Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
The only obvious problem to voice for some of these conversations that if you're not there at the time it happens you lose out. Yeah, I agree with Mike on that. With e-mails at least we can have an interactive discussion without missing out on anything. Listening to a recorded MP3 (after the meeting is over) is like casting your vote after the election has already been lost. Not much fun... I'd at least like to see/hear what is going on, and the message lists are the best way to foster communication (across all time zones) and get the greatest amount of feedback. Just my 2 cents... Mark P.S. What is the status of Comms anyways? I would really love to see full Skype Audio/Video/VoIP/Phone support added, as well as whiteboard support added as well (if at all possible). On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:27 PM, dr scofield drscofi...@xyzzyxyzzy.netwrote: Mike Dickson wrote: The only obvious problem to voice for some of these conversations is that if you're not there at the time it happens you lose out. No way to archive them (easily) for historical purposes or simply for those who can't contribute at the time the conversation happens. Since in many cases these are design discussions I think there's benefit to that record. freeswitch can record/stream MP3... Of course there's a way around that. If you do a voice meeting just publish notes from the discussion. That will help to foster communication and increase the level of participation rather than be exclusionary. In that scenarios its a win-win for everyone. Mike On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 18:23 +, Charles Krinke wrote: Indeed, discussing these subjects with those on the opensim-dev mailing list in voice or text is to all of our mutual advantage. Many folks have complained to me of the way the money issue was handled and communication with the rest of the community is important to moving forward and helping credibility. Charles ___ Opensim-dev mailing listopensim-...@lists.berlios.dehttps://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- dr dirk husemann math computer science ibm zurich research lab RL: h...@zurich.ibm.com - +41 44 724 8573 - http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~hud/ SL: drscofi...@xyzzyxyzzy.net - http://xyzzyxyzzy.net/ ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Again, I agree with Charles. Would 8am PST work for everyone? Name the time and the place. I still think the best thing to do is use the message lists, to get the maximum amount of participation, but if we're going to schedule a meeting please let the list know where and when (and how). So that we can attend. Are you talking about 8am PST as in 10 minutes from now? If so, please let us know where the meeting is at, and how to attend. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Charles Krinke c...@pacbell.net wrote: Indeed, discussing these subjects with those on the opensim-dev mailing list in voice or text is to all of our mutual advantage. Many folks have complained to me of the way the money issue was handled and communication with the rest of the community is important to moving forward and helping credibility. Charles -- *From:* Cristina Videira Lopes lo...@ics.uci.edu *To:* opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2009 8:31:43 PM *Subject:* [Opensim-dev] voice meetings Another thing we could do to improve the state of comms would be to have voice meetings once in a while. I hate meetings as much as everyone else, but voice meetings tend to be much faster than email discussions back forth. Hey -- we could even use Freeswitch with a cool virtual world system I know called OpenSim! :-) I haven't tried installing it, but I can try to do it in one of the sims of the UCI Grid. These would be meetings for core only. As agenda for a possible first meeting to be held soon, I would propose - postmortem of the money issue process/action - pluginizing OpenSim servers - anything else anyone wants to bring up I know we're all in different time zones, so I'm not sure a synchronous meeting is feasible. Would 8am PST work for everyone? ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Voice meetings are especially useful for getting to know people and building trust relationship. -tommi ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
The only obvious problem to voice for some of these conversations is that if you're not there at the time it happens you lose out. No way to archive them (easily) for historical purposes or simply for those who can't contribute at the time the conversation happens. Since in many cases these are design discussions I think there's benefit to that record. Of course there's a way around that. If you do a voice meeting just publish notes from the discussion. That will help to foster communication and increase the level of participation rather than be exclusionary. In that scenarios its a win-win for everyone. Mike On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 18:23 +, Charles Krinke wrote: Indeed, discussing these subjects with those on the opensim-dev mailing list in voice or text is to all of our mutual advantage. Many folks have complained to me of the way the money issue was handled and communication with the rest of the community is important to moving forward and helping credibility. Charles ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Mike Dickson wrote: The only obvious problem to voice for some of these conversations is that if you're not there at the time it happens you lose out. No way to archive them (easily) for historical purposes or simply for those who can't contribute at the time the conversation happens. Since in many cases these are design discussions I think there's benefit to that record. freeswitch can record/stream MP3... Of course there's a way around that. If you do a voice meeting just publish notes from the discussion. That will help to foster communication and increase the level of participation rather than be exclusionary. In that scenarios its a win-win for everyone. Mike On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 18:23 +, Charles Krinke wrote: Indeed, discussing these subjects with those on the opensim-dev mailing list in voice or text is to all of our mutual advantage. Many folks have complained to me of the way the money issue was handled and communication with the rest of the community is important to moving forward and helping credibility. Charles ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev -- dr dirk husemann math computer science ibm zurich research lab RL: h...@zurich.ibm.com - +41 44 724 8573 - http://www.zurich.ibm.com/~hud/ SL: drscofi...@xyzzyxyzzy.net - http://xyzzyxyzzy.net/ ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Indeed, discussing these subjects with those on the opensim-dev mailing list in voice or text is to all of our mutual advantage. Many folks have complained to me of the way the money issue was handled and communication with the rest of the community is important to moving forward and helping credibility. Charles From: Cristina Videira Lopes lo...@ics.uci.edu To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:31:43 PM Subject: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings Another thing we could do to improve the state of comms would be to have voice meetings once in a while. I hate meetings as much as everyone else, but voice meetings tend to be much faster than email discussions back forth. Hey -- we could even use Freeswitch with a cool virtual world system I know called OpenSim! :-) I haven't tried installing it, but I can try to do it in one of the sims of the UCI Grid. These would be meetings for core only. As agenda for a possible first meeting to be held soon, I would propose - postmortem of the money issue process/action - pluginizing OpenSim servers - anything else anyone wants to bring up I know we're all in different time zones, so I'm not sure a synchronous meeting is feasible. Would 8am PST work for everyone? ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
[Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Another thing we could do to improve the state of comms would be to have voice meetings once in a while. I hate meetings as much as everyone else, but voice meetings tend to be much faster than email discussions back forth. Hey -- we could even use Freeswitch with a cool virtual world system I know called OpenSim! :-) I haven't tried installing it, but I can try to do it in one of the sims of the UCI Grid. These would be meetings for core only. As agenda for a possible first meeting to be held soon, I would propose - postmortem of the money issue process/action - pluginizing OpenSim servers - anything else anyone wants to bring up I know we're all in different time zones, so I'm not sure a synchronous meeting is feasible. Would 8am PST work for everyone? ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] voice meetings
Sorry, wrong email list again :-( oh well, not that important. Cristina Videira Lopes wrote: Another thing we could do to improve the state of comms would be to have voice meetings once in a while. I hate meetings as much as everyone else, but voice meetings tend to be much faster than email discussions back forth. Hey -- we could even use Freeswitch with a cool virtual world system I know called OpenSim! :-) I haven't tried installing it, but I can try to do it in one of the sims of the UCI Grid. These would be meetings for core only. As agenda for a possible first meeting to be held soon, I would propose - postmortem of the money issue process/action - pluginizing OpenSim servers - anything else anyone wants to bring up I know we're all in different time zones, so I'm not sure a synchronous meeting is feasible. Would 8am PST work for everyone? ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
