Re: [osol-discuss] Benchmarking OpenSolaris and Solaris 10?

2010-07-10 Thread Ken Gunderson
Should be interesting, Ken.  Of course performance is only one dimension of 
platform evaluation, but looking forward to your results. Especially if you 
decided to throw FBSD-8.1RC2 into the fray;-)

Have fun and please do keep us posted.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Benchmarking OpenSolaris and Solaris 10?

2010-07-10 Thread Ian Collins

On 07/11/10 12:06 PM, Ken Mays wrote:

This is what we started putting together to check with Phoronix:

Lenovo ThinkPad T61 notebook with an Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 "Penryn" dual-core 
processor clocked at 2.50GHz, 4GB of system memory, a 100GB Hitachi HTS72201 SATA HDD, 
and NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M graphics. PHP5 v5.3.2 used.

Solaris 10u8 with the 5.10 kernel, GNOME 2.6.2, X Server 1.7.2, GCC 4.4.4, and 
a ZFS file-system.

   

Don't Sun/Oracle get snotty over publishing unofficial Solaris benchmarks?


OpenSolaris 2009.06 is based upon Solaris
Nevada 111b with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.24.2, X Server 1.5.3, GCC 4.4.4, and 
a ZFS file-system.

OpenSolaris 2010.DEV is based upon Solaris
Nevada 134 with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.28.2, X Server 1.7.7, GCC 4.4.4, and a 
ZFS file-system.

OpenSolaris 2010.DEV is based upon Solaris
Nevada 144 with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.28.2, X Server 1.7.7, GCC 4.4.4, and a 
ZFS file-system.

Phoronix Tests:
   



A few tests need implementing. ZFS works for now (awaiting official word).

   

What do you mean by "ZFS works for now"?

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[osol-discuss] Benchmarking OpenSolaris and Solaris 10?

2010-07-10 Thread Ken Mays
This is what we started putting together to check with Phoronix:

Lenovo ThinkPad T61 notebook with an Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 "Penryn" dual-core 
processor clocked at 2.50GHz, 4GB of system memory, a 100GB Hitachi HTS72201 
SATA HDD, and NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M graphics. PHP5 v5.3.2 used.

Solaris 10u8 with the 5.10 kernel, GNOME 2.6.2, X Server 1.7.2, GCC 4.4.4, and 
a ZFS file-system.

OpenSolaris 2009.06 is based upon Solaris
Nevada 111b with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.24.2, X Server 1.5.3, GCC 4.4.4, and 
a ZFS file-system.

OpenSolaris 2010.DEV is based upon Solaris
Nevada 134 with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.28.2, X Server 1.7.7, GCC 4.4.4, and a 
ZFS file-system.

OpenSolaris 2010.DEV is based upon Solaris
Nevada 144 with the 5.11 kernel, GNOME 2.28.2, X Server 1.7.7, GCC 4.4.4, and a 
ZFS file-system.

Phoronix Tests:

7-Zip compression
Bullet Physics Engine
C-Ray
dcraw
Gcrypt
GnuPG
GraphicsMagick
Gzip compression
Himeno
John The Ripper
LAME MP3 encoding
LZMA compression
MAFFT
PostMark
POV-Ray
Sudokut
Threaded I/O Tester

A few tests need implementing. ZFS works for now (awaiting official word).

~ Ken Mays
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-10 Thread Graham McArdle
> Support for Solaris is costly because only small
> number of people can
> fix it, and make it available to others. OpenSolaris
> support just gives
> more bang for a buck on every front.
> 
> Open VS Closed; Free(dom) VS Proprietary; Independent
> and associated VS
> Dependent on one company;  Active and included VS
> Passive and isolated.
> OpenSolaris VS Solaris.   Choose yourself.
> 
While I think you have a point, I also think OpenSolaris is a bad example of an 
open source product to make your point with. Even Nexenta would be a better 
example of a properly open-source product for which you can buy support. The 
OpenSolaris binary distribution is more like "Open Core", i.e. built from the 
open source kernel but is still a closed binary containing some closed 
components and assembled by an undisclosed build process, maybe even 
incorporating some closed patches. You can get close to building 2009.06 by 
building b128a, but I doubt you'd be able to replicate both the installation CD 
and the IPS repository.
If you pay Oracle for support and raise a help ticket that leads to a patch, do 
they send you the source of this patch, or guarantee that the patch will be 
included in the open source repository (even if it involves a closed binary 
component)? If Oracle decides to stop producing binary distributions of 
OpenSolaris altogether to focus fully on providing paid support for closed 
Solaris, what bang does that give you for the bucks you poured into OpenSolaris?
There are indeed many open-source products for which you can pay support (even 
RHEL, which is sufficiently open-source to be cloned into CentOS and others), 
but the other key factor to consider is the level of commitment from the 
support provider and whether you are still tied to a single provider. For 
OpenSolaris you can only buy support from Oracle, for as long as they can be 
bothered to provide it. With many other open source products you have a choice 
of independent support providers you can go to.
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[osol-discuss] HSDPA baud rate

2010-07-10 Thread Rui Silva
Hi!

I'm using a HSDPA modem on my OpenSolaris but it is slow.

I think that a cause for the low speed could be the baud rate selected im my 
chat file. I've selected 460800... When I tried to use higher values, it 
connected using 9600.

Questions:

- Is 460800 the higher rate I can use?

- If not, what is the highest  baud rate that the system accepts?

Thanks a lot!

Rui
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-10 Thread Svein Skogen
On 10.07.2010 11:18, Svein Skogen wrote:
> On 10.07.2010 02:58, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, just not getting it.
>>
> 
> Given the glorious insight you were able to show, I think this should
> become your signature.

Sorry about that one. That was over the line, and a personal attack. My
only excuse is having a particularly bad day, lack of coffee, and that
the target for that remark had been on my nerves for ... blatant
fanboi-trolling for the past week.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-10 Thread Svein Skogen
On 10.07.2010 02:58, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> 
> Sorry, just not getting it.
> 

Given the glorious insight you were able to show, I think this should
become your signature.

//Svein


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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

2010-07-10 Thread Al Lang
>> STOP!

Oh, for goodness sake. Get over it. Many of us are fans and enthusiasts with 
personal interest in the future of (Open)Solaris, not (just) dry formal 
professionals. People will gossip even (or especially) in the absence of 
formally reliable information. It's normal and natural and just fine. If you're 
not interested in what fans and enthusiasts have to say then stop reading 
public "-discuss" lists; if you are interested, then suck it up and learn to 
cope with a bit of idle chatter.
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