Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-18 Thread the outsider
I just want to share this because I see a lot of people moving to office365
and google because they are tiered of all problems with hosting their own
mailserver and to keep it up to date and running. 

I use a commercial product that works out of the box on Openindiana. But it
is free for 5 users. (although you lose 1 for the "postmaster")
It supports SMTP, POP3, RPOP, AIRSYNC, SIP, XMPP, WEBCAL, Webmail and more. 

With RPOP you can fetch email from different mail accounts into 1 mail
account on this server. So I fetch my mail from several accounts with a pop3
box every 2 minutes and store it in 1 user account on my server. My phone
and mailclient connect via IMAP with my server and I can read all mail with
1 account and 1 password. 

I searched the internet for weeks for a good Solaris ready mailserver and
this was the best I could find. Even Oracle doesn't offer mailserver
solutions for Solaris. 

Since I don't want to be called a spammer I will not post the name of the
program. 
If you are interested please DM me, I have 0.0 connections with this mail
program but I hate it when people discard OpenIndiana as a server-OS because
they think they can do more with something else. 
 


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-22 Thread Jim Klimov
18 декабря 2015 г. 10:52:20 CET, the outsider  пишет:
>I just want to share this because I see a lot of people moving to
>office365
>and google because they are tiered of all problems with hosting their
>own
>mailserver and to keep it up to date and running. 
>
>I use a commercial product that works out of the box on Openindiana.
>But it
>is free for 5 users. (although you lose 1 for the "postmaster")
>It supports SMTP, POP3, RPOP, AIRSYNC, SIP, XMPP, WEBCAL, Webmail and
>more. 
>
>With RPOP you can fetch email from different mail accounts into 1 mail
>account on this server. So I fetch my mail from several accounts with a
>pop3
>box every 2 minutes and store it in 1 user account on my server. My
>phone
>and mailclient connect via IMAP with my server and I can read all mail
>with
>1 account and 1 password. 
>
>I searched the internet for weeks for a good Solaris ready mailserver
>and
>this was the best I could find. Even Oracle doesn't offer mailserver
>solutions for Solaris. 
>
>Since I don't want to be called a spammer I will not post the name of
>the
>program. 
>If you are interested please DM me, I have 0.0 connections with this
>mail
>program but I hate it when people discard OpenIndiana as a server-OS
>because
>they think they can do more with something else. 
> 
>
>
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> Even Oracle doesn't offer mailserversolutions for Solaris. 

Not quite true, the last I checked, Sun Mail Server (nee Netscape mail, then 
Java CommSuite, now OCUCS) lives on and produces new versions.

My old job supported it for a number of ccustomers with my hands, a pretty good 
product. Although in Oracle hands it is now only paid-for, and with a minimal 
purchase baseline so it is aimed at providers or very large organizations. 
Things are negotiatable but it is difficult.

Jim

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-22 Thread the outsider
Ok, but OCUCS  is the top of the bill 
I played with it in SUN time and it was already impressive at that time!
Just like the SUN java webserver, which has now split into iPlanet and Liferay. 
Like all SUN products they were invented and created by the best and most 
creative people. 
I still think that Steve Jobs was sleeping when Oracle wanted to buy SUN. Apple 
could have ruled the world on desktop and server level.
(although it wouldn't be good for the world)

The product I use costs ~€ 1300,- for the first year and a 25 user license. The 
next year you pay approx. € 250,- each year. 
Pricing is beyond home server usage, but for institutional usage it is very 
good and a good alternative for Exchange online. And it runs on OI 100%. 



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jim Klimov [mailto:jimkli...@cos.ru] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 18 december 2015 12:42
Aan: Discussion list for OpenIndiana ; the 
outsider ; 'Discussion list for OpenIndiana' 

Onderwerp: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

18 декабря 2015 г. 10:52:20 CET, the outsider  пишет:
>I just want to share this because I see a lot of people moving to
>office365
>and google because they are tiered of all problems with hosting their 
>own mailserver and to keep it up to date and running.
>
>I use a commercial product that works out of the box on Openindiana.
>But it
>is free for 5 users. (although you lose 1 for the "postmaster") It 
>supports SMTP, POP3, RPOP, AIRSYNC, SIP, XMPP, WEBCAL, Webmail and 
>more.
>
>With RPOP you can fetch email from different mail accounts into 1 mail 
>account on this server. So I fetch my mail from several accounts with a
>pop3
>box every 2 minutes and store it in 1 user account on my server. My 
>phone and mailclient connect via IMAP with my server and I can read all 
>mail with
>1 account and 1 password. 
>
>I searched the internet for weeks for a good Solaris ready mailserver 
>and this was the best I could find. Even Oracle doesn't offer 
>mailserver solutions for Solaris.
>
>Since I don't want to be called a spammer I will not post the name of 
>the program.
>If you are interested please DM me, I have 0.0 connections with this 
>mail program but I hate it when people discard OpenIndiana as a 
>server-OS because they think they can do more with something else.
> 
>
>
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> Even Oracle doesn't offer mailserversolutions for Solaris. 

Not quite true, the last I checked, Sun Mail Server (nee Netscape mail, then 
Java CommSuite, now OCUCS) lives on and produces new versions.

My old job supported it for a number of ccustomers with my hands, a pretty good 
product. Although in Oracle hands it is now only paid-for, and with a minimal 
purchase baseline so it is aimed at providers or very large organizations. 
Things are negotiatable but it is difficult.

Jim

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-23 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 3:00 PM, the outsider 
wrote:

> I still think that Steve Jobs was sleeping when Oracle wanted to buy SUN.
> Apple could have ruled the world on desktop and server level.
> (although it wouldn't be good for the world)
>

I don't think Jobs particularly wanted to sell servers and high-end Unix
workstations.  He had already tried that with NeXT, and it didn't work out
all that well.  That market can easily turn into a money pit because of
competition from cheap PCs running Linux.  Not that they're the same
product, but explaining to people why they aren't is tricky.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-23 Thread Jerry Kemp

Not that it needs confirming, but I can 2nd Jim's comments.

A few years back I did a 3 year contract at a very large telco.  If you used 
your telco provided email account (i.e. either cell phone/mobile device or 
broadband) your email lives and is processed both by Sparc based Sun/Oracle 
servers using (what ever is the current name is this year) the Sun/Oracle email 
server.


It was a very interesting job.  They had originally started using large SGI Irix 
based systems (using a different email solution), then did a brief migration to 
linux, then from linux to Solaris.


Although no longer in production by the time I arrived, this was the last point 
in my career that I was able to used Silicon Graphics equipment.


Jerry



Even Oracle doesn't offer mailserversolutions for Solaris.


Not quite true, the last I checked, Sun Mail Server (nee Netscape mail, then 
Java CommSuite, now OCUCS) lives on and produces new versions.

My old job supported it for a number of ccustomers with my hands, a pretty good 
product. Although in Oracle hands it is now only paid-for, and with a minimal 
purchase baseline so it is aimed at providers or very large organizations. 
Things are negotiatable but it is difficult.

Jim



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-23 Thread Alan Coopersmith

On 12/23/15 02:21 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote:

Not that it needs confirming, but I can 2nd Jim's comments.

A few years back I did a 3 year contract at a very large telco.  If you used
your telco provided email account (i.e. either cell phone/mobile device or
broadband) your email lives and is processed both by Sparc based Sun/Oracle
servers using (what ever is the current name is this year) the Sun/Oracle email
server.


Oracle Communications Messaging Server - according to the data sheet it's
available for:
  - Oracle Solaris 64-bit SPARC and x64 10, 11
  - Oracle Linux 6, Rd Hat Enterprise Linux 6

http://www.oracle.com/us/industries/communications/communications-messaging-server-ds-520401.pdf
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/communications/unified-communications/messaging-server/overview/index.html

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mailservers and clients that work on OI

2015-12-23 Thread Jerry Kemp

Thank you Alan.   :)

Merry Christmas,

Jerry Kemp




On 12/23/15 04:29 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:



Oracle Communications Messaging Server - according to the data sheet it's
available for:
   - Oracle Solaris 64-bit SPARC and x64 10, 11
   - Oracle Linux 6, Rd Hat Enterprise Linux 6

http://www.oracle.com/us/industries/communications/communications-messaging-server-ds-520401.pdf

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/communications/unified-communications/messaging-server/overview/index.html




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