Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Thanks to everyone so far with the chipset recommendations. I've done a lot of reading and the best value I can find so far is this... http://www.scan.co.uk/products/highpoint-rocketraid-640-%28rr640%29-4-channel- internal-pci-e-20-x4-to-sata-6gb-s-raid-controller-card#ProductFeatures - for probably £100 delivered. For the price, I'm thinking PCI-e x4 - four internal 6Gb/s SATA 3 connectors, connect two of them to the outside world with the e-sata connector plates that a few people have suggested. That still leaves me with some more connectors should I later decide to up the PSU power and add some more drives. Unless anyone has a better idea? Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Michelle, I would recommend a Sil 3132 or 3124 based card. Works like a charm for me. It even supports a Sil based 1 -> 5 port multiplier. HTH Attila Michelle Knight wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've been driving myself crazy looking at SATA cards for the last few days. > > What I need is the following... > > 1) Compatable with OI (I'm really tripping myself up here > 2) Lowest price possible > 3) PCI-E > 4) Ports needed - 2 E-SATA Version 3. > > Any recommendations please? > > Many thanks, > > Michelle. > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
The Areca cards are probably quite nice. They provide their own drivers for their cards and they support Solaris. It looks like their cards are based on Intel's IOP chipsets but it isn't revealed explicitly on their website. The only objection I have against their cards is the price. On for example Newegg, an Areca 1200 card goes for $160 and it gives you two SATA ports. An intel SASUC8I goes for $155 on Newegg providing 8 ports. I also want to add to clarify; There was someone on this mailing lists who mentioned JBOD which is _not_ what you want to use if you intend to run ZFS on it. The preferred mode is IT mode which on LSI's controllers is done by flashing them with IT firmware. IT means Initiator-Target. The disks should be run either as RAID0 with one disk per stripe or as "Single Disk", (different vendors have different names for the same thing), not JBOD which is a different thing. On 2011-01-21 11:36, trevor robinson wrote: If it's helpful we use (or did anyway, since an advantage of ZFS is avoiding using proprietary RAID cards !) Areca, we have a test machine running OI_148 using an Areca ARC1200 (PCIe x1). Trev --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robin Axelsson wrote: From: Robin Axelsson Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card? To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 11:50 PM When it comes to Marvells chips it some of them work on OSOL/OI and some of them don't. Look into the OpenSolaris HCL, if it signed/certified/native than it's fine but if it merely says "reported to work" I would be careful about it. I would not recommend anyone using JMicron controller chips as I have had tons of problems with them on several different motherboards. There are drivers for them in OSOL/OI but they are nothing but trouble. On 2011-01-20 23:09, Michelle Knight wrote: Hi Willard, Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on . The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset. Do you think I could run in to trouble? Michelle. On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote: Here are some references to good cards: From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS& Linux MD RAID http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 Some discussion that followed the blog posting http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss . ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
If it's helpful we use (or did anyway, since an advantage of ZFS is avoiding using proprietary RAID cards !) Areca, we have a test machine running OI_148 using an Areca ARC1200 (PCIe x1). Trev --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Robin Axelsson wrote: From: Robin Axelsson Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card? To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 11:50 PM When it comes to Marvells chips it some of them work on OSOL/OI and some of them don't. Look into the OpenSolaris HCL, if it signed/certified/native than it's fine but if it merely says "reported to work" I would be careful about it. I would not recommend anyone using JMicron controller chips as I have had tons of problems with them on several different motherboards. There are drivers for them in OSOL/OI but they are nothing but trouble. On 2011-01-20 23:09, Michelle Knight wrote: > Hi Willard, > > Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that > the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on . > > The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset. > > Do you think I could run in to trouble? > > Michelle. > > On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote: >> Here are some references to good cards: >> >> From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS& Linux MD RAID >> http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 >> >> Some discussion that followed the blog posting >> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925 >> >> ___ >> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list >> OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
When it comes to Marvells chips it some of them work on OSOL/OI and some of them don't. Look into the OpenSolaris HCL, if it signed/certified/native than it's fine but if it merely says "reported to work" I would be careful about it. I would not recommend anyone using JMicron controller chips as I have had tons of problems with them on several different motherboards. There are drivers for them in OSOL/OI but they are nothing but trouble. On 2011-01-20 23:09, Michelle Knight wrote: Hi Willard, Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on . The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset. Do you think I could run in to trouble? Michelle. On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote: Here are some references to good cards: From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS& Linux MD RAID http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 Some discussion that followed the blog posting http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Unfortunately I don't know the UK market but I'm not impressed by the prices scan.co.uk have on their HBA cards after looking into their page. You could also look at the" esata-4-8-port..." section as there are a few more viable alternatives. From this list an LSI based 8-port card is cheaper than a 4-port card. If I were to buy from this seller I would go for the SASUC8I card (search it on the website). There must be some kind of a price comparison website where you live, no? Since you want to go for internal cards here's a list of them you can search for: LSI SAS 3041E-R LSI SAS 3081E-R LSI-SAS 9211-4i LSI-SAS 9211-8i LSI-SAS 9201-16i Cisco LSI SAS 30813ER SAS SATA RAID Cisco LSI 1064E SAS Dell PERC 5i/6i Intel SASUC8I Intel SASMF8I Intel SASWT4I Fujitsu-Siemens S26361-F3257-L8 Fujitsu-Siemens S26361-F3257-L4 Also keep in mind that when getting a SAS card you will need a SAS-> SATA fan out cable, (unless there are other for you relevant options for connecting SATA drives to SAS HBA which I'm not aware of). It looks like this: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3ware-cbl-sff8087ocf-10m-sff-8087-to-discrete-forward-breakout-cable or this http://www.scan.co.uk/products/highpoint-int-ms-1m4s-internal-mini-sas-to-sata-cable On some HBAs these cables are included but not all of them, especially the cheaper ones. If you want to use a standard issue E-SATA bracket you are also likely to need a male -> female SATA adapter to connect it with the fan out cable. On 2011-01-20 22:08, Michelle Knight wrote: Thanks Greg, I had written off the previous suggestions of using e-sata interfaces, because the motherboard sata ports are already fully used. I hadn't thought of using such interfaces on a PCI-E card. That's actually a great idea. Michelle. I've managed to get a couple of these... http://www.scan.co.uk/products/akasa-esata-45-ex-internal-sata-to-external- esata-pci-backplate-adaptor Hopefully they'll do the job. All I need now is a card. The problem with many that I'm finding listed, don't actually list what chipset they are based on, so I'm fishing in the dark. Anything in this list sound familiar? http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-Hardware/All/HDD-Controllers/SATA-SAS- eSATA-2-4-Port Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
I've dug up this one. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/highpoint-rocketraid-640-%28rr640%29-4-channel- internal-pci-e-20-x4-to-sata-6gb-s-raid-controller-card#ProductFeatures Seems to be on the same Marvell 88SE9128 chipset from what I can see. Anyone any opinions on it please? More tech info here - http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-22080405- HighPoint_Rocket_RAID_640_Controller_Marvell_88SE9128_SATA_6Gb_s_RAID_Controller ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Hi Willard, Thank you for those links. I've had a look through and it is interesting that the cheaper cards are Marvell, though based on . The card I've got problems with is based on the Marvell 9128 chipset. Do you think I could run in to trouble? Michelle. On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:36:50 Willard Korfhage wrote: > Here are some references to good cards: > > From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS & Linux MD RAID > http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 > > Some discussion that followed the blog posting > http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925 > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Here are some references to good cards: From 16 to 2 ports: Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS & Linux MD RAID http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 Some discussion that followed the blog posting http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=480925 ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
On Thursday 20 January 2011 21:14:58 Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > If you have a 4x PCI-Express slot available, I highly recommend the 3ware > 9650. > Ouch. That's a lot of money. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > If you have a 4x PCI-Express slot available, I highly recommend the 3ware > 9650. > Did support for that card get added to the OI kernel? It's a good card, but last I saw it was only supported by the proprietary 3ware driver, and OpenSolaris support with their drivers has been pretty spotty. -- David Brodbeck System Administrator, Linguistics University of Washington ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
If you have a 4x PCI-Express slot available, I highly recommend the 3ware 9650. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 16:08, Michelle Knight wrote: >> Thanks Greg, >> >> I had written off the previous suggestions of using e-sata interfaces, >> because the motherboard sata ports are already fully used. >> >> I hadn't thought of using such interfaces on a PCI-E card. That's actually a >> great idea. >> >> Michelle. > > I've managed to get a couple of these... > http://www.scan.co.uk/products/akasa-esata-45-ex-internal-sata-to-external- > esata-pci-backplate-adaptor > > Hopefully they'll do the job. > > All I need now is a card. The problem with many that I'm finding listed, don't > actually list what chipset they are based on, so I'm fishing in the dark. > > Anything in this list sound familiar? > > http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-Hardware/All/HDD-Controllers/SATA-SAS- > eSATA-2-4-Port > > Michelle. > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Falls Church, Virginia USA ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
> Thanks Greg, > > I had written off the previous suggestions of using e-sata interfaces, > because the motherboard sata ports are already fully used. > > I hadn't thought of using such interfaces on a PCI-E card. That's actually a > great idea. > > Michelle. I've managed to get a couple of these... http://www.scan.co.uk/products/akasa-esata-45-ex-internal-sata-to-external- esata-pci-backplate-adaptor Hopefully they'll do the job. All I need now is a card. The problem with many that I'm finding listed, don't actually list what chipset they are based on, so I'm fishing in the dark. Anything in this list sound familiar? http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-Hardware/All/HDD-Controllers/SATA-SAS- eSATA-2-4-Port Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
I should have also mentioned just using an adapter to provide esata interfaces from internal sata ports. Either way you are not limited to cards that already have esata ports built in. Greg Sent from my Droid Incredible. - Reply message - From: "Gregory Youngblood" Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:44 am Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card? To: "Michelle Knight" , "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Depending on the server you may be better to look for low priced SAS cards with sata adapters and an adapter for internal sata to e-sata. It seems to me that there are more supported pcie sas cards than sata. No data to back that up, just what I seem to notice. Sent from my Droid Incredible. - Reply message - From: "Michelle Knight" Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:28 am Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card? To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Hi Folks, I've been driving myself crazy looking at SATA cards for the last few days. What I need is the following... 1) Compatable with OI (I'm really tripping myself up here 2) Lowest price possible 3) PCI-E 4) Ports needed - 2 E-SATA Version 3. Any recommendations please? Many thanks, Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Depending on the server you may be better to look for low priced SAS cards with sata adapters and an adapter for internal sata to e-sata. It seems to me that there are more supported pcie sas cards than sata. No data to back that up, just what I seem to notice. Sent from my Droid Incredible. - Reply message - From: "Michelle Knight" Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 10:28 am Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card? To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Hi Folks, I've been driving myself crazy looking at SATA cards for the last few days. What I need is the following... 1) Compatable with OI (I'm really tripping myself up here 2) Lowest price possible 3) PCI-E 4) Ports needed - 2 E-SATA Version 3. Any recommendations please? Many thanks, Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Can anyone recommend an external SATA card?
Hi Folks, I've been driving myself crazy looking at SATA cards for the last few days. What I need is the following... 1) Compatable with OI (I'm really tripping myself up here 2) Lowest price possible 3) PCI-E 4) Ports needed - 2 E-SATA Version 3. Any recommendations please? Many thanks, Michelle. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
