Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-09-24 Thread Dave Koelmeyer


On 13/09/2014 3:19 p.m., Dave Koelmeyer wrote:


On 13/09/14 02:15, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/25/2014 23:14, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hi.

Dave Koelmeyer писал 25.08.2014 12:18:

Hi Folks,

Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences
-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce
and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest
Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository),
attempting the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS
packet with unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the
client either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which
Ubuntu box I connect from.

Is anyone else seeing this?


I see the same. However, I remember that after rebuilding vino 2 months
ago this worked
as expected... It seems to be a bug, but some debugging is necessary to
find out what's
wrong.


Hello.
I've tested VNC connection to current OI /hipster installation. This 
worked. It works for me in two ways.
1) If I enable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default, I can connect 
to gdm login screen.


2) If I enable remote desktop access  with "Desktop sharing" AND 
disable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default I can connect to user 
session.


Please, check how it works for you.




Hi Alexander,

Thanks very much for this, and apologies for not getting back to 
you/the list with more detail sooner (I have every intention, but just 
rather a lot on at the moment). I'll give this a try and see.




Hi All,

Bruce's suggestions indeed point to this being some interaction 
specifically with Remmina (v 0.9.99.1 on the clients in question). Using 
SSVNC on the same client (pulled down from USC on Ubuntu 14.04), or 
RealVNC Viewer 5.2.0 on a Windows client, I can connect to the same 
Hipster host as expected without any additional configuration. Disabling 
encryption in Remmina doesn't change the behaviour. So – not an 
insurmountable problem at all given alternate VNC clients, time 
permitting I'll do some further digging.


Cheers,
Dave

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-09-12 Thread Dormition Skete (Hotmail)
> Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
> using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? 

I have not used hipster, but when I was using VNC on 151a7 (Gnome) with 
"svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default”, dbus would run wild sometimes, 
really putting the CPU’s to the test.  I never did have time to investigate it. 
 But while you are working with VNC, you might want to keep an eye out for that.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-09-12 Thread Dave Koelmeyer


On 13/09/14 02:15, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

On 08/25/2014 23:14, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hi.

Dave Koelmeyer писал 25.08.2014 12:18:

Hi Folks,

Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences
-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce
and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest
Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository),
attempting the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS
packet with unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the
client either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which
Ubuntu box I connect from.

Is anyone else seeing this?


I see the same. However, I remember that after rebuilding vino 2 months
ago this worked
as expected... It seems to be a bug, but some debugging is necessary to
find out what's
wrong.


Hello.
I've tested VNC connection to current OI /hipster installation. This 
worked. It works for me in two ways.
1) If I enable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default, I can connect 
to gdm login screen.


2) If I enable remote desktop access  with "Desktop sharing" AND 
disable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default I can connect to user 
session.


Please, check how it works for you.




Hi Alexander,

Thanks very much for this, and apologies for not getting back to you/the 
list with more detail sooner (I have every intention, but just rather a 
lot on at the moment). I'll give this a try and see.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-09-12 Thread Alexander Pyhalov

On 08/25/2014 23:14, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:

Hi.

Dave Koelmeyer писал 25.08.2014 12:18:

Hi Folks,

Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences
-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce
and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest
Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository),
attempting the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS
packet with unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the
client either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which
Ubuntu box I connect from.

Is anyone else seeing this?


I see the same. However, I remember that after rebuilding vino 2 months
ago this worked
as expected... It seems to be a bug, but some debugging is necessary to
find out what's
wrong.


Hello.
I've tested VNC connection to current OI /hipster installation. This 
worked. It works for me in two ways.
1) If I enable svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default, I can connect to 
gdm login screen.


2) If I enable remote desktop access  with "Desktop sharing" AND disable 
svc:/application/x11/xvnc-inetd:default I can connect to user session.


Please, check how it works for you.


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-08-25 Thread Alexander Pyhalov

Hi.

Dave Koelmeyer писал 25.08.2014 12:18:

Hi Folks,

Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences
-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce
and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest
Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository),
attempting the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS
packet with unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the
client either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which
Ubuntu box I connect from.

Is anyone else seeing this?


I see the same. However, I remember that after rebuilding vino 2 months 
ago this worked
as expected... It seems to be a bug, but some debugging is necessary to 
find out what's

wrong.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I wish I could get FreeNX to compile and run on some kind of Illumos build
- it seems like I'm the only one who likes it over VNC. :P

" 'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the
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irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and
warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we’re all
damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG
episode "The Drumhead"
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- Huntsville, Alabama metropolitan area USA


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Bruce Lilly  wrote:

> Different setup here (oi_151a8 (not hipster), openSUSE clients, had
> different error message from Remmina before failure ("Selected Security
> Scheme 18")).
> vncviewer (part of the "tightvnc" package on the openSUSE client side)
> works file.  GNOME client (vinagre) fails. KDE client (krdc) just shows a
> dark cyan background.  Remmina fails with a popup error message as noted
> above with mostly default settings, but works if the connection is edited
> by checking the "Disable encryption" checkbox on the Remmina side.
>
> So, some things to try in your situation:
> 1. try different clients on your Ubuntu box(es) [tightvnc's vncviewer is
> basic, but if it works that indicates a Remmina issue]
> 2. try Remmina options, especially related to encryption.
> 3. check if your install wiped out anything that you used to have on the OI
> box (e.g. detailed GNOME preferences for desktop sharing (one of the
>   nondescript icons on the top panel) for the user that has the GNOME
> session open).
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
> dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
> > using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
> > oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences ->
> > Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce and
> it
> > just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest Hipster ISO
> and
> > updated via the current Hipster repository), attempting the same spits
> out
> > an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was
> > received"/. Doesn't appear to be the client either, based on seeing the
> > same thing irrespective of which Ubuntu box I connect from.
> >
> > Is anyone else seeing this?
> >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Lilly
Different setup here (oi_151a8 (not hipster), openSUSE clients, had
different error message from Remmina before failure ("Selected Security
Scheme 18")).
vncviewer (part of the "tightvnc" package on the openSUSE client side)
works file.  GNOME client (vinagre) fails. KDE client (krdc) just shows a
dark cyan background.  Remmina fails with a popup error message as noted
above with mostly default settings, but works if the connection is edited
by checking the "Disable encryption" checkbox on the Remmina side.

So, some things to try in your situation:
1. try different clients on your Ubuntu box(es) [tightvnc's vncviewer is
basic, but if it works that indicates a Remmina issue]
2. try Remmina options, especially related to encryption.
3. check if your install wiped out anything that you used to have on the OI
box (e.g. detailed GNOME preferences for desktop sharing (one of the
  nondescript icons on the top panel) for the user that has the GNOME
session open).


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Dave Koelmeyer <
dave.koelme...@davekoelmeyer.co.nz> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with
> using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old
> oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences ->
> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce and it
> just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest Hipster ISO and
> updated via the current Hipster repository), attempting the same spits out
> an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was
> received"/. Doesn't appear to be the client either, based on seeing the
> same thing irrespective of which Ubuntu box I connect from.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-08-25 Thread Jim Klimov
25 августа 2014 г. 10:18:27 CEST, Dave Koelmeyer 
 пишет:
>Hi Folks,
>
>Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with 
>using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old 
>oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences 
>-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce 
>and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest 
>Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository), attempting
>
>the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS packet with 
>unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the client 
>either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which Ubuntu box
>
>I connect from.
>
>Is anyone else seeing this?

Hi, I have no idea about the real isssue, but my debugging would start with a 
sniffer with packet output (tcpdump verbose, ngrep, etc.) of your two cases.

As far as random guesswork goes, you might have 'plaintext' communications 
flowing where at least one of the sides expects (or agreed) to encrypted comms 
(e.g. like when you poke HTTP requests at pure HTTPS server handlers or 
vice-versa)?

Alternately, the two might have incompatible crypto settings (i.e. recent SSH 
(may be your tunnel implementation) versions deprecated insecure ciphers and 
disabled them by default, while somewhat older clients did not have newer 
ciphers - hence no feature overlap, negotiations fail... logs and/or higher ssh 
client or server verbosity might help test that.

HTH,
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] VNC connections to Hipster

2014-08-25 Thread Dave Koelmeyer

Hi Folks,

Before I go delving into why, has anyone else encountered issues with 
using Remmina (on Ubuntu) to connect over VNC to Hipster? On my old 
oi_151a8 box one simply enabled the VNC server in Gnome (/"Preferences 
-> Desktop Sharing"/), pointed Remmina to it without any special sauce 
and it just worked. On my Hipster box (installed using the latest 
Hipster ISO and updated via the current Hipster repository), attempting 
the same spits out an error: /"TLS handshake failed: A TLS packet with 
unexpected length was received"/. Doesn't appear to be the client 
either, based on seeing the same thing irrespective of which Ubuntu box 
I connect from.


Is anyone else seeing this?

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