Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Harry Putnam wrote: I don't notice any mention of graphics while paging round those sites and linked sites. Do server platforms generally not have graphics or is it just inserted into a slot somewhere? or what? True server-boards normally have a very low-end video interface (often Matrox). Ones designed for workstation use don't have that. Solaris works best with Nvidia PCI-e video cards and offers 2D and OpenGL performance similar to Linux with those cards. However, there is no support for other GPU programming environments like CUDA or OpenCL on Solaris. I have a Quadro 4000 in my system, and had OpenIndiana briefly running on another system with a Quadro 2000. Make sure you check driver availability while selecting a card. You need a 4U chassis with a power-supply configuration intended to support video cards. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
FWIW the HP Z400 series workstations support ECC and you can find good deals on them both on HP's refurb site and on eBay. They are certified for Solaris, so OI should not have an issue. I bought a Z400 w/ quad core 3.2 GHz Xeon processor, 8 GB ECC DRAM, nVidia FX1800 and 500 GB of disk for ~$1100 US in January 2011 on eBay. They are very nicely built. I'm still running Solaris 10 U8 on that system. Have Fun! Reg --- On Fri, 2/1/13, Harry Putnam wrote: > From: Harry Putnam > Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram > To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > Date: Friday, February 1, 2013, 10:23 AM > Bob Friesenhahn > writes: > > [...] > > > If you are not dead-set on having an an i7 CPU, then > there are many > > more options. SuperMicro makes some nice > motherboards which work with > > Xeon CPUs and support ECC memory and built-in > audio. These > > motherboards are basically server-class motherboards > with > > "workstation" options. These run VirtualBox very > well. > > > > Here are some examples. I think that OpenIndiana > should work on all > > three: > > > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9SRA.cfm > > > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAL-i.cfm > > > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAi.cfm > > Thanks for the helpful input. > > Looking at specs and trying to imagine a working home system > seems to > throw my pea brain into 'flight of fight' syndrome and it > mostly > freezes. Probably due to a horribly weak background in comp > tech. > > I don't notice any mention of graphics while paging round > those sites > and linked sites. > > Do server platforms generally not have graphics or is it > just inserted > into a slot somewhere? or what? > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
On 02/01/2013 05:23 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Do server platforms generally not have graphics or is it just inserted > into a slot somewhere? or what? "Sadly" nowadays they do. I put sadly in quotes, because for some OSes having a graphics card in the machine is actually required to even be installable (*ahem* Windows). Old-school servers (read: SPARC boxes, mainframes, etc.) only had a serial port to which you either hooked up a serial terminal, or another machine via a null-modem cable (e.g. laptop with serial port, sometimes emulated by a USB-serial dongle). I still prefer this method of controlling my machines, as it allows me to easily cut-n-paste from the console and redirect it to a different server (in case you don't have an integrated system controller). Cheers, -- Saso ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
Bob Friesenhahn writes: [...] > If you are not dead-set on having an an i7 CPU, then there are many > more options. SuperMicro makes some nice motherboards which work with > Xeon CPUs and support ECC memory and built-in audio. These > motherboards are basically server-class motherboards with > "workstation" options. These run VirtualBox very well. > > Here are some examples. I think that OpenIndiana should work on all > three: > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9SRA.cfm > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAL-i.cfm > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAi.cfm Thanks for the helpful input. Looking at specs and trying to imagine a working home system seems to throw my pea brain into 'flight of fight' syndrome and it mostly freezes. Probably due to a horribly weak background in comp tech. I don't notice any mention of graphics while paging round those sites and linked sites. Do server platforms generally not have graphics or is it just inserted into a slot somewhere? or what? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
On Sun, Jan 27 at 3:21, Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: From: Harry Putnam [mailto:rea...@newsguy.com] Summary: I hope someone here can tell me if there is a setup using recent i7 cpus that supports ECC ram. I expect most people don't know about these pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors Another suggestion is http://ark.intel.com, that's a site with essentially all of Intel's products in a searchable/comparable format. -- Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
> From: Harry Putnam [mailto:rea...@newsguy.com] > > Summary: > I hope someone here can tell me if there is a setup using recent i7 > cpus that supports ECC ram. I expect most people don't know about these pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors I've used that to look up various details of i5 and i7 processors. I assume similar pages exist for other categories. It beats the heck out of trying to look up individual processors by model number. Anyway, according to "the internet" which is synonymous with wikipedia: Core i7-610E, i7-620UE, i7-620LE and i7-660UE have support for ECC memory Core i7-2610UE, Core i7-2655LE has support for ECC memory Core i7-2715QE has support for ECC memory I suspect that's the most useful answer you were dreaming of hoping for. ;-) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
> Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:17:25 -0500 > From: Harry Putnam > To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org > Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram > Message-ID: <878v7fqy22@newsguy.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Summary: > I hope someone here can tell me if there is a setup using recent i7 > cpus that supports ECC ram. > > Is there a motherboard that supports both? > > Further, please feel free to suggest the best setup in your opinion > for running OI, (primarily for the zfs based storage setup with > several mirrored pairs of discs) but also at least one vm with a win7 > based guest capable of running all the adobe tools and any of the > associated cpu intensive chores involved with editing video and other > intensive Graphics chores. > > Note: This would be a single user setup. > > --- - ---=--- - > > More detail: > > I want to build up a system with 16-32 GB ram that can run openindiana > but can also run vms with at least one of them hosting a heavy duty > Win7 OS, capable of using all the adobe tools to the max. But also > several other vms running various linux based OSs. > > I noticed, while using the "build it yourself" type things on ebay > (mostly 'SuperMicro' sponsored) that when building any of the i7 based > setups, none listed asus motherboards (or any other brand I found) > that say explicitly they support ECC ram. > > Whereas, when building based on recent AMD cpus, nearly all the asus > motherboards listed show explicit support for ECC ram. > > I've also seen threads in various online forums suggesting no i7 based > system can use ECC ram. Hopefully someone here will know the actual > state of affairs. > Define "recent i7 cpus". I picked up a pair of L5520 (i7) and Supermicro motherboard off ebay for <$250. Add 48Gb of ram and it runs ESX with a OI VM. If 1366 is recent enough there are lots of options out there for you. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, Harry Putnam wrote: Summary: I hope someone here can tell me if there is a setup using recent i7 cpus that supports ECC ram. Typically such CPUs are "Xeon" branded and even the name Xeon is not sufficient to indicate that ECC RAM is supported. You need to check Intel's product page for the specific CPU and also check the motherboard support. Then you need to make sure to specify ECC memory. As you noticed, AMD CPUs are much better about supporting ECC but there are some recent AMD CPUs which don't support ECC. Is there a motherboard that supports both? If you are not dead-set on having an an i7 CPU, then there are many more options. SuperMicro makes some nice motherboards which work with Xeon CPUs and support ECC memory and built-in audio. These motherboards are basically server-class motherboards with "workstation" options. These run VirtualBox very well. Here are some examples. I think that OpenIndiana should work on all three: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9SRA.cfm http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAL-i.cfm http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DAi.cfm Further, please feel free to suggest the best setup in your opinion for running OI, (primarily for the zfs based storage setup with several mirrored pairs of discs) but also at least one vm with a win7 based guest capable of running all the adobe tools and any of the associated cpu intensive chores involved with editing video and other intensive Graphics chores. Note: This would be a single user setup. As long as you choose good quality hardware and make sure that OpenIndiana supports the devices, then you should be fine. Mirrored boot disks are a wise idea. If you have the money, you can buy a chassis which supports 8 hot-swap disks plus two fixed disks. For example, the 743TQ-1200B-SQ is an excellent choice (very solid and quiet) except for the annoying problem that the USB ports at the front are USB 3.0 and OpenIndiana does not support them yet. The motherboards provide plenty of USB 2.0 ports but they must all go to the back of the unit. http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/743/SC743TQ-1200-SQ.cfm That is what I have. I use the fixed disk slots for the boot drives so that all 8 hot-swap slots can be used for a main storage pool. As a small annoyance, I already had to replace both of the fixed boot drives whereas the hot-swap drives had no problem. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] i7 cpu that accepts ECC Ram
Summary: I hope someone here can tell me if there is a setup using recent i7 cpus that supports ECC ram. Is there a motherboard that supports both? Further, please feel free to suggest the best setup in your opinion for running OI, (primarily for the zfs based storage setup with several mirrored pairs of discs) but also at least one vm with a win7 based guest capable of running all the adobe tools and any of the associated cpu intensive chores involved with editing video and other intensive Graphics chores. Note: This would be a single user setup. ---- ---=--- - More detail: I want to build up a system with 16-32 GB ram that can run openindiana but can also run vms with at least one of them hosting a heavy duty Win7 OS, capable of using all the adobe tools to the max. But also several other vms running various linux based OSs. I noticed, while using the "build it yourself" type things on ebay (mostly 'SuperMicro' sponsored) that when building any of the i7 based setups, none listed asus motherboards (or any other brand I found) that say explicitly they support ECC ram. Whereas, when building based on recent AMD cpus, nearly all the asus motherboards listed show explicit support for ECC ram. I've also seen threads in various online forums suggesting no i7 based system can use ECC ram. Hopefully someone here will know the actual state of affairs. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
