[OpenIndiana-discuss] Heads up: Python Solaris support at risk

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Is you care about Python future on Solaris family, please say so in
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommendations for fast storage

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On 17/04/13 02:10, Jay Heyl wrote:
> Not to get into bickering about semantics, but I asked, "Or am I
> wrong about reads being issued in parallel to all the mirrors in
> the array?"

Each read is issued only to a (lets say, "random") disk in the mirror,
unless the read is faulty.

You can check this easily with "zpool iostat -v".

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

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On 28/01/13 02:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote:
>> 
>> Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY 
>> interested in a security supported version.
> 
> How much are you willing to pay for this service?
> 
> Oracle charges $1k/year per socket.

I would actually pay something.

But consider this:

* I can't deploy OpenIndiana without some kind of security updates.

* I have tons of clients evaluating OpenIndiana, being amazed by ZFS
and DTrace, but can't consider seriously since there is no security plan.

An OpenIndiana future goes thru an official OI release, with security
fixes for a while. Those markets are, currently, closed for OI.

About how costly this could be, Red Hat is a huge business. And we
could follow a major Linux release, like Debian or Ubuntu, to track
security notifications/patches. Maybe even a community security
supported version.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap

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Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY
interested in a security supported version.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

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On 10/12/12 12:10, Roel_D wrote:
> Do we know how many downloads / bandwidth the OpenIndiana
> hostingplatform needs per month?
> 
> I consider to participate in the hosting of a Europian mirror.

I serve OI via BitTorrent (unfortunately this service seems like
discontinued in the OI web. BAD!). I served around 233GB until the BT
tracker died.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Lista de discusión en español.

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On 19/09/12 19:34, Pepe Komatsu wrote:
> I like to know if any proyect around Illumos or OI exists in
> Spanish at this time. If no, who many of you that talking Spanish
> want to help me to create it.

In the old days, there was a Spanish OpenSolaris User Group. After
Oracle buying Sun, the group was demoralized and died.

Count me in.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Current ZFS Backup projects

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On 11/09/12 16:56, Mark Creamer wrote:
> A recent thread caused me to look for open source projects that
> leverage ZFS to backup systems. I found a couple, such as OmniTI's 
> Zetaback,

I am interested on this too.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Calibre doc converter to ebooks formats for OpenIndiana??

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On 09/08/12 22:55, Lou Picciano wrote:
> Really, the developer has fully granular control over which binary
> to use in a given environment; they coexist quite nicely in
> separate trees. (Some crazy developer might well have 2.4, 2.6, 2.7
> and 3.2, all in harmonious cohabitation.)

This is actually quite common. My Solaris 10 development machine:

"""
[root@babylon5 jcea]# d /usr/local/bin/python*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   7 Apr 12 13:06 /usr/local/bin/python ->
python2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 Apr 12 13:06 /usr/local/bin/python2 ->
python2.7
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3108840 Apr 24  2008 /usr/local/bin/python2.3
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3340612 Apr 24  2008 /usr/local/bin/python2.4
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root7796 Mar 14  2008 /usr/local/bin/python2.5
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1424 Mar 14  2008
/usr/local/bin/python2.5-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root7848 Oct  4  2010 /usr/local/bin/python2.6
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1424 Oct  4  2010
/usr/local/bin/python2.6-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root9184 Apr 12 13:05 /usr/local/bin/python2.7
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1624 Apr 12 13:06
/usr/local/bin/python2.7-config
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 Apr 12 13:06
/usr/local/bin/python2-config -> python2.7-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root   19548 Apr 12 13:31 /usr/local/bin/python3
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   10276 Apr 22  2009 /usr/local/bin/python3.0
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1401 Apr 22  2009
/usr/local/bin/python3.0-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   12444 Jun 13  2011 /usr/local/bin/python3.1
- -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1401 Jun 13  2011
/usr/local/bin/python3.1-config
- -rwxr-xr-x 3 root root   19548 Apr 12 13:31 /usr/local/bin/python3.2
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  16 Apr 12 13:31
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  14 Apr 12 13:06
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfully upgraded 'rpool' from version 28 to version 5000

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On 06/07/12 16:29, Daniel Kjar wrote:
>   Version 5000  is this right?

Yes. It is "flag version". From now on, new features will be flagged
using a "flag", not a version number.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Any plan for security supported release

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I have been waiting for the last year or two to replace my Solaris 10
machines with OpenIndiana, but I need a security supported release.

I was convinced that we would have such a release in late 2011, but we
are mid-2012 and still waiting :-).

Any progress in this area?. Is this still a pursued idea?. Any
schedule?. Should I forget about this? :-)

Thanks for this stunning effort.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

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On 07/06/12 17:06, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Jesus Cea wrote:
>> 
>> I always wondered WHY. What is the point of keeping separate ZILs
>> (one per dataset) when having a discrete LOG device.
>> 
>> Any idea?.
> 
> The implementation is obviously very much simplified by using
> discrete contiguous ZILs.  Otherwise there is a lot more complexity
> and activity to track which I/Os have completed.  With the current
> approach, only one write is necessary to record that a batch of
> writes have been committed to the pool.

Uhm and how is it done when you don't have a LOG device?. That is,
when the ZILs are in the harddisk?. There moving the disk arm should
be something to avoid/reduce.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

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On 07/06/12 15:17, Matt Clark wrote:
> That's true, but if you look at slides 24 & 25 of 
> http://www.ddrdrive.com/zil_accelerator.pdf you'll see seek 
> distributions for a SLOG device with the ZILs for five filesystems
> - although each ZIL is broadly append only (slides 21 and 22),
> there is still a lot of seeking going on.  Of course if you only
> had one active FS on a pool, the activity would be almost pure
> append, so sequential write performance would be the most important
> factor.

I always wondered WHY. What is the point of keeping separate ZILs (one
per dataset) when having a discrete LOG device.

Any idea?.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What advantages of KVM over Vbox

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On 09/12/11 19:43, Kent Watsen wrote:
> VBox will run on AMD, whereas KVM won't  (unfortunately)

I wonder if there is any work in progress for supporting AMD.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] DTrace probes in Python 2.7 (and next 3.3)

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On 24/11/11 19:49, Andrzej Szeszo wrote:
> Hi Jesus
> 
> Just noticed that there is a python 2.7 package in Oracle's
> userland repo here:
> 
> <http://hg.openindiana.org/upstream/oracle/userland-gate/file/ea6a3f09379c/components/python/python27>
>
> 
> 
> It includes DTrace patch. Did you see/use that?

That was my starting point.

Talking about that... How is the license going?. Mailing the guy...

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] DTrace probes in Python 2.7 (and next 3.3)

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Hi all.

I have spend some time trying to integrate DTrace probes in official
Python: Currently I have a patch to python 2.7, and my plan in to
integrate officially in 3.3.

The initial probes were based on previous work from OpenSolaris, and
similar, but currently I have quite a few more probes. Current details
in
<http://hg.jcea.es/cpython-2011/file/b1a39702dfd8/Doc/library/dtrace.rst>

The probes are tested under Solaris 10 x86 and x86-64. I would need
somebody to try on Solaris 10 Sparc (32 and 64 bits), Solaris 11,
OpenIndiana, FreeBSD (seems to need a kernel recompilation to enable
user mode tracing, check Google), Mac (I doubt it works as is), etc.,
any other platform running DTrace. What about SystemTap compatibility?

Details: <http://bugs.python.org/issue13405>

How to check: <http://bugs.python.org/issue13405#msg147706>.

The easier way to get the patch is to clone my repository at
<https://hg.jcea.es/cpython-2011/> (with mercurial) and move to the
branch "dtrace-issue13405_2.7". Keep the clone around if you plan to
try future versions of this patch, including the future 3.3 version.

You can manually apply the patch in
<http://bugs.python.org/file23758/a9f4ae43fd85.diff> to python 2.7.2+
sourcecode. The patch is developed against version 3c3009f63700
(2011-11-14). It might not apply cleanly to 2.7.2 sourcecode (not
checked). I will provide a direct patch to 2.7.3 when available. Maybe
to 2.7.2 if there is demand.

This is still work in progress. I will improve support with your
feedback. I am considering probes to monitor GIL and thinking how to
monitor C function calls from Python in an easy and fast way. Feedback
very welcomed.

Please, if you care about this, test it and provide some feedback :).

PS: Better post feedback in the bug tracker that by personal email :-).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] cleaning out stale entries in zpool cache

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On 24/10/11 17:18, George Wilson wrote:
> Since these disks are mirrors in your current pool, you could
> detach them and then try dd-ing over the first megabyte of the
> disk. This should blow away the partition table. I would verify
> that you can no longer see the disk by using the 'zdb' command
> below. Once you're satisfied then you can re-attach it your
> mirror.

If you are using EFI labels, you must delete both the beginning and
the end of the disk. The EFI label is stored in both places, and the
ZFS uberblocks also.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] smb keeps failing?

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On 23/09/11 21:12, Richard Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 02:17:05PM -0400, Dan Swartzendruber
> wrote:
>> Richard Jones wrote:
> 
>>> I'm a near complete newbie at Open{Indiana,Solaris} but have
>>> you looked at /var/svc/log too? That seems to be where service
>>> information is kept.
> 
>> Oh, good points, Richard, thanks! I see a couple of messages from
>> a couple of days ago about service stopping because disabled or 
>> whatever. I'll keep an eye out, and next time it happens, I will 
>> look at things before bouncing the service...
> 
> Glad to help! svcs -x is also your friend.
> 
> Just one question for you and the rest of the list. I've been a
> sysadmin for about 10 years, mostly linux, and a bit of Solaris 7
> and 8 when it was current. Has anyone come across "Rosetta Stone"
> docs? For instance, I'm learning, or know nothing about NFSv4 ACLs,
> containers, ZFS (though learning fast), SMF, pkg package management
> and all the rest I've no even heard of. Man pages and online docs
> presume limited unix knowledge and are accordingly frustrating.

Read the Oracle/Sun Solaris 10 documentation. They are really good,
although, OI features are not documented there, of course.

I was wondering if Illumos/OpenIndiana is planning something along the
lines. Having to dig in blogs and random tweets is not very
"professional".

> 
> (And I have to say, I hated looking after those Solaris boxes, but
> it really seems to have come along!)
> 
> R
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Announcing OpenIndiana Build 151a

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On 14/09/11 05:37, Albert Lee wrote:
> Today, the OpenIndiana project is pleased to announce the next 
> development release of the open source, enterprise operating
> system. OpenIndiana build 151a is now available for 32- and 64-bit
> x86 systems.

Stopping the 148 seeding, and starting 151a seeding via BitTorrent. I
will keep it 24x7 until the next release.

> Look for our first stable release in the near future!

Impatient to be able to move my solaris 10 servers to a supported OI
release, with free security&stability patches :-)

Any tentative date for the release?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to replace a motherboard without reinstalling OpenIndiana

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On 10/09/11 17:00, Robin Axelsson wrote:
> Well, last time I replaced the motherboard, the operating system 
> (OpenSolaris b134) froze upon boot. I replaced a Gigabyte 
> GA-MA790FXT-UD5P with my current motherboard (MSI 790FX-GD70). It
> froze with the boot splash and I resolved the issue by reinstalling
> opensolaris.
> 
> In this swap, there won't be two Realtek RTL8111DL NIC's, instead
> there will be one Intel EXPI9400PT and one Realtek RTL8111E. There
> will also not be the AMD790FX chipset but an AMD990FX chipset. So
> I'm really curious as to how OI will handle this.
> 
> It will most likely freeze upon boot or if I'm lucky boot up with
> only one ethernet port.

I am unexperienced with OpenIndiana, but when Solaris boots a new
hardware, you must do a "touch /reconfigure" first, to force a
hardware re-analisis at boot time.

If you already did the hardware change and the system crashes at boot,
boot from a LiveCD, import the "zpool", do the "touch
ROOT_PATH_ZPOOL/reconfigure" and reboot.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "init 6/reboot" reboots the OS but not the hardware

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On 04/08/11 21:37, Gary Mills wrote:
> You can also use `init 0', and then type a key on the console to get
> to the BIOS screens.

This has been actually useful, Gary. Thanks.

Now if only "init 0" could shutdown SMF services in a graceful way... Or
maybe it does (like "init 6"), I am not sure since this machine is
basically "empty", yet.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "init 6/reboot" reboots the OS but not the hardware

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On 04/08/11 20:59, Steve Gonczi wrote:
> You need remote reset or remote power cycle capability. An ILOM
> console, if your hardware has support for it would provide this.
> 
> ILOM is common on most server class hardware ( Sun servers certainly
> have it, so do Supermicro boards).
> 
> Failing that, there are inexpensive remote power cycle power outlets
> you can buy. These allow power control of the individual power plugs
> remotely.

My main problem here is that my KVM IP is running in the same machine
and that remote power on/off cycle is "requested" and done in a short
but unpredictable time.

So, the usual problem is that I am disconnected from the KVM and, even
if I reconnect fast, the BIOS screen is already gone.

Painful.

Anyway, somebody else already replied the real question. The answer is
"google fastboot openindiana".

I think this is very useful, but I would love to have the explicit
choice (without messing with SMF propertied) between fastboot "init 6"
or "full hardware boot" "init 6".

"init 6" behaviour seems to be hardcoded, I can't influence it via
"/etc/inittab". Maybe I could write a (non trivial?) shell script to
simulate "init 6" with a "reboot -p" at the end... Suggestions?

PS: Or download "init" sourcecode and write the functionality myself,
althought it seems pretty overkill...

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] "init 6/reboot" reboots the OS but not the hardware

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On 04/08/11 20:54, Cyril Plisko wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jesus Cea  wrote:
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>> Hi, I just upgraded an aged OpenSolaris 2009.6 to OpenIndiana 148 
>> and I have a silly but annoying issue.
>> 
>> When doing "init 6" or, even, "reboot", the OS shutdowns and reboot
>> inmediatelly, but the machine not actually reboots.
> 
> That is  a feature called "fast" reboot (and a very useful one!) Use 
> reboot -p for older reboot behaviour. See reboot(1M) for more info.

Oh, interesting.

Reading the manual, I see:

"""
 If service svc:/system/boot-config:default  is  enabled  and
 property  config/fastreboot_default  is  set to true, the -f
 option can be omitted.
"""

I guess this affects "reboot" and "init 6".

My next question is... if I disable fast reboot, I can still do it with
"reboot -f" but... can I do a fast reboot with "init 6"?. Conversely, if
I have enabled "fastboot" but I want a full reboot with "init 6", can it
be done? Without modifying the property, that is. Any other command?. I
am interested in the orderly shutdown of services that "init 6" does.

Interesting too the option to boot to concrete GRUB entries...

PS: Doing "init 5" usually shutdown the machine, but with OI 148 it
'halts' the computer, without powering off. I guess it is the same
"fastboot" handling in action, isn't it?.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] "init 6/reboot" reboots the OS but not the hardware

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Hi, I just upgraded an aged OpenSolaris 2009.6 to OpenIndiana 148 and I
have a silly but annoying issue.

When doing "init 6" or, even, "reboot", the OS shutdowns and reboot
inmediatelly, but the machine not actually reboots.

That is, the system is shutdown and the kernel reboots inmediatelly,
just like would do a "zone reboot", but the machine doesn't powercycle,
doesn't show the BIOS, doesn't show the POST, and, the really annoying
thing in this case, doesn't show the GRUB menu. And this is critical to me.

The machine is in a remote datacenter, but I have KVM access. What can I
do?.

My GRUB entry is: (just in case is something related to the way I launch OI)

"""
root@ns224064:~# cat /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst
default 2
timeout 10

title opensolaris-2
bootfs rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-2
kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -v -B $ZFS-BOOTFS
module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive
# End of LIBBE entry =

title SOLARIS10
  rootnoverify (hd2,0)
  chainloader +1

title OpenIndiana-148
bootfs rpool/ROOT/OpenIndiana-148
kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -v -B $ZFS-BOOTFS
module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive
#==== End of LIBBE entry =
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] eBook Daily Deal - DTrace: Dynamic Tracing in Solaris, Mac OS X, and FreeBSD

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On 08/04/11 13:16, Philip J. Robar wrote:
> DTrace is also available on Linux in a slightly lesser form. (It doesn't 
> change the kernel's source code.)

References?. Are you talking about the systemtap thing?.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Broadcom GB NIC

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On 08/04/11 01:57, Gary Driggs wrote:
> For curiosity's sake, which systems have bge interfaces?

For instance Sun X2100. I still have quite a few around, bought in late
2005/early 2006.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Grub2 and OI

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On 01/04/11 17:45, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> On 03/31/11 10:20 PM, Christopher Chan wrote:
>> ZFS support was added to grub2?
>>
>> I thought that the grub team did not take the patches and so only sun grub 
>> had
>> zfs support?
> 
> They took the patches for grub2:
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.boot-loaders.grub.devel/17064
> 
> I believe they didn't take them for the older grub, because they're only 
> adding
> features to grub2 now, and not to any older branches.

My ubuntu laptop (10.04) has GRUB2 ZFS components:

"""
jcea@ubuntu:/boot/grub$ ls -la *zfs*
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  6208 2011-04-01 04:52 zfsinfo.mod
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24080 2011-04-01 04:52 zfs.mod
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana hosting advocating?

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When I check around for hosting services (I do it a lot, part of my job)
I always check availability of Solaris like OSs. I must say that the
result is sad.

OVH is the only cheap service that provides OpenSolaris 2009.06 support.
And that OS is getting old fast. Do you know of anything else?

I was wondering if OpenIndiana should have some kind of "advocates" to
try to make easy for hosting services to deploy OI hosted servers on par
with fedora/debian/ubuntu/whatever linux flavour they already do.

I really think this visibility would be a huge PR win, and would help to
increase userbase a lot.

And yes, this would be nice to sync with the OI "stable" release, with
maintenance, security fixes, etc. But I suppose that "advocating" should
be started as soon as possible.

PS: Everytime I see an interesting hosted server with no
Solaris/OpenSolaris option, I always send an email asking for it. No
success so far :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Finding current runlevel?

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On 10/02/11 15:35, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
>> Trying who -r on openindiana 147/148 seems to fail. I have tested this
>> on three machines plus a VM so far, all on 148, but one was rebooted
>> to an old BE with 147 just to see if there were any differences, which
>> there wasn't. The output I get is
>>
>> . run-level 3 Feb 10 13:36 3 0 S
> 
> Sorry - that was wrong (or right). The above is what I get form an old 
> opensolaris install. From OI, I get this
> 
>  run-level2011-02-10 13:43

This seems to be a "bug" in GNU "who" implementation.

Running this in Solaris 10, I get:

"""
[root@stargate-host /]# /usr/bin/who -r (NATIVE SUN VERSION)
   .   run-level 3  Jan 18 20:33 3  0  S

[root@stargate-host /]# /usr/local/bin/who -r   (GNU VERSION)
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] beagleboard (arm) port?

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On 08/02/11 16:00, taemun wrote:
> It's generally accepted that two things can break a ZFS pool: the use of
> non-ECC RAM; and storage devices which do not respect cache flushes. You're
> aiming for a system which is likely to have both. The latter by virtue of
> the fact that most USB <=> SATA controllers often don't respect sync
> requests. Both of these can lead to broken metadata/uberblocks and hence a
> broken pool.

Caché flushes are important. The fist step I do when getting a new
computer&disk is to write a small program (like 5 lines long) to write
small (1 byte) data followed by a "fsync". If the number of fsyncs per
second is too high, I know I can't trust the disk.

Python code:

"""
import os, time
syncs = 1
f = open("zz","w")
t = time.time()
for i in xrange(syncs) :
f.write("a")
f.flush()
os.fsync(f)
print "Realizamos %d transacciones por segundo" %(syncs/(time.time()-t))
"""

Using 7200 RPM disks, the right value is around 120 transactions per
second. If the value is far higher, "somebody" is lying to you about
caché flushes.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing "torrent"

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On 19/01/11 21:09, Modified wrote:
>> "OpenIndiana Build 148 x86 Live USB for dd, 1.0G" exists, but there is
>> no MD5/SHA1 checksums, neither torrent a torrent file.
>>
>> Could somebody solve it?.
> 
> I made a torrent for this Image:
> http://www.seedpeer.com/details/3326157/oi-dev-148-x86-usb-writable-with-dd.html

Finally, OI people published a torrent file for this image. The problem
is... the torrent generated is not very compatible, at least with "old"
BitTorrent clients:

"""
Problem connecting to tracker - ('url error', 'unknown url type', 'udp',
'udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce?info_
"""

UDP trackers are an extensión to BT protocol that not all clients
support. Would you possibly generate a "standard" torrent file, like the
other torrents in the webpage?.

Thanks...

PS: No, I can't change my BT client.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

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On 26/01/11 12:48, Jesus Cea wrote:

> OI 148 uses sendmail. The stable release should be minimal change,
> security fixes only. Any extra developer will be used to integrate Illumos.

Any extra developer TIME would be better spent integrating Illumos.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

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On 26/01/11 04:22, Ken Gunderson wrote:
> Sure, the *BSD ship with Sendmail, but that is mostly for historical
> reasons and that nobody wants to get into a holy war as to what a more
> modern default should be.  At the time Debian opted for Exim, Sendmail
> was one security exploit after another waiting to happen, Postfix was
> not yet in existence and Qmail, the other potential contender, had an
> unacceptable license.  Several Linux distributions ship with Postfix.
> Just because Oracle makes a poor decision and ships Sendmail doesn't
> mean OI necessarily has to follow, no?

Well, it has been ages since the last sendmail remote exploit, but I
personally know quite a few guys rebuilding servers after being
exploited thru Exim (just days -a week?- ago).

OI 148 uses sendmail. The stable release should be minimal change,
security fixes only. Any extra developer will be used to integrate Illumos.

If a 3th party provides a postfix replacement for sendmail, perfect. But
do not delay 148+support for the sake of it.

PS: I personally use postfix too.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] sun people that has left oracle after acquisition

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On 19/01/11 14:13, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
>> There is no commercial support for Training like the Sun
>> Microsystems Days.
>> 
>> Thats the issue, we spoke about.
>> 
>> Or that's what i understood. ;)
> 
> In different words, people want to pay to get trained? And what
> about all these online resources, the thousands of  printed pages or
> books, papers, articles, etc.?

I guess the point is not the education side, but the certification in
your wall.

BTW, a good training week would take far longer with self-teaching.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing "torrent"

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http://openindiana.org/download/

"OpenIndiana Build 148 x86 Live USB for dd, 1.0G" exists, but there is
no MD5/SHA1 checksums, neither torrent a torrent file.

Could somebody solve it?.

Thanks.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana branding

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On 14/01/11 21:53, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> OpenIndiana is technically SunOS 5.11, and to maintain compatibility
> we'll be keeping this for the foreseeable future. Perhaps in the very
> distant future a version bump might occur, but we're talking 5+ years
> here I imagine.

While I support "SunOS 5.11" naming, I am a bit afraid of compatibility
divergences with the coming Solaris 11, also known as "SunOS 5.11". So
we will have two different systems reporting "SunOS 5.11" that are not
actually the same system.

I don't have any better proposal, though. Maybe considering any
incompatibility with Solaris 11 a "bug to be fixed" could be a good
advice. Time will tell, I guess.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Missing OI 148 USB "dd" version

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A few days after OI 148 release, we are still missing "OpenIndiana Build
148 x86 Live USB for dd, 1.0G" file in <http://openindiana.org/download/>.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Torrents (Was: Re: OI_148 available)

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Some files don't have any seed, not ever the "initial" seeder:

Not a single bit downloaded in the last ?8? hours:

oi-dev-148-ai-x86.iso
oi-dev-148-text-x86.usb
oi-dev-148-ai-x86.usb

Downloading slowly, will seed when done:
oi-dev-148-text-x86.iso (13.8%, downloading at 4KB/s)

Seeding now:
oi-dev-148-x86.usb
oi-dev-148-x86.iso

Waiting too for the "OpenIndiana Build 148 x86 Live USB for dd" file to
be published.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI_148 available

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On 18/12/10 17:58, taemun wrote:
> Torrents have just been put up.
> 
> The initial seeder has rather bad upload, so getting your torrent client to
> hash one you've already downloaded would be a good idea (until Jesus Cea &c
> is around).

I stop seeding 147. Stats:

oi-dev-147-x86.usb: 56.38GB
oi-dev-147-x86.usb.writable with-dd: 48.35GB
oi-dev-147-x86.iso: 87.80gGB

Seeding 148 now. Thanks.

I don't have enough space in my HD now for all the files, so my download
will be partial until tomorrow, when I clean up things.

PS: When the new dd->usb file is available, let me know to seed it too.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI_148 available

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On 18/12/10 04:13, Jon Tibble wrote:
> torrents are in the works with the dd usable usb stuff.  I've just added 
> SHA1s 
> to the
> download page so you can use those.

THANKS!. Waiting for them.

> Some people are having an issue with old cached md5 files from the beta 
> testing.  If
> you have this issue use the SHA1s as they weren't around to be cached during 
> testing.

If you call the MD5 link "md5sum", you should call the SHA1 link "sha1sum".

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI_148 available

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On 18/12/10 00:36, Jon Tibble wrote:
> Project OpenIndiana is pleased to announce the next development release,
> oi_148, is available.
>
> Existing users can image-update from their current repositories.
>
> Images of various formats (dd-usb to follow shortly) are available here:
> http://openindiana.org/download/

Please, publish the torrent files!.

Also MD5 hashes are a bit weak, would be nice to publish SHA1 hashes,
replacing MD5 or in addition to MD5.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana 134+ Stable X86, rev. 11

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On 16/12/10 23:12, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
> Can someone with access to the web portal please add these there, and
> also, please package them as torrents. My website (karlsbakk.net) is
> currently limited to 30kBps per download and may be limited further
> because otherwise, it might be expensive. A torrent is a better
> approach, but I've never made one :P

Please, post the SHA1 checksums of the files.

When "somebody" generates the torrents, please notify. I will seed.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] anyone home?

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On 17/12/10 11:45, Lou Picciano wrote:
> 'Production' - We've actually been trusting it to one section of our
> production environment; it's been bulletproof. It is, though, tough
> to put any useful quantitative profile on just how hard we're
> pressing it. We do run lots of databases, software builds, etc. -
> rock solid thus far.

I have a big issue with OS 147:

If you use zones and delegate datasets to it, if you reboot the zone
from inside the zone ("init 6"), after the zone reboots the zone will
NOT have the delegated datasets available. They simply "vanished".

To recover the datasets, you must reboot the zone from the global zone.

This is pretty awful if you delegate zones to external parties (the case
I am suffering).

I hope this is solved in OI 148.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] openindiana state

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On 13/12/10 14:12, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> * Edward Martinez  [2010-12-13 05:28]:
>> As a OpenIndiana user I'm curious what is the present state of the
>> OpenIndiana project?
> 
> OpenIndiana b148 will be released real soon now, yesterday we
> discovered some showstoppers which have been fixed. For the next
> release we will focus on replacing Oracle's ONNV with Illumos
> which will likely take a bit of time given our limited manpower.

Hope the bug that fail to re-export ZFS dataset exported to a zone, when
rebooting the zone, is solved!!!.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS improvements.

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On 23/11/10 18:55, Maurilio Longo wrote:
> mauri...@rsync:~$ ls -lR /nas/test/snv_143/ | wc -l
> 175184
> 
> At 2Kb, mean, per file, we have 360Mb, more or less, but here we go from
> 2,73Gb to 3,81 so it is more than 1Gb, or, nearly 8Kb per file!

If the znodes are 512 bytes too, they waste 3584 in a 4KB harddisk. So
adding both you have extra 5632 bytes wasted per file.

Do you use the same blocksize?. Same compression?.

Anyway, I think that ZFS will try to align everything to 4KB, so it is
going to waste space for every on-disk datastructure.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS improvements.

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On 23/11/10 17:07, Maurilio Longo wrote:
> as I said, it seems the same "problem" happens on filesystems (which are 128Kb
>  by default), where you have a lot of small files.
> 
> Maybe if you store dvd images only you don't incur in this wastage of space :)

The problem is evident. If you minimal allocation size is 512 bytes, per
file you waste 256bytes.

If your minimal allocation size is 4096 bytes, per file you waste 2048
bytes.

Mean values, of course.

This waste is per file. If you have a lot of small files...

PS: I guess ZNODES waste a lot of space too when using 4096 bytes sectors.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS improvements.

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On 23/11/10 13:26, Bob Hoekstra wrote:
> The next thing would be encryption. This is critical for those of us who
> take our laptops to see clients, and thus data is a little more susceptible.
> I know this is available with Sol 11 Exp, but not yet with the other
> distributions. Having the boot device encrypted (I believe this is not yet
> possible?) would also be useful.

All of this should be send to illumos, not to OpenIndiana.

Something OpenIndiana could do (integration, not development) would be
to integrate TrueCrypt for full disk encryption, independently of ZFS. I
would kill for it.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS improvements.

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On 23/11/10 03:07, Carlos Varela wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if the following improvements are possible on a future
> openindiana build:

OpenIndiana is a distribution, not a kernel development group. For that
you have to bug Illumos team.

> 1 - Increase the maximum blocksize. Right now is set at 128k but it should
> be possible to increase (I would like to try 1MB as my files are usually
> big).

You don't want that. Read/modify/write overhead would be huge. 128KB is
big enough to provide good random access without wasting too much space
or having a big overhead.

> 2 - The compression stops if the compression is not bigger then 12.5% (?).
> Remove this limitation. If the file compresses, then it should be kept
> compressed.

That is something you can change now in the sourcecode. I think it is
only a single line change.

> 3- Add lzma compression to zfs (compression is slower but higher). Following
> weblink seems to discuss the possibility:

New compressions would be interesting. But I am very worried about ZFS
fragmentation. If Illumos ZFS can not interoperate with Oracle ZFS or
FreeBSD ZFS, we will alienate the FS and the comunity.

I would like to be able to boot from a dataset compressed in GZIP. That
would be a "simple" GRUB change.

Anyway, the right people to request this is Illumos, not OpenIndiana.

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On 17/11/10 17:10, Jesus Cea wrote:
> For your information.
> 
> Thanks!.

Attachment stripping... :).

<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-November/105682.html>

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For your information.

Thanks!.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

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On 03/11/10 23:19, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> Sure, but it's a simple confidence builder, at least for a torrent
> consisting of a single file; it lets people satisfy themselves that
> they're getting the "real" thing, and not a possibly modified
> redistribution hosted by a deceptively similarly named tracker or the like.

Anybody that knows how BitTorrent works would not need this
"confidence", but I agree that MD5 *AND* SHA1 checksums should be
published. They would be needed by the people who download the ISO
images from the central server, and would be used too by the people
using BitTorrent, even if technically they are not needed.

MD5 alone is not safe enough :) :
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Md5#Security>.

I can't wait for SHA-3:
<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sha3>.

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On 03/11/10 21:03, Gary wrote:
> The reason you don't need one is because torrent clients perform their
> own checksum with a Mainline distributed hash table;
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)#Creating_and_publishing_torrents

There is no DHT (Distributed Hash Table) involved. The torrent file has
a list of SHA1 hashes covering the blocks making the file, so if you
retrieve the torrent file from a trustable source (the OpenIndiana web
site), your BT client can use the SHA1 hashes inside to check the
fragments it is downloading from all over Internet. You don't need to
trust other peers.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

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On 02/11/10 22:07, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
> Why not BitTorrent, and let folks spread the load?  There _is_
> a BitTorrent client for Solaris, AFAIK, although it's
> strictly command-line.  As long as you have a separate MD5
> posted for the ISO, so people can verify it, that should be
> good enough, and much cheaper in bandwidth for those that serve
> it.

You don't neet a MD5 check. The original "torrent" file comes from
OpenIndiana, and it is "safe". You are a seed, like any other BT client.

If you send garbage, the client BT will reject your data, because it
doesn't match the torrent file (that comes from OpenIndiana, a secure
source).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Spare bandwidth for mirroring

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On 01/11/10 22:54, Nathan Evans wrote:
> I wouldn't mind hosting binary ISO images.
> Let me know if this is needed and/or wanted.
> Keep in mind I am still on residential DSL.(hopefully will be shortly
> remedied).

You could mirror the ISOs via BitTorrent, as a way to help out, and to
promote legal uses of the protocol.

So far I have seeded quite a few traffic:

USB: 30GB
USB-DD: 28GB
ISO: 59GB

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Help deploying an OpenIndiana buildbot for python?

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Hi. I am a python core developer and recently we hit some
Solaris/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana problems.

Some details:

http://bugs.python.org/issue10142

http://bugs.python.org/issue4111

http://bugs.python.org/issue10201

I have a Solaris 10 machine for testing, but we desperately need a
OpenIndiana buildbot to be able to test OI compatibility. I plan to
install a VM with OI soon, but we need something available 24x7 for
testing builds in a continuous way.

I was wondering if somebody here could help. A zone with GCC installed
would be enough. I volunteer to administer it and I compromise to not
use it for anything else.

Somebody can help us?. This (small) investment could benefice Python and
OpenIndiana too (publicity and tier 1 support in Python).

I write this as an individual person, not as a representative of Python
committers.

http://www.python.org/dev//buildbot/
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Enhancement to IPS (pkg)??

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On 26/10/10 01:43, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:
> OpenSolaris was never capable of doing this so long as it failed to
> provide free security/bug fixes, and this is something we are aiming
> to address in Q1 2010 with our first stable release. Obviously to
> maintain this we'll need a dedicated team of packagers, security
> officers, etc, so we will need to continue to grow our developer
> base.

Q1 2010... You keep traveling in time, Alasdair :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The name: "OpenIndiana" (part II)

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On 08/10/10 21:06, Jason J. W. Williams wrote:
> I'm sure it's been offered already, but has anyone considered "Polaris"?

That was the codename port of OpenSolaris to PowerPC :).

<https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Polaris_%28disambiguation%29>

http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=365282

I always liked the name :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS pool slow as molasses

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On 06/10/10 10:23, Albert Lee wrote:
> The problem here is probably from having dedup enabled. Disabling it
> does not affect the existing data, which has already been
> deduplicated. Reading any of this will incur a deduplication table
> lookup, which can be quite expensive in terms of random seeks (you can
> check with DTrace, see /opt/DTT/disk/seeksize.d). I've also seen poor
> performance on a pool that was previously full.

How can deduplication affect reading performance, beside disordering the
data around the disk?. I don't see the point of accessing the
deduplication table for file reading.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 17:42, Volker A. Brandt wrote:
> seem to have fixed our problem for now.  This is without zones.
> We will soon test the same procedure with zones, first with the
> above variables set to 1, then set to 0.
> 
> If there is interest, I can give feedback here.  Note that we are
> running OSol 134, nothing to do with OI.

I am interested to know if this kills zone networking in OS/OI too.
First you must disable DAD, and later, launch zones.

I am using shared NIC zones, no crossbow stuff, since this is Solaris 10.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 17:27, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 15:38, Jesus Cea  wrote:
>> I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
>> a pain...
> 
> Apparently there was no such problem with OpenSolaris (I'm running
> b127 on that box at the moment). Zones kept working just fine. But
> this is very handy to know before I happen to try that sooner or later
> ? thanks!

It will kill networking in zones if your disable DAD and THEN you boot
the zones. You can try simply disabling DAD and then rebooting the zones.

I am running Solaris 10 U7, it this has been a complete pain with OVH.

The problem exists too in Solaris 10 U8, tested in a VM. Didn't try U9
yet, not sure about the new license :).

Didn't try with OpenSolaris.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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Sorry for the duplicate posts. I am having a flacky connection today. I
beg your pardon.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] IPS on pkg.openindiana.org "Framework stall"

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On 27/09/10 13:21, Emanuele Pucciarelli wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 13:01, Volker A. Brandt  wrote:
>> It is possible that your problem with pkg-1.de is related. Symptoms
>> are that the machine works fine and then suddenly is not reachable
>> for 5-20 minutes, then works fine again.  No error messages, no
>> faults, are visible in the server logs.  So to one user it might seem
>> to be fine, to another user it appears unreachable.
> 
> For the record, I have a machine at OVH; ever since they implemented a
> fancy new ARP watchdog, or something like that, I've had to disable
> DAD (duplicate address detection) in order to avoid being
> disconnected. (IIRC, I set arp_probe_count and arp_defend_interval to
> zero.)

You too?.

I am using Solaris 10, and disabling DAD kill networking in Zones. What
a pain...

I finally wrote a small python script to populate ARP table entries by
hand, instead of going to the network. But I still see APR traffic when
I bring Zones ether interfaces up.

Offtopic, I know... Just venting :).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

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On 23/09/10 22:33, Jesus Cea wrote:
> I guess anybody could reproduce this if they abort abruptly (let's say,
> sudden poweroff, with a "sync" just before) a long download and then try
> to download again.

Some people in the infraestructure mailing list are reporting bad
caching in the CDN, giving away 206 to non-range request. If that is
true, it is VERY bad and a serious bug in the CDN (not in the client!).

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

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On 23/09/10 22:00, Gary wrote:
> Also,
> when running truss as suggested in the other thread, I found a
> reference to /var/pkg/download/incoming-3822/ that doesn't even exist.
> Hrm... I can't seem to find where to file bugs for OpenIndiana but I'd
> be glad to compile all my data in to a report if pointed in the right
> direction. Thanks for everyone's feedback on this.

I am not an openindiana user yet, so I can not test it directly, but
when using truss, be sure you are monitoring the process and its children.

If the connection is done via HTTP (not encrypted), you could "snoop" it
and check that the request is actually requesting a "range". Then we
could be sure that the "partial reply" is correct, so must be a bug in
the download client.

You could use "find" to detect the files modified in the last X hours,
so maybe you can find the cache/partial file this way.

If you are still not able to isolate the file, give me a STEP BY STEP
procedure to reproduce the problem, and I will try inside a virtual
machine. Remember I am a Solaris 10 user, not OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana,
so I need to know every command I must type.

I guess anybody could reproduce this if they abort abruptly (let's say,
sudden poweroff, with a "sync" just before) a long download and then try
to download again.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] unable to install pkg

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On 23/09/10 20:22, Anil wrote:
> Where would this partially downloaded file be? this is a fresh
> install, after zone was booted up, I ran pkg install.
> 
> Should it be here?:
> 
> r...@coke:/# ls /var/pkg/download/*/4be6615d215d522baeeebf0cbee213bce5daa079
> /var/pkg/download/*/4be6615d215d522baeeebf0cbee213bce5daa079: No such
> file or directory
> r...@coke:/#

I am not an openindiana user yet, but your could use "truss" to find the
files the downloader is trying to open/append to.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

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On 23/09/10 19:58, Gary wrote:
> Yes, I'm quite familiar with the 206 HTTP status code -- it's also
> common to see them when using download managers that pipeline multiple
> chunks of a file at the same time then reconstruct them on the client
> side. But this is a stock install of OpenIndiana -- all I've done is
> log in, added a repository, and tried to install... with failures on
> the same three packages and the ability to install several others
> without error. So if it were a problem with my client then one would
> expect it to fail on all packages not just 3 specific packages. For
> example, I can install jdk64 but not jdk and gcc-3 but not gcc-43. Go
> figure.

You have problems with the downloads that failed for any reason (network
timeout, for instance), and when you retry, your downloader is doing a
partial request but not processing the answer correctly. Bug in the
downloader!.

The files you could download were files that didn't fail during their
first download.

Delete the partial downloads and try again. And file a bug!.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] unable to install pkg

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On 23/09/10 06:32, Anil wrote:
> # pkg install runtime/java
>Packages to install:68
>Create boot environment:No
>Services to restart: 4
> DOWNLOAD  PKGS   FILESXFER (MB)
> runtime/java 42/68   1868/328323.2/52.8
> 
> 
> Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file data for
> the requested operation.
> Details follow:
> 
> http protocol error: code: 206 reason: Partial Content
> URL: 
> 'http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/file/1/4be6615d215d522baeeebf0cbee213bce5daa079'.

This seems to be a bug in the downloader. You tried to download the
file, but the download failed, giving you a partial file. You tried
again and the downloader is trying to download from the point it was,
but it is not managing correctly the server reply. 206 means "here you
have the partial request you asked for". It is correct.

The obvious solution, pending a patch, is to delete the partially
downloaded file and try again.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error 206 trying to install Open Office

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On 23/09/10 18:12, Gary wrote:
> Installing from another source doesn't address the issue of the
> packages failing to download from pkg.openindiana.org. I've never seen
> an HTTP 206 response anywhere but in my Apache log files. As of just
> now, jdk, gcc-43. and openoffice are still failing to download. Is
> there another source we can try? I can't install Sun Studio (full or
> Express) without install a JDK first... Please advise.

206 is the "partial response" answer to a partial request.

For instance, if you have half a file and you want to relaunch the
download starting in the point you left, you use a "partial request" to
request a given range of bytes. The reply to this is a "partial
response" from the server.

I guess something in the downloader is doing partial requests without
understanding the "right" answer. Seems a bug in the downloader, not in
the server.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] USB versions explanation?

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On 22/09/10 12:28, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
> One is the stock image as produced by distro-constructor which
> requires a special tool to construct the partition table and
> bootsector for you, i.e. usbcopy on Solaris or the Live USB
> Creator for Windows. The other one is a dd'able image which
> includes both and has been created manually for convenience.
> All of the above will overwrite the contents of your flash media,
> though.

I know the difference. My question is... why to publish TWO different
versions?. What is the point?.

As I said in my first message, the "non bootable" version seems to be
useful to install in a already created partition in the USB, instead of
overwriting your USB (but then you need an independent boot system
already installed). But I would like to know the "official" reason, or
if I am missing something.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] USB versions explanation?

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I am mirroring the ISO/USB BitTorrents, and I am wondering why there are
two USB versions.

One of the versions make a bootable USB copying with "dd".

The other version is only an image of a root partition. No partition
table, no boot sector, no grub. What is the practical use of it?. Maybe
to copy it inside an already partitioned (big) USB?. In that case, would
be nice to have instructions of how to boot it in this configuration. In
the wiki there is a method described, but it overwrite the USB,
basically being equivalent to the "dd" way.

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