[orkut-developer] Re: Migrate URL APP orkut

2012-07-12 Thread Bruno Oliveira (Google)
Nope, URL migration is no longer supported, unfortunately.

Thank you!

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Bruno Oliveira (Google)

On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:15:34 PM UTC-3, Milton Mattos wrote:

 Hello,

 I want to migrate the url of my app, but accessing the page:

 http://sandbox.orkut.com/AppUrlMigrate.aspx

 Not working, you know you have a new url for migration?


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[orkut-developer] Re: robots.txt issue on orkut.com.br - blocking adsense crawler

2012-07-12 Thread Bruno Oliveira (Google)
Hello,

We are looking into the issue but we don't have a position to share on 
how/when this issue will be addressed yet. The Orkut team has debated it a 
lot with the AdSense team since the beginning of this thread and we'll keep 
you updated on the progress.

Thanks for your input and continued support!

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Bruno Oliveira (Google)


On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:12:58 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote:

 +1
  

 On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:59:35 PM UTC+3, davew wrote:

 Hi Bruno,

 Will the Orkut team work on resolving the Adsense crawler problems?  In 
 order for app developers to support Orkut we need to make money on the 
 platform. To make money we need targeted ads.  If Google's Adsense crawler 
 can't crawl pages then those ads have very low rpm. 

 At one point I know the Google Adsense for Games team was using Orkut 
 user profile data to target ads on application pages. I know because we use 
 Adsense for Games on BuddyPoke.. But I'm guessing, based on the drop of rpm 
 that Orkut is now completely blocking Adsense's crawlers, including Adsense 
 for Games?  Why can't Google Adsense servers access Google Orkut pages?

 Please help?

 Thanks

 Dave @ BuddyPoke


 On Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:54:30 PM UTC-7, anatoly wrote:

 Hi Bruno
  
  
 Following this thread discussion let me clarify the main issue:
  
 *.orkut.gmodules.com/gadgets
  
 urls are behind a login so adsense crawler can't access these pages 
 while trying to crawl adsense ads on app pages.
 If it is unable to crawl using adsense ads is not effective on app pages.
  
 Is there any workaround?
 It is impossible to define a crawler login for google hosted urls in 
 adsense configuration.
  
  
 thanks
  
  
  

 On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:37:56 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) 
 wrote:

 Hello,

 So, I've been discussing this with the engineers here. Adsense crawlers 
 don't crawl over authenticated pages (right?). So, even if 
 /Application.aspx were not blocked, it would not be able to crawl it. So, 
 isn't this warning spurious? That is, the fact that Application.aspx is 
 blocked shouldn't alter your ads quality at all...

 Or am I mistaken?

 Thanks!

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 Bruno Oliveira (Google)


 On Monday, March 12, 2012 6:42:35 PM UTC-3, Bruno Oliveira (Google) 
 wrote:

 Our team is looking into the issue with the additional information you 
 provided! I'll update the thread as soon as I hear news.

 Thanks!

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 Bruno Oliveira (Google)


 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:39:22 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote:

 Hi Bruno
  
  
 thanks for the update
  
 Please update this thread if you make any decisions or changes about 
 this.
 I think it crawls the page where the ad markup appears plus sometimes 
 the parent page if it the former is iframe.
 Adsense cralwer errors are reported to the publisher, so I can see 
 where it fails. If you need any info let mwe know.
  
  
 thanks
  
  

 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:04:08 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira (Google) 
 wrote:

 Hello,

 Thanks for the explanation, it clarified the finer points of how the 
 adsense crawler works which I wasn't aware of. I assumed it crawled the 
 landing page only, not the page on which the ad appears. We'll look 
 into 
 it. Thanks!

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 Bruno Oliveira (Google)


 On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:32:44 PM UTC-3, anatoly wrote:

 Any update on the issue?
 The minimum orkut team should do is fix the bug of 
 requestNavigateTo implementation 
  
 Currently requestNavigateTo redirects to /Application.aspx instead 
 of /Application and it blocks adsense crawler.
 I'd suggest to work closely with adsense team, you're the same 
 company, I can't coordinate your internal cooperation.
 Just ask Adsense team how much crawler errors do they get on 
 google.com.br, I bet there are billions.
  
  
 Please fix and update, otherwise it makes counterproductive to use 
 adsense on apps.
  
  
 thanks
  
  
  
  

 On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:08:35 PM UTC+2, Bruno Oliveira 
 (Google) wrote:

 We do not plan to modify robots.txt at the moment... but as far as 
 I understand, the crawler would not need to crawl over /Application, 
 because /PublicAppInfo does *not* automatically redirect to 
 /Application unless the user is logged in and has the app installed.

 Since the crawler is not an Orkut user, this redirection would not 
 happen and it would never see /Application or any other page. At 
 least 
 that's how it *should* happen :-) I've tested /PublicAppInfo 
 myself while not logged in (which mimics the way the adsense crawler 
 would 
 see it) and indeed it does not perform any redirections that I could 
 tell...

 Thanks!

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 Bruno Oliveira (Google)



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