Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Harry Putnam]

Christopher Chan  writes:

> On Thursday, March 17, 2011 06:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:
>>
>>> Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
>>> wikepedia article
>>
>> You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
>> know there are health risks  right?
>>
>
> What risks? Bulging arteries? Seizures? What?
>
> Conversely, there is the risk of being put on the bitbucket list...

Seeking to avoid the bitbucket.., there'll be no more quibbling from me.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Christopher Chan]

On Thursday, March 17, 2011 06:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:


Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
wikepedia article


You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
know there are health risks  right?



What risks? Bulging arteries? Seizures? What?

Conversely, there is the risk of being put on the bitbucket list...

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Harry Putnam]

Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:

> Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
> wikepedia article

You might want to ease up a bit, on that very very part you do
know there are health risks  right?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Harry Putnam]

"Kevin J. Woolley"  writes:

>> This list always so friendly and encouraging...
>> :D
>
> Really?  I think it does pretty darn well.  I won't try to convince you, 
> though.

As OP, I agree.  I also agree that I should have kept my yap shut when
the sniper came in.  All input was quite useful.

Thank you all again


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Apostolos Syropoulos]

> >> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem 
> to
> >> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
> >> by full name).
> >  
> > The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
> > before posting. 
> 
> Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says
> something like this.


Yes I am very very serious! A serious person would had first read the
wikepedia article


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos

and provided he still had questions he would post a question about

Illumini! You posted a question as if the readers of this  forum are 

your personal tutors! No this forum, and many other forums like this
one, are places to exchange ideas, to share expreriences, to ask 

serious questions and not to ask stupid questions! Enough!


A.S.

 
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Xanthi, Greece



  

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Kevin J. Woolley]

On 15 March 2011 15:41, Gabriel de la Cruz  wrote:

> Sea turtles, newly hatched on a beach, will automatically move toward
> the ocean. A joey climbs into its mother's pouch upon being born.
> Honeybees communicate by dance the direction of a food source without
> formal instruction. And every mammal understands the difference
> between illumos and Openindiana... who doesn't?

Would you like another straw man?

> "Those annoying tourists!, always asking the most obvious stuff!,
> can't they do anything on their own?"

Not at all what I said.  Indeed, I gave advice that I often use
myself.  Is the purpose of a mailing list for some random section of
the populace to repeat things ad nauseum, or could there be another
reason for its existence?

> This list always so friendly and encouraging...
> :D

Really?  I think it does pretty darn well.  I won't try to convince you, though.

kjw

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Gabriel de la Cruz]

Sea turtles, newly hatched on a beach, will automatically move toward
the ocean. A joey climbs into its mother's pouch upon being born.
Honeybees communicate by dance the direction of a food source without
formal instruction. And every mammal understands the difference
between illumos and Openindiana... who doesn't?
"Those annoying tourists!, always asking the most obvious stuff!,
can't they do anything on their own?"

This list always so friendly and encouraging...
:D


On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Kevin J. Woolley  wrote:
> On 15 March 2011 14:03, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
>> Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:
>>> The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
>>> before posting.
>>
>> Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says
>> something like this.
>
> Depends.  If you're just looking to argue, you can keep on that topic.
>  I don't recommend it.
>
>> Just for the record, you can google till the cows come home and unless
>> you already know quite a lot about this subject, you WILL BE confused.
>
> You can read the archives of the mailing list which are conveniently
> accessible at the URL at the bottom of every post to the list.  That
> may help clarify things, especially those which have already been
> discussed at great length on the list.
>
>> That said,
>>
>> Thank you! to all posters, your input has made things several orders of
>> magnitude clearer.
>
> Excellent.
>
> kjw
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Kevin J. Woolley]

On 15 March 2011 14:03, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:
>> The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
>> before posting.
>
> Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says
> something like this.

Depends.  If you're just looking to argue, you can keep on that topic.
 I don't recommend it.

> Just for the record, you can google till the cows come home and unless
> you already know quite a lot about this subject, you WILL BE confused.

You can read the archives of the mailing list which are conveniently
accessible at the URL at the bottom of every post to the list.  That
may help clarify things, especially those which have already been
discussed at great length on the list.

> That said,
>
> Thank you! to all posters, your input has made things several orders of
> magnitude clearer.

Excellent.

kjw

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Harry Putnam]

Apostolos Syropoulos  writes:

>> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
>> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
>> by full name).
>  
> The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
> before posting. 

Is this guy serious or just one of those guys that always says
something like this.

Just for the record, you can google till the cows come home and unless
you already know quite a lot about this subject, you WILL BE confused.

That said,

Thank you! to all posters, your input has made things several orders of
magnitude clearer.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[ken mays]

I answered this earlier for someone else so to make it even simpler
for discussion:

1. Illumos - OS/Net kernel & network core environment improvements and patching

2. OpenIndiana - build consolidator and distribution provider

~ Ken Mays



--- On Sun, 2/27/11, Colin Ellis  wrote:

> From: Colin Ellis 
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi
> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
> Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011, 8:17 AM
> Hi Harry,
> 
> I am not surprised you are confused.  The openindiana
> website is still being
> worked on and the question you asked is still difficult to
> find.
> 
> I hope this answers your question:
> 
> OpenIndiana provides a complete, ready-to-use operating
> system
> (distribution<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_distribution>)
> similar to the OpenSolaris distribution. The Illumos
> Project develops the
> core software for the operating system such as the
> kernel<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29>.
> As Illumos is not a distribution, OpenIndiana will combine
> the Illumos core
> with additional software that Oracle still develops in the
> open. This is
> analogous to how Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu all use the
> Linux kernel and
> software from the GNU Project, but combine them with
> additional software to
> produce a complete system.
> 
> Furthermore, OpenIndiana will be a member of the Illumos
> Foundation, a
> not-for profit legal entity within the United States.
> 
> You can find more help in our FAQ in the wiki at:
> http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Frequently+Asked+Questions/
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Colin Ellis
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Harry Putnam 
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm getting a little confused about what OI is trying
> to do exactly.
> >
> > I changed to oi with Opensolaris looked untenable due
> to oracle
> > maneuvers, expecting to see a basic continuation of
> what was happing
> > from b 101 up to 134.
> >
> > I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the
> like that seem to
> > indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure
> what that is called
> > by full name).
> >
> > If that is the case what, in general,  will that
> mean?  I noticed my
> > subscription to illuminos-discuss has produced 6 msgs
> since the end of Jan.
> >
> > So can someone fill me in, just in general, what the
> plan is over
> > the next yr or so?
> >
> >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Colin Ellis]

Hi Harry,

I am not surprised you are confused.  The openindiana website is still being
worked on and the question you asked is still difficult to find.

I hope this answers your question:

OpenIndiana provides a complete, ready-to-use operating system
(distribution)
similar to the OpenSolaris distribution. The Illumos Project develops the
core software for the operating system such as the
kernel.
As Illumos is not a distribution, OpenIndiana will combine the Illumos core
with additional software that Oracle still develops in the open. This is
analogous to how Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu all use the Linux kernel and
software from the GNU Project, but combine them with additional software to
produce a complete system.

Furthermore, OpenIndiana will be a member of the Illumos Foundation, a
not-for profit legal entity within the United States.

You can find more help in our FAQ in the wiki at:
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Frequently+Asked+Questions/

Best Regards,

Colin Ellis
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> I'm getting a little confused about what OI is trying to do exactly.
>
> I changed to oi with Opensolaris looked untenable due to oracle
> maneuvers, expecting to see a basic continuation of what was happing
> from b 101 up to 134.
>
> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
> by full name).
>
> If that is the case what, in general,  will that mean?  I noticed my
> subscription to illuminos-discuss has produced 6 msgs since the end of Jan.
>
> So can someone fill me in, just in general, what the plan is over
> the next yr or so?
>
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Hans J. Albertsson]

A nicer way is to point the miscreant to the OI and Illomos web pages!
Even so, that particular question isn't very well answered at that site.

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:43:06 -0800 (PST)

From: Apostolos Syropoulos 
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I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
by full name).

 The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
before posting.
A.S.


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Xanthi, Greece

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Apostolos Syropoulos]

> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
> by full name).
 
The least I would expect from people to do is a basic google search
before posting. 

A.S.


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Xanthi, Greece

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Ken Gunderson]

On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 19:35 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
> I'm getting a little confused about what OI is trying to do exactly.
> 
> I changed to oi with Opensolaris looked untenable due to oracle
> maneuvers, expecting to see a basic continuation of what was happing
> from b 101 up to 134.
> 
> I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
> indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
> by full name).
> 
> If that is the case what, in general,  will that mean?  I noticed my
> subscription to illuminos-discuss has produced 6 msgs since the end of Jan.
> 
> So can someone fill me in, just in general, what the plan is over
> the next yr or so?

OpenSolaris, despite it's name, to the contrary still contained non free
bits that Sun _still_ hadn't gotten around to replacing when Oracle took
over and nuked OpenSolaris.  Illumos is more akin to the Linux kernel -
an open core around which "distributions" may be constructed.  OI aims
to be one such distribution but hasn't quite gotten there yet because
Illumos hasn't quite gotten there yet...  But they're getting closer.
Hence the discussion.  Recently a developer spun an IllumsOS based
OpenIndiana Live Cd, dubbed oi-dev-148a.  Sans the "as" it's still Sun
ON based .

Clear as mud?

-- 
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Explain the Goal of oi

[Harry Putnam]

I'm getting a little confused about what OI is trying to do exactly.

I changed to oi with Opensolaris looked untenable due to oracle
maneuvers, expecting to see a basic continuation of what was happing
from b 101 up to 134.

I've been seeing little snippets of subjects and the like that seem to
indicate that oi is merging with Illumini (no sure what that is called
by full name).

If that is the case what, in general,  will that mean?  I noticed my
subscription to illuminos-discuss has produced 6 msgs since the end of Jan.

So can someone fill me in, just in general, what the plan is over
the next yr or so?


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