Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-02-10 Thread Tim Bray

On the other side, GNU tar is unreliable.


It is really unhelpful to Solaris when its advocates make inflammatory  
and incorrect statements like this.  We agree that you have reported a  
bug.  There is no bug-free software in the world.  The immensely huge  
numbers of people who, like me, have been using GNU tools such as tar  
for many years without any problems hear things like this and are apt  
to conclude Solaris people are out of touch with reality.  -T


___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-17 Thread Tim Bray
On Jan 17, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 A serious problem with GNU tar is that it is unreliable and in a  
 signficant
 number of cases is unable to read back it's own archives.

I've been using tar on linux since about 1996 and I've never had such  
a failure, nor have I ever heard of anyone having one.  I'm not saying  
that it can't happen, I'm just saying that the experience of the  
community is that's an extremely reliable tool.

 Roughly at the same time as GNU tar introduced -z, star introduced
 auto-decompression. Why do you like to know about this detail if the  
 tar
 implementation could to this for you automagically based on the  
 compression
 header magic numbers?

My fingers are used to typing tar -xzf and as long as I don't get  
any stupid error messages and the data is unpacked, I'm happy. -T

___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-17 Thread Tim Bray

On Jan 17, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Octave Orgeron wrote:

 Hi,

 I totally agree. The BSD userland is not bad at all and I haven't  
 heard any developers on the Mac OS X platform complain

Well, as a long-time Linuxoid, when I started using a Mac I  
was fairly astounded how invisible the differences were.  top is  
kind of dorky on the Mac, but aside from that I'm hard-put to think of  
anything that's day-to-day visible to a heavy bash user.  Well, except  
for the filesystem being semi-case-insensitive, which gets you in the  
weirdest ways.  Solaris classic, on the other hand, surprises me all  
the time.

  -T

___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Tim Bray
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Why should I rename that exists in the public for a long time just  
 because
 some uncooperative people reused the name?

It's really irritating that ImageMagick grabbed command-line namespace  
this way.  It's worse than you think, Jörg: convert and identify  
are also ImageMagick commands.  The trouble is that they seem to have  
got away with it; for example, my blog-publishing system uses  
convert to wrangle pictures around, and it runs successfully on a  
huge number of different systems.  There are a huge number of  
ImageMagick users; of the three command-line image wranglers (there  
are also gd, and the pbm family) it produces by far the best-quality  
graphics.

So, it's reasonable to be irritated about this land-grab, but I'm  
afraid they have you outnumbered.  -Tim

___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


[osol-discuss] The other side of Solaris

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Bray
You can live there if you want: http://www.lifeatsolaris.com/

Hard to believe, but some are skeptical: http:// 
condohype.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/depreciation-at-meadows-gate/

We now return you to our previously-scheduled discussion of Open- 
Source operating systems.

  -T
___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org


Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Nov 6, 2007, at 4:05 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

 Putting /usr/gnu at the head of PATH causes incompatibilities to  
 apply.

Failure to put /usr/gnu at the head of PATH will cause a huge class  
of potential Solaris users to be confused and irritated and many of  
them will walk away.

The choice seems obvious to me.  -Tim

___
opensolaris-discuss mailing list
opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org