Thanks for the clarification Alan :)

On 6 Jul 2010, at 22:46, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

> Ben wrote:
>> While OpenSolaris isn't an open source project, isn't Indiana an open source 
>> project?
> 
> That question seems to be confused about both what OpenSolaris is
> and what open source is.
> 
> "Indiana" was the code name of the project to build the distro
> that was then given the name "OpenSolaris".   It's been open to
> some amount of community participation, but the core release
> management of that distro was always unfortunately done behind
> closed doors at Sun - Sun announced the schedule it chose based
> on the availability of Sun's resources to produce & test it, and
> alignment with Sun's other product releases & events like JavaOne,
> we didn't take community votes on release scheduling.   Sun was
> open about many parts of the process, but not all (I certainly
> went to weekly distro engineering/planning meetings that were
> not open to the public and which we were not allowed to share
> all the information from with the public).
> 
> Much of the code for the OpenSolaris distro comes from the open
> source project OpenSolaris - in that project (really, that family
> of related projects hosted on opensolaris.org) the community has
> been able to participate in various ways, though again, the bulk
> of the work and some key decision making was always done by Sun
> employees.
> 
> OpenSolaris, in both forms, is mostly open source - the source for
> most of it (with some notable exceptions due to third party code
> that never got replaced) is available under an open source license.
> That's not the same as community developed or community controlled,
> but then many corporate-sponsored open source projects are that
> way - final decision making for Ubuntu lies in the hands of its
> "Benevolent Dictator for Life" (who just happens to be the one
> providing the financing), Fedora similarly has a project leader
> who works for Red Hat.   And while Linus isn't beholden to one
> specific corporation, it is still he, not the community, who
> has ultimate decision authority over the Linux kernel.  These
> projects may all be more open and transparent about their
> decisions and schedules than OpenSolaris has been lately, but
> that doesn't make the licenses stop complying with OSI's
> definition of open source, though it may not be what some people
> think of when they hear "open source".
> 
> -- 
>       -Alan Coopersmith-        alan.coopersm...@oracle.com
>        Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
> 

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