Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
Hi Martin! These screens look very nice indeed!! Looking forward to trying out your distribution on my E4500. :-) However, I prefer quality. So if we need to wait a few days more until everything is finished, that is fine with me. Best regards -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: Hi Martin! These screens look very nice indeed!! Looking forward to trying out your distribution on my E4500. :-) However, I prefer quality. So if we need to wait a few days more until everything is finished, that is fine with me. Hi Volker, glad to see your friendly feedback, once again. As of quality: The iso is kept unchanged for 2 weeks. As nobody from either OI or Illumos has _ever_ offered me any upload link (did I overlook sth?), I once again asked Al Hopper for help - and: Of course he does more than I imagined to get the zone running. He deserves a HUGE place in the Credits section ... Since then I tested it on all 23 sun4u and sun4v systems I own, plus on every frame buffer / system combination. (most my systems have at least 2, but up to 6 fb's). During the old days of Xorg based FOX, as little as 3% of these combinations would work, and if at all, then only unstable. Now with openXsun (thanks again to Alan Coopersmith) plus with my patches (that's why it took over a month) ... EVERY combination just works! And that's so good, it is unbelievable to myself, everytime I experience this ))) It is damn annoying, that the yt video was too large. It is the first video that I uploaded since 2008 and I had thought, the 10MB restriction has gone. Not so? I convert my videos in VirtualBox on a 2.4GHz DualCore Celeron running Solaris. It takes quite long to convert this stuff and upload it. Till tomorrow (with the video). Hopefully I get the page ready until Saturday, enabling you to test it on the weekend. If somebody wants it really urgently: Please contact Al Hopper. 2 weeks ago I uploaded the iso to his Amazon cloud that he set up for me. I see no reason, why your E4500 shouldn't work. But your testing is awaited. rgds. %martin https://twitter.com/MartinBochnig ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
Hi Martin! As of quality: The iso is kept unchanged for 2 weeks. As nobody from either OI or Illumos has _ever_ offered me any upload link (did I overlook sth?) I think this was more a communications problem. For example, it was not clear to me that you were *waiting* for someone to give you a link. I myself have a server that I could park the ISO image on. However, I cannot offer it for public distribution on a permanent basis. So, please clarify what the current situation is, and what kind of help you need. Does renaming it to Martux mean you do not want your ISO to be distributed by OpenIndiana people? Surely someone could host your ISO on one of these sites: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Mirrors Have you mailed oi-infra@ (CC'ed above)? About videos: To be honest, I do not care much for videos, I want the real thing! :-) Cheers -- Volker -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Oracle Solaris Brandt Brandt Computer GmbH WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/ Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim, GERMANYEmail: v...@bb-c.de Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513 Schuhgröße: 46 Geschäftsführer: Rainer J.H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
Hi Martin, I have 4 sparc processors TIIIi and some memory laying here, waiting for someone. I'd like do donate them to you if you like. Just to appreciate your work. Are you interested? Kind regards, The out-side Op 27 sep. 2012 om 09:59 heeft Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org het volgende geschreven: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: Hi Martin! As of quality: The iso is kept unchanged for 2 weeks. As nobody from either OI or Illumos has _ever_ offered me any upload link (did I overlook sth?) I think this was more a communications problem. For example, it was not clear to me that you were *waiting* for someone to give you a link. I myself have a server that I could park the ISO image on. However, I cannot offer it for public distribution on a permanent basis. So, please clarify what the current situation is, and what kind of help you need. Does renaming it to Martux mean you do not want your ISO to be distributed by OpenIndiana people? Surely someone could host your ISO on one of these sites: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Mirrors Have you mailed oi-infra@ (CC'ed above)? Hi, no, why should I care? I have offered to create everything completely under their name. Maybe they could have contacted me ... ??? I mean: THE LEADER(S), rather than interested users. Their leader didn't even warn me in advance, that he was going to resign. Nobody of the leaders contacted me. But it doesn't matter. Actually I feel better with the dual naming. As it is - at least at this point - just a flavour of MartUX. Just like the Blastwave edition that I created way back in 2006 for x86: http://martux.org/RELEASES/x86_and_x64/DVD/ The few things that I used from openindiana are more or less identical to Sun/Oracle upstream (with little modification). The most valuable thing that I actually used from oi was their documentation about IPS! However, this LiveDVD doesn't even contain any IPS data. The best thing of that DVD is openXsun with my new patches. I wanted to push everything into their gates, later. But as I said: If you build a house and you spent all your hours and $$$ on it, would you want to donate it to strangers on the first day? I have missed a lot in my life, because of these damn SPARC boxes all over the place, in my small apartment. And I never earned a penny with them. I hope that it can be understood, that I want to keep at least the name MartUX alive. Redistribution is of course ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGED and APPRECIATED. And the openXsun src will also be published. But rather than simply merging it into OI (where it gets lost), it shall get its own external home. In order for it to survive, if somebody resigns because he suddenly thinks, Linux is faster and better. Or if somebody else wants a new reference distro. This sadly reminds me of the 2007 horror. Belenix would have earned to be the reference distro! Instead Sun has taken all their ideas, added a few bad ideas to them and re-branded the mix as indIANa ... Forgive me these critical words. But I have spent half of my life (and $$$) for SPARC-gfx. And somehow I struggle to survive, because I never had time to learn how one would earn $$$ if one had time. Because the Xorg (plus enhancing libpciinfo, libdevinfo) drivers testing was an inbelievable time killer. If somebody can give me sftp access I can upload the iso itself INSTANTLY. You can freely re-distribute it wherever you like. I'm back online in about 5 hours. Then the upload can start. Will then take about 11 hours (from my DSL link). rgds. %martin ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
2012-09-10 18:33, Gary Gendel wrote: I've got an enterprise 450 (Sparc II), with a PGX graphics card and a bum HME nic so I use a fiberchannel card currently running Solaris 10 using zfs root. I'll pitch in to test openindiana if I can create a separate BE rather than blow Solaris 10 away (which I actually use to build and test products for my company). I do have some extra disks that I can swap with the Solaris boot disks if needed. This coexistance ought to be doable. I have a (x86_64) server initially installed as OpenSolaris SXCE builds in the nineties, currently at snv_117, and I've just made a BE rootfs for OI in the common root pool (of an old ZFS version), and copied over the files from LiveCD with some manual work to turn this into a working system, as I detailed in the OI wiki: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+Manual+installation+of+OpenIndiana+from+LiveCD+media On this particular box I intended to complete the migration of the OS from SXCE to OI, so I had some fun importing and merging the /dev, /devices and many /etc/* components so that the final environment (networking setup with CrossBow nets, HDD numbering) would seem similar to the old OS, and for the most part this just worked - but the project is on hold at the moment, because migrating the local zones was not such a trivial operation as changing the global zone OS ;) Still, regarding coexistance of Solaris, SXCE and OI on the same rpool - this should be possible as long as you can avoid the installation wizards which wipe disks and make new pools. HTH, //Jim Klimov ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
On 09/10/2012 02:14 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: If you want all these bugs, rather that sill wait, pls. let me know. Then I can offer the current instable alpha version via dyndns. Screenshot.png (image/png) 590K Screenshot-1.png (image/png) 359K Screenshot-2.png (image/png) 364K p.s. I will not allow, that OI dies! If nobody else wants to keep it alive, I will ensure that we can run the servers from my home. Can switch from 20MBit to VDSL 50MBit. If illumos wants another reference distro, I do not care. We here will keep OI alive, okay? ;-) Hi Martin, While I cannot test the fruits of your work myself (I don't have a graphical SPARC workstation), I'm sure at least the project hosting can be taken to OI's hosting provider, so that you don't have to burden your home connection with uploads of gigabytes worth of data. The OI community also has plenty of hosting options should you need them (if you want my help, contact me via private e-mail, I have quite a few personal hosting resources I could throw on this). Cheers, -- Saso ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012, Martin Bochnig wrote: Dear SPARC fellows, I apologize the repeated delays. If you fix a, b and c you forget that this breaks d. SMF complicated life (instead of making it easier). And creating a new 10GB solaris and gzip-9 compress it to 3GB takes 6 hours (and I consider this quick). Just don't gzip -9, it's way too much cpu usage for no significant reduction in size, especially on a sparc box. Something like gzip -5 is enough. Thanks for the good work, I can test on a v440 if it's ready. Michael ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
On 09/10/2012 02:14 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: And creating a new 10GB solaris and gzip-9 compress it to 3GB takes 6 hours (and I consider this quick). One more thing: anything above gzip -6 is placebo. Please see https://www.illumos.org/attachments/726/lz4_compression_bench.ods for a quick reference. I recommend either gzip -3 or switch to something faster (if you don't mind some wasted bits). Cheers, -- Saso ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
Great work, great intentions! Thank you! On 10.09.2012 18:14, Martin Bochnig wrote: p.s. I will not allow, that OI dies! If nobody else wants to keep it alive, I will ensure ... We here will keep OI alive, okay? ;-) Cheers to all OI users, Martin ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
Sašo: Thank you. Hosting help will be very good in every case. I don't know if you are subscribed to the Illumos devel list. Garrett proposed, that OpenIndiana should no longer be Illumos' reference distro. That's what I meant. I finally found some appetite on Indiana, and now it gets dropped? I just think we folks will prevent that from happening :) Michael: Just don't gzip -9, it's way too much cpu usage for no significant reduction in size, especially on a sparc box. Something like gzip -5 is enough. I know, But on everything starting at 1GHz it is not that bad. The reason was: Of course I'm aware of the smaller compression ratios. But then DualLayer would be a requirement. If you like and if time allows, I can offer two versions of that ISO. One for DualLayer Media (with gzip-5) and the other for usual 4.7 GB (4.4GB) media. %martin ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SPARC-OpenIndiana Screenshots
I've got an enterprise 450 (Sparc II), with a PGX graphics card and a bum HME nic so I use a fiberchannel card currently running Solaris 10 using zfs root. I'll pitch in to test openindiana if I can create a separate BE rather than blow Solaris 10 away (which I actually use to build and test products for my company). I do have some extra disks that I can swap with the Solaris boot disks if needed. On 9/10/12 10:18 AM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: I have a Sun Blade 2500 (red, XVR-1200 graphics) available for testing, and I may be able to convince one of my colleagues to fire up a Sun Fire V240 that I gave him to try with this as well, if you like, Martin. There is still plenty of sun4u hardware out there that would love to test OI on. :) On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Dear SPARC fellows, I apologize the repeated delays. If you fix a, b and c you forget that this breaks d. SMF complicated life (instead of making it easier). And let's not talk about IPS ... Here some screenshots from just now. One of the recent annoying stoppers is or was, that JDS would _almost_ load fully, but then crash itself and therefore cause openXsun to stop. Some problem with the gnome-keyring daemon somehow not willing to communicate with dbus, although dbus is running fine, even svcs says that! Now I took 10 versions of solaris.zlib from a week ago and tried to nfs-mount it over /usr the the booted LiveDVD's ramdisk. And after some hours I found now one version, that works. But now Firefox loads, but you cannot enter any URL. And another problem: If I simply take a week-old version of solaris.zlib (/usr), then this removes the other workarounds from /usr, that I put in place durin the week. And creating a new 10GB solaris and gzip-9 compress it to 3GB takes 6 hours (and I consider this quick). The complexity of such an OS is quite deep. If you want all these bugs, rather that sill wait, pls. let me know. Then I can offer the current instable alpha version via dyndns. Screenshot.png (image/png) 590K Screenshot-1.png (image/png) 359K Screenshot-2.png (image/png) 364K p.s. I will not allow, that OI dies! If nobody else wants to keep it alive, I will ensure that we can run the servers from my home. Can switch from 20MBit to VDSL 50MBit. If illumos wants another reference distro, I do not care. We here will keep OI alive, okay? ;-) ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
