[OpenSocial] Re: App statistics.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Kaczor t.kaczmare...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I'm a newbie from Poland and this is my first post here. Maybe it won't be too precise but I'll try to be clear with my questions. I'm not even sure if I'm writing in a proper place for it but I hope yes :). I spent hours on searching for answers to the following questions but haven't found yet :(. Maybe for some of you they'll be a piece of cake. 1. I'm sure that it is somehow possible to measure the metrics of an app such as: number of users, number of installations, uninstallations and so on. But how to do it? Is it possible to 'be the admin' of the application, to see all the users from 'the sky'? Not as a regular user? Is there any way to get the statistics of an app? Most OpenSocial networks give you an admin panel for your app where you can get these statistics, also the OpenSocial spec allows for a install / remove pingback url in your gadget so you could monitor this on your own server too. This does of course only work if you are the actual owner of the app, some networks show how many users a app has in the gadget directory but that's often the only public info if you're not the app's author. 2. Does OpenSocial allow to build applications being SNS theirselves? I mean - can an application hosted on some SNS, let's say Orkut, gather some people together, so that they can become friends only in this app? Is it possible to create new types of relations, e.g. instead a friend of someone, to be the fan, enemy, lover, whatever? There really are no limits (beyond the ToS of the site) to what you could do in an app, however this would be constrained to the app it's self.. say that you create a new relationship type Book club buddy, you can show this relationship in the app it's self, but there is no way to tell the containing social network about these relationship types. So as long as that fits with your envisioned app design, yes no problem :) -- Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OpenSocial Application Development group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[OpenSocial] Re: App statistics.
Thank you very much, Chris. That's exactly what I was looking for and your answer is very positive from my point of view :). On 20 Wrz, 13:24, Chris Chabot chab...@google.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Kaczor t.kaczmare...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I'm a newbie from Poland and this is my first post here. Maybe it won't be too precise but I'll try to be clear with my questions. I'm not even sure if I'm writing in a proper place for it but I hope yes :). I spent hours on searching for answers to the following questions but haven't found yet :(. Maybe for some of you they'll be a piece of cake. 1. I'm sure that it is somehow possible to measure the metrics of an app such as: number of users, number of installations, uninstallations and so on. But how to do it? Is it possible to 'be the admin' of the application, to see all the users from 'the sky'? Not as a regular user? Is there any way to get the statistics of an app? Most OpenSocial networks give you an admin panel for your app where you can get these statistics, also the OpenSocial spec allows for a install / remove pingback url in your gadget so you could monitor this on your own server too. This does of course only work if you are the actual owner of the app, some networks show how many users a app has in the gadget directory but that's often the only public info if you're not the app's author. 2. Does OpenSocial allow to build applications being SNS theirselves? I mean - can an application hosted on some SNS, let's say Orkut, gather some people together, so that they can become friends only in this app? Is it possible to create new types of relations, e.g. instead a friend of someone, to be the fan, enemy, lover, whatever? There really are no limits (beyond the ToS of the site) to what you could do in an app, however this would be constrained to the app it's self.. say that you create a new relationship type Book club buddy, you can show this relationship in the app it's self, but there is no way to tell the containing social network about these relationship types. So as long as that fits with your envisioned app design, yes no problem :) -- Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OpenSocial Application Development group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[OpenSocial] Re: App statistics.
One more doubt. I'm reading APIs and just found all the fields that a Person object might have: http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Opensocial.Person_%28v0.9%29 So I don't know if I'm getting it right - I can use only these fields and I can't create new ones? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OpenSocial Application Development group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[OpenSocial] Re: App statistics.
Actually a lot of those fields won't even be supported by each social network. That isn't really a problem though as long as you collect store your own information on your own servers. You'd do this by doing a signed request to your server (using makeRequest: http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Introduction_to_makeRequest), and the owner view id's are included in that request, so you could easily store the user id + additional info in your db. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Kaczor t.kaczmare...@gmail.com wrote: One more doubt. I'm reading APIs and just found all the fields that a Person object might have: http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Opensocial.Person_%28v0.9%29 So I don't know if I'm getting it right - I can use only these fields and I can't create new ones? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OpenSocial Application Development group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[OpenSocial] Re: App statistics.
Thanks a lot again. I have to admit that I'm only just realizing how powerful OS is :). On 20 Wrz, 21:49, Chris Chabot chab...@google.com wrote: Actually a lot of those fields won't even be supported by each social network. That isn't really a problem though as long as you collect store your own information on your own servers. You'd do this by doing a signed request to your server (using makeRequest:http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Introduction_to_makeRequest), and the owner view id's are included in that request, so you could easily store the user id + additional info in your db. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Kaczor t.kaczmare...@gmail.com wrote: One more doubt. I'm reading APIs and just found all the fields that a Person object might have: http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Opensocial.Person_%28v0.9%29 So I don't know if I'm getting it right - I can use only these fields and I can't create new ones? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OpenSocial Application Development group. To post to this group, send email to opensocial-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to opensocial-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-api?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
