Re: [opensource-dev] Can you legally agree to incomprehensible conditions

2010-04-08 Thread Aidan Thornton
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Gareth Nelson gar...@garethnelson.com wrote:
 It's a lot of work to maintain, trust me - anyway, it'd be better to
 convince the opensim team to allow viewer developers in.

Yep - people seem to end up writing their own simulator from scratch
instead as a result. I know that I did[1], and I recall that both you
and John Hurliman had your own projects too (litesim and Simian
respectively).

[1] http://www.makomk.com/gitweb/?p=cajeput.git;a=summary
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[opensource-dev] VNC plugin (was: Another crazy idea... what list for this one?)

2010-04-08 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 04/08/2010 07:08 AM, Glen Canaday wrote:
 What would the appropriate list for this be? I'm pretty sure it's not 
 this one,
   
MediaAPI https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/mediaapi,
probably. Though, before looking just a moment ago, I wasn't even aware
that list existed.

/me goes read the (still small) archive.
 Anyone know of a flash desktop exporter? For two-way web interaction 
 with your own desktop? Killer app for shared media... using your own 
 computer! ;)
   
Why Flash? It looks like Aimee's plugin
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AimeeTrescothick#g/u does just
what you want. Now, if she'd find some time to publish it ... :-)

cheers
Boroondas
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Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

2010-04-08 Thread Dzonatas Sol
I got it to compile to the secondlife-bin link stage, but then I got a 
link error:

/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so: undefined 
reference to `uuid_gener...@uuid_1.0'
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so: undefined 
reference to `uuid_unparse_lo...@uuid_1.0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

It does try to link against libuuid, with this link order:

 -lndofdev -lXinerama -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt 
-lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE 
-lX11 -lXext -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL -latk-1.0 
-lgdk-x11-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lXinerama -lglib-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 
-lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lpango-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 
-lpangox-1.0 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lxmlrpc-epi -lELFIO 
../viewer_components/login/liblllogin.a ../llmessage/libllmessage.a 
-lcurl -lcares -lssl -lcrypto -lxmlrpc-epi ../llrender/libllrender.a 
../llimage/libllimage.a ../llimagej2coj/libllimagej2coj.a -lopenjpeg 
-ljpeg -lpng12 -lfreetype -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL 
../llxml/libllxml.a ../llvfs/libllvfs.a ../llmath/libllmath.a 
../llcommon/libllcommon.so -laprutil-1 -ldb-4.2 -luuid -ldb-4.2 -luuid 
-lrt -lapr-1 -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt -lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lz 
-lexpat


This might be a recent change in compiler which forces one to use GCC 
4.1...  and I didn't see this one in jira.

I'll work this issue out more to see if it is merely a GCC4.4/GCC4.1 
difference.


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Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

2010-04-08 Thread Lance Corrimal
I'm having the same problem on opensuse 11.2.
until recently it built fine... after some change introduced a script 
which replaces the prebuilt libs with the systemwide installed ones, 
it stopped building with exactly that error.

why do i even have to have the build script download the prebuilt libs 
when they dont get used?


bye,
LC


Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 schrieb Dzonatas Sol:
 I got it to compile to the secondlife-bin link stage, but then I
 got a link error:
 
 /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so:
 undefined reference to `uuid_gener...@uuid_1.0'
 /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so:
 undefined reference to `uuid_unparse_lo...@uuid_1.0'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 It does try to link against libuuid, with this link order:
 
  -lndofdev -lXinerama -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt
 -lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lGLU -lGL -lSM
 -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL
 -latk-1.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lXinerama -lglib-2.0
 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0
 -lpango-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpangoxft-1.0
 -lxmlrpc-epi -lELFIO
 ../viewer_components/login/liblllogin.a ../llmessage/libllmessage.a
 -lcurl -lcares -lssl -lcrypto -lxmlrpc-epi
 ../llrender/libllrender.a ../llimage/libllimage.a
 ../llimagej2coj/libllimagej2coj.a -lopenjpeg -ljpeg -lpng12
 -lfreetype -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL
 ../llxml/libllxml.a ../llvfs/libllvfs.a ../llmath/libllmath.a
 ../llcommon/libllcommon.so -laprutil-1 -ldb-4.2 -luuid -ldb-4.2
 -luuid -lrt -lapr-1 -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt
 -lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lz -lexpat
 
 
 This might be a recent change in compiler which forces one to use
 GCC 4.1...  and I didn't see this one in jira.
 
 I'll work this issue out more to see if it is merely a
 GCC4.4/GCC4.1 difference.
 
 
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Re: [opensource-dev] Snowglobe 2.0 sync with Viewer 2.0

2010-04-08 Thread Dzonatas Sol
I just tried it again, so now I can confirm there is no difference 
between a compilation with G++-4.1 or G++-4.4 in relation to this error.

Linking CXX executable secondlife-bin
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so: undefined 
reference to `uuid_gener...@uuid_1.0'
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so: undefined 
reference to `uuid_unparse_lo...@uuid_1.0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Maybe something special about libSM that it needs a specific version of 
libuuid, or maybe as Lance suggested, it doesn't use the the LL supplied 
versus the system version.

Lance Corrimal wrote:
 I'm having the same problem on opensuse 11.2.
 until recently it built fine... after some change introduced a script 
 which replaces the prebuilt libs with the systemwide installed ones, 
 it stopped building with exactly that error.

 why do i even have to have the build script download the prebuilt libs 
 when they dont get used?


 bye,
 LC


 Am Donnerstag 08 April 2010 schrieb Dzonatas Sol:
   
 I got it to compile to the secondlife-bin link stage, but then I
 got a link error:

 /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so:
 undefined reference to `uuid_gener...@uuid_1.0'
 /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/libSM.so:
 undefined reference to `uuid_unparse_lo...@uuid_1.0'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 It does try to link against libuuid, with this link order:

  -lndofdev -lXinerama -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt
 -lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lGLU -lGL -lSM
 -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL
 -latk-1.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lXinerama -lglib-2.0
 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0
 -lpango-1.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpangoxft-1.0
 -lxmlrpc-epi -lELFIO
 ../viewer_components/login/liblllogin.a ../llmessage/libllmessage.a
 -lcurl -lcares -lssl -lcrypto -lxmlrpc-epi
 ../llrender/libllrender.a ../llimage/libllimage.a
 ../llimagej2coj/libllimagej2coj.a -lopenjpeg -ljpeg -lpng12
 -lfreetype -lGLU -lGL -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext -lSDL
 ../llxml/libllxml.a ../llvfs/libllvfs.a ../llmath/libllmath.a
 ../llcommon/libllcommon.so -laprutil-1 -ldb-4.2 -luuid -ldb-4.2
 -luuid -lrt -lapr-1 -lboost_program_options-gcc41-mt
 -lboost_regex-gcc41-mt -lz -lexpat


 This might be a recent change in compiler which forces one to use
 GCC 4.1...  and I didn't see this one in jira.

 I'll work this issue out more to see if it is merely a
 GCC4.4/GCC4.1 difference.


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[opensource-dev] [Fwd: Re: Another crazy idea... what list for this one?]

2010-04-08 Thread Jeff Eastman

Forgot to reply-all. I'm used to lists that reply-to-list as default.
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Something similar, I'd be keen to have the viewer slide into my desktop 
as my background, with icons floating over it, whenever I'm not 
interacting in-world. That way I can stay logged in to my virtual 
office, use in-world voice and work with my foreground desktop until I 
need to react in-world again.


Jeff


Glen Canaday wrote:
What would the appropriate list for this be? I'm pretty sure it's not 
this one,


Anyone know of a flash desktop exporter? For two-way web interaction 
with your own desktop? Killer app for shared media... using your own 
computer! ;)


I've thought of perhaps a web-based desktop environment to render / 
export my X display to my web server with which I can then interact and 
work while logged into SL. Perhaps a buffer program that captures the X 
drawables and hands them to a flash app for web-based display. Imagine 
remote server admin possibilities, etc... not having to minimize SL to 
check job progress; share the desktop as if you were in the same room. 
Devs could literally be looking at a desktop thousands of miles away 
like gotomeeting, watching the same compile messages fly by, using the 
same primary display from inworld without the hassle of the software 
incompatibilities that gotomeeting and ultravnc have beyond running the 
exporter itself. Export a second desktop or stretch it across two 
shared-media prims like dual monitor setups in RL. The virtual workplace 
redefined. Office in your underwear, 'cept your av is wearing the ugly, 
ill-fitting business suit your boss likes.


--GC

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