Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: StarOffice 8

2005-10-14 Thread Casper . Dik

>strings stupid.doc | more


This reminds me of a story: one person used this method to
read .documents; but he didn't understand the email he got from
his manager as it was confidential and not concerning him.
It turned out that this was another one of those: take a document
as template, delete all text, and start typing jobs.  But in this
particular case the new text was UTF-8 (or whatever they use)
but the old was just ASCII.  So strings only showed the old letter.

Casper
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[osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Jim Grisanzio
I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris: 
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris
It's basically my version of the project. It's a start, anyway. :) I'll 
keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs I'm working on.


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[osol-discuss] Nice treat for the SVOSUG

2005-10-14 Thread Alan DuBoff
FYI, for folks in Silicon Valley, we have a special treat for you at the next 
meeting on October 25th. We're gonna have Scott Nelson from Real Network to 
do a short presie/talk on Solaris/OpenSolaris and Real, Helix, and 
RealPlayer.

This has been a widely discussed topic in the Solaris x86 community for quite 
some time, and most people will be glad to know that there's finally more 
than a prayer to get RealPlayer for Solaris x86.

I haven't posted an announcement yet, but Michael Lim will be giving the main 
presention on IP Filters. This should be another great SVOSUG meeting, and 
we'll be in the upstairs room at the Santa Clara Auditorium again.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/14/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris
> It's basically my version of the project. It's a start, anyway. :) I'll
> keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs I'm working on.
>

that's a good read.  straight up and from the hip.  A classic JimG
piece ( if you can be referred to as a classic )

Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Casper . Dik

>
>--Boundary_(ID_cdrTXVNPYFEDnLNon9P0Rg)
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>Content-disposition: inline
>
>On 10/14/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
>> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris
>> It's basically my version of the project. It's a start, anyway. :) I'll
>> keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs I'm working on.
>>
>
>that's a good read.  straight up and from the hip.  A classic JimG
>piece ( if you can be referred to as a classic )


I also very much liked:

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=opensolaris_lessons_learned

Casper

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Re: [osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Chris Humphries
+--
| On (14/10/05 15:35), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Cc: Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
|   opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:35:46 +0200
| Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story 
| 
| 
| >
| >--Boundary_(ID_cdrTXVNPYFEDnLNon9P0Rg)
| >Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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| >On 10/14/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >> I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
| >> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris
| >> It's basically my version of the project. It's a start, anyway. :) I'll
| >> keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs I'm working on.
| >>
| >
| >that's a good read.  straight up and from the hip.  A classic JimG
| >piece ( if you can be referred to as a classic )
| 
| 
| I also very much liked:
| 
| http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=opensolaris_lessons_learned
| 

Wow, that is a good read. Learned things I can use.

| Casper
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[osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
> I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
> 
> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_sto
> ry_of_opensolaris
> It's basically my version of the project. It's a
> start, anyway. :) I'll 
> keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs
> I'm working on.

Nice slides Jim. But you have a bug on page 17 where 
e.g. 110,000 is displayed as 10,000.

Bye, Dragan
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/14/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
> >
> > http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_sto
> > ry_of_opensolaris
> > It's basically my version of the project. It's a
> > start, anyway. :) I'll
> > keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs
> > I'm working on.
>
> Nice slides Jim. But you have a bug on page 17 where
> e.g. 110,000 is displayed as 10,000.
>
Dragan, I think that you just posted a slide bug report ?  :-)

Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun, the contributor agreement & German Law ......

2005-10-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Really, I would take any advice given by a non-legal with a grain of salt. 
> But...could you at least detail which portion or element of the license is of 
> concern or was it just a general spray at the license?

I see no problem.

The Law forbids to give away the Copyright and 
the Sun text contains a salvatoric clause:
"to the extent allowable under locallaws".

Sun would need to know, that Sun is most likely not 
allowed to register a Copyright for the code 
because there is an aggreement between the USA and the EU
for crosswise acknowledging the local Copyright laws.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun,

2005-10-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ché Kristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not possible to reassign copyright...wow, thats unusual.

It has this way since 1902

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Re: [osol-discuss] Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Eric Boutilier
Seconded, bigtime!

Eric

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> On 10/14/05, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I posted my draft slides and notes about OpenSolaris:
> > http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris
> > It's basically my version of the project. It's a start, anyway. :) I'll
> > keep updating these on my blog as well as other docs I'm working on.
> >
>
> that's a good read.  straight up and from the hip.  A classic JimG
> piece ( if you can be referred to as a classic )
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Jim Grisanzio

Dennis Clarke wrote:

On 10/14/05, Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Nice slides Jim. But you have a bug on page 17 where
e.g. 110,000 is displayed as 10,000.



Dragan, I think that you just posted a slide bug report ?  :-)



Yah, I noticed that number change when I reduced that graphic to fit on 
the slide. Guess I should upgrade ...


Thanks for the kinds words, everyone. :)

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[osol-discuss] Re: Fibre Channel on x86

2005-10-14 Thread Fazal Majid
I have a $500 Apple PCI-X HBA (with a SFP connector) in a V20z (Solaris 10 GA 
3/05) using the LSI Logic 64-bit drivers for Solaris 10/x86 (the Apple card is 
a OEM-ed LSI7202XP). It has been running for about a month now. My home 
directory is on it, so I would know if there was a problem :-)

We have the same HBAs running on Sun E420Rs in production for over a year with 
XServe RAID as storage units, they works quite well.

Famous last words... We have been prepping a new Sun V440R with two of those 
cards for an upgrade, and during burn-in, it now won't even boot in single-user 
mode, with the following message:

Rebooting with command: boot
Boot device: disk  File and args:
SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic 64-bit
Copyright 1983-2005 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Hardware watchdog enabled
WARNING: itmpt0: doorbell = 40003216
WARNING: itmpt0: IssueIocReset, adapter failed to come ready (40003216)
WARNING: itmpt0: doorbell = 40003216
WARNING: itmpt0: IssueIocReset, adapter failed to come ready (40003216)
(keeps on doing this)

probably a hardware failure on one of the cards, but it is worrisome that a 
card can take the system down - FC multipathing wouldn't help here.
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[osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread TJ Yang
>From your slides,  I learn wiki will be supported in the future, please pick 
>one that support command line editing also. 
Thanks.
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[osol-discuss] Re: New Community Request

2005-10-14 Thread Tim McMurphy
Nils Nieuwejaar emailled me with info about the framework they are going to 
release soon. It sounds like what I want but they are much farther along so 
I'll see what they post and probably work on that project. No sense 
re-inventing the wheel.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Jim Grisanzio

W. Wayne Liauh wrote:

Jim Grisanzio wrote:

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jimgris?entry=the_story_of_opensolaris >

These slides were created with Impress, and the PDF files with StarOffice 7 
(plse see the attached screenshot).

Practice what you preach.  Best way to lead a movement.  Thanks a whole lot!


I'm not impressed with your analysis, don't tell me what to do, and I 
never said I was a leader of anything. I'll use the software I please. I 
use S10 on my laptop with StarOffice 7, I use the latest version of 
OpenOffice at home on Windows, and I use StarOffice 8 on my Sun Ray. I 
make those decisions. Not you.


Jim
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[osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
BTW, for some reason, the quoted text mysteriously disappeared after I posted 
my reply.  (I am using Firefox, but I don't think the browser makes any 
difference.)

The web-based forum does not have the auto-quote option when replying, and I 
had to copy and paste the quoted text, which, as I just said, mysteriously 
disappeared.  The quote text was there when I do the "Preview".

I don't know whether this is a feature or a bug, but the first few times it 
happened, it certainly drove me crazy.
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[osol-discuss] [Fwd: Re: Port of Qemu Accelerator for Solaris Host?]

2005-10-14 Thread Brad Diggs
Hello,

Sorry for the wide distribution.  I am trying to find out who might be
willing and able to do a small porting job of the qemu accelerator
(kqemu) from Linux to Solaris 10.  The author of kqemu (see the attached
forward) says that the code is only about 400 lines long.

I am no judge as to whether this would be easy or not.  However, it 
would be a huge help to me and my team if someone could get kqemu 
working on Solaris 10 so that we can do some x86 testing on sparc
systems via qemu virtual machines?

For more info on qemu and the qemu accelerator (kqemu), please see
the main qemu site:

http://www.qemu.org/

Please let me know if you are interested!

Thanks in advance,
Brad
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Hello,

Do you have a port of the Qemu Accelerator for Solaris 10/OpenSolaris
for sparc or x86?


Hi,

I don't have a port of the QEMU accelerator for Solaris, but it should 
be easy to do it for someone who knows the Solaris kernel because only a 
small wrapper must be written (the wrapper for Linux, BSD or windows are 
about 400 line long).


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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread Derek Cicero

W. Wayne Liauh wrote:

BTW, for some reason, the quoted text mysteriously disappeared after I 
posted my reply. (I am using Firefox, but I don't think the browser 
makes any difference.)


The web-based forum does not have the auto-quote option when replying, 
and I had to copy and paste the quoted text, which, as I just said, 
mysteriously disappeared. The quote text was there when I do the 
"Preview".


The "Quote Original" functionality has always worked for me. What 
browser/version are you using?


Derek



I don't know whether this is a feature or a bug, but the first few 
times it happened, it certainly drove me crazy.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Laptop WIFI

2005-10-14 Thread Jason W
It's the old vendor lock-in trick.  I'm more experienced with Dells,
and as far as I can tell, there is no such restriction on Dell
laptops.  The only problem I have seen is on the Latitude C600 (aka
Inspiron 4000) which was Dell's first mini-pci model, they don't
include the antenna wires, you get them with the card if you order it
from Dell.  The C610/4100 included the wires, so you can put whatever
card you want in there.

Also, worth noting is most desktop based wireless cards are actually a
mini-pci card mounted in a slot with a shield over it.  When Dell's
site was lacking on variety, I suggested to people on the forum to go
and buy a linksys card and disassemble it to remove the mini-pci card.
Many did and it worked fine.  One caveat is when they solder the
antenna wires rather than use the plugs.  Since desktop pcs only use
one antenna, you'll have only one jack to plug into on the card if the
other was soldered.  If there is a way to alter the antenna diversity
settings on such a card, I'd only enable the side that is actually
plugged in.
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[osol-discuss] Max's Kernel Article

2005-10-14 Thread Jim Grisanzio

I posted Max's article on the Linux, Solaris, and Free BSD kernels:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/article/2005-10-14_a_comparison_of_solaris__linux__and_freebsd_kernels/
Huge apologies, Max, for being so late with this. :)

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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Jim's OpenSolaris Story

2005-10-14 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> I'm not impressed with your analysis, don't tell me what to do, and I never 
> said I was a leader of anything. I'll use the software I please. I use S10 on 
> my laptop with StarOffice 7, I use the latest version of OpenOffice at home 
> on Windows, and I use StarOffice 8 on my Sun Ray. I make those decisions. Not 
> you.
>
> Jim
>

"You" does not literally mean "you", Jim Grisanzio, but "Sun" as a company.  I 
don't give it a damn about what you do as an individial.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Laptop WIFI

2005-10-14 Thread Paul Gress

Alan DuBoff wrote:


On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:25 pm, Paul Gress wrote:
 


I searched ebay
and came across a company that has generic "mini-pci" cards with the
Atheros 5212 chip.  I purchased the card, removed the old Broadcom card,
loaded the SUNWatheros package and it just worked.
   



I've heard that some laptops won't work, and I've seen this internal at Sun 
also. Many laptops will allow that, but some have a proprietary mini-pci 
slot, such as the IBM Thinkpads I'm told. I believe that someone has replaced 
one of the Broadcom mini-pci cards in the Acer Ferrari 3400 with success.


 


The link for this company
store on ebay is http://stores.ebay.com/Prime-Electronic-Components .
   



Thanks for posting that link, maybe that will help someone else out. Just be 
warned that some laptops have problems accepting a different mini-PCI.


 

I have more to add.  I sent an e-mail to the seller of the atheros cards 
and what he has to say is promising.  Please note, I have not tested 
what is listed below, but I have no reason not to believe him.  Again, 
use your own discretion.




"We don't have a list of laptops that it works with, but I can tell you 
this.  Out of

over 2000 we have sold I have only had to take back 5 of them because
they wouldn't work and then it is usually an IBM that causes the
problems.  You are correct that some manufacturers do not use a
completely standard mini-pci slot.  The way I understand it is that
certain pins are designated for vendor use.  We have run into the
problem where a card doesn't completely work.  What will happen the OS
will recognize the card and install the drivers, but you will not be
able to pickup any wireless networks or the card will come up that the
radio is off.  This happens when it is installed into a machine that has
a proprietary mini-pci slot.  These machines are usually ones that have
a hardware switch to turn the radio on and off.  The manufacturers do
not all wire this option the same way.  All you need to do to work
around it is to cover 2 pins on the card and it corrects the problem by
disabling the hardware switch.  I have instructions on how to do this
for anyone that runs into the problem.  We offer a pretty liberal return
policy.  Any buyers who can not get it to work are more than welcome to
return it for a refund if they feel it is incompatible."

Instructions below:

"Cover pins 11 and 13 on your m-pci wireless card (even pins are on the
bottom side, the odd are on the top. For orientation, the top of the
card is where you plug the two antenna in.

While facing the top of the card count to pin 11 and 13. (from the cut
in the card over, don't forget to count the lone pin as well 1,2) cover
both pins 11 and 13 with tape (or finger nail polish) Place card back,
start laptop, and you should be able to configure it from there."
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