Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Harry Putnam writes: Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru writes: And while there is truly a wealth of info available on google, its shear amount by itself becomes a new problem. It means there are piles and piles of junk too. Seems like its getting harder to find stuff to me. You are absolutely correct. In the beginning of the internet, without WWW, there were ftp servers and mailing lists. Usually one list for one topic. Now, you have to sift through tons and tons of rubble to find that one nugget. The upside is that now there are many many more people interested in and knowledgeable on any given topic -- so the likelyhood to find at least *something* is much higher. :-) Best regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
On 19/04/2014 11:43, Volker A. Brandt wrote: Harry Putnam writes: Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru writes: And while there is truly a wealth of info available on google, its shear amount by itself becomes a new problem. It means there are piles and piles of junk too. Seems like its getting harder to find stuff to me. You are absolutely correct. In the beginning of the internet, without WWW, there were ftp servers and mailing lists. Don't forget Gopher and WAIS, the early incarnations of the WWW... ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
17 апреля 2014 г. 21:11:20 CEST, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com пишет: A little off topic because of running as guest in vbox on windows 7 64bit. I've done two installs of oi -b 151_a8. Both since updated to 151_9, but the phenomena was there right from the start. Once the install is over during the first round of settings I have found that one vm has possible highest Screen res Setting of: 1440 x 1050 While the other install has a highest setting of only: 1280 x 1024 I've asked on the vbox list, and done some digging in vbox docs trying to see if screen res is something vbox can effect. But found no reason to thing so. Apparently its a factor of the OS. Can anyone offer a clue or guess why screen res is lower on one install? Can anyone offer any ideas about how to get higher screen res. I have tried adjusting the amount of (video) memory Vbox allows under its 'Display' settings trying the default... which I now have forgotten but definitely below 50mb. I have tried boosting (video) memory to 50mb and to 75mb without seeing any noticeable effect at all. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss Hi, I've seen similar behavior with guest tools installed - the ms-windows window size for virtualbox is then offered as one of the options for the vm screen resolution. In fact, with two screens (laptop + external) my oi vm running under windows offers two displays of corresponding resolution, which I can then make seamless with the host os - pretty neat ;) Given that windows has better hardware support for anything on this laptop - lan, wifi, video, usb, hibernation... - this is probably the setup which will stick on a new laptop at work. Even though OI was installed into a partition and can dual-boot into a native 'physical' os - it is just too feature-poor interfacing with the real physical world for any usability natively ;( And given that i am not a kernel/driver developer and in the end a computer and its OS are tools to get the official job done... well... i'd rather have to use whatever works and does not impede my job. Even though a native oi might be more suitable than one in the vm. Might yet settle on physical linux, like the rest of the team did, though... -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
I have exactly the same question. OI allows me to select maximum resolution of 1024x768 only. LCD monitor has slightly better resolution (1152x1024?). The monitor has a VGA connector, and videocard has a DVI. I believe that my videocard is capable of supporting much higher resolutions than 1024x768 (some nVidia, cannot remember exact model, I am now away from my server). Monitor is plugged via DVI-VGA adapter, and likely this is why OI cannot recognize monitor model (recognizes as generic monitor). nVidia card is recognized. How can I convince OI to set higher resolution? Can anyone offer any ideas about how to get higher screen res. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Dmitry Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com writes: I have exactly the same question. OI allows me to select maximum resolution of 1024x768 only. LCD monitor has slightly better resolution (1152x1024?). The monitor has a VGA connector, and videocard has a DVI. I believe that my videocard is capable of supporting much higher resolutions than 1024x768 (some nVidia, cannot remember exact model, I am now away from my server). Monitor is plugged via DVI-VGA adapter, and likely this is why OI cannot recognize monitor model (recognizes as generic monitor). nVidia card is recognized. How can I convince OI to set higher resolution? Can anyone offer any ideas about how to get higher screen res. I have no technical knowledge of how the vm interplay's with the host OS or hardware. But, I can tell you that since I posted my question, I did discover that one of the vms I spoke of had not had the guest additions installed. My faulty memory told me it had, but on installing the latest additions I found the vm (vm2) that had the lower res now went up to the higher res available on vm1. So not sure what makes that happen but guessing a newer more robust video driver in the additions. So cutting to the chase; you might make sure the vm of yours with low res, has had the latest guest additions installed. If you have an older version installed you can remove it with `pkgrm SUNWvboxguest' before installing the current version. A small note on version: It is a total pain in the neck to discover what version of guest additions is running. I never did get it figured out. I found nifty commands on linux that will show it (lsmod) but that command is unknown on my OpenIndiana vm. None of the things I dreamed up worked and after pounding away at google for a good half hour I decided it wasn't worth the time and effort. I suggest just to uninstall the current package with cmd mentioned above and then install the pkg from vbox-4.3.10 r93012. Far as I know that is the most recent release and will have the most recent additions. You probably have all this covered but for completeness: Install additions: on vbox vm GUI interface: `Devices/Install guest additions cd image' Force unmount if necessary in dialog resulting from above menu item. cd as root (if you go there as user and try to use sudo it will fail. I never bothered with pfexec so not sure if that would work either): cd /media/VBOX* pkgadd -d ./VBoxSolarisAdditions.pkg Follow the prompts from there. Let us know if any of this helped. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru writes: [...] And given that i am not a kernel/driver developer and in the end a computer and its OS are tools to get the official job done... well... i'd rather have to use whatever works and does not impede my job. Even though a native oi might be more suitable than one in the vm. Might yet settle on physical linux, like the rest of the team did, though... Not sure I understand you there... Do you mean work with vm guest on a linux HOST is what most devs do? I've often wondered why the console of OI has never been developed beyond about 1990s. It is more primitive still than my first forays into linux around 1996. The linux console has developed a good bit since then and can be a serious env for serious work... where as the OI console is a flat out pain in the keester... making the gui nearly a necessity. No doubt, someone will invite me to take up its improvement... and I guess it's a good point... except that my skill level would not allow it. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
18 апреля 2014 г. 17:28:46 CEST, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com пишет: Dmitry Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com writes: I have exactly the same question. OI allows me to select maximum resolution of 1024x768 only. LCD monitor has slightly better resolution (1152x1024?). The monitor has a VGA connector, and videocard has a DVI. I believe that my videocard is capable of supporting much higher resolutions than 1024x768 (some nVidia, cannot remember exact model, I am now away from my server). Monitor is plugged via DVI-VGA adapter, and likely this is why OI cannot recognize monitor model (recognizes as generic monitor). nVidia card is recognized. How can I convince OI to set higher resolution? Can anyone offer any ideas about how to get higher screen res. I have no technical knowledge of how the vm interplay's with the host OS or hardware. But, I can tell you that since I posted my question, I did discover that one of the vms I spoke of had not had the guest additions installed. My faulty memory told me it had, but on installing the latest additions I found the vm (vm2) that had the lower res now went up to the higher res available on vm1. So not sure what makes that happen but guessing a newer more robust video driver in the additions. So cutting to the chase; you might make sure the vm of yours with low res, has had the latest guest additions installed. If you have an older version installed you can remove it with `pkgrm SUNWvboxguest' before installing the current version. A small note on version: It is a total pain in the neck to discover what version of guest additions is running. I never did get it figured out. I found nifty commands on linux that will show it (lsmod) but that command is unknown on my OpenIndiana vm. None of the things I dreamed up worked and after pounding away at google for a good half hour I decided it wasn't worth the time and effort. I suggest just to uninstall the current package with cmd mentioned above and then install the pkg from vbox-4.3.10 r93012. Far as I know that is the most recent release and will have the most recent additions. You probably have all this covered but for completeness: Install additions: on vbox vm GUI interface: `Devices/Install guest additions cd image' Force unmount if necessary in dialog resulting from above menu item. cd as root (if you go there as user and try to use sudo it will fail. I never bothered with pfexec so not sure if that would work either): cd /media/VBOX* pkgadd -d ./VBoxSolarisAdditions.pkg Follow the prompts from there. Let us know if any of this helped. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss modinfo | grep box -- Typos courtesy of K-9 Mail on my Samsung Android ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Jim Klimov writes: 18 апреля 2014 г. 17:28:46 CEST, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com пишет: A small note on version: It is a total pain in the neck to discover what version of guest additions is running. I never did get it figured out. I found nifty commands on linux that will show it (lsmod) but that command is unknown on my OpenIndiana vm. Because OpenIndiana is not Linux :-) modinfo | grep box Or just: pkginfo -l SUNWvboxguest Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Harry Putnam writes: I've often wondered why the console of OI has never been developed beyond about 1990s. It is more primitive still than my first forays into linux around 1996. The linux console has developed a good bit since then and can be a serious env for serious work... where as the OI console is a flat out pain in the keester... making the gui nearly a necessity. I disagree. What exactly are you missing in the OI text console? Regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Sorry if my question was misleading. The original post by Harry Putnam was regarding a vbox vm. My question though is about bare metal server. But the question is the same: How to get higher screen resolution? OI limits me to 1024x768 for some reason, while nVidia card can give more. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
FWIW I'm running OI 151a8 at 1200x1600 portrait mode using the nVidia driver. I suspect that the real issue is whether the installer recognizes the graphics card. I make a point of keeping xorg.conf files for my systems on a USB flash drive for easy access when this happens. On Fri, 4/18/14, Dmitry Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Date: Friday, April 18, 2014, 11:55 AM Sorry if my question was misleading. The original post by Harry Putnam was regarding a vbox vm. My question though is about bare metal server. But the question is the same: How to get higher screen resolution? OI limits me to 1024x768 for some reason, while nVidia card can give more. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Identical Installs but different screen Res
Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru writes: [...] modinfo | grep box [...] v...@bb-c.de (Volker A. Brandt) writes: Jim Klimov writes: 18 апреля 2014 г. 17:28:46 CEST, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com пишет: A small note on version: It is a total pain in the neck to discover what version of guest additions is running. I never did get it figured out. I found nifty commands on linux that will show it (lsmod) but that command is unknown on my OpenIndiana vm. Because OpenIndiana is not Linux :-) Hehe ... can't argue there. modinfo | grep box Or just: pkginfo -l SUNWvboxguest Nicer and nicer ... thank you both. I will admit my google skills are not the highest... but I did spend long enough on google to find 4 other posters arrayed over about 10 years who could not find an easy way to learn the version either. Even that took at least a half hour. Man page skills not terrific either since I spent a bit of time on several of the pkg[whatever] cmds looking for the very thing that Volker B posted. Seems I always flunk out by not having the super clever search strings in firefox on google or with the '/' key in man pages. I become doubtful of my pea brain when a helpful poster shows a one search hit that completely satisfies whatever I was asking about in rich depth and completeness And while there is truly a wealth of info available on google, its shear amount by itself becomes a new problem. It means there are piles and piles of junk too. Seems like its getting harder to find stuff to me. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
