. Nothing significant when googled. Just wondered if any one has come up with a fix for this. Thanks, Mike ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones
The mkdir/chmod was a part of various guides I've read, and is too allow the verify function to work I believe. Honestlr can't remember if I had rebooted after installing... I've wiped that machine and installed 148 directly, and done exactly as before except missing the mkdir/chmod/verify and its worked 1st time. So does indeed look like something to do with an 147 - 148 upgrade. However a direct 148 install its working perfectly. Thanks, Deano -Original Message- From: Anil [mailto:replic...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 January 2011 20:35 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones Why are you creating the directories manually with mkdir/chmod? They should get created automatically. Also, I have to ask, you rebooted after you did image-update to 148? ... and then are creating the zone? You can also try doing: pkg -R /export/webserver-zone image-update -nv To see if it'll show you any more details. Anil Entic.net Solaris Cloud Servers On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk wrote: Hi Alasdair, Tried pkg image-update as su and got No Updates for this image available. Retried creating the zone same as before. Pkg publisher info below, de...@chicco:~# pkg publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI openindiana.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ opensolaris.org origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/ Thanks, Deano -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lumsden [mailto:alasdai...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 January 2011 04:00 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones Hi Deano, I hit this problem myself - can you try running pkg image-update again? I had to run it twice before OI stated No updates available. If you get Np updates available and your Zones still won't install, then something more serious may be up. It would also be useful to see the output of pkg publisher Cheers, Alasdair On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:59, Deano wrote: Hi, Sent this yesterday but seems to have disappeared, resending with another log of another failed attempt. I'm trying to create a zone but it keeps failing... Machine is a fresh install of 147, then pkg image_update to 148, Few mini admin tasks (set Primary Administrator, took a snapshot etc.) Then tried to create zones Zfs create rpool/export/zones Zonecfg -z dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone create zonecfg:dev-zone set zonepath=/export/zones/dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone verify zonecfg:dev-zone commit zonecfg:dev-zone exit de...@chicco:~$ pfexec zoneadm -z dev-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/zones/dev-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Tried lots of combinations, setting zone net parameters, different zonepath and zfs bits but always fails to install the core packages. Never done zones before, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but the existing howtos and guides I could find seem to indicate this used to work on oSol? Latest log Last login: Fri Jan 7 10:59:57 2011 from 192.168.254.3 OpenIndiana SunOS 5.11 oi_148 November 2010 de...@chicco:~$ su Password: de...@chicco:~# zonecfg -z webserver-zone webserver-zone: No such zone configured Use 'create' to begin configuring a new zone. zonecfg:webserver-zone create zonecfg:webserver-zone set autoboot=true zonecfg:webserver-zone set zonepath=/export/webserver-zone zonecfg:webserver-zone info zonecfg:webserver-zone verify zonecfg:webserver-zone commit zonecfg:webserver-zone exit de...@chicco:~# zoneadm list -cv ID NAME STATUS PATH BRAND IP 0 global running / ipkg shared - webserver-zone configured /export/webserver-zone ipkg shared de...@chicco:~# mkdir /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# chmod 700 /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone verify de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/webserver-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones
Hi Alasdair, Tried pkg image-update as su and got No Updates for this image available. Retried creating the zone same as before. Pkg publisher info below, de...@chicco:~# pkg publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI openindiana.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ opensolaris.org origin online http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/ Thanks, Deano -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lumsden [mailto:alasdai...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 January 2011 04:00 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones Hi Deano, I hit this problem myself - can you try running pkg image-update again? I had to run it twice before OI stated No updates available. If you get Np updates available and your Zones still won't install, then something more serious may be up. It would also be useful to see the output of pkg publisher Cheers, Alasdair On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:59, Deano wrote: Hi, Sent this yesterday but seems to have disappeared, resending with another log of another failed attempt. I'm trying to create a zone but it keeps failing... Machine is a fresh install of 147, then pkg image_update to 148, Few mini admin tasks (set Primary Administrator, took a snapshot etc.) Then tried to create zones Zfs create rpool/export/zones Zonecfg -z dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone create zonecfg:dev-zone set zonepath=/export/zones/dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone verify zonecfg:dev-zone commit zonecfg:dev-zone exit de...@chicco:~$ pfexec zoneadm -z dev-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/zones/dev-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Tried lots of combinations, setting zone net parameters, different zonepath and zfs bits but always fails to install the core packages. Never done zones before, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but the existing howtos and guides I could find seem to indicate this used to work on oSol? Latest log Last login: Fri Jan 7 10:59:57 2011 from 192.168.254.3 OpenIndiana SunOS 5.11 oi_148 November 2010 de...@chicco:~$ su Password: de...@chicco:~# zonecfg -z webserver-zone webserver-zone: No such zone configured Use 'create' to begin configuring a new zone. zonecfg:webserver-zone create zonecfg:webserver-zone set autoboot=true zonecfg:webserver-zone set zonepath=/export/webserver-zone zonecfg:webserver-zone info zonecfg:webserver-zone verify zonecfg:webserver-zone commit zonecfg:webserver-zone exit de...@chicco:~# zoneadm list -cv ID NAME STATUS PATH BRANDIP 0 global running/ ipkg shared - webserver-zone configured /export/webserver-zone ipkg shared de...@chicco:~# mkdir /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# chmod 700 /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone verify de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/webserver-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Thanks for your help, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI148 and zones
Hi, Sent this yesterday but seems to have disappeared, resending with another log of another failed attempt. I'm trying to create a zone but it keeps failing... Machine is a fresh install of 147, then pkg image_update to 148, Few mini admin tasks (set Primary Administrator, took a snapshot etc.) Then tried to create zones Zfs create rpool/export/zones Zonecfg -z dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone create zonecfg:dev-zone set zonepath=/export/zones/dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone verify zonecfg:dev-zone commit zonecfg:dev-zone exit de...@chicco:~$ pfexec zoneadm -z dev-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/zones/dev-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Tried lots of combinations, setting zone net parameters, different zonepath and zfs bits but always fails to install the core packages. Never done zones before, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but the existing howtos and guides I could find seem to indicate this used to work on oSol? Latest log Last login: Fri Jan 7 10:59:57 2011 from 192.168.254.3 OpenIndiana SunOS 5.11 oi_148 November 2010 de...@chicco:~$ su Password: de...@chicco:~# zonecfg -z webserver-zone webserver-zone: No such zone configured Use 'create' to begin configuring a new zone. zonecfg:webserver-zone create zonecfg:webserver-zone set autoboot=true zonecfg:webserver-zone set zonepath=/export/webserver-zone zonecfg:webserver-zone info zonecfg:webserver-zone verify zonecfg:webserver-zone commit zonecfg:webserver-zone exit de...@chicco:~# zoneadm list -cv ID NAME STATUS PATH BRANDIP 0 global running/ ipkg shared - webserver-zone configured /export/webserver-zone ipkg shared de...@chicco:~# mkdir /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# chmod 700 /export/webserver-zone de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone verify de...@chicco:~# zoneadm -z webserver-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/webserver-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Thanks for your help, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Create a zone on OI148
Hi, I'm trying to create a zone but it keeps failing... Machine is a fresh install of 147, then pkg image_update to 148, Few mini admin tasks (set Primary Administrator, took a snapshot etc.) Then tried to create zones Zfs create rpool/export/zones Zonecfg -z dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone create zonecfg:dev-zone set zonepath=/export/zones/dev-zone zonecfg:dev-zone verify zonecfg:dev-zone commit zonecfg:dev-zone exit de...@chicco:~$ pfexec zoneadm -z dev-zone install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /export/zones/dev-zone/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) pkg: No solution was found to satisfy constraints ERROR: failed to install package Tried lots of combinations, setting zone net parameters, different zonepath and zfs bits but always fails to install the core packages. Never done zones before, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but the existing howtos and guides I could find seem to indicate this used to work on oSol? Thanks for your help, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OHAC
Kent wrote Given the current absence of OHAC, are there any creative ways of creating a highly available ZFS cluster to serve as an iSCSI target with OpenIndiana? I need to build a series of these and would even consider placing a bounty on OHAC integration if it is feasible. We currently have our own solution to this, but it not a general solution. We have taken a different tact and modified zfs, to handle node failures and large numbers of simultaneous disk failures. How big are the iSCSI target clusters you aiming at? If its not too large you may be able to create a solution using cleverly placed raw iSCSI targets and multiple RAIDz and mirrors but YMMV How far did the OHAC / AVS get? What areas of the project needs work? Its certainly an area I'm also interested in. Happy Holidays, Deano de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] anyone home?
I'm close to using OpenIndiana r147 in production (go live next month!), so far its passed all the tests I've thrown at it. Though obviously being such a new distribution (even with the Solaris history) its something that I'm going to have to stay on top of. I'm going to evaluate 148 when its done and watch security updates like a hawk. Hopefully soon a general security update process will be in place. I don't use it for Glassfish or Java, so can't speak for that (ZFS, Node.js and Nginx are the main apps I'm hosting on OI) HTH, Deano Cloud Pixies Ltd. de...@cloudpixies.com -Original Message- From: Roelof van der Wal [mailto:r...@4top.nl] Sent: 17 December 2010 10:23 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] anyone home? Thanks all for the warm welcoming. Who is using OpenIndiana in a production environment? Is it risky or just as good as Solaris used to be? Has anyone used Glassfish on OpenIndiana? I read some previous posts but it seems that Oracle created a nice smoke curtain around the licenses. As far as I know now I can download and install the Opensource Glassfish 3.0.1 and the seperate JDK1.6_023 without problems/additional licenses. But if I download the bundled Java EE 6 Web Profile SDK then I may only TEST it. Can I still use blastwave and Sunfreeware? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Lou Picciano [mailto:loupicci...@comcast.net] Verzonden: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:47 AM Aan: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Onderwerp: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] anyone home? Roelof, Lots of life. You've come to the right place. (this coming from a fellow junkie!) Lou Picciano - Original Message - From: Roelof van der Wal r...@4top.nl To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 3:56:25 AM Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] anyone home? I just want to know if there is life in the OpenIndiana community and if OpenIndiana is the right alternative for a lonely Solaris addict. # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana AI boot image
Hi, The Solaris manual for AI (Automated Installer) talks about an AI boot iso that isn't the DVD or USB iso, does OpenIndiana have one? If not has anybody done it before, and got any hints outside the manuals? Thanks, Deano Cloud Pixies Ltd. de...@cloudpixies.com ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana AI boot image
Thanks a lot, downloading as we speak :) Deano -Original Message- From: Jeppe Toustrup [mailto:openindi...@tenzer.dk] Sent: 17 December 2010 13:03 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana AI boot image 2010/12/17 Deano de...@rattie.demon.co.uk: The Solaris manual for AI (Automated Installer) talks about an AI boot iso that isn't the DVD or USB iso, does OpenIndiana have one? Those images was not generated for the oi_147 version, but they exist for the RC of oi_148 and can be found here (They have ai in their name): http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/148/ -- Venlig hilsen / Kind regards Jeppe Toustrup (aka. Tenzer) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] openindiana state
Hi, I'd like to help with some work on the OI platform, I'm using it successfully on several different machines and am very impressed. However one serious problem I've hit so far, is that the guide to compiling things doesn't actually work very well. IO, Illumos, ONNV, JDS, Sunstudio, GCC 3, GCC 4 and so on. Each seem to have an arcane list of commands to follow and even then it doesn't work. I.e. I've got Illumos to compile but the install part (onu?) fails completely on mine. If someone who knows what it takes to make a full build environment for Illumos and OpenIndiana, could make an IPS package, that would I expect get some more interest in helping out. At the moment, it is just so damn hard to get started if you come from a Linux/Windows dev environment, that I suspect most people give up and go work on an easier to help project. In an ideal world, I could grab the OI text installer, then use pfexec pkg install IOBuildEnv, change into a directory, make install and be able to run with an own built OI. Then fixing bugs and writing new drivers, etc could happen much easier. Thanks, Deano -Original Message- From: Guido Berhoerster [mailto:g...@openindiana.org] Sent: 13 December 2010 13:12 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] openindiana state * Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com [2010-12-13 05:28]: As a OpenIndiana user I'm curious what is the present state of the OpenIndiana project? OpenIndiana b148 will be released real soon now, yesterday we discovered some showstoppers which have been fixed. For the next release we will focus on replacing Oracle's ONNV with Illumos which will likely take a bit of time given our limited manpower. The reason I'm asking is because I have noticed a decline of activity in the mailing lists compared to when the project first started and OpenIndiana's home website has not really been It just means nobody has volunteered to improve it, most of us are working on the actual distribution. We will try to make it easier for people to get involved, however despite the large interest in the project so far very few people have shown interest in actually doing work on the project. So if anybody is interested in contributing feel free to contact us on oi-...@openindiana.org or #oi-dev on IRC. Contributions do not have to be purely technical, e.g. help with marketing including improvements to the main website or documentation would all be appreciated as well and probably speed up development pace. -- Guido Berhoerster ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] openindiana state
Alan Wrote That's partially inherited from OpenSolaris and Solaris before it. No one at Sun ever built all the consolidations - each was done by its own team and while we tried to have some coordination on things like a common compiler version, we never worried about all the other details, and certainly never designed a make World process or unified set of required packages to build them all. Hmm perhaps rather than complaining, I've found my first item to work on for OI :) Whilst people are paid to work on a code base, and can pop over to the build guru cubicle for a quick chat, complex builds aren't that much of a problem (well until you get told to update one...) but IMHO for open source projects, the lower the cost to entry the better. I'm more than happy to have a go but whilst I have many years of experience with compilers and builds never before have I reached into Solaris country, so will likely have lots of stupid questions along the way. The first set of which are perhaps the hardest to answer... Where to start? I'll use myself as an example, as newbie use cases, for several areas I wanted/want to get my feet wet in. Use case 1: Wanted to make a small tighter build, as looking to take OI into production. Classic reduce the attack vector optimizations, for that I want to remove a whole bunch of stuff, kermel modules, drivers and applications. This is more of distribution issue rather than build environment issue, but a debootstrap style minimal install is a great place to start to create custom JEOSs. As OI is so new, the smaller its footprint in production the better whilst it stabilizes. Use case 2: Install fresh OI 147/148 and doesn't quite support a piece of hardware. So want to write/fix a driver. What should the package I download (IPS?) contain to allow me to do that? Is it purely enough to have a compileable Illumos environment? Or is Illumos itself fractured so that its better to go into Illumos first and make it work with a smallest set of requirements? Or... am I barking up the wrong tree? And driver writing is doable somehow else? Use case 3: Installed fresh OI 147/148 and want to compile and run latest version of popular open source programs (for example Nginx), perhaps port and optimize for the OI platform. This is I think already covered somewhat by the GNU packages but even that gets confusing as there are several and have pathing issues. All these use cases are ideal candidates, to make easier to get started, as they are all fairly usual entry points for new developers. Any thoughts? Deano ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
