[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
I respectfully disagree (IRD). I am building a cluster to support high-performance computing, specifically meteorological models. The current version of the code runs on UltraSparc-III non-copper based system. The Sun sales rep loaned us an x4200 and I borrowed times on a SunFire V490 both configured with 4 cores and 4gb or memory. The wall-clock run time for the x4200 was 15 hours and the v490 was 9 hours. Granted the x4200 was cheaper, but you also get cheap hardware. The x4200 has too many sharp edges and reminds me of a beige box where the disk drives are held in place with foam blocks. Please note that I was specifically referring to the desktop/workstation space, and that I stand by my previous statement that Sun has nothing of interest or performance in that segment. Even a 32-bit Pentium 4 system with Hyper Threading will blow the doors off of any UltraSPARC workstation currently available for sale by Sun or any alternative SPARC hardware manufacturer. Also please note that X4200 and the V490 are both server class hardware, which is a completely different arena. Additionally, a V490 is equipped with the latest generation UltraSPARC IV+, dual core processors and is the Sun's current number-crunching UltraSPARC processor, at least until Niagara II and Rock are out. So in comparing X4200 and V490 with the desktop offerings, you're really comparing oranges with apples. If on the other hand you're trying to communicate that a V490 is faster than an X4200, that information is really meaningless without giving more details. For example, you could have been comparing the results of a run on a dual core UltraSPARC IV+ versus a single core 200-series Opteron processor. Not a fair comparison. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
I respectfully disagree (IRD). I am building a cluster to support high-performance computing, specifically meteorological models. The current version of the code runs on UltraSparc-III non-copper based system. The Sun sales rep loaned us an x4200 and I borrowed times on a SunFire V490 both configured with 4 cores and 4gb or memory. The wall-clock run time for the x4200 was 15 hours and the v490 was 9 hours. Granted the x4200 was cheaper, but you also get cheap hardware. The x4200 has too many sharp edges and reminds me of a beige box where the disk drives are held in place with foam blocks. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
NewSUNW and opensolaris give you so much more options now. SPARC is not dead on the desktop! Only if you're keen on shopping on ebay for old, tired Ultras and the like. Sun has nothing in the UltraSPARC arena that'd be even remotely able to compete in price/performance with your regular PC-bucket running the same operating system, Solaris. I believe that even Sun gave up on that idea, realizing that an UltraSPARC powered workstation is just out of touch with reality. Anyways, the days of the desktops and workstations are at an end. We will be all running thin clients and one form or another of a home server or servers... you have that today, it's just they call it the set-top box. And unlike the Commodore's CDTV fiasco in the 1990s, where the people were too ignorant (myself included, alas), the minds of people are finally ready to accept such a thing. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
Andrew Pattison wrote: * max supported hdd size ? -- (120GB) That was my next question. I didn't realise the onboard controller doesn't support UDMA though - that strikes me as a bit odd, considering it must have shipped with UDMA hard disks. I would be very interested in one of your magic cards. What sort of price did you have in mind? I've got a qfe (quad fast ethernet) card that came with the Ultra 10 if that's any use to you. ;-) Cheers Andrew. You are not the one_millionst, but the FIRST marTux user ever, who publically admits having booted it. And you even praised Xorg_for_sparc and requested a new version. You get my IDE_cmd649_with_JP0 card for free, because of this. Contact me in private and give me your address. You only need to pay(pal) the shipping fees. I will test the board again to be sure it is 100% ok Someone has booted marTux, I cannot believe it :-) -- Martin http://www.martux.org/RELEASES/sparcv9/ (LiveCD/DVD for sparc) http://www.martux.org/RELEASES/x86_and_x64/DVD/ (LiveDVD for x64/x86) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
I would be very interested in one of your magic cards. What sort of price did you have in mind? I've got a qfe (quad fast ethernet) card that came with the Ultra 10 if that's any use to you. ;-) It might be wiser to pay Martin for the controller than to trade a QFE card. You see, an U5 or an U10 with a QFE card makes for a perfect little *home* firewall appliance (in a locked down Solaris + IPFilter tandem). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
That would be an interesting project. I had a look at the drives which the Ultra 10 came with, and they support up to UATA 100 interface speeds. Do these rare UMC cards support this top speed? Thanks Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on an Ultra 10
* max supported hdd size ? -- (120GB) That was my next question. I didn't realise the onboard controller doesn't support UDMA though - that strikes me as a bit odd, considering it must have shipped with UDMA hard disks. I would be very interested in one of your magic cards. What sort of price did you have in mind? I've got a qfe (quad fast ethernet) card that came with the Ultra 10 if that's any use to you. ;-) Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
