Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 04/28/15 08:44 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

So the desktop will stay alive until sunrays are finally eol-ed?


Are you asking about OpenIndiana or Oracle Solaris?

At this time we have no plans to EOL the Oracle Solaris desktop - it's
what our developers still use, as well as some of our customers, but I
cannot speak on behalf of my employer nor make any formal commitments
there - speak to a sales rep if you need those.

As for OpenIndiana, as an observer, it seems about as healthy as the
rest of the OI project.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Udo Grabowski (IMK)]

On 28/04/2015 16:58, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

Is the desktop dying, then?


Solaris still actively delivers and develops the desktop part,
that means, the spec files are current state. No, that does
not depend on Sun rays, they are EOL already...

Alexander compiles at least parts of X11 for /hipster, so he
has a working scheme how to build it there.
Milan Jurik has the full JDS as delivered in /dev oi151a9, but
sadly, has retired from work. This would be the one you need
to reproduce firefox as build by Oracle, as that relies (on
basis of the Sun spec files) on Sunstudio compiled libraries.
But if the Sun spec files are now build against newer Studio
releases than 12.1 (which Milan used), they may lack now patches
necessary for the older compiler.
Since I suspect you want (and better) build with gcc against
the /hipster release, the Oracle spec files are only a guideline,
as gcc probably doesn't need all the patches there (or different
variants). So I think the best start is to build firefox with
gcc on /hipster, and sort out those patches from Sun that are
Studio-specific and keep those for Solaris peculiarities and
try repeated build/test cycles, until you have it stable.
Aristopoulos has gone this way, and seems to be quite near
a working firefox for /hipster.

For now, it may be possible to gather all CC Studio compiled
libraries firefox needs (not that much, as most of the stuff
is clean C that should be interchangeable between compilers)
from oi151a9, collect them in a single directory on /hipster,
'env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/that_directory firefox', and the Oracle
delivered firefox should work as expected (apart from
libstdc++.so.6 and libgcc_s.so.1, which may be need to be
drawn from omniOS, since there's something wrong with them
on oi151 since a while, I need that workaround for MongoDB).

For the long run, the desktop situation is quite bad for OI,
it may be working for a while to just keep the existing
stuff (which is not that bad) with the given build system
(if someone understands and maintains it), but further
development needs a capable expert for that huge batch, which
we currently don't have after Milan resigned.
At least working firefox/thunderbird packages would be a
relief and may carry us a few years forward.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Hans J Albertsson]

I know, but they're still supported, incl patches, for  2 more years.

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5
Den 28 apr 2015 18:05 skrev "Jonathan Adams" :

> Sorry to tell you this but sunrays _are_ eol-ed.
>
>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/sunrayproducts/overview/index.html
>
> " *IMPORTANT NOTE*: Sun Ray Client hardware, Peripheral Kits, and Smart
> Cards have been discontinued and are no longer available for purchase. Sun
> Ray Software and Oracle Virtual Desktop Infrastructure software licenses,
> and Premier Support for hardware and software will continue to be available
> until 2017. Refer to this document for further details.
>
> *(Last updated Mar. 4, 2014)."*
> that's not to say that it has stopped working, because it hasn't, but you
> cannot get new SunRays (if you ever could get a salesman at Sun/Oracle to
> sell you them) and as far as Oracle is concerned they are dead.
>
> Jon
>
> On 28 April 2015 at 16:44, Hans J Albertsson 
> wrote:
>
> > So the desktop will stay alive until sunrays are finally eol-ed?
> >
> >
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Jonathan Adams]

Sorry to tell you this but sunrays _are_ eol-ed.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/sunrayproducts/overview/index.html

" *IMPORTANT NOTE*: Sun Ray Client hardware, Peripheral Kits, and Smart
Cards have been discontinued and are no longer available for purchase. Sun
Ray Software and Oracle Virtual Desktop Infrastructure software licenses,
and Premier Support for hardware and software will continue to be available
until 2017. Refer to this document for further details.

*(Last updated Mar. 4, 2014)."*
that's not to say that it has stopped working, because it hasn't, but you
cannot get new SunRays (if you ever could get a salesman at Sun/Oracle to
sell you them) and as far as Oracle is concerned they are dead.

Jon

On 28 April 2015 at 16:44, Hans J Albertsson 
wrote:

> So the desktop will stay alive until sunrays are finally eol-ed?
>
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Hans J Albertsson]

So the desktop will stay alive until sunrays are finally eol-ed?

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5
Den 28 apr 2015 17:14 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" :

> I meant that no one had paid attention to updating the web pages and
> instructions for external people to build the desktop since OpenSolaris
> died.  The only reason that page exists is because I migrated it from
> OpenSolaris - no one else cared to, and no one else seems to notice if
> I update the hg repo or not.
>
> -alan-
>
> On 04/28/15 07:58 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>
>> Is the desktop dying, then?
>>
>> Hans J. Albertsson
>>  From my Nexus 5
>>
>> Den 28 apr 2015 16:52 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" <
>> alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>> >:
>>
>> There's still some info on
>> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/pages/Building
>> though I have no idea how useful or current it is, since no one has
>> been paying
>> attention to it since OpenSolaris died.
>>
>>  -alan-
>>
>> On 04/28/15 01:06 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>>
>> So I need to learn about spec files, mercurial and how to find my
>> way
>> around the
>> Solaris desktop source code..
>>
>> Can you suggest where to go for tutorials and docs?
>>
>> Hans J. Albertsson
>>   From my Nexus 5
>>
>> Den 28 apr 2015 08:54 skrev "Alan Coopersmith"
>> mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>
>>  alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>>>:
>>
>>  On 04/27/15 11:48 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>>
>>  I suppose they're all under "patches"?
>>
>>
>>  Yes.
>>
>>  Are there any patches for Firefox 31.6?
>>
>>
>>  Solaris isn't shipping 31.6 yet, but there are patches for
>> 31.1 there.
>>  You'll need to check the firefox.spec file to find out
>> what's applied,
>>  since the version numbers in the patch names are often
>> meaningless,
>> since
>>  the patches didn't get renamed when carried forward to new
>> versions.
>>
>>  You might find it easier to browse the version at:
>> https://hg.java.net/hg/solaris-desktop~spec-files
>>  or you can hg clone it to look through locally.
>>
>>  --
>>   -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>> 
>>  > >
>>Oracle Solaris Engineering -
>> http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>> 
>>   Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc
>>
>>
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[DraganFOSS]

On 04/28/15 04:58 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

Is the desktop dying, then?


I don't know about you, but my desktop is very lively ;)
--
root@hipster-oi:~# pkg info system/kernel
  Name: system/kernel
   Summary: Core Solaris Kernel
   Description: core kernel software for a specific instruction-set 
architecture

  Category: System/Core
 State: Installed
 Publisher: openindiana.org
   Version: 0.5.11
Branch: 2015.0.1.15039
Packaging Date: April 27, 2015 01:22:39 PM
  Size: 41.98 MB
  FMRI: 
pkg://openindiana.org/system/kernel@0.5.11-2015.0.1.15039:20150427T132239Z

---


About Ffox: i'm using version 31 ... quite stable, from
http://unixpackages.com/packages/mozilla

Also, I prefer the tar archive instead of the typical 
installation..unpack in a folder of your choice and you started from there


Btw, about:buildconfig is useful info


Build Machine

jdsbld14
Build platform
target
i386-pc-solaris2.11
Build tools
CompilerVersion Compiler flags
/opt/solarisstudio12.3.rsync/bin/cc Sun C 5.12 SunOS_i386 Patch 148918-07 
2013/08/22-I/usr/X11/include -D__FUNC__=__func__ -xlibmieee -xstrconst 
-xbuiltin=%all -D__FUNCTION__=__func__ -mt
/opt/solarisstudio12.3.rsync/bin/CC Sun C++ 5.12 SunOS_i386 Patch 148509-13 
2013/08/22  -xlibmil -xlibmopt -lCrun -lCstd 
-features=tmplrefstatic,no%except -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D__EXTENSIONS__ 
-template=no%extdef -xlibmieee -xbuiltin=%all 
-features=tmplife,tmplrefstatic,extensions,no%except -norunpath 
-D__FUNCTION__=__func__ -template=no%extdef -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 
-D__EXTENSIONS__ -xannotate=no -mt -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -xO4
Configure arguments

--enable-application=browser --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib 
--mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-official-branding --enable-updater 
--enable-debug-symbols=no --enable-update-packaging 
--enable-update-channel=release --disable-tests --enable-jemalloc 
--enable-dtrace --enable-xinerama --disable-crashreporter --disable-pulseaudio 
--disable-gstreamer --without-intl-api --enable-ipc







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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Alan Coopersmith]

I meant that no one had paid attention to updating the web pages and 
instructions for external people to build the desktop since OpenSolaris

died.  The only reason that page exists is because I migrated it from
OpenSolaris - no one else cared to, and no one else seems to notice if
I update the hg repo or not.

-alan-

On 04/28/15 07:58 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

Is the desktop dying, then?

Hans J. Albertsson
 From my Nexus 5

Den 28 apr 2015 16:52 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>>:

There's still some info on
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/pages/Building
though I have no idea how useful or current it is, since no one has been 
paying
attention to it since OpenSolaris died.

 -alan-

On 04/28/15 01:06 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

So I need to learn about spec files, mercurial and how to find my way
around the
Solaris desktop source code..

Can you suggest where to go for tutorials and docs?

Hans J. Albertsson
  From my Nexus 5

Den 28 apr 2015 08:54 skrev "Alan Coopersmith"
mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>
>>:

 On 04/27/15 11:48 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

 I suppose they're all under "patches"?


 Yes.

 Are there any patches for Firefox 31.6?


 Solaris isn't shipping 31.6 yet, but there are patches for 31.1 
there.
 You'll need to check the firefox.spec file to find out what's 
applied,
 since the version numbers in the patch names are often meaningless,
since
 the patches didn't get renamed when carried forward to new 
versions.

 You might find it easier to browse the version at:
https://hg.java.net/hg/solaris-desktop~spec-files
 or you can hg clone it to look through locally.

 --
  -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com

 >
   Oracle Solaris Engineering - 
http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Hans J Albertsson]

Is the desktop dying, then?

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5
Den 28 apr 2015 16:52 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" :

> There's still some info on
> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/pages/Building
> though I have no idea how useful or current it is, since no one has been
> paying
> attention to it since OpenSolaris died.
>
> -alan-
>
> On 04/28/15 01:06 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>
>> So I need to learn about spec files, mercurial and how to find my way
>> around the
>> Solaris desktop source code..
>>
>> Can you suggest where to go for tutorials and docs?
>>
>> Hans J. Albertsson
>>  From my Nexus 5
>>
>> Den 28 apr 2015 08:54 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" <
>> alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>> >:
>>
>> On 04/27/15 11:48 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>>
>> I suppose they're all under "patches"?
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Are there any patches for Firefox 31.6?
>>
>>
>> Solaris isn't shipping 31.6 yet, but there are patches for 31.1 there.
>> You'll need to check the firefox.spec file to find out what's applied,
>> since the version numbers in the patch names are often meaningless,
>> since
>> the patches didn't get renamed when carried forward to new versions.
>>
>> You might find it easier to browse the version at:
>> https://hg.java.net/hg/solaris-desktop~spec-files
>> or you can hg clone it to look through locally.
>>
>> --
>>  -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>> 
>>   Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc
>>
>>
>
> --
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>  Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Alan Coopersmith]

There's still some info on
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/pages/Building
though I have no idea how useful or current it is, since no one has been paying
attention to it since OpenSolaris died.

-alan-

On 04/28/15 01:06 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

So I need to learn about spec files, mercurial and how to find my way around the
Solaris desktop source code..

Can you suggest where to go for tutorials and docs?

Hans J. Albertsson
 From my Nexus 5

Den 28 apr 2015 08:54 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" mailto:alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>>:

On 04/27/15 11:48 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

I suppose they're all under "patches"?


Yes.

Are there any patches for Firefox 31.6?


Solaris isn't shipping 31.6 yet, but there are patches for 31.1 there.
You'll need to check the firefox.spec file to find out what's applied,
since the version numbers in the patch names are often meaningless, since
the patches didn't get renamed when carried forward to new versions.

You might find it easier to browse the version at:
https://hg.java.net/hg/solaris-desktop~spec-files
or you can hg clone it to look through locally.

--
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  Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc




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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 04/27/15 11:48 PM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

I suppose they're all under "patches"?


Yes.


Are there any patches for Firefox 31.6?


Solaris isn't shipping 31.6 yet, but there are patches for 31.1 there.
You'll need to check the firefox.spec file to find out what's applied,
since the version numbers in the patch names are often meaningless, since
the patches didn't get renamed when carried forward to new versions.

You might find it easier to browse the version at:
https://hg.java.net/hg/solaris-desktop~spec-files
or you can hg clone it to look through locally.

--
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 Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Hans J Albertsson]

I suppose they're all under "patches"? Are there any patches for Firefox
31.6? Can't find them if there are.

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5
Den 27 apr 2015 20:46 skrev "Hans J Albertsson" :

> Thanks
>
> Hans J. Albertsson
> From my Nexus 5
> Den 27 apr 2015 20:41 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" <
> alan.coopersm...@oracle.com>:
>
>> On 4/27/2015 11:26 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>>
>>> I seem to remember somebody talking about somewhere on the web where
>>> Oracle/Sun leaves patches for Firefox.
>>>
>>> But I can't find it. Was I dreaming or does that place exist?
>>>
>>
>> They are part of the Solaris Desktop source repository:
>> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/show
>>
>> -alan-
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Hans J Albertsson]

Thanks

Hans J. Albertsson
>From my Nexus 5
Den 27 apr 2015 20:41 skrev "Alan Coopersmith" :

> On 4/27/2015 11:26 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember somebody talking about somewhere on the web where
>> Oracle/Sun leaves patches for Firefox.
>>
>> But I can't find it. Was I dreaming or does that place exist?
>>
>
> They are part of the Solaris Desktop source repository:
> https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/show
>
> -alan-
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Oracle Firefox patches for Solaris, where?

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 4/27/2015 11:26 AM, Hans J Albertsson wrote:

I seem to remember somebody talking about somewhere on the web where
Oracle/Sun leaves patches for Firefox.

But I can't find it. Was I dreaming or does that place exist?


They are part of the Solaris Desktop source repository:
https://java.net/projects/solaris-desktop/sources/spec-files/show

-alan-

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