Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage serverandvirtual server enviroment

2012-04-23 Thread Mats Taraldsvik

Thanks.

Doesn't the ESXi solution introduce another layer of complexity, though? 
That is, if my proposed solution with OI as the main OS and Storage 
server combined, with the vms on top of OI (and each vm with access to 
the storage server), isn't hard to set up/maintain than the ESXi solution.


I should also note that I need to buy new hw. I have a LSI SAS1068E 
controller (reflashed Intel branded) which does not work with my current 
mainboard (only a single pcie x16 port which is reserved for a graphics 
card).


Regards,
Mats

On 04/20/2012 02:51 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:

Depending on your cpumotherboard, an alternative 'all in one' server is to
run ESXi on it, and virtualize OI.  A key requirement for good performance
is that cpu/motherboard support vt-d (pci pass-through.)  the only trick is
that you need two disk controllers - one that you pass through, and one to
run a single (small  cheap) disk for the local datastore that OI would live
on.  Be aware though that this is not officially supported by VMWare, so you
need to make sure you are using HW that people know works.

-Original Message-
From: Mike La Spina [mailto:mike.lasp...@laspina.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage
serverandvirtual server enviroment

Hi,

You can do all of that and much more. Here is one example.

http://blog.laspina.ca/ubiquitous/provisioning_disaster_recovery_with_zf
s

Regards,
Mike

http://blog.laspina.ca/


-Original Message-
From: Mats Taraldsvik [mailto:mats.taralds...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:31 AM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage server
andvirtual server enviroment

Hi,

I'm currently using EON ZFS as a storage server, but would like to be
able to host a couple of virtual machines as well -- using only a single
server.

Will I, using OI, be able to share a zpool between the virtual machines
(created with KVM or another OI-supported technology, and stored in the
same or a different zpool), either directly,through nfs or iscsi?

Regards,
Mats Taraldsvik

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage serverandvirtual server enviroment

2012-04-23 Thread Mats Taraldsvik

Hi,

On 04/23/2012 02:38 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:

I would argue that running a GUI on top of OI so that you can run VMs under
virtualbox carries the same complexity (if I'm wrong, where is the extra
layer?)


I'm sorry, I was thinking of the (newly) introduced KVM -- I'm not 
really planning on using the OI as a regular desktop, but as a server. I 
agree that with Virtualbox, a better option would be ESXi, I guess, 
because the OI set-up is not simpler.


Is KVM stable/usable for my scenario?


Also, I wasn't aware of your HW limitations - AFAIK you never
stated them.


Well, the LSI card is well supported everywhere, afaik, so it should not 
be a problem (I bought it for use in solaris).



I don't think either solution is better or more complicated -
nor did I say so - just an alternative.


I'm not trying to start an argument -- I really am new to this 
(virtualization+storage on the same server), so I'm exploring my options. :)


Regards,
Mats



-Original Message-
From: Mats Taraldsvik [mailto:mats.taralds...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:12 AM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage
serverandvirtual server enviroment

Thanks.

Doesn't the ESXi solution introduce another layer of complexity, though?
That is, if my proposed solution with OI as the main OS and Storage
server combined, with the vms on top of OI (and each vm with access to
the storage server), isn't hard to set up/maintain than the ESXi solution.

I should also note that I need to buy new hw. I have a LSI SAS1068E
controller (reflashed Intel branded) which does not work with my current
mainboard (only a single pcie x16 port which is reserved for a graphics
card).

Regards,
Mats

On 04/20/2012 02:51 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:

Depending on your cpumotherboard, an alternative 'all in one' server is

to

run ESXi on it, and virtualize OI.  A key requirement for good performance
is that cpu/motherboard support vt-d (pci pass-through.)  the only trick

is

that you need two disk controllers - one that you pass through, and one to
run a single (small   cheap) disk for the local datastore that OI would

live

on.  Be aware though that this is not officially supported by VMWare, so

you

need to make sure you are using HW that people know works.

-Original Message-
From: Mike La Spina [mailto:mike.lasp...@laspina.ca]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:41 AM
To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage
serverandvirtual server enviroment

Hi,

You can do all of that and much more. Here is one example.

http://blog.laspina.ca/ubiquitous/provisioning_disaster_recovery_with_zf
s

Regards,
Mike

http://blog.laspina.ca/


-Original Message-
From: Mats Taraldsvik [mailto:mats.taralds...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:31 AM
To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage server
andvirtual server enviroment

Hi,

I'm currently using EON ZFS as a storage server, but would like to be
able to host a couple of virtual machines as well -- using only a single
server.

Will I, using OI, be able to share a zpool between the virtual machines
(created with KVM or another OI-supported technology, and stored in the
same or a different zpool), either directly,through nfs or iscsi?

Regards,
Mats Taraldsvik

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Using OI as a combined storage server and virtual server enviroment

2012-04-20 Thread Mats Taraldsvik

Hi,

I'm currently using EON ZFS as a storage server, but would like to be 
able to host a couple of virtual machines as well -- using only a single 
server.


Will I, using OI, be able to share a zpool between the virtual machines 
(created with KVM or another OI-supported technology, and stored in the 
same or a different zpool), either directly,through nfs or iscsi?


Regards,
Mats Taraldsvik

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