Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help, please! Starting to use postfix in an OI151_a5 environment, from scratch
On 16 Jul 2012, at 13:31, Gary Gendel wrote: > What I do is to take the time to backup the /usr/lib/sendmail for all three > programs and then do a symbolic link to the one needed (in my case it's > postfix). The reason I do this is that, since sendmail is part of the > consolidation, this binary is sometimes overwritten when you upgrade OI. > There is a plan somewhere to handle wholesale replacement of sendmail with > another MTA better, but I don't know what the current state is. It looks like IPS does have a solution for handling alternative versions of a tool - package mediators. It is done with symlinks and annotations in the pkg manifests. Is the intention to use mediators? Chris signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help, please! Starting to use postfix in an OI151_a5 environment, from scratch
Hi Hans! At the beginning I would like to apologize for my English. W dniu 16.07.2012 13:58, Hans J. Albertsson napisał(a): Today's first question: OI has the SMF stuff: this confuses some issues. I assume I'm first supposed to configure the various params for postfix, like myhostname, myorigin, mydomain plus many more. Then I'm supposing I should do # svcadm disable sendmail # svcadm enable postfix For example: # svcs -a |grep -E 'postfix|sendmail' disabled lip_14 svc:/network/smtp:sendmail disabled lip_14 svc:/network/sendmail-client:default online lip_14 svc:/network/smtp:postfix so you can: # svcadm disable svc:/network/smtp:sendmail and # svcadm enable svc:/network/smtp:postfix short form "sendmail" and "postfix" would work too if not be ambiguous. Is this correct? Will this do postfix start for me, and will "svcadm refresh postfix" (or restart) do postfix reload? yes, but You should check state (svcs postfix) after. "maintenance" means a problem with the configuration. Anything else you might want to add as advice for me at this point? I'm basically trying to do the simple single domain server as in Chapter 3 in The Book Of Postfix by Hildebrandt and Koetter. FAQ's and HowTo's, excellent docs: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html In my configuration: postfix from pkgsrc with dovecot: smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot virtual domain|maildir|alias = postgres greylisting and spf dspam (with dovecot - spam tagging per user) and roundcube as webmail. I don't use spamassassin anymore. Too complicated in maintenance. Good luck! -- Jacek Kotlarski JID:szu...@jabber.k-informatix.com;GG:2052377;Skype:jkotlarski ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help, please! Starting to use postfix in an OI151_a5 environment, from scratch
Hans,
Unfortunately, many programs expect /usr/bin/sendmail to work. That
means that you either have to keep sendmail running, or replace
/usr/lib/sendmail with the sendmail.postfix version. If you do the
latter, then any upgrade that includes sendmail will replace whatever
you put in /usr/lib/sendmail with what it expects.
I made a symbolic link from /usr/lib/sendmail to sendmail.postfix so
these programs work. Then I check to make sure this symbolic link wasn't
over-written when I upgrade OI. Most time it doesn't replace the
symbolic link, but occasionally it does.
I run aide to validate that non of the system files have changed, so I
can scan that after an update to see if any of my hacks need to be re-done.
Gary
On 7/16/12 8:47 AM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
Will the SFE postfix package actually REPLACE sendmail??
In my system, using the SFEpostfix package, there's a
/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
that's an executable, and
/usr/sbin/sendmail
which is a symlink to /usr/lib/sendmail.
There's also a symlink /usr/lib/sendmail.postfix that points to
/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
sum /usr/lib/sendmail is different from sum /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
so I assume your statement is only true for some other form of postfix
installation??
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Hans,
You have the basics right. The problem is that there is no clean way to
replace sendmail in OI yet. When you install postfix, it will overwrite
/usr/lib/sendmail.
Thanks for the below pointer. I actually missed that.
Besides disabling sendmail, you need to disable sendmail-client as
well. The refresh on postfix should cause it to reload the
configuration file.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help, please! Starting to use postfix in an OI151_a5 environment, from scratch
Will the SFE postfix package actually REPLACE sendmail??
In my system, using the SFEpostfix package, there's a
/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
that's an executable, and
/usr/sbin/sendmail
which is a symlink to /usr/lib/sendmail.
There's also a symlink /usr/lib/sendmail.postfix that points to
/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
sum /usr/lib/sendmail is different from sum /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix
so I assume your statement is only true for some other form of postfix
installation??
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:31:40 -0400
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Hans,
You have the basics right. The problem is that there is no clean way to
replace sendmail in OI yet. When you install postfix, it will overwrite
/usr/lib/sendmail.
Thanks for the below pointer. I actually missed that.
Besides disabling sendmail, you need to disable sendmail-client as
well. The refresh on postfix should cause it to reload the
configuration file.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help, please! Starting to use postfix in an OI151_a5 environment, from scratch
Hans, You have the basics right. The problem is that there is no clean way to replace sendmail in OI yet. When you install postfix, it will overwrite /usr/lib/sendmail. I actually have two replacements for sendmail, I use Qmail for non-authorized access on port 25 because of it's superior spam capabilities using the spamdyke front-end. I do have spamassassin on the backend to catch the few emails that get through, but that requires a patched version of Qmail. I use Postfix for authorized access on port 587 (submission) for users which has no spam checking and allows relaying. BTW, the only bad thing about using Qmail this way is that it rejects mail to non-existent users later on in the process using a bounce message. This opens the door for backscatter spam (using the bounce to send spam). Spamdyke reduces this possibility, but hasn't implemented a true block for this (reject bad users before accepting mail) yet. This is in the works. What I do is to take the time to backup the /usr/lib/sendmail for all three programs and then do a symbolic link to the one needed (in my case it's postfix). The reason I do this is that, since sendmail is part of the consolidation, this binary is sometimes overwritten when you upgrade OI. There is a plan somewhere to handle wholesale replacement of sendmail with another MTA better, but I don't know what the current state is. Besides disabling sendmail, you need to disable sendmail-client as well. The refresh on postfix should cause it to reload the configuration file. As for dovecot (and qmail), I've been using that for so long (starting with SunOS), that I always compiled and installed it myself. Some day I'll replace dovecot with the SFE version, but I'm in no rush. Gary On 7/16/12 7:58 AM, Hans J. Albertsson wrote: I am in the process of starting up a mailserver for about a thousand mail users. This is on an OI151_a5 server. I will use postfix, dovecot and spamassassin, possibly clamav. I am right now doing a test setup, sort of a proof of concept. My problem is that all the documentation for dovecot and postfix is NOT very specific to an OI installation, so I need some help in understanding where OI differs from what postfix and dovecot docs assume. Today's first question: OI has the SMF stuff: this confuses some issues. I assume I'm first supposed to configure the various params for postfix, like myhostname, myorigin, mydomain plus many more. Then I'm supposing I should do # svcadm disable sendmail # svcadm enable postfix (consider "# " as the root prompt) Is this correct? Will this do postfix start for me, and will "svcadm refresh postfix" (or restart) do postfix reload? Anything else you might want to add as advice for me at this point? I'm basically trying to do the simple single domain server as in Chapter 3 in The Book Of Postfix by Hildebrandt and Koetter. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
