[osol-discuss] Mailman list archives gone ?
Hi! It seems all the list archives are gone from mail.opensolaris.org - for example http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ksh93-integration-discuss/ only shows an empty directory instead of the archived messages... ;-(( Can anyone please check what is going wrong there ? Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] \__\/\/__/ MPEG specialist, CJAVASunUnix programmer /O /==\ O\ TEL +49 641 7950090 (;O/ \/ \O;) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: vfork issues
Peter Buckingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Enright wrote: Linux overcommits / lazy loads on memory allocations, though this is tunable. I believe the default setting is to overcommit, which can lead to the random killing of processes in order to retrieve memory should one run out. I forget the terminology used for that particular system. They have something called the 'out of memory killer'. In the past it just looked for Netscape/Mozilla ;-) I believe its behaviour is tunable, at one point they actually allowed the determination of processes to be killed to be modifiable. There also was some effort to remove this behaviour in the 2.4 kernel. I am not sure about the behavior on 2.6 but I was forced to upgrade the berlios web server from Linux-2.4 to Solaris 3 years ago, after the web service did cause Linux to go into catatony every 30 minutes caused by the memory overcommitment. There is no problem on single CPU systems and this is why a home PC driven development like Linux does not address the problem. If you however have a dual CPU machine, the kernel will do copy on write faster than it is able to kill processes :-( as a result, only reset or power cycling the machine helps What happend is that apache preforks at startup time, resulting in many times mmemory overcommitment if you follow the apache server hints in the log files and increase the nhumber of forked instances. Once you get severyl hundreds of HTTP requests per second, the serve will modify the data section causing a copy on write and immediate starvation of the machine. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenGrok useless?
Cyril Plisko wrote: On 12/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the beginning the opensolaris source index with OpenGok was extremely useful; unfortunately, it has become useless, IMHO, because it also indexes all projects on opensolaris.org. Another thing is that opengrok used to show history going back significantly beyond the opensolaris launch (2 years or someting). Since it was switch to index mercurial repo this feature was lost too. I found it very useful and would really appreciate having it back. I wouldn't say useless, but I will agree with both points. Wading through all the different overlapping tree's can become tedious and confusing. I currently work around this by bookmarking http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/; and clicking the only in src option to confine all searches to what I actually care about. A drop down box for consolidation on the front page when doing your initial search would be a nifty solution, so long as that setting is thereafter persistent. Regardless, my life would be much more complicated if it weren't for OpenGrok. benr. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenGrok useless?
I wouldn't say useless, but I will agree with both points. Yeah, probably too stronly worded in frustration. Wading through all the different overlapping tree's can become tedious and confusing. I currently work around this by bookmarking http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/; and clicking the only in src option to confine all searches to what I actually care about. A drop down box for consolidation on the front page when doing your initial search would be a nifty solution, so long as that setting is thereafter persistent. Thanks for the tip. Regardless, my life would be much more complicated if it weren't for OpenGrok. True; it would be nice if we could just restore the search facility we had at first which was limited to the main branches. A simple checkbox include projects would suffice (it should not be checked by default) Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mailman list archives gone ?
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 10:09:04AM +0100, Roland Mainz wrote: Hi! It seems all the list archives are gone from mail.opensolaris.org - for example http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ksh93-integration-discuss/ only shows an empty directory instead of the archived messages... ;-(( Can anyone please check what is going wrong there ? There has been a problem with the mail server and the mail archives have been removed to resolve the problem. I believe that you can still find the archived discussions using the Jive forums. At the moment the opensolaris operations staff are on Christmas break and we are only responding to emergencies. I don't think this classes as an emergency and so we will work out a permanent solution to the problem when we return to work in the new year. Gary Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] \__\/\/__/ MPEG specialist, CJAVASunUnix programmer /O /==\ O\ TEL +49 641 7950090 (;O/ \/ \O;) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: vfork issues
The Linux overcommit approach is evil anyway, because it's not deterministic enough in its consequences. What _should_ happen is that the fork(), brk()/sbrk(), private mmap() of /dev/zero, etc fails. Every effort should be made to avoid failing COWs and the like that constitute resource allocations for which the syscall has already returned successfully. Of course, once in a while, no matter how careful the OS is, there's an uncorrectable error on a dirty user page, I/O error on a fetch from backing store, an exec*() that fails after address space teardown has begun (despite having already done some of the checks on the executable), or whatever, and the OS has no choice that results in consistent behavior other than to kill the process. But there's really no other excuse for an OS initiated SIGKILL other than such a situation, IMO, and every remotely reasonable attempt should have been made to avoid rather than invite such a situation, even at some cost in performance. And in the event that such a thing is unavoidable, the logging functionality of the OS should already have the resources needed to maximally ensure its ability to record (or at least display on the console) the timestamp, PID, execname, and reason. That's not to say that sloppy apps might not still fail to check error returns from syscalls or library functions that make syscalls, but that's not the OS's fault. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: vfork issues
On 12/23/06, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Linux overcommit approach is evil anyway, because it's not deterministic enough in its consequences. What _should_ happen is that the fork(), brk()/sbrk(), private mmap() of /dev/zero, etc fails. Every effort should be made to avoid failing COWs and the like that constitute resource allocations for which the syscall has already returned successfully. Not to mention that some developers take the overcommit feature for granted, use the regular fork without thinking and dont even check for malloc errors, that makes the app unreliable under os's other than linux nacho ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Syncmaster 793s monitor xorg.conf
Hi list, Does anybody here have a syncmaster 793s monitor, and are you able to get something more than 1024x768? If yes, could you mail me your /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. I'm trying to figure out why the higher resolution isn't recognized. Regards Anil ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Conference: Extended Call For Papers
Hello! Today we would like to inform you about the extended deadline for paper submissions at the very end of this year, December 31. So far, we've got quite a bunch of interesting papers submitted, seom details see below. Confirmed keynotes come from Simon Phipps and Roy Fielding. Because we started somehow late to organize the conference, the schedule for the Call for Papers became quite tight. As a consequence we decided to extend the submission deadline to December 31, 2006 in order to give you a better opportunity to submit abstracts about your project and/or your field of work. Without spoiling too much of the program announcement: E.g. we will have a talk about Nexenta a.k.a. GNU/Solaris, a tutorial about virtualization technologies in OpenSolaris, a couple of development tool/techniques will be presented and a variety of other interesting submissions. The conference is pretty international as of now, outside Europe we have submissions from USA, Canada, India, Argentina and I want to mention Russia, too. The CfP at http://www.osdevcon.org/cfp.html gives a good overview about further abstracts we would welcome submissions for. So if you would like to give a presentation next year (2/27-3/2/2007) in Berlin please point your browser at http://www.osdevcon.org/submission.html . This seems to be a frequent question: Please note that accommodation costs for accepted speakers will of course be paid by the German Unix User Group (GUUG). If you're on a tight budget regarding travel expenses: There might be some possibility to also refund travel expenses depended on the sponsors, quality of the paper and travel distance. If you're interested in that, please contact us at (see e-mail address on the web site), and a comment in the submission would be helpful. Cheers, Dirk -- Dr. Dirk Wetter, GUUG e.V. http://www.guug.de Program Committee OpenSolaris Developer Conference http://www.osdevcon.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Has the dlc gone bad? http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/ - page not loading.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Eric Enright wrote: It's not really /that/ troublesome. Typically I run a screen, cut-n-paste the urls into a file, and do something like: The cut-n-paste part I really do find troublesome, from there it's wget friends, ok. foreach url ( `cat files` ) wget -O `basename $url` $url end Ah, a C shell user ;) Another thing to note, is in a recent discussion with a friend who I'm in the process of converting over to Solaris, he asked this question about SXCR: Ok, cool, so where can I find a torrent? A lot of people seem to expect it these days. Indeed, I think the bittorent protocol is really neat. Microsoft has resisted to distribute their latest package this time, but I could imagine they're offering torrents for their next version. So we better hurry :) Christian. -- BOFH excuse #6: global warming ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
RE: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Yeap you are right.. I've added -xarch=v9 in my compile option and it works.. thanks Celcom (M) Bhd Mohd Hisham Auyob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4th Floor, Wisma Celcom, Lot 74, Jln Kemajuan, Section 13, 46200, Petaling Jaya, Selangor tel: 03-72027451 fax: 03-72027337 mobile: 019-3149755 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:12 PM To: Mohd Hisham Auyob Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Mohd Hisham Auyob wrote: Hi... really need help on this. i got error while compiling my pro C program. ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib//libclntsh.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib/scorept.o: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to t.exe i'm using solaris 10 sparc , oracle 10G. Well, it looks like you're trying to link 64bit libraries and 32bit application objects together. That doesn't work. You must compile your program into 64bit code in order to link it with the library files listed above, which are 64bit. FrankH. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
RE: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Thanks to all who reply and help me.. I'm able to compile my source code Celcom (M) Bhd Mohd Hisham Auyob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4th Floor, Wisma Celcom, Lot 74, Jln Kemajuan, Section 13, 46200, Petaling Jaya, Selangor tel: 03-72027451 fax: 03-72027337 mobile: 019-3149755 -Original Message- From: Rod Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:05 PM To: Mohd Hisham Auyob Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Mohd Hisham Auyob wrote: ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib//libclntsh.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib/scorept.o: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to t.exe http://blogs.sun.com/rie/entry/wrong_elf_class_requires_consistent -- Rod ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
RE: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Hi james.. I haven't tried to use $(RACLE_HOME/lib32 instead I used -xarch=v9 option. It works.. Thanks. Celcom (M) Bhd Mohd Hisham Auyob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4th Floor, Wisma Celcom, Lot 74, Jln Kemajuan, Section 13, 46200, Petaling Jaya, Selangor tel: 03-72027451 fax: 03-72027337 mobile: 019-3149755 -Original Message- From: James Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:04 PM To: Mohd Hisham Auyob Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Mohd Hisham Auyob writes: really need help on this. i got error while compiling my pro C program. ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib//libclntsh.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: file /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/lib/scorept.o: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to t.exe i'm using solaris 10 sparc , oracle 10G. S10 isn't Open Solaris, nor is this an Oracle support forum, but this looks like a familiar problem. Check your LD_LIBRARY_PATH and -L/-R flags. I think Oracle requires the use of that path (yecch), and that it needs to have $ORACLE_HOME/lib32 in it before the other libraries. -- James Carlson, KISS Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] live upgrade sxce 52 - sxce 54 = broken firefox
i did an automated luugrade -u - so there were no options given or chosen p Nicholas Senedzuk wrote: I had the same problem but it was with going from Solaris 10u1 to 10u3. I could not find any work around and ended up rebuilding my system. Was there an option for Secure by Default when doing the upgrade? On 12/20/06, *Peter Lees* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi folks, i just did a live upgrade from sxce snv_52 to sxce snv_54, and am having trouble with the bundled firefox (new version is version 2.0) on first startup, firefox works fine. on second startup, firefox segfaults if i remove my ~/.mozilla directory, firefox will start up again. if i quit and try to start firefox, segfault. anyone else come across this? is this a known bug and/or something with an existing workaround? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [Fwd: [osol-discuss] live upgrade sxce 52 - sxce 54 = broken firefox]
it was on x86. unfortunately i can't give you the call stack: i did a manual upgrade (not live upgrade) and it now works p brian.lu wrote: Peter, On which platform did you see the problem x86 or sparc? And can you send me the call stack after segfault? Thanks Brian Zhao-Zhou Li wrote: FYI. ZZ Subject: [osol-discuss] live upgrade sxce 52 - sxce 54 = broken firefox From: Peter Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:18:11 -0800 (PST) To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org hi folks, i just did a live upgrade from sxce snv_52 to sxce snv_54, and am having trouble with the bundled firefox (new version is version 2.0) on first startup, firefox works fine. on second startup, firefox segfaults if i remove my ~/.mozilla directory, firefox will start up again. if i quit and try to start firefox, segfault. anyone else come across this? is this a known bug and/or something with an existing workaround? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] simple loggin
Just installed Solaris 10, I am totally new at this OS, when asked for username and password the system goes to sleep cause it can't recognize my username. Not sure what to log in as, I tried 'root', but I am left clueless. Can somenone help, totally new to Solaris. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] simple loggin
Isidoro, Just installed Solaris 10, I am totally new at this OS, when asked for username and password the system goes to sleep cause it can't recognize my username. Not sure what to log in as, I tried 'root', but I am left clueless. Can somenone help, totally new to Solaris. When I've installed OpenSolaris, the installer has always asked me to set a root password. If you can remember what the root password is, then: Type root first. Press enter. Type the password next. Obviously don't include the double quotes () when you type root. If, for some reason, the system goes to sleep immediately after typing root and doesn't ask you for a password, please tell us: 1. What you actually installed - where did you download it from 2. What you can actually see - is it a graphical login or does it look like a command line terminal Thanks, DSL ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: simple loggin
Solaris 10 (latest from sun), boots to graphical option menu (Solaris or fairsafe) then goes to text command lines, and when I am asked for username I entered root, then it asked me for the root password and I entered it then the system went to sleep again. I have to reboot to try to log in again. Hey! I appreciate your effort! thanks! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] home network design advice
Hello, I would like some suggestions about a home network design. My current set up consists of a broadband connection(cable), a cable modem that connects to a Linux server that runs Smoothwall as a firewall. The firewall server connects to a switch. Connected to the switch is a game server that runs 24x7, two desktops and a nfs server(V120, Sol 10) that is used to mount home directories. Well, today, my firewall died. I would like to replace the firewall server with another V120 running Sol 10. My question is about the services that need to run on the firewall server. Do I need to run DHCP? For the most part, anything on the network will have a hardcoded IP address. But, there is a possibility of a box, such as a laptop, not having a dedicated IP. Do I need to run DNS? Since I want to use this box as a firewall, I'm assuming that I will use IP Filter. Is IP Filter a good firewall? Any other suggestions? Thanks for any advice and/or comments. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
