Re: [osol-discuss] [zones-discuss] Error on zoneadm attach -u when going from b132 to b133

2010-02-24 Thread Paul van der Zwan

On 22 feb 2010, at 15:02, Thomas Burgess wrote:

 
 you're lucky.  It didn't work for me.  I got caught in a catch 22
 i'd do attach -u and it would fail, then i'd do attach (without -u) and it 
 would tell me to do attach -u
 
Did you do the detach after the image-update ? That was a mistake I made the 
first time I wanted
to upgrade a system with zones, doing the detach before the image-update.

My zones are fairly minimal, just ‘entire’ and a few extra packages, all from 
the dev repo.
Nothing from contrib in the zones, maybe that might be a difference.

Paul

 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Paul van der Zwan paul.vanderz...@sun.com 
 wrote:
 
 On 22 feb 2010, at 12:26, Alan Burlison wrote:
 
  Paul van der Zwan wrote:
 
  If I run attach -u a second time it attaches without doing anything, or 
  giving an error.
  Are my zones OK or are they partly upgraded ?
 
  Sounds like an issue mentioned in the release notes:
 
  http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-announce/2010-February/001411.html
  http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=14673
 
 
 That seems to be it. Glad I did what the release notes say I should have done 
 ;-)
 
 
 Thanks
Paul
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris 2010.03?

2010-02-24 Thread Milan Jurik
Hi,

W. Wayne Liauh píše v út 23. 02. 2010 v 17:10 -0800:
 But b133 (LiveCD) still failed to boot from two of our three test machines 
 (both are with multi-core, at least 4 GB DDR2, one with ATI HD graphics the 
 other with Intel chip).  On the one machine that it successfully boots (HP 
 dv3, 4GB, ATI HD 4200), it keeps asking for password to a wifi network that 
 does not require authentication.

Could you send the CR numbers, please? Easily you can see from their
status if they went to build 134 or not.

Best regards,

Milan

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtualbox 3.0.12 IPS?

2010-02-24 Thread Alan Steinberg

It should be there now as of yesterday.

-- Alan

On 02/23/10 10:46 PM, Cyril Plisko wrote:

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Garen Parhamgare...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Should we be lobbying the VirtualBox folks then?  Is there a better venue to do 
that?

I'm really eagerly awaiting 3.1 due to the improved USB/Audio support for 
OpenSolaris.
 

Any ideas when 3.1.4 will appear in extra repo ?

   

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Re: [osol-discuss] virtualbox 3.0.12 IPS?

2010-02-24 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alan Steinberg alan.steinb...@sun.com wrote:
 It should be there now as of yesterday.

Yeah, I've noticed that two moments after I hit Send. (Learned my lesson)


 -- Alan

 On 02/23/10 10:46 PM, Cyril Plisko wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Garen Parhamgare...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Should we be lobbying the VirtualBox folks then?  Is there a better venue
 to do that?

 I'm really eagerly awaiting 3.1 due to the improved USB/Audio support for
 OpenSolaris.


 Any ideas when 3.1.4 will appear in extra repo ?



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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for helping OpenSolaris survive

2010-02-24 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Uh oh... slashdot is claiming that the writing is on the wall for OpenSolaris. 
I won't let this stupid FUD get to my head though... I know we can let OSol 
persist even without Oracle in the mix...

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[osol-discuss] An idea for helping OpenSolaris survive

2010-02-24 Thread Peter Jones
I feel that your best bet is to just take the code and form an opensource 
foundation.The issues with licensing and name maybe need to be resolved.However 
the distro needs a strategy, business plan,revenue projections and reson 
detre.This may involve change beyond what the community would feel comfortable 
with.However it would be interesting to set sail in this direction and 
understand that ex sun products such as MysqL by be incorporated into a product 
solution which Oracle may even see as a sponsorship proposition.It is unlikely 
to survive as a technical preoccupation on per se..
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for helping OpenSolaris survive

2010-02-24 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
+1 trickii :)
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[osol-discuss] netpbm and pnmtopng?

2010-02-24 Thread solarg

hello all,
i have a web site on os2009.06 with webstack that needs netpbm and pnmtopng:
jpegtopnm: WRITING PPM FILE
giftopnm: Reading Image Sequence 0
pnmscale: promoting from PBM to PGM
sh: pngtopnm:  not found
pnmscale: Error reading magic number from Netpbm image stream.  Most 
often, this means your input file is empty.
pnmtojpeg: Error reading magic number from Netpbm image stream.  Most 
often, this means your input file is empty.

jpegtopnm: WRITING PPM FILE

i've installed netpbm from jucr/pending, and i tried to compile pnmtopng 
but doesn't know where to find missing libs:


r...@www2:/var/tmp/pnmtopng-2.39# make -f Makefile.std
cc -o pnmtopng pnmtopng.o -L../libpng -lpng  -L../zlib -lz 
-L../netpbm/pnm -L../netpbm/ppm -L../netpbm/pgm -L../netpbm/pbm  -lpnm 
-lppm -lpgm -lpbm  -lm

ld: fatal: library -lpnm: not found
ld: fatal: library -lppm: not found
ld: fatal: library -lpgm: not found
ld: fatal: library -lpbm: not found
ld: fatal: file processing errors. No output written to pnmtopng
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `pnmtopng'


Anybody can help?

thanks in advance

gerard
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[osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Lee
Ultimately the slashdot link points to a short article on Phronix about the 
not-so-bright future of OpenSolaris at Oracle, albeit the article is a bit weak 
on real content--still something about OpenSolaris made it on slashdot: 
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/0120245/The-Future-of-OpenSolaris
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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Griffith

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:34:08 -0500, Michael Lee mle...@gmail.com wrote:


Ultimately the slashdot link points to a short article on Phronix about the 
not-so-bright future of OpenSolaris at Oracle, albeit the article is a bit weak 
on real content--still something about OpenSolaris made it on slashdot:
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/0120245/The-Future-of-OpenSolaris



--snip--snip--
jjrff writes
Phoronix has a little piece about the future (or lack thereof) of OpenSolaris. It 
appears based on the current support lifecycle, OpenSolaris may be going away. There is a 
fun thread (read: mild flameage) on a ZFS list about it.
--snip--snip--

This has been discussed to death.

See to the thread here: 
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/2010-February/017593.html

Generally when it comes to Operating Systems other than Linux, Slashdot is the 
last place to look for any information.
Don't get me wrong, I like Slashdot, but you need to get your NON-Linux OS 
news/info somewhere else.

Regards,
Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI / CIFS performance not stable

2010-02-24 Thread Scott Meilicke
How often do you find the dips in performance? Is that period repeatable? I am 
suspecting the time when the data are dumped from memory to disk, writes 
dominate the disks and reads slow considerably.

Scott
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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Griffith

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:51:20 -0500, Paul Griffith pa...@cse.yorku.ca wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:34:08 -0500, Michael Lee mle...@gmail.com wrote:


Ultimately the slashdot link points to a short article on Phronix about the 
not-so-bright future of OpenSolaris at Oracle, albeit the article is a bit weak 
on real content--still something about OpenSolaris made it on slashdot:
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/0120245/The-Future-of-OpenSolaris



--snip--snip--
jjrff writes
Phoronix has a little piece about the future (or lack thereof) of OpenSolaris. It 
appears based on the current support lifecycle, OpenSolaris may be going away. There is a 
fun thread (read: mild flameage) on a ZFS list about it.
--snip--snip--

This has been discussed to death.

See to the thread here: 
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/2010-February/017593.html

Generally when it comes to Operating Systems other than Linux, Slashdot is the 
last place to look for any information.
Don't get me wrong, I like Slashdot, but you need to get your NON-Linux OS 
news/info somewhere else.

Regards,
Paul


Hi Michael,

Sorry if my response seem rather short and unfriendly I didn't mean it to be. I 
am generally
a nice guy, DID YOU HEAR ME ;)

But the whole OpenSolaris has a uncertain future thing just gets old after a 
awhile!

Regards,
Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread Gopi Desaboyina
slashdot and osnews is more in favour of linux than anything. I think opensol 
discussion groups are best for opensolaris news than these external websites.
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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:34:08 -0500, Michael Lee
 mle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ultimately the slashdot link points to a short
 article on Phronix about the not-so-bright future of
 OpenSolaris at Oracle, albeit the article is a bit
 weak on real content--still something about
 OpenSolaris made it on slashdot:
 
 http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/0120245/
 The-Future-of-OpenSolaris
 
 
 --snip--snip--
 jjrff writes
 Phoronix has a little piece about the future (or
 lack thereof) of OpenSolaris. It appears based on the
 current support lifecycle, OpenSolaris may be going
 away. There is a fun thread (read: mild flameage) on
 a ZFS list about it.
 --snip--snip--
 
 This has been discussed to death.
 
 See to the thread here:
 http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/indiana-discuss/
 2010-February/017593.html
 
 Generally when it comes to Operating Systems other
 than Linux, Slashdot is the last place to look for
 any information.
 Don't get me wrong, I like Slashdot, but you need to
 get your NON-Linux OS news/info somewhere else.
 
 Regards,
 Paul

Yeah, when the news doesn't fit our liking, we can always discredit the source. 
 :-)

Having said that, I am more convinced than ever that OpenSolaris does have a 
very special place.  IMNSHO, the old style propaganda machine the old Sun used 
to employ tends to drive potential developers away, while failing to attract 
significant number of (dedicated) new users.  

As we all know, OpenSolaris does have a unique set of features that are 
critically important in certain areas, and, unlike Linux, it also has a unique 
history and a noble lineage of established traditions which should make 
decision-makers feel more comfortable in adopting.

Even in the area of desktops, if we are willing to narrow our focus mainly on 
business desktops, then--amazingly--most of the perceived and acknowledged 
shortcomings suddenly disappear (or can be managed to disappear).  There are, 
of course, other advantages, e.g., if and when the user base gets too big, who 
is in the best position to provide services?  But that gets in too much of 
partisanship and my opinions are undoubtedly biased.

If you care to walk into a city, county, or even a state building, you will 
find out that most of the machines there are running Windows XP, some are 
running Windows 98 (or even Windows 95!)  Focusing on business users does not 
mean that you have to give up home users.  Many computer users stick to Windows 
because that's what's used in their jobs.  (Sun's top echelons love/use Mac, 
and you wonder why OpenSolaris is not widely used even by its owner.)
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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Gress

On 02/24/10 05:17 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:


Yeah, when the news doesn't fit our liking, we can always discredit the source. 
 :-)
   


I thought the same thing, just a little differently.  The Opensolaris 
mail exploders can be viewed to be biased towards Opensolaris.



Having said that, I am more convinced than ever that OpenSolaris does have a 
very special place.  IMNSHO, the old style propaganda machine the old Sun used 
to employ tends to drive potential developers away, while failing to attract 
significant number of (dedicated) new users.

As we all know, OpenSolaris does have a unique set of features that are 
critically important in certain areas, and, unlike Linux, it also has a unique 
history and a noble lineage of established traditions which should make 
decision-makers feel more comfortable in adopting.

Even in the area of desktops, if we are willing to narrow our focus mainly on 
business desktops,


I agree.  Gaming IMHO we will never get.  The enterprise customer 
doesn't like to much GUI.  What seems like a given are businesses.  
Businesses require a mix of GUI's and networking.  Basically, 
Workstations.  Where Opensolaris needs to excel is in getting more apps 
running to support businesses.  I know a few wish lists were compiled, 
but not focused towards businesses.


So basically, IMO, there should be a page on opensolaris.org that states 
where Opensolaris is heading.  Call it a business plan.  Call it focus.  
It can only help.  Linux is to large for this to occur, so Opensolaris 
may be at an advantage here.




Paul
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Re: [osol-discuss] OS b132: Sun C++ cannot compile C++ source due to linker segfault.

2010-02-24 Thread William Kucharski
What I see in b133 is this:

$ CC test.cc
CC: Fatal error in ld: Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
ld: fatal: file /opt/sunstudio12.1/prod/lib/crti.o: section [9].rela.annotate 
has invalid type [ SHT_RELA ]
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Re: [osol-discuss] OS b132: Sun C++ cannot compile C++ source due to linker segfault.

2010-02-24 Thread Ginn Chen
An old bug. You need to update the compiler.
However, I don't know how to do that on OpenSolaris.

I just rsync the updated compiler from a Solaris 10 machine.

Ginn

On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:13 PM, William Kucharski wrote:

 What I see in b133 is this:
 
 $ CC test.cc
 CC: Fatal error in ld: Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
 ld: fatal: file /opt/sunstudio12.1/prod/lib/crti.o: section [9].rela.annotate 
 has invalid type [ SHT_RELA ]
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[osol-discuss] strange vmstat behaviour ?

2010-02-24 Thread Bruno Damour
Hello,
On osol-b133 noticed that the first call to vmstat always yields a 
significantly different figure for freemem than the subsequent calls :

 # vmstat 2
 kthr  memorypagedisk  faults  cpu
 r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr cd s0 -- --   in   sy   cs us sy id
 0 0 23 199424 60264  9  61  9 14 29  0 749 8 -1  0  0  679 1652 1387  2  1 97
 0 0 48 192448 80700 96 121  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  537  933  446  2  1 98
 0 0 48 192368 81176  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  476  894  415  1  0 99
 0 0 48 192368 81176  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  478  943  430  0  1 99

Furthermore, if I let one vmstat 2 instance running in a shell, and launch a 
new one in another, the first call yields a different value than the one 
reported by the running one.
I cannot but think that the value on the first line must be unaccurate, which 
would mean that the output of vmstat (without the time loop) is unaccurate. 

I do not see this behaviour in my linux vm guest (gentoo), which reports 
consistents values even in the first call.

Is this behaviour expected ? Is it the same on other opensolaris builds, on 
SXCE, on solaris 10 ?
Is there any obvious explanation I'm missing ?

Bruno
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