Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[jreid]

On Monday, May 23, 2016 12:16 PM, Bob Friesenhahn 
> On Thu, 19 May 2016, Joe Reid wrote: 
> > I don't need USB3* right now. 
>  
> You will likely be very unhappy if the BIOS does not support using 
> USB3 ports in a USB2 emulation mode.  Without this you can not use 
> keyboard/mouse or boot OI from a USB stick or USB DVD drive. 

yes, I wouldn't buy a motherboard (in the near future) that didn't have usb2 
ports on the IO Panel...I just presumed any blue USB ports wouldn't work...

> I have much more confidence that Illumos will support UEFI boot in a 
> reasonable time-frame than it will support USB3 since someone has been 
> actively working on a new boot-loader. 

this is good to hear.

The sale I (thought I) saw, was just a typo, so I'm not going down this path 
anytime soon, and my new video card seems to have resolved most of the issues 
Sol 11.3 was presenting me anyway...I look forward to watching progress in 
Illumos and OI in the future.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Bob Friesenhahn]

On Thu, 19 May 2016, Joe Reid wrote:


On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:

I also can't remember if the ASUS Z170 boards are UEFI only; based on a
recent comment (I think from Alexander), Illumos doesn't support UEFI
boot.  That could be a show-stopper.

If the show does start...

I don't need USB3* right now.


You will likely be very unhappy if the BIOS does not support using 
USB3 ports in a USB2 emulation mode.  Without this you can not use 
keyboard/mouse or boot OI from a USB stick or USB DVD drive.


Another limitation I have heard about is that Illumos expects 
DMA/mappings to be within the first 4GB of address space and some 
BIOS do not arrange for this any more.


The Illumos limitations are becomming more significant over time.

I have much more confidence that Illumos will support UEFI boot in a 
reasonable time-frame than it will support USB3 since someone has been 
actively working on a new boot-loader.


Bob
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Nikola M]

On 05/23/16 05:06 PM, bscuk Private mail wrote:
I dont understand your question OiOS has always stood for Open 
Indinana Operating System ?


Robert


I searched and see only on some links originated form the poster, maybe.
No one ever called Openindiana "OiOS", that I have seen since now.
That's maybe someone's personal idea but no it never was OI's.

I also found a project called Oios not having to do anything with 
Openindiana, e.g. OI. (SLA guarantee scheduler)

I am pretty content with OI/oi as shortcut for Openindiana.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[bscuk Private mail]

I dont understand your question OiOS has always stood for Open Indinana 
Operating System ?


Robert

On 23/05/2016 09:47, Nikola M wrote:

On 05/20/16 12:55 PM, Private openbabel wrote:


tool OiOS.

HI,

Wonder why you mention "Oios" and what is it?

Openindiana is usually shortened as "OI" and Openindiana is part of 
illumos.


"OiOS" is not Openindiana and I wonder where that word comes from?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Nikola M]

On 05/20/16 12:55 PM, Private openbabel wrote:


tool OiOS.

HI,

Wonder why you mention "Oios" and what is it?

Openindiana is usually shortened as "OI" and Openindiana is part of 
illumos.


"OiOS" is not Openindiana and I wonder where that word comes from?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Aurélien Larcher]

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Private openbabel 
wrote:

>
> Hardware compatibility questions -It maybe worth reevaluationing the
> relationship between HCL database and the Device Driver Utility submission
> mechanisum. A self serve HCL is a very useful tool OiOS.
>

No no the real question is when someone will actually update the Device
Driver Utility ;P



>
> Robert
>
> On 20/05/2016 00:36, Joe Reid wrote:
>
>> On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be certain to update the HCL on the OpenIndiana wiki when I have the
>>> board and can test it, but as I said, that will be several weeks yet.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info.  I'm not in a hurry, per se...it's just that the
>> mobo's on-sale, 70% off...
>>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Private openbabel]

Hardware compatibility questions -It maybe worth reevaluationing the 
relationship between HCL database and the Device Driver Utility 
submission mechanisum. A self serve HCL is a very useful tool OiOS.


Robert

On 20/05/2016 00:36, Joe Reid wrote:

On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:
I'll be certain to update the HCL on the OpenIndiana wiki when I have 
the
board and can test it, but as I said, that will be several weeks yet. 


Thanks for the info.  I'm not in a hurry, per se...it's just that the 
mobo's on-sale, 70% off...




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 20/05/2016 03:04, Joe Reid wrote:

On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:
...
Any idea about the Mellanox ConnectX-2  I see ConnectX.  Not a show
stopper.


Mellanox Connect-X1 to 4 are recognized by OI.




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Joe Reid]

On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:

I also can't remember if the ASUS Z170 boards are UEFI only; based on a
recent comment (I think from Alexander), Illumos doesn't support UEFI
boot.  That could be a show-stopper.

If the show does start...

I don't need USB3* right now.  Nor U.2, or M.2 if they're not up.  I 
would like to use the i3's HD530 to drive one of adafruit.com's 800x480 
touch screen's.  An X server in portrait mode on a display that has only 
1 mode and might not auto-negotiate well: so decent video support would 
be nice.  But I can live without that as long as I can install and use a 
serial console, even if it takes some additional simple video card.


I don't need audio (it's home heavy-NAS server), nor Thunderbolt at the 
moment.  I see both network adapters, I219-LM and I handful of entries 
for I210, hoping one is -AT.  I see my LSI SAS2308, but not the Marvell 
88SE9215, but there are other options, especially if all 6 on-board SATA 
ports work.


Any idea about the Mellanox ConnectX-2  I see ConnectX.  Not a show stopper.

so - does anyone know if OI boots on an ASUS Z170?  I found a Nov 2015 
article about UFEI on an ASUS Z170-A, it looks as though CSM was enabled 
and legacy options were the default.  Can anyone confirm with recent BIOS?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Joe Reid]

On 5/19/2016 6:30 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:

I'll be certain to update the HCL on the OpenIndiana wiki when I have the
board and can test it, but as I said, that will be several weeks yet. 


Thanks for the info.  I'm not in a hurry, per se...it's just that the 
mobo's on-sale, 70% off...


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Tim Mooney]

In regard to: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS, Joe Reid said (at 5:57pm...:

I was thinking of migrating from Solaris to OI and was wondering if anyone 
knew of the ASUS Z170-WS mobo works?  What's the current state of Skylake and 
the Z170 chipset?


What's your timeline for doing this?

I ask, because I'm doing a build for Windows using a relative of that
board, and I could try OI hipster on it just to see what works, before
I do the actual install of Windows.

It will probably be a few weeks before I'm in a position to try it,
though.

Without even testing it, I know that the USB3 or 3.1 support won't work,
since Illumos doesn't support USB 3.

I also can't remember if the ASUS Z170 boards are UEFI only; based on a
recent comment (I think from Alexander), Illumos doesn't support UEFI
boot.  That could be a show-stopper.

I'll be certain to update the HCL on the OpenIndiana wiki when I have the
board and can test it, but as I said, that will be several weeks yet.

Tim
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ASUS Z170-WS

[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Joe Reid  wrote:

> I was thinking of migrating from Solaris to OI and was wondering if anyone
> knew of the ASUS Z170-WS mobo works?  What's the current state of Skylake
> and the Z170 chipset?
>
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There is a list of Linux compatibility of ASUS mother boards :


https://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS-Compatibility/
https://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutASUS/OS/Linux1604.pdf


Selection a model from this list may be useful , because , at least they
are known that they can work in a Unix compatible OS  tested by the
manufacturer .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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