Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-28 Thread Thomas Wagner
Hi Predrag,

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:40:44AM +0100, Predrag Ze??evi?? - Unix Systems 
Administrator wrote:
>  Hi Thomas,
> 
>  thanks for update, so here is status:
> 
>  a) gcc problem (missing lib) is fixed

sounds good.

>  b) *but* package 'library/perl-5/term-readkey' delivers files to wrong 
>  directory: "/usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22.0" while /hipster installs 
>  everything to "/usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22"

Thanks for highlighting this one. It is solved now. A new package
for Term::ReadKey will be uploaded soon, just in case you want to
default to the sfe package some day.

Btw, the RSS feed of the IPS package server is pretty useful to just "see"
that there is an update or new packages available.


Behind the scenes, there was a change from older perl integrated in the
older OI installs where the path was /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/.
That included the "micro" part of the perl version as it did perl 5.8.4.

That has changed to /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16 with updates to OIH
and then to /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22. That removal of the "micro"
part was missed on the SFE side at the time when oihipster has been
integrated into the macros used in SFE.
We use that macros to have simple spec files but still use the os-distro
specifics by some macros. 

I've used the chance to fix the osdistro detection for OIHipster,
so that was a good trigger.

Regards,
Thomas



 

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-26 Thread Predrag Zečević - Unix Systems Administrator

On 11/23/15 09:11 PM, Thomas Wagner wrote:

Predrag,

yes, I followed your suggestion to add the static library to the
gcc runtime. For Solaris it is quite uncommon to have static libs,
but it looks like gcc want's its very own way to do things.
It revealed that the perl module asked for gcc switch "-fstack-protection"
and that made it require the static libssp_nonshared.a

So you may choose to upgrade to
gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151123T153854Z
and get libssp_nonshared.a

As well I've added for perl-522 the package perl-5/term-readkey (Term::ReadKey)

Regards,
Thomas



Hi Thomas,

thanks for update, so here is status:

a) gcc problem (missing lib) is fixed
b) *but* package 'library/perl-5/term-readkey' delivers files to wrong 
directory: "/usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22.0" while /hipster installs 
everything to "/usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22"


Anyway, now I was able to compile one... Maybe to check other perl 
modules too and try to match /hipster installation...


With best regards.
Predrag Zečević


On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:31:30PM +0100, Predrag Ze??evi?? wrote:

  Hi all,

  I am using packages from following repositories:
  $ pkg publisher -Hn
  openindiana.org  origin   online F
  http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/
  localhostoihorigin   online F
  http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/
  hipster-encumbered  origin   online F
  http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/

  Repository localhostoih serves libreoffice4 (which works fine, but requires
  gcc 4.8 runtime from /localhostoih repository).

  From the other side, /hispter delivers gcc 4.9 - so, now I have following
  situation:
  $ pkg list | grep -E "gcc.*4.(8|9)"
  developer/gcc-49  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0  i--
  sfe/developer/gcc-48 (localhostoih)   4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
  sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime (localhostoih)  4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
  sfe/system/library/gcc-runtime (localhostoih) 4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
  system/library/gcc-4-runtime  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0  i--

  That is not problem *unless* you try to install perl CPAN module (in this
  case, perl Term::ReadKey):

  $ pfexec perl -MCPAN -e shell
  ...
  cpan[1]> install Term::ReadKey
  ...
  /usr/gcc/4.8/bin/gcc -m32  -shared -fstack-protector ReadKey.o  -o
  blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so   \

  ld: fatal: library -lssp_nonshared: not found
  ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to
  blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so
  collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


  ^^ It looks like perl (5.22) is compiled with OI gcc 4.8, which was
  replaced with new one recently. Problem is actually in both OI and SFE:

  *** SFE gcc 4.8 is missing  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a
  files (those ARE present in OI gcc 4.8):
  $ pkg search -r /usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
  INDEX  ACTION VALUE  PACKAGE
  path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
  pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0
  path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
  pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.2.0

  *but* that one (OI gcc 4.8) cannot be installed because of some conflicts:
  $ pfexec pkg uninstall -v sfe/developer/gcc-48
  ...
  $ pfexec pkg install -v pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48
  ...
  pkg install: The following packages all deliver file actions to
  usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libatomic.so.1.0.0:

  
pkg://localhostoih/sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151010T221843Z
  pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151113T125128Z

  These packages may not be installed together. Any non-conflicting set may
  be, or the packages must be corrected before they can be installed.
  ...
  ETC

  So, I want to keep libreoffice4 (because openoffice 4 has problems) and to
  install perl modules...

  I cannot determine which GCC was used for perl (but perl is 32 bit):
  $ perl -v
  This is perl 5, version 22, subversion 0 (v5.22.0) built for
  i86pc-solaris-64int

  $ file /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so: ELF 32-bit
  LSB dynamic lib 80386 Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped

  $ readelf -Wa /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so | grep
  GCC
  [RETURNS nothing], but CPAN looks for gcc 4.8

  Solution is either:

  a) SFE has to fix gcc 4.8 to include
  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a files (and maybe some other)
  b) OI to compile perl with gcc 4.9

  Any thoughts? Or maybe better solution? Maybe I am making mistake somewhere?

  With best regards.

  --
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-23 Thread Thomas Wagner
Predrag,

yes, I followed your suggestion to add the static library to the
gcc runtime. For Solaris it is quite uncommon to have static libs,
but it looks like gcc want's its very own way to do things.
It revealed that the perl module asked for gcc switch "-fstack-protection"
and that made it require the static libssp_nonshared.a

So you may choose to upgrade to 
gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151123T153854Z
and get libssp_nonshared.a

As well I've added for perl-522 the package perl-5/term-readkey (Term::ReadKey)

Regards,
Thomas

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:31:30PM +0100, Predrag Ze??evi?? wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I am using packages from following repositories:
>  $ pkg publisher -Hn
>  openindiana.org  origin   online F 
>  http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/
>  localhostoihorigin   online F 
>  http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/
>  hipster-encumbered  origin   online F 
>  http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/
> 
>  Repository localhostoih serves libreoffice4 (which works fine, but requires 
>  gcc 4.8 runtime from /localhostoih repository).
> 
>  From the other side, /hispter delivers gcc 4.9 - so, now I have following 
>  situation:
>  $ pkg list | grep -E "gcc.*4.(8|9)"
>  developer/gcc-49  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0  i--
>  sfe/developer/gcc-48 (localhostoih)   4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
>  sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime (localhostoih)  4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
>  sfe/system/library/gcc-runtime (localhostoih) 4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8  i--
>  system/library/gcc-4-runtime  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0  i--
> 
>  That is not problem *unless* you try to install perl CPAN module (in this 
>  case, perl Term::ReadKey):
> 
>  $ pfexec perl -MCPAN -e shell
>  ...
>  cpan[1]> install Term::ReadKey
>  ...
>  /usr/gcc/4.8/bin/gcc -m32  -shared -fstack-protector ReadKey.o  -o 
>  blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so   \
> 
>  ld: fatal: library -lssp_nonshared: not found
>  ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to 
>  blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so
>  collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
> 
>  ^^ It looks like perl (5.22) is compiled with OI gcc 4.8, which was 
>  replaced with new one recently. Problem is actually in both OI and SFE:
> 
>  *** SFE gcc 4.8 is missing  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a 
>  files (those ARE present in OI gcc 4.8):
>  $ pkg search -r /usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
>  INDEX  ACTION VALUE  PACKAGE
>  path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
>  pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0
>  path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
>  pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.2.0
> 
>  *but* that one (OI gcc 4.8) cannot be installed because of some conflicts:
>  $ pfexec pkg uninstall -v sfe/developer/gcc-48
>  ...
>  $ pfexec pkg install -v pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48
>  ...
>  pkg install: The following packages all deliver file actions to 
>  usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libatomic.so.1.0.0:
> 
>  
> pkg://localhostoih/sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151010T221843Z
>  pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151113T125128Z
> 
>  These packages may not be installed together. Any non-conflicting set may
>  be, or the packages must be corrected before they can be installed.
>  ...
>  ETC
> 
>  So, I want to keep libreoffice4 (because openoffice 4 has problems) and to 
>  install perl modules...
> 
>  I cannot determine which GCC was used for perl (but perl is 32 bit):
>  $ perl -v
>  This is perl 5, version 22, subversion 0 (v5.22.0) built for 
>  i86pc-solaris-64int
> 
>  $ file /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so: ELF 32-bit 
>  LSB dynamic lib 80386 Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped
> 
>  $ readelf -Wa /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so | grep 
>  GCC
>  [RETURNS nothing], but CPAN looks for gcc 4.8
> 
>  Solution is either:
> 
>  a) SFE has to fix gcc 4.8 to include 
>  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a files (and maybe some other)
>  b) OI to compile perl with gcc 4.9
> 
>  Any thoughts? Or maybe better solution? Maybe I am making mistake somewhere?
> 
>  With best regards.
> 
>  -- 
>  Predrag Zečević, Technical Support Analyst, 2e Systems GmbH
> 
>  Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
>  Mobile:+49  174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic
>  E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com
> 
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-21 Thread Nikola M

On 11/20/15 08:31 PM, Predrag Zečević wrote:

Solution is either:

a) SFE has to fix gcc 4.8 to include 
/usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a files (and maybe some other)

b) OI to compile perl with gcc 4.9

Any thoughts? Or maybe better solution? Maybe I am making mistake 
somewhere? 


Maybe OI Hipster needs to be recompiled with gcc 4.9 (oi-userland) ?
I know illumos still needs gcc 4.4
And sure, 'localhostoih' must be in sync with hipster changes.

I also tried libreoffice4 from SFE/localhostoih and it works (not tested 
it fully and extensively yet)  and I wonder about ApacheOpenOffice too.




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-20 Thread Jim Klimov
20 ноября 2015 г. 20:31:30 CET, "Predrag Zečević" 
 пишет:
>Hi all,
>
>I am using packages from following repositories:
>$ pkg publisher -Hn
>openindiana.org  origin   online F 
>http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/
>localhostoihorigin   online F 
>http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/
>hipster-encumbered  origin   online F 
>http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/
>
>Repository localhostoih serves libreoffice4 (which works fine, but 
>requires gcc 4.8 runtime from /localhostoih repository).
>
> From the other side, /hispter delivers gcc 4.9 - so, now I have 
>following situation:
>$ pkg list | grep -E "gcc.*4.(8|9)"
>developer/gcc-49  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0 
>  i--
>sfe/developer/gcc-48 (localhostoih)   4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
>  i--
>sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime (localhostoih)  4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
>  i--
>sfe/system/library/gcc-runtime (localhostoih) 4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
>  i--
>system/library/gcc-4-runtime  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0 
>  i--
>
>That is not problem *unless* you try to install perl CPAN module (in 
>this case, perl Term::ReadKey):
>
>$ pfexec perl -MCPAN -e shell
>...
>cpan[1]> install Term::ReadKey
>...
>/usr/gcc/4.8/bin/gcc -m32  -shared -fstack-protector ReadKey.o  -o 
>blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so   \
>
>ld: fatal: library -lssp_nonshared: not found
>ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to 
>blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so
>collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>
>
>^^ It looks like perl (5.22) is compiled with OI gcc 4.8, which was
>
>replaced with new one recently. Problem is actually in both OI and SFE:
>
>*** SFE gcc 4.8 is missing  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a
>
>files (those ARE present in OI gcc 4.8):
>$ pkg search -r /usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
>INDEX  ACTION VALUE  PACKAGE
>path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
>pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0
>path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
>pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.2.0
>
>*but* that one (OI gcc 4.8) cannot be installed because of some
>conflicts:
>$ pfexec pkg uninstall -v sfe/developer/gcc-48
>...
>$ pfexec pkg install -v pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48
>...
>pkg install: The following packages all deliver file actions to 
>usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libatomic.so.1.0.0:
>
> 
>pkg://localhostoih/sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151010T221843Z
> 
>pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151113T125128Z
>
>These packages may not be installed together. Any non-conflicting set
>may
>be, or the packages must be corrected before they can be installed.
>...
>ETC
>
>So, I want to keep libreoffice4 (because openoffice 4 has problems) and
>
>to install perl modules...
>
>I cannot determine which GCC was used for perl (but perl is 32 bit):
>$ perl -v
>This is perl 5, version 22, subversion 0 (v5.22.0) built for 
>i86pc-solaris-64int
>
>$ file /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so: 
>ELF 32-bit LSB dynamic lib 80386 Version 1, dynamically linked, not
>stripped
>
>$ readelf -Wa /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so |
>
>grep GCC
>[RETURNS nothing], but CPAN looks for gcc 4.8
>
>Solution is either:
>
>a) SFE has to fix gcc 4.8 to include 
>/usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a files (and maybe some
>other)
>b) OI to compile perl with gcc 4.9
>
>Any thoughts? Or maybe better solution? Maybe I am making mistake
>somewhere?
>
>With best regards.
>
>-- 
>Predrag Zečević, Technical Support Analyst, 2e Systems GmbH
>
>Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
>Mobile:+49  174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic
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Just a shot in the sky: 
* make a local zone with lofs-mounted FS trees you need (e.g. /export/home from 
GZ) and whatever is needed for libreoffic3
* from the GZ ise 'xhost + localzonename' and ssh/zlogin into this zone and run 
the libreoffice with DISPLAY pointing to the GZ

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] /hipster-2015 and /localhostoih gcc mess up (second time)

2015-11-20 Thread Predrag Zečević

Hi all,

I am using packages from following repositories:
$ pkg publisher -Hn
openindiana.org  origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-2015/
localhostoihorigin   online F 
http://sfe.opencsw.org/localhostoih/
hipster-encumbered  origin   online F 
http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster-encumbered/


Repository localhostoih serves libreoffice4 (which works fine, but 
requires gcc 4.8 runtime from /localhostoih repository).


From the other side, /hispter delivers gcc 4.9 - so, now I have 
following situation:

$ pkg list | grep -E "gcc.*4.(8|9)"
developer/gcc-49  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0 
 i--
sfe/developer/gcc-48 (localhostoih)   4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
 i--
sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime (localhostoih)  4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
 i--
sfe/system/library/gcc-runtime (localhostoih) 4.8.5-0.0.151.1.8 
 i--
system/library/gcc-4-runtime  4.9.3-2015.0.2.0 
 i--


That is not problem *unless* you try to install perl CPAN module (in 
this case, perl Term::ReadKey):


$ pfexec perl -MCPAN -e shell
...
cpan[1]> install Term::ReadKey
...
/usr/gcc/4.8/bin/gcc -m32  -shared -fstack-protector ReadKey.o  -o 
blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so   \


ld: fatal: library -lssp_nonshared: not found
ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to 
blib/arch/auto/Term/ReadKey/ReadKey.so

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


^^ It looks like perl (5.22) is compiled with OI gcc 4.8, which was 
replaced with new one recently. Problem is actually in both OI and SFE:


*** SFE gcc 4.8 is missing  /usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a 
files (those ARE present in OI gcc 4.8):

$ pkg search -r /usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a
INDEX  ACTION VALUE  PACKAGE
path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.1.0
path   file   usr/gcc/4.8/lib/libssp_nonshared.a 
pkg:/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5-2015.0.2.0


*but* that one (OI gcc 4.8) cannot be installed because of some conflicts:
$ pfexec pkg uninstall -v sfe/developer/gcc-48
...
$ pfexec pkg install -v pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48
...
pkg install: The following packages all deliver file actions to 
usr/gcc/4.8/lib/amd64/libatomic.so.1.0.0:



pkg://localhostoih/sfe/system/library/gcc-48-runtime@4.8.5,5.11-0.0.151.1.8:20151010T221843Z

pkg://openindiana.org/developer/gcc-48@4.8.5,5.11-2015.0.2.0:20151113T125128Z

These packages may not be installed together. Any non-conflicting set may
be, or the packages must be corrected before they can be installed.
...
ETC

So, I want to keep libreoffice4 (because openoffice 4 has problems) and 
to install perl modules...


I cannot determine which GCC was used for perl (but perl is 32 bit):
$ perl -v
This is perl 5, version 22, subversion 0 (v5.22.0) built for 
i86pc-solaris-64int


$ file /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so: 
ELF 32-bit LSB dynamic lib 80386 Version 1, dynamically linked, not stripped


$ readelf -Wa /usr/perl5/5.22/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/CORE/libperl.so | 
grep GCC

[RETURNS nothing], but CPAN looks for gcc 4.8

Solution is either:

a) SFE has to fix gcc 4.8 to include 
/usr/gcc/4.8/lib{/amd64}/libssp_nonshared.a files (and maybe some other)

b) OI to compile perl with gcc 4.9

Any thoughts? Or maybe better solution? Maybe I am making mistake somewhere?

With best regards.

--
Predrag Zečević, Technical Support Analyst, 2e Systems GmbH

Telephone: +49 6196 9505 815, Facsimile: +49 6196 9505 894
Mobile:+49  174 3109 288, Skype: predrag.zecevic
E-mail:predrag.zece...@2e-systems.com

Headquarter:  2e Systems GmbH, Königsteiner Str. 87,
  65812 Bad Soden am Taunus, Germany
Company registration: Amtsgericht Königstein (Germany), HRB 7303
Managing director:Phil Douglas

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