Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Hi David With such an old release version many steps to upgrade are required and you are more likely to sucess installing a new System from ISO/USB to the existing rpool which will create an independant boot environment with newest software. It wouold also alow you to test the newest release on the Hardware first without requiring any changes to your setup. The Option to install into an existing pool is part of the Installer. -Till On 07.06.23 11:52, david allan finch wrote: Hi All, Might be interesting to someone out there ;) I still have this little box, use it as a file server and still using oi_151a9. I have progressively been replacing the HDD with bigger and bigger drives and all still works well. I keep think of replacing the hardware but never yet really got around to it. I think since the original 2Tb HHDs I have increase it to 6Tb, 10Tb, then 14Tb in stages. I just replace my 3 disk raid5 pool, which used to have 3x14Tb with some new 3x20Tb Tosh disks. Last time it took 10hr each to re-silver the replaced disks from 10Tb to 14Tb, this time it took 33hr for each disk (ie 100hr to do all three over 5 days). I have tried to update the OS before and always it fails at some point, so in the end just stayed with what worked. On 2/12/15 10:36, david allan finch wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to do for an upgrade? I have a HP Proliant Microserver N54L with 4x 2Tb drives which I have been happy with for more than a year but I have started to run out of disk space in my zfs pool. I have been pruning the snapshots and rubbish but filling it up now is inevitable. What I would really like to do is to swap the disks out for larger one but I doubt that this is really practical as to make this work you need spare disk slots which I don't have. Another option might be to add a SATA card and add more disk that way. But I have no idea of where to start with this, and even if this microserver can do that. And a third is just to get a new server. I can't see any which have more than 4 drive bays do these exist (for reasonable money) or do you need to make your own? If so anyone got a recommendation? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Hi All, Might be interesting to someone out there ;) I still have this little box, use it as a file server and still using oi_151a9. I have progressively been replacing the HDD with bigger and bigger drives and all still works well. I keep think of replacing the hardware but never yet really got around to it. I think since the original 2Tb HHDs I have increase it to 6Tb, 10Tb, then 14Tb in stages. I just replace my 3 disk raid5 pool, which used to have 3x14Tb with some new 3x20Tb Tosh disks. Last time it took 10hr each to re-silver the replaced disks from 10Tb to 14Tb, this time it took 33hr for each disk (ie 100hr to do all three over 5 days). I have tried to update the OS before and always it fails at some point, so in the end just stayed with what worked. On 2/12/15 10:36, david allan finch wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to do for an upgrade? I have a HP Proliant Microserver N54L with 4x 2Tb drives which I have been happy with for more than a year but I have started to run out of disk space in my zfs pool. I have been pruning the snapshots and rubbish but filling it up now is inevitable. What I would really like to do is to swap the disks out for larger one but I doubt that this is really practical as to make this work you need spare disk slots which I don't have. Another option might be to add a SATA card and add more disk that way. But I have no idea of where to start with this, and even if this microserver can do that. And a third is just to get a new server. I can't see any which have more than 4 drive bays do these exist (for reasonable money) or do you need to make your own? If so anyone got a recommendation? ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
I so wish yahoo didn't force top posting. But it won't quote. And the disjoint line handling among systems makes quoting by hand pointless. Quite sad really how much functionality has been "improved" out of existence. In yahoo groups there are many lines of trailing fancy font garbage one has to trim, so it gets worse. Reg On Fri, 2/27/15, Nikola M wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Friday, February 27, 2015, 2:43 AM On 02/16/15 06:43 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > The only way to find something on the wiki is to ask on the mailing list. Hi, This is also one of your messages that ended u top-posted. Just to mention, one should reply below quotes on public mailing list. And to stay inside topic :) , OI Wiki has "search" option that works. I also added mentioning of gmane.org to the Wiki as well as using site: option in search engines. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
On 02/16/15 06:43 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: The only way to find something on the wiki is to ask on the mailing list. Hi, This is also one of your messages that ended u top-posted. Just to mention, one should reply below quotes on public mailing list. And to stay inside topic :) , OI Wiki has "search" option that works. I also added mentioning of gmane.org to the Wiki as well as using site: option in search engines. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
ROFL The only way to find something on the wiki is to ask on the mailing list. On Mon, 2/16/15, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, February 16, 2015, 10:59 AM John D Groenveld writes: > >BTW I am surprised that the OI mailing list is not archived > >anywhere. > > http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=21725.57010.781458.519895%40glaurung.bb%2dc.de> Perfect, thanks John! Is this in the OI wiki somewhere? If so I could not find it. :-( Thanks -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANY Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
This is generally about the USB problem, but I had problems w/ 512 emulation both with the Toshiba and with an HGST RMA that replaced a 512 drive w/ a 4k drive. The HGST is in my S10_u8 box. I was able to work around S10 by formatting the 3 TB HGST on the NL40. FWIW "format -e" will kernel panic S10_u8 w/ the 4k sector HGST disk installed. A few more breadcrumbs: After I built out the N40L (4x2TB) I tried to use the Toshiba but had problems w/ the zpool alignment. which are recorded in /var/adm/messages. However, somewhere along the line that stopped. Unfortunately, I don't find any work files from when I was doing this. This was as much as 2 years ago, so I don't remember much besides the pain. There are entries in sd.conf for the Toshiba which specifies it as 4k. On this system I've got this: sd-config-list = "*Toshiba*" ,"physical-block-size:4096"; but on the N40L this: sd-config-list = "Toshiba External USB 3.0" ,"physical-block-size:4096"; Now that I think about it, I believe that what I found was that the string parser for sd.conf was badly written and did not behave as expected or suggested by the code comments. I know that I read through the code and discussed w/ Klimov at some length. If Linux did something to the Toshiba to make it behave, it was probably Fedora 13, but I can't be sure. I've got a system w/ a drive socket and a couple dozen system disks (including Plan 9 ;-) in caddies. I've also got an Ubuntu 10.4 LTS disk I might have used. I'm quite cavalier about stomping on distros I don't like/use, so almost anything is possible. However, I suspect Linux had nothing to do with solving the problem. I only mention it because of the propensity for it to follow the Microsoft model of "helping" you w/o asking permission. The N40L has been shutdown for a long time, so I'm running scrubs. To summarize: Read the advanced format disk page and especially George Wilson's discussion about 512e and 4k drives and add an appropriate sd.conf entry. I *think* that's probably what was needed to make it work. Be aware that the string match code for processing sd.conf is pretty flaky and does not do what you'd expect. The blank partition table reported by format(1m) troubles me. There may be some other fiddle needed. Klimov and I tried to document this stuff, but the pages look pretty different from the last time I looked at them closely and this is all I can remember at the moment. Have Fun! Reg ---------------- On Mon, 2/16/15, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Reginald Beardsley" , "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Cc: "Andrew Gabriel" Date: Monday, February 16, 2015, 10:15 AM Reg: > Sadly, I think it's more complicated, but that might be it. I had > lots of fun w/ the sector size reporting. [...] Your sad story is about connecting via USB, right? The OP (Harry) wanted to replace internal disks with bigger ones. I think your problems would not apply to his use case. Correct? FWIW we are using 4x 4TB 4k sector disks in an ashift=12 pool in an N54L without any problems. The boot disk is a 128GB SSD, so well below the 2GB boundary. It's OmniOS but that should not make any difference whatsoever. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANY Email: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
John D Groenveld writes: > >BTW I am surprised that the OI mailing list is not archived > >anywhere. > > http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=21725.57010.781458.519895%40glaurung.bb%2dc.de> Perfect, thanks John! Is this in the OI wiki somewhere? If so I could not find it. :-( Thanks -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
In message <21730.6951.794295.930...@glaurung.bb-c.de>, Volker A. Brandt writes : >BTW I am surprised that the OI mailing list is not archived anywhere. http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=21725.57010.781458.519895%40glaurung.bb%2dc.de> John groenv...@acm.org ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Volker A. Brandt writes: > The OP (Harry) Sorry, mixed up threads. The OP was David I believe. BTW I am surprised that the OI mailing list is not archived anywhere. The Wiki points to google groups but the latter doesn't know about OpenIndiana-discuss :-( Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Reg: > Sadly, I think it's more complicated, but that might be it. I had > lots of fun w/ the sector size reporting. [...] Your sad story is about connecting via USB, right? The OP (Harry) wanted to replace internal disks with bigger ones. I think your problems would not apply to his use case. Correct? FWIW we are using 4x 4TB 4k sector disks in an ashift=12 pool in an N54L without any problems. The boot disk is a 128GB SSD, so well below the 2GB boundary. It's OmniOS but that should not make any difference whatsoever. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Sadly, I think it's more complicated, but that might be it. I had lots of fun w/ the sector size reporting. I went around and around w/ the Toshiba for days. This was in conjunction w/ getting an RMA from HGST which replaced a 512 sector drive w/ a 4k sector drive. I *did* get that to work w/ Sol 10_u8 , but it was a huge effort. I recall I fiddled w/ sd.conf a lot trying to get the Toshiba pool to align properly. I was on the verge of cutting the Toshiba enclosure open so I could attach to the SATA port when I figured out how to make it work. It's entirely possible that I labeled the Toshiba on Linux and then created the zpool on 151a7. I know I labeled and formatted the disk on Linux several times and was very frustrated that it worked w/ Linux but not OI. I find the blank partition table a bit disturbing. I was trying a lot of different things trying to find a way to make it work and making lots of noise on the list in the process. I might even have written something coherent. Not likely, but it might not hurt to search the list archives. We got a solid sheet of 2-3" of sleet on the ground last night, so I'm not going anywhere. I'll see if I can find any other bread crumbs. Please suggest anything you'd like me to try, as long as it's not something that will wipe the drive ;-) It used to be that my canonical test for admin experience was to mention modems. If they cringed, I knew they were experienced. Now I think I'd mention attaching a 6 TB disk. Have Fun! Reg On Mon, 2/16/15, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Reginald Beardsley" , "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, February 16, 2015, 9:12 AM Your drive is claiming to be 4kB/sector, which would increase the max drive size up to 16TB, if the 12 byte SCSI command limitation applies (which is just my speculation). So this would indicate a work-a-round for the 2TB limit is to use a drive which reports a real 4k sector size. Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I got a 3 TB Toshiba Canvio USB drive to format using 151a7 on an N40L. > > >From my notes: > > "The key to formatting the 3 TB drive was to use "format -e", supply LBA pseudo geometry and create an EFI label. NB must run fdisk from within format" > > However, it's not clear this was the USB drive rather than a bare 3 TB SATA drive. I was battling several things and a few years later it's not as clear as it seemed when I wrote it. I vividly recall I had a lot of trouble getting it to work properly, and considered just giving the drive to a friend to use on his Mac. > > But yes, it can be made to work. I use it to save incrementals from my backup server. > > The following is w/ the drive imported to my 151a8 internet access host. > > # zpool get all tosh_pool > NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE > tosh_pool size 2.72T - > tosh_pool capacity 49% - > tosh_pool altroot - default > tosh_pool health ONLINE - > tosh_pool guid 556785976751203449 default > tosh_pool version - default > tosh_pool bootfs - default > tosh_pool delegation on default > tosh_pool autoreplace off default > tosh_pool cachefile - default > tosh_pool failmode wait default > tosh_pool listsnapshots off default > tosh_pool autoexpand off default > tosh_pool dedupditto 0 default > tosh_pool dedupratio 1.00x - > tosh_pool free 1.36T - > tosh_pool allocated 1.36T - > tosh_pool readonly off - > tosh_pool comment - default > tosh_pool expandsize 0 - > tosh_pool freeing 0 default > tosh_pool feature@async_destroy enabled local > tosh_pool feature@empty_bpobj enabled local > tosh_pool feature@lz4_compress disabled local > > > and: > > format> verify > > Volume name = < > > ascii name = > bytes/sector
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Your drive is claiming to be 4kB/sector, which would increase the max drive size up to 16TB, if the 12 byte SCSI command limitation applies (which is just my speculation). So this would indicate a work-a-round for the 2TB limit is to use a drive which reports a real 4k sector size. Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: I got a 3 TB Toshiba Canvio USB drive to format using 151a7 on an N40L. >From my notes: "The key to formatting the 3 TB drive was to use "format -e", supply LBA pseudo geometry and create an EFI label. NB must run fdisk from within format" However, it's not clear this was the USB drive rather than a bare 3 TB SATA drive. I was battling several things and a few years later it's not as clear as it seemed when I wrote it. I vividly recall I had a lot of trouble getting it to work properly, and considered just giving the drive to a friend to use on his Mac. But yes, it can be made to work. I use it to save incrementals from my backup server. The following is w/ the drive imported to my 151a8 internet access host. # zpool get all tosh_pool NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE tosh_pool size 2.72T - tosh_pool capacity 49%- tosh_pool altroot- default tosh_pool health ONLINE - tosh_pool guid 556785976751203449 default tosh_pool version- default tosh_pool bootfs - default tosh_pool delegation on default tosh_pool autoreplaceoffdefault tosh_pool cachefile - default tosh_pool failmode wait default tosh_pool listsnapshots offdefault tosh_pool autoexpand offdefault tosh_pool dedupditto 0 default tosh_pool dedupratio 1.00x - tosh_pool free 1.36T - tosh_pool allocated 1.36T - tosh_pool readonly off- tosh_pool comment- default tosh_pool expandsize 0 - tosh_pool freeing0 default tosh_pool feature@async_destroy enabledlocal tosh_pool feature@empty_bpobjenabledlocal tosh_pool feature@lz4_compress disabled local and: format> verify Volume name = <> ascii name = bytes/sector= 4096 sectors = 732566645 accessible sectors = 732566640 Part TagFlag First Sector Size Last Sector 0 unassignedwm 0 0 0 1 unassignedwm 0 0 0 2 unassignedwm 0 0 0 3 unassignedwm 0 0 0 4 unassignedwm 0 0 0 5 unassignedwm 0 0 0 6 unassignedwm 0 0 0 7 unassignedwm 0 0 0 8 unassignedwm 0 0 0 Which looks wrong, so I'm not sure what's going on. I had loads of fun w/ the sector alignment. You should look at the ZFS pages. Klimov and I tried to document some of this stuff. George Wilson's writeup proved quite important, so make sure you read that also. http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/ZFS+and+Advanced+Format+disks I did this on the N40L which is powered down at the moment, but there is probably more info on that. The notes quoted above are from my log book. Reg On Mon, 2/16/15, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, February 16, 2015, 5:20 AM Marion Hakanson wrote: > Has anyone out there actually got a drive > 2TB working via USB on > an illumos distribution? My attempts so far have failed (oi151a7, oi151a9, > and XStreamOS), with my 3TB drive in a USB-SATA enclosure appearing as > a 2TB drive. The same drive/enclosure works perfectly when attached > to MacOS-X via USB, and the same drive/enclosure works fine when attached > by its eSATA connection to my illumos-based systems. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.illumos.org.email.enqueue.archive.li > stbox.com/msg00499.html [2nd attempt - first vanished into a black hole] I had a q
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
I got a 3 TB Toshiba Canvio USB drive to format using 151a7 on an N40L. >From my notes: "The key to formatting the 3 TB drive was to use "format -e", supply LBA pseudo geometry and create an EFI label. NB must run fdisk from within format" However, it's not clear this was the USB drive rather than a bare 3 TB SATA drive. I was battling several things and a few years later it's not as clear as it seemed when I wrote it. I vividly recall I had a lot of trouble getting it to work properly, and considered just giving the drive to a friend to use on his Mac. But yes, it can be made to work. I use it to save incrementals from my backup server. The following is w/ the drive imported to my 151a8 internet access host. # zpool get all tosh_pool NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE tosh_pool size 2.72T - tosh_pool capacity 49%- tosh_pool altroot- default tosh_pool health ONLINE - tosh_pool guid 556785976751203449 default tosh_pool version- default tosh_pool bootfs - default tosh_pool delegation on default tosh_pool autoreplaceoffdefault tosh_pool cachefile - default tosh_pool failmode wait default tosh_pool listsnapshots offdefault tosh_pool autoexpand offdefault tosh_pool dedupditto 0 default tosh_pool dedupratio 1.00x - tosh_pool free 1.36T - tosh_pool allocated 1.36T - tosh_pool readonly off- tosh_pool comment- default tosh_pool expandsize 0 - tosh_pool freeing0 default tosh_pool feature@async_destroy enabledlocal tosh_pool feature@empty_bpobjenabledlocal tosh_pool feature@lz4_compress disabled local and: format> verify Volume name = <> ascii name = bytes/sector= 4096 sectors = 732566645 accessible sectors = 732566640 Part TagFlag First Sector Size Last Sector 0 unassignedwm 0 0 0 1 unassignedwm 0 0 0 2 unassignedwm 0 0 0 3 unassignedwm 0 0 0 4 unassignedwm 0 0 0 5 unassignedwm 0 0 0 6 unassignedwm 0 0 0 7 unassignedwm 0 0 0 8 unassignedwm 0 0 0 Which looks wrong, so I'm not sure what's going on. I had loads of fun w/ the sector alignment. You should look at the ZFS pages. Klimov and I tried to document some of this stuff. George Wilson's writeup proved quite important, so make sure you read that also. http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/ZFS+and+Advanced+Format+disks I did this on the N40L which is powered down at the moment, but there is probably more info on that. The notes quoted above are from my log book. Reg On Mon, 2/16/15, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Date: Monday, February 16, 2015, 5:20 AM Marion Hakanson wrote: > Has anyone out there actually got a drive > 2TB working via USB on > an illumos distribution? My attempts so far have failed (oi151a7, oi151a9, > and XStreamOS), with my 3TB drive in a USB-SATA enclosure appearing as > a 2TB drive. The same drive/enclosure works perfectly when attached > to MacOS-X via USB, and the same drive/enclosure works fine when attached > by its eSATA connection to my illumos-based systems. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.illumos.org.email.enqueue.archive.li > stbox.com/msg00499.html [2nd attempt - first vanished into a black hole] I had a quick look through scsa2usb.c (not that it's an area I know), and I can only see it using Group 5 (12 byte) SCSI commands. This will limit the addressing to 2^32 blocks, which is 2TB for a 512byte/sector disk. So if I'm right, this is a limitation of USB-connected drives on Illumos. -- Andrew _
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Marion Hakanson wrote: Has anyone out there actually got a drive > 2TB working via USB on an illumos distribution? My attempts so far have failed (oi151a7, oi151a9, and XStreamOS), with my 3TB drive in a USB-SATA enclosure appearing as a 2TB drive. The same drive/enclosure works perfectly when attached to MacOS-X via USB, and the same drive/enclosure works fine when attached by its eSATA connection to my illumos-based systems. https://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.illumos.org.email.enqueue.archive.li stbox.com/msg00499.html [2nd attempt - first vanished into a black hole] I had a quick look through scsa2usb.c (not that it's an area I know), and I can only see it using Group 5 (12 byte) SCSI commands. This will limit the addressing to 2^32 blocks, which is 2TB for a 512byte/sector disk. So if I'm right, this is a limitation of USB-connected drives on Illumos. -- Andrew ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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ken mays via openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org said: > David, Get an external USB 2.0 4TB drive for under $130.Use it to offload > internal storage.Easy, portable, cheap. ~ Ken Has anyone out there actually got a drive > 2TB working via USB on an illumos distribution? My attempts so far have failed (oi151a7, oi151a9, and XStreamOS), with my 3TB drive in a USB-SATA enclosure appearing as a 2TB drive. The same drive/enclosure works perfectly when attached to MacOS-X via USB, and the same drive/enclosure works fine when attached by its eSATA connection to my illumos-based systems. https://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@lists.illumos.org.email.enqueue.archive.li stbox.com/msg00499.html Regards, Marion ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
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13 февраля 2015 г. 12:23:30 CET, v...@bb-c.de пишет: >> Does any one have any idea what the largest drives >> the N54L can take? > >We are using HGST 4 TB disks: > > /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11 : > SATA disk device at port 0 > model HGST HDS724040ALE640 > firmware MJAOA580 > serial number PK1331 > supported features: > 48-bit LBA, DMA, Native Command Queueing, SMART, SMART self-test > SATA Gen3 signaling speed (6.0Gbps) > Supported queue depth 32 > capacity = 7814037168 sectors > sd0 at ahci0: target 0 lun 0 > sd0 is /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@0,0 > /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@0,0 (sd0) online > > >Regards -- Volker And my brother's rig has WD Red 4Tb (WD40EFRX) although on an extra LSI card (one 4-port hba for big disks, plus 4 native ports for a 4*2.5" caddy in 5.25" bay with rpool/l2arc/zil ssd's). Also note that you can max out the ARC caches with 2*8gb ram modules. -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
David, Get an external USB 2.0 4TB drive for under $130.Use it to offload internal storage.Easy, portable, cheap. ~ Ken On Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:37 AM, david allan finch wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to do for an upgrade? I have a HP Proliant Microserver N54L with 4x 2Tb drives which I have been happy with for more than a year but I have started to run out of disk space in my zfs pool. I have been pruning the snapshots and rubbish but filling it up now is inevitable. What I would really like to do is to swap the disks out for larger one but I doubt that this is really practical as to make this work you need spare disk slots which I don't have. Another option might be to add a SATA card and add more disk that way. But I have no idea of where to start with this, and even if this microserver can do that. And a third is just to get a new server. I can't see any which have more than 4 drive bays do these exist (for reasonable money) or do you need to make your own? If so anyone got a recommendation? Thanks D ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
> Does any one have any idea what the largest drives > the N54L can take? We are using HGST 4 TB disks: /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11 : SATA disk device at port 0 model HGST HDS724040ALE640 firmware MJAOA580 serial number PK1331 supported features: 48-bit LBA, DMA, Native Command Queueing, SMART, SMART self-test SATA Gen3 signaling speed (6.0Gbps) Supported queue depth 32 capacity = 7814037168 sectors sd0 at ahci0: target 0 lun 0 sd0 is /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@0,0 /pci@0,0/pci103c,1609@11/disk@0,0 (sd0) online Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
On 13/02/2015 08:42, Volker A. Brandt wrote: I assume you have the 4 disks in some sort of RAID configuration. If you want to sweat it, you can pull one drive out and have it re-silver the replacement drive, repeat for the second drive, etc. If you do this I would run a scrub before pulling each drive, just in case. If you have some particularly important stuff I would copy it somewhere. +1 I have done this on a proper server Sun server in the past and I will try this. Does any one have any idea what the largest drives the N54L can take? Regards david ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
> I assume you have the 4 disks in some sort of RAID configuration. If > you want to sweat it, you can pull one drive out and have it > re-silver the replacement drive, repeat for the second drive, etc. > If you do this I would run a scrub before pulling each drive, just > in case. If you have some particularly important stuff I would copy > it somewhere. +1 > One other silly thing you might do is to get an external USB > enclosure and use that. You then mirror one of the drives and then > shut down and swap them. If it doesn't work then swap them back. I > haven't tried this so YMMV. The N54L has an eSATA connector so any external drive with eSATA works fine. We use it all the time. Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt & Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt "When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead" ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
David, I assume you have the 4 disks in some sort of RAID configuration. If you want to sweat it, you can pull one drive out and have it re-silver the replacement drive, repeat for the second drive, etc. If you do this I would run a scrub before pulling each drive, just in case. If you have some particularly important stuff I would copy it somewhere. One other silly thing you might do is to get an external USB enclosure and use that. You then mirror one of the drives and then shut down and swap them. If it doesn't work then swap them back. I haven't tried this so YMMV. I have an 8-port sata controller but use 6 mirrored pairs (2 internal and 4 external in a 5-bay chassis) in my setup. This allows me to add drives to a mirror and remove others with reduced anxiety. The setup is getting old (It's about 12 years running now) so I'm looking for a low-cost, low-powered replacement. Gary On 02/12/2015 05:36 AM, david allan finch wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to do for an upgrade? I have a HP Proliant Microserver N54L with 4x 2Tb drives which I have been happy with for more than a year but I have started to run out of disk space in my zfs pool. I have been pruning the snapshots and rubbish but filling it up now is inevitable. What I would really like to do is to swap the disks out for larger one but I doubt that this is really practical as to make this work you need spare disk slots which I don't have. Another option might be to add a SATA card and add more disk that way. But I have no idea of where to start with this, and even if this microserver can do that. And a third is just to get a new server. I can't see any which have more than 4 drive bays do these exist (for reasonable money) or do you need to make your own? If so anyone got a recommendation? Thanks D ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] HP Proliant Microserver N54L Upgrade
Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to do for an upgrade? I have a HP Proliant Microserver N54L with 4x 2Tb drives which I have been happy with for more than a year but I have started to run out of disk space in my zfs pool. I have been pruning the snapshots and rubbish but filling it up now is inevitable. What I would really like to do is to swap the disks out for larger one but I doubt that this is really practical as to make this work you need spare disk slots which I don't have. Another option might be to add a SATA card and add more disk that way. But I have no idea of where to start with this, and even if this microserver can do that. And a third is just to get a new server. I can't see any which have more than 4 drive bays do these exist (for reasonable money) or do you need to make your own? If so anyone got a recommendation? Thanks D ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
