Re: [opensource-dev] Where do I ask for a feature ?
Hi Laurent, To request a feature, simply log into https://jira.secondlife.com/ and click the "Create Issue" button in the upper right-hand corner of the page. The project will be VWR and your issue type is "Feature Request". Once you submit it, we'll pick it up in triage and review! Best, Esbee On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Laurent Bechir wrote: > > Hello, > > Where do I ask for a feature ? Should I open a Jira ? Mine is not a big > one, it's just a check box in the confirmation window which arise when I > share an object with someone to have the possibility to disable it like > I can with other windows (teleport, ...) > > Thank you > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] [META] Related JIRA Issue Creation
Hi Ricky, I would suggest that you submit the epic-level user story as a feature request, then each of the compatible features could be added to the feature request as a sub-task. That will make it easier for me to review when you submit. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to help! Best, Esbee On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Ricky wrote: > I have several ideas that I would like to put on the JIRA. However, > each of these ideas is composed of several logically separate > features. Should I just make one large single JIRA entry, and split > it up if asked, or should I enter each separately, and then create a > meta issue that combines them into the cohesive whole? > > For example I'm working out some upgrades for the minimap/nearby list. > On my brainstorm paper this one idea has no less than 6 compatible > features that, when combined, create a single major user interaction > upgrade in that area. (IMHO :P ) > > Thanks, > Ricky > Cron Stardust > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Friday Sprint Review Meeting - Canceled
Just a quick note to let you know I'm canceling the Sprint Review Meeting scheduled for this Friday at 8am PT. We didn't introduce a pile of new features this Sprint and have been mostly focused on stablization and crashers. I've also not made enough progress on Preferences design and requirements to review that either. (I apologize for that and will work to get this done as quickly as possible). We'll do a smaller review at our Sprint Retrospective on Monday. If you have any questions or comments. Please let me know! Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Esbee's office hours canceled today.
I'll be out of the office this morning, so my office hours will be canceled for this week. We'll resume next week! Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Canceled Today - Snowstorm Sprint Review Meeting
Good morning all, Sprint 5 has been focused on overall stabilization of the current Viewer 2.2 Beta. As such, we have no new user stories that require product review and discussion, so I'm canceling today's Sprint Review meeting. We'll still get together on Monday for the Sprint Retrospective and I encourage everybody to be thinking about how we did this sprint and how we can improve in the next. --Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] TIME CHANGE - Snowstorm Daily Scrum - Friday, October 8, 2010
Due to a company meeting tomorrow scheduled at the same time, we've moved the Snowstorm Team Daily Scrum time to 11:30am PT (for this Friday only). You can view our updated calendar, here: https://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/lindenlab.com/embed?src=lindenlab.com_k0e2g2gmqrhm0esbrh31f0q...@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&gsessionid=OK - Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Esbee's Office Hour Canceled for this week
I've got a conflicting meeting today, so I need to cancel my office hours this week. We'll resume next week. Sorry for the late notice, folks! - Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Daily Scrum Update - Tuesday, October 5, 2010
We've all been working on our end-of-year reviews. Nothing to worry about! :) (We'll make a point of being more clear about this in future, sorry!) - Esbee On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Ponzu wrote: > I hope all this HR stuff is OK. It is making us nervous out here. > > > > > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Daily Scrum Update - Tuesday, October 5, 2010
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
*General Notes*
* Merge Monkey of the Day: Merov
*Team Status*
*Merov Linden*
*PAST*
* JIRA triage to prepare sprint planning
* Merge Monkeying: move things in beta, v-d, also pulled beta in v-d so we
have those fixed in v_d as well.
* More HR stuff
*FUTURE*
* Sprint planning!
* STORM-137 : FMOD issue: fix upload issue with Brad. Hopefully, the rest
will be easy.
* STORM-105 : Perf decompression: put new data out, check the work done by
opensource-dev community on similar tests.
* STORM-306: back burner: bissect and incremental builds till I pinpoint the
culprit...
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* Kakadu license upgrade
*Oz Linden*
*PAST*
* Clarified wiki documentation on where to get code and download binaries
** Updated to use new auto-update direct links
** Submitted request to change main download page to match
* TPVP Changes
*FUTURE*
* Worked on proposals for open code review and build systems
* Get current on autobuild developments
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* none
*Q Linden*
*PAST*
* HR stuff
* Q4 planning
* Further meetings on test automation
* Writing automation for LLDir
*FUTURE*
* HR stuff
* Q4 planning
* Answer PE questions on STORM-325 and 295
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* My brain
*Esbee Linden*
*PAST*
* VWR triage
* Sprint 5 planning
* Backlog reviews
* Q4 planning
* Systems requirements research
*FUTURE*
* VWR triage
* Sprint 5 Planning
* Viewer roadmap planning
* Systems requirements research
* Q4 planning
* HR Stuff
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* None
*Paul ProductEngine *
*PAST*
* STORM-263 Cog button in lower-left of sidebar panel does not close popup
menu on second click
** Fixed, tomorrow will test and send for a review
*FUTURE*
* other bugs
*IMPEDIMENTS*
*none
*Andrew ProductEngine*
*PAST*
* Bug STORM-264 (Resize grab areas on detached sidebar panels are tiny and
unmarked)
** Reviewed.
* Bug STORM-325 ("i" button no longer opens profiles).
** Reproduced in viewer-beta, investigated, found changeset with fix in
viewer-development and left comment in ticket.
* Major bug STORM-295 (Mini-inspector fades out if adjust voice volume).
** Reproduced in viewer-beta, investigated, found changeset with fix in
viewer-development and left comment in ticket.
* Major bug STORM-315 (Changes to Environment Editor are not saved and do
not persist across sessions).
** Started investigating. Estimate- 6 hours.
*FUTURE*
* STORM-315 (Changes to Environment Editor are not saved and do not persist
across sessions).
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* STORM-295 and STORM-325 are fixed in viewer-development. What should be
done with these fixes? Should changesets with them be transplanted from one
repository to another, or simply fixed the same way manually, or left
untouched to wait merge with development?
*Vadim ProductEngine*
OOO - Vacation. Will be back to office on Oct, 11th.
*Seth ProductEngine (Sergey)*
*PAST*
* BUG (STORM-316) Debug: Inventory.Folders by Name/Sort by Date/Sort by
Name/System Folders to Top Do not apply and settings changes do not persist
after relogging.
** Investigated. Waiting for Esbee's reply in JIRA.
* BUG (STORM-314) Wear button in My Appearance greyed out
** Investigated. Could not reproduce with reporter's scenario. Probably
misfiled.
* BUG (STORM-310) crash after setting sound preferences
** Could not reproduce.
* BUG (STORM-305) Undocked minimized SP tabs are restored after re-login
** WIP.
*FUTURE*
* BUG (STORM-305) Undocked minimized SP tabs are restored after re-login
** Estimated: 4 hours.
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* STORM-316 needs answer from Esbee (?)
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[opensource-dev] Daily Scrum Update - Monday, October 4, 2010
These emails keep getting corrupted on send (likely due to my extraneous
formatting).
You can also view the daily updates on the wiki, here:
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive
But here's a far less fancy update for those who prefer email! :)
- Esbee
*Daily Scrum Update - Monday, October 4*
*
*
*General Notes*
* Merge Monkey of the Day: Merov
*Team Status*
*Merov Linden*
*PAST*
* STORM-137: fmod on Windows: fixed fmod.dl not been copied over to
build-vc80/newview/RelWithDebInfo. Modif in viewer_manifest.py and
cmake/CMakeLists.txt. Committed to dev branch.
* STORM-306: water flicker issue: identified the issue as being introduced
mid-July in the viewer code.
* STORM-330 : Crash in texture rendering: got that crash under the debugger
on Windows and logged it immediately.
* HR stuff
*FUTURE*
* New round of SG JIRA scrubbing to prepare sprint planning
* Merge Monkeying
* STORM-137 : FMOD issue: fix upload issue with Brad. Hopefully, the rest
will be easy.
* STORM-105 : Perf decompression: put new data out, check the work done by
opensource-dev community on similar tests.
* STORM-281: integrate?
* STORM-306: back burner: bissect and incremental builds till I pinpoint the
culprit...
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* Kakadu license upgrade
*Oz Linden*
*PAST*
* Caught up on email from my vacation
* Answered questions from a couple of people on Contribution Agreements
* Office Hour
* Put in request for change to the download page for Development builds
* Started running third party viewer crash reports
*FUTURE*
* Clarify wiki documentation on where to get code and download binaries
* Get current on autobuild developments
* Work on proposals for open code review and build systems
* Help with code reviews?
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* none
*Q Linden*
*PAST*
* HR stuff, administration
* Planning Q4
* Documenting release process
* Crashhunting in beta
* Meeting on test automation
* Looking into antialiasing
*FUTURE*
* Answer PE questions on STORM-325 and 295
* HR stuff
* Q4 planning
* Further meetings on test automation
* Writing automation for LLDir
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* paperwork/planning blocking me from coding
*Esbee Linden*
*PAST*
* VWR triage
* Process discussions
* Bug hunting
* Backlog reviews
* Set up new meeting times for Sprint Planning, Retrospective, and Review
meetings
* HR Stuff
* Q4 planning
*FUTURE*
* VWR triage
* Backlog grooming & new feature request review
* Prep for Sprint 5
* Viewer roadmap planning
* Systems requirements research
* HR Stuff
* Q4 planning
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* None
*Paul ProductEngine *
*PAST*
* STORM-263 Cog button in lower-left of sidebar panel does not close popup
menu on second click
** Fixed, tomorrow will test and send for a review
*FUTURE*
* other bugs
*IMPEDIMENTS*
*none
*Andrew ProductEngine*
*PAST*
* Bug STORM-264 (Resize grab areas on detached sidebar panels are tiny and
unmarked)
** Reviewed.
* Bug STORM-325 ("i" button no longer opens profiles).
** Reproduced in viewer-beta, investigated, found changeset with fix in
viewer-development and left comment in ticket.
* Major bug STORM-295 (Mini-inspector fades out if adjust voice volume).
** Reproduced in viewer-beta, investigated, found changeset with fix in
viewer-development and left comment in ticket.
* Major bug STORM-315 (Changes to Environment Editor are not saved and do
not persist across sessions).
** Started investigating. Estimate- 6 hours.
*FUTURE*
* STORM-315 (Changes to Environment Editor are not saved and do not persist
across sessions).
*IMPEDIMENT*S
* STORM-295 and STORM-325 are fixed in viewer-development. What should be
done with these fixes? Should changesets with them be transplanted from one
repository to another, or simply fixed the same way manually, or left
untouched to wait merge with development?
*Vadim ProductEngine*
OOO - Vacation. Will be back to office on Oct, 11th.
*Seth ProductEngine (Sergey)*
*PAST*
* BUG (STORM-316) Debug: Inventory.Folders by Name/Sort by Date/Sort by
Name/System Folders to Top Do not apply and settings changes do not persist
after relogging.
** Investigated. Waiting for Esbee's reply in JIRA.
* BUG (STORM-314) Wear button in My Appearance greyed out
** Investigated. Could not reproduce with reporter's scenario. Probably
misfiled.
* BUG (STORM-310) crash after setting sound preferences
** Could not reproduce.
* BUG (STORM-305) Undocked minimized SP tabs are restored after re-login
** WIP.
*FUTURE*
* BUG (STORM-305) Undocked minimized SP tabs are restored after re-login
** Estimated: 4 hours.
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* STORM-316 needs answer from Esbee (?)
*Andrey ProductEngine*
*PAST*
* smoke test of 210...@viewer-development
* integrated tickets verification on 210...@viewer-development
*FUTURE*
* regression testing of 210...@viewer-development in scope of changes from
previous development builds
*IMPEDIMENTS*
* none
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[opensource-dev] New Snowstorm Team Scrum Meeting Times
Hi all, I've just finished adjusting our team calendar to reflect our new meeting times - these should work well for both east and west coasters moving forward. :) *Snowstorm Team Daily Scrum - *Daily from 10:30-10:45am PT *Sprint Planning Meeting - *Every two weeks on Tuesday from 10-1pm PT *Next one is Tuesday, Oct 5* *Sprint Review Meeting - *Every two weeks on Friday from 1-2pm PT *Next one is Friday, Oct 15* *Sprint Retrospective Meeting - *Every two weeks on Monday from 11:30-12:30pm PT *Next one if Monday, Oct 18* * * *Snowstorm Team Members - If you have any overlaps, please make every effort to rearrange other meetings so we won't have to move these meetings around weekly. Thank you!!* * * Cheers! Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] New features in beta version of today... ?
As Wolfpup notes, we didn't get the work from Richard until after the Viewer 2.2 Beta was cut. We won't be introducing new work from viewer-development until this Beta cycle is complete and the current beta has gone to Release. - Esbee On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:54 AM, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > Actualy Richard Linden’s work landed in viewer-development two days after > the beta was branched off. And there are some issues that have come about > since the drop that are being worked on. So his work should appear in the > next beta after all the issues have been corrected(bug fixing). > > > > *From:* opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [mailto: > opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] *On Behalf Of *Hitomi Tiponi > *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 8:46 AM > *To:* Opensource_dev > *Subject:* Re: [opensource-dev] New features in beta version of today... ? > > > > There isn't much there - mainly bug fixes and tidying up. Even since that > release there has been very little new functionaliy. > > Incidentally it seems that 210676 bears little resemblance to 210670 or > 210680 - maybe Esbee got fed up of all the changes that Richard Linden did > to the Viewer and ditched them (despite them having come in between beta > versions). I know I was as they plugged a loophole (using 'panels' under > 'layout_stack') that I was exploiting to get StarLight to work and meant > several hours of re-coding :(. > > >Hello, > > > >Is there new features in this week version of 2.2 beta viewer like there > >was last week or is it just bug fixes this time ? Im' trying to do > >videos in french to show the new features when they are some :) > > > >Thank you > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3170 - Release Date: 10/01/10 > 02:34:00 > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Reminder - New time for Snowstorm Daily Scrum Meetings
Good morning all, My email to the list appears not to have made it to the list yesterday, so I'm resending now. Starting today, the Snowstorm Daily Scrum meetings will now be held at 10:30am PT. I'll be announcing new times for our sprint planning, retrospective and review meetings by the end of the day as well. Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Sorry I missed the Scrum this morning
Hey all, I'm very sorry I missed the Daily Scrum today. I've been on the phone most of the morning due to a family emergency. Given that we're in between sprints, daily stand-ups have been spotty the past week anyway, but we'll resume next week with a normal schedule (and likely a new meeting time). Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] 2.0 Absolute Dealbreaker - script count feature request
Hi Miss C, The script count feature you requested is something that the Snowstorm Team wouldn't work on as its not really a Viewer feature - requiring mostly work on the server-side. I've moved the issue to our Land team so they can evaluate and prioritize the request. Unfortunately, the Land Team's tasks are not publicly visible in the new Jira set up. The ticket was moved intact with all the supporting data and will be given proper consideration. Best, Esbee This is really a request for a new script function to report # of scripts on an avatar; it's not a viewer feature (or even possible to do correctly/reliably with current grid protocols). Kicking to the Land team for evaluation/prioritization. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, miss c wrote: > Apparently it was moved, leaped the the land group, but I cant access where > it went either. Below are the details I added, worked real hard on getting > all information needed, all the referencing files uploaded, had 50 something > votes, now gone, I hope it is taken seriously. > > Miss > > [ > https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23200?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel] > > Esbee Linden updated VWR-23200: > --- > > Summary: Script count feature request (was: Script Count - 2.0 > Absolute Dealbreaker - script count feature request) > > This is really a request for a new script function to report # of scripts > on an avatar; it's not a viewer feature (or even possible to do > correctly/reliably with current grid protocols). Kicking to the Land team > for evaluation/prioritization. > > > Script count feature request > > - > > > >Key: VWR-23200 > >URL: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-23200 > >Project: 1. Second Life Viewer - VWR > > Issue Type: New Feature > > Components: Avatar/Character, Building (in-world), Performance, > Scripting, Source Code, User Interface > >Environment: Second Life 2.2.1 (210525) Sep 25 2010 08:22:37 > (Second Life Development) > > Release Notes > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ8300 @ 2.50GHz (2493.73 MHz) > > Memory: 6078 MB > > OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista 64-bit Service Pack 1 (Build 6001) > > Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. > > Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series > > Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.17.0010.1041 > > OpenGL Version: 3.3.10151 Compatibility Profile Context > > libcurl Version: libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3 > > J2C Decoder Version: KDU > > Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.74 > > Qt Webkit Version: 4.6 (version number hard-coded) > > Voice Server Version: Not Connected > > Built with MSVC version 1400 > >Reporter: Miss Wright > >Priority: Severe > >Attachments: CMakeLists.txt, floateravatarlist.cpp, llstartup.cpp, > llviewermenu.cpp, menu_pie_attachment.xml, menu_pie_avatar.xml, > menu_pie_object.xml, menu_pie_self.xml, message.xml, scriptcounter.cpp, > scriptcounter.h, scriptcountsample.jpg > > > > > > As a sim owner I MUST have a script counter so we can keep our scripts > low in the sim because of the excessive use of resizing scripts. Several > times a day we have an exercise in our sim where we make an estate > announcement to count your scripts and your neighbors to reduce the load on > the servers. Even though we do this several times a day there is always > someone who forgot their scripts in something, you can easily find a good > 5-10 people with 400+ scripts on them. I am completely sold on the 2.0 code > and can live without some of the other features in Phoenix/Emerald, but this > one is an absolute deal breaker for me. I combed through the code to try > and see if this was something handled in xml commands and its not, its in > the Phoenix/Emerald code. Can we please get this option. > > Also the option of avatar announcement and script fluctuation upon > entering the sim helps combat scripts, this would be helpful in 2.0 but I > wouldn't call it a deal breaker. I have it announcing when an avatar enters > and announcing region script count change so i know as soon as they enter > and their script count if I am paying attention. > > TY > > Miss > > UPDATE: MORE INFO: If you are using a viewer based on the Emerald code > base such as Emergance or Phoenix you can rightclick any object including > avatars and it will count how many scripts are attached to the avatar or are > inside the object. See referencing picture.You then receive this message... > > [10:36] Counting scripts. Please wait. > > [10:36] Counted scripts from 14 attachments on amethys Inglewood: 540 > (this is someone that volunteered for this test) > > Looking through the Phoenix, Wasabi, Emergance, & Emerald XML I find that > all self object, attachment pie menus point to a function called > "Object.VisibleScriptCount" > > The code is found in the menuviewer.xml > >
[opensource-dev] [Important] Plan for this week -- canceling Sprint Retrospective (today) & Sprint Planning (tomorrow)
Good morning all, I chatted with Q this morning about the Viewer 2.2 Beta and how we can best spend our time over the coming week. Based on our discussion, I've *canceled the Sprint Retrospective planned for today and also the Sprint Planning meeting scheduled for tomorrow*. Instead, we'd like everybody to *focus on Viewer 2.2 Beta bug fixing and stabilization*. If you have any questions, please ping Q or myself in #snowstorm (LL-internal IRC) or #opensl (public IRC) - or respond to this email. I'm going to go through our current list of bugs in STORM right now and update their affects versions tags so we know which ones are most important for the Viewer 2.2 Beta. Thanks! Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] UI Map
Good catch, Miss C! I'm seeing this in both the release and development Viewers. I talked to Q and he doesn't see any reason we can't make that page publicly accessible so I'll create a version of it on the public wiki and we'll change the reference on that floater as well. You can track the ticket here: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-201 Best, Esbee On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, miss c wrote: > I noticed that when I go into the debug menu on the login page to access > the UI tools, under the widget option there is a link to view widget lists, > but it takes me to wiki.lindenlab.com which is password protected. Would > be so nice to have access to those lists. > > TY > > Miss > > -- > *From:* miss c > *To:* opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com > *Sent:* Mon, September 20, 2010 11:56:44 PM > *Subject:* [opensource-dev] UI Map > > Hello, > > I am working on a new skin for Viewer 2.XX. I noticed that some of the > textures aren't even used and I am having difficulty finding the referencing > commands to apply them. Example would be the bottom panel background image, > which doesn't appear to be referenced in any of the xmls. Is there a UI map > or list of appropriate commands to apply the images? I have made many > changes but none seem to take effect. > > Thank you > Miss > > > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Esbee's Office Hour (Viewer Product Backlog and Idea Discussion) Canceled Tomorrow
Good evening all, Unfortunately, I need to cancel my office hour (normally held Wednesdays from 8-9am PT) because I'll be out of the office. We'll resume next week! Cheers, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Snowstorm Daily Scrum Summary - 09/14/2010
Date: Tue Sep 14, 2010 Also available here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive *=== General Notes ===* * First day of Sprint 4! Sprint Planning Meeting today from 7-9am PT * Sprint 4 declared, "The Maintenance Sprint!" *===Team Status===* * * * Aimee Linden PAST * Clean up voice client shutdown, which turned out less of a problem than I suspected, that's ready for code review, requested on the lists * Wrapping up some legal paperwork FUTURE * Kick off Sprint 4! IMPEDIMENTS * None. Tofu Linden Not available for Daily Scrum today Oz Linden PAST * Work on getting a codereview system set up * Office Hour FUTURE * Push codereview system more... * Wiki updates for getting source IMPEDIMENTS * none Merov Linden PAST * STORM-106, 115, 116, 117, 118: move those to "Integrated" * STORM-130 (VWR-22769) : libPNG build: Tried a change that allows for Boroondas change for standalone builders to be taken without breaking TC builds and those of us using prebuilt binaries. Waiting for TC to cycle through it. * Snowglobe backlog: moved a bunch of JIRAs and created a bunch more that have SG2.x fixes but are still unfixed in viewer 2.1. Emailed to Esbee. * Emailed opensource-dev on perf tracking (while talking about jpeg2000 properties) FUTURE * STORM-104 (VWR-22761) : LLKDU upgrade. More on perf tracking while waiting for license to clear and new version to come. * Snowstorm backlog: more on this IMPEDIMENTS * Kakadu license upgrade Q Linden PAST * Talked to Wolfpup about taking over SNOW-102 and SNOW-103, no progress since yesterday FUTURE * Kick off Sprint 4! IMPEDIMENTS * None Esbee Linden PAST * Met with Q about Jira triage, and related Snowstorm process * Touched base with Orange, Gentle, and LordGregGreg about mtg next week after my move * Clean up Jira proposal * Lots of email * Prep for Sprint 4 FUTURE * Sprint 4 Planning * Backlog grooming & new feature request review * Send request to XD for friend permissions icons. * Write UI customization blog post. * Write end of Sprint 3 wrap-up blog post * VWR triage * Modify process for sending Viewer ideas/feature requests IMPEDIMENTS * None Paul ProductEngine OOO- vacation Andrew ProductEngine PAST * Bug STORM-99 (Select button inside Resident Chooser is disabled if invoke sharing from undocked My Inventory panel) ** Fixed and sent for integration. * Bug STORM-114 (IM chat history log in plain text mode looks ugly when displays avatar SLURLs) ** Sent for integration. * Bug STORM-123 (Resizing ability of nearby chatbar in bottomtray appears only after click) ** Created, fixed and sent for integration. * Bug STORM-124 (Replace "no matches found" with "loading" in the My Outfits tab) ** Closed as resolved. * Bug STORM-125 (The change of "My title" is saved without pressing "Save" button in the Group Profile) ** Closed as resolved. * Bug STORM-126 (Offline participants of Add hoc chat are shown in Recent Tab) ** Closed as resolved. * Bug STORM-109 (Undocked Block List panel has no horizontal scrollbar + verbs have fixed size) ** Closed as cannot reproduce. * Bug STORM-111 (Camera view angle resets during outfit editing when docking/undocking Edit Outfit panel) ** Closed as cannot reproduce. * Bug STORM-112 (EOLs are displayed as "squares" in the pick descriptions after minimize/restore undocked profile panel) ** Started investigating. Estimate 12h. FUTURE * STORM-112. IMPEDIMENTS * none Vadim ProductEngine PAST * Major bug STORM-101 (Sidebar settings should be account specific): ** Fixed. * Bug STORM-110 (Add More sub-panel resets its size if minimize/restore undocked Edit Outfit panel): ** Nasty bug. In current implementation of floater minimization (floater contents doesn't hide when minimized, but shriks, which moves panels in layout stack, including Add More) it's difficult to fix. Redoing floater minimization will cause a ton of new bugs. I have a crooked hack/fix. If I can still live with it in the morning, will commit. Otherwise will close bug as Will not fix FUTURE * STORM-110. IMPEDIMENTS * none Seth ProductEngine (Sergey) PAST * Getting familiar with new JIRA workflow. * BUG (STORM-108) Undocked Item Profile panel has no scrollbars ** Fixed FUTURE * BUG (VWR-22166) 'Item Profile' panel isn't udated if change name of that item from 'Object contents' floater ** Estimated: 4 hours * BUG (VWR-22157) My Landmarks: 'Cut' item should be greyed out in folder's context menu ** Estimated: 4 hours IMPEDIMENTS *These issues should be resolved as Fixed: ** (VWR-21132) [BSI] scroll bar resets to near the top of inventory search ** (VWR-21085) Scroller doesn't follow the cursor if cursor is being moved by keyboard arrow buttons Andrey ProductEngine PAST * smoke test on Win7/OSX against r209332 * tested bottom bar buttons drug&drop * re-tested fixes related to sidebar panels dock/undock FUTURE * regressi
Re: [opensource-dev] [SNOWSTORM] Reminder: No Daily Scrum tomorrow (9/14) - Instead, Sprint Planning from 7-9am PT
Great! Thanks, Anya. We'll still do a Daily Scrum update this morning - we'll use the first few minutes of the Sprint Planning meeting to do that. So hopefully by the time you arrive we'll be in Sprint Planning mode :) - Esbee On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Anya Kanevsky wrote: > Thank you, Esbee, for organizing! > > I updated etherpad with Monday's summaries anyway. > May be a little late to the planning but hope to make it. > > a > > 2010/9/13 Sarah (Esbee) Hutchinson > > Hi all, >> >> Just a quick reminder that we won't meet tomorrow at 6:30am PT for the >> Daily Scrum. Instead we'll meet from 7-9am PT for Sprint 4 Planning. >> >> With the big Jira switchover, I'm a bit behind organizing stories and >> defects for this sprint, but will try to get us ready tonight! >> >> See you tomorrow! >> >> Best, >> Esbee >> > > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Reminder: No Daily Scrum tomorrow (9/14) - Instead, Sprint Planning from 7-9am PT
Hi all, Just a quick reminder that we won't meet tomorrow at 6:30am PT for the Daily Scrum. Instead we'll meet from 7-9am PT for Sprint 4 Planning. With the big Jira switchover, I'm a bit behind organizing stories and defects for this sprint, but will try to get us ready tonight! See you tomorrow! Best, Esbee ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Snowstorm Daily Scrum Summary - 09/13/2010
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2010 Also available here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive *=== General Notes ===* * Last day of Sprint 3! * Merge Monkey of the Day: Merov *===Team Status===* * * * Aimee Linden PAST * STORM-121 Clean-up of voice client shutdown FUTURE * STORM-121 Finish off. IMPEDIMENTS * None. Tofu Linden PAST * llTextBox * Lots of Integrations! * Got my TeamCity staging task working FUTURE * llTextBox will definitely carry-over to the next sprint, lots still to do * Some OOO IMPEDIMENTS * none. Oz Linden PAST * Updated review and submission workflow descriptions * filing some new VWR issues * fixed Jira helpers around Hippotropolis * KDU license (met w/ contracts person to get started) FUTURE * Work on getting a codereview system set up * Office Hour * Wiki updates for getting source IMPEDIMENTS * none Merov Linden PAST * STORM-115, 116, 117, 118: wrote acceptance criteria / test plans for each of those issues * STORM-106: Chat translator: wrote acceptance criteria / test plan. Pulled into viewer-development. * VWR-22769 : libPNG build: Boroondas patch is making assumptions on symlinks that are accurate on Linux but not on Mac and Windows. We need to so this differently if at all. FUTURE * STORM-104 (VWR-22761) : LLKDU upgrade. More on perf tracking while waiting for license to clear and new version to come. * Snowglobe backlog: go through that old list and migrate things to Snowstorm. IMPEDIMENTS * Kakadu license upgrade Q Linden PAST * Working on STORM-102 and STORM-103. They are not ready for primtime. Q will tackle those. Would like to get that into the next sprint for a task. FUTURE * Continued work on STORM 102 and STORM 103 * VWR triage * Prep for Sprint 4 IMPEDIMENTS * None Esbee Linden PAST * Send Q draft of Jira VWR workflow notes * Set up sprints in GH * Move Product Backlog to a "Version" in Jira to separate it from incoming bugs * VWR triage FUTURE * Schedule meeting with Orange, Gentle, and LordGregGreg. * Send request to XD for friend permissions icons. * Write UI customization blog post. * Write end of Sprint 3 wrap-up blog post * VWR triage * Prep for Sprint 4 * Modify process for sending Viewer ideas/feature requests IMPEDIMENTS * None Paul ProductEngine PAST Thu *VWR-22890 (Undocked profile panels loses verb buttons after minimize/restore) **In progress ~ 3 hours. Fri * STORM-93 (Appearance > 'Wearing' tab: Add Take off / Detach function to the gear menu) **Pushed *STORM-91 (Corrupted vertical scroll bar appears on 'Edit Outfit' panel if height of 'Add More' panel was changed) ** Pushed *STORM-89 (Undocked profile panels loses verb buttons after minimize/restore) **Fixed *VWR-22330 (Remove delay so that inspector affordance appears immediately) **Investigated and started working on. Estimate ~ 6 hours. FUTURE * vacation IMPEDIMENTS * none Andrew ProductEngine PAST Thu: * Bug VWR-22008 (People you called via Adhoc are not shown in Recent tab). **Asked Anya question in JIRA * Bug VWR-22888 (Empty space appears in the top of Home side panel after redocking) ** Looked for fix for a while, found a hack, but fortunately won't need to use it, b/c Vadim's fix for other issue fixes this as well. Reassigned to Vadim. * STORM-94 (Increase minimum width allowed for undocked panels) **Fixed, ready for integration. *STORM-97 (Back button in the undocked Landmark Info panel moves out of panel on width resize) **Fixed, ready for integration. *STORM-99 (Select button inside Resident Chooser is disabled if invoke sharing from undocked My Inventory panel) **Started investigating. No estimate yet. Fri *Bug STORM-99 (Select button inside Resident Chooser is disabled if invoke sharing from undocked My Inventory panel) ** Found both problems causing bug, fixed, need an hour to clean up and polish & will send for review FUTURE * Finish STORM-99 (Select button inside Resident Chooser is disabled if invoke sharing from undocked My Inventory panel). * Create ticket for resize of nearby chat appearing only on click and will start on it. * Will clear out tickets currently assigned to mew - a few can be closed. IMPEDIMENTS * none Vadim ProductEngine PAST Thu *Bug VWR-22896 aka STORM-92 (Panel state resets on dock/undock): **Fixed. *Bug VWR-22888 aka STORM-96 (Empty space appears in the top of Home side panel after redocking): **Fixed. *Bug STORM-98 (Update art for People and Groups default/placeholder icons): **Fixed, but asked Epic a question before commit to be safe. *Major bug VWR-22921 aka STORM-101 (Sidebar settings should be account specific): **Investigated, asked Andrey, will continue tomorrow *jira-wrangling *Fixed Paul's build again (problem with current Linux dist) *Code review Fri: * mostly administrative: ** Fixed tickets with known incorrect status ** Moved VWR tickets to STORM that we will be working on ** Discussed JIRA issues with Sue. She fixed them super-fast *
[opensource-dev] Snowstorm Daily Scrum Summary - 09/09/2010
Date: Thu Sep 9, 2010 Also available here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive *=== General Notes ===* * Don't forget to grab tasks from the Sprint Backlog and update your time remaining on that task each day! * Merge Monkey of the Day: Merov *===Team Status===* *Aimee Linden* *PAST* OOO *Tofu Linden* *PAST* * DEV-30773 llTextBox() * Some Coverity bug fixes * SNOW-606 juggling (and ultimate backout) * Some OOO *FUTURE* * DEV-30773 llTextBox() * Make myself a teamcity task for staging * Some OOO *IMPEDIMENTS* * Linux build machine needs a bit of system-image love - little fuzzy on who owns that, pinged CG and Sabin. *Oz Linden* OOO *Merov Linden* *PAST* * VWR-22761 : LLKDU upgrade: Perf tracking ** Got a KDU baseline and compared with OpenJpeg. First data show that OpenJpeg 4 times slower in decompression than KDU. ** Posted a doc: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Performance_Testers ** First commit to dev repo : https://bitbucket.org/merov_linden/viewer-development-vwr-22761/changeset/71b1676532b3 * VWR-22759 : Chat Translator: Got green from Esbee and Q on Design Review *FUTURE* * VWR-22761 : LLKDU upgrade: Polish doc, get more baseline data * VWR-22759 : Chat Translator: Move to next stage *IMPEDIMENTS* * Kakadu license upgrade *Q Linden* *OOO* *Esbee Linden* *PAST* * Worked on draft of Jira VWR workflow proposal and discuss w/Q * Moved Snowstorm Team Backlog to GH * Trying out new Jira VWR workflows *FUTURE* * Schedule meeting with Orange, Gentle, and LordGregGreg for next week. * Share UI customization notes and sketches with Rhett from XD team * Finish draft of Jira VWR workflow proposal * Set up sprints in GH *IMPEDIMENTS* * Not receiving Tofu's email to mailing list (still not sure why) *Paul ProductEngine* *PAST* * VWR-22346 (Appearance > 'Wearing' tab: Add Take off / Detach function to the gear menu) **Corrected according to Vadim's commentaries *FUTURE* * VWR-22169 (Delete outfit confirmation message doesn'r appear if use context or gear menu on 'My Outfits' tab) estimate ~ 8 hours *IMPEDIMENTS* *none *Andrew ProductEngine* *PAST* *Bug VWR-22008 (People you called via Adhoc are not shown in Recent tab). **Discussed with Andrey, didn't find solution. Will ask in jira when able to add watchers * Major bug VWR-22125 (Mini-inspector floater doesn't appear after click on 'i' icon in IM or Nearby chat window). **Found problem. Took more time due to additional bug (VWR-22898 - Some buttons disappear when clicked) **Fixed, will apply fix when Richard fixes VWR-22898 (Vadim linked them) * Bug VWR-22888 (Empty space appears in the top of Home side panel after redocking) **WIP. Estimate - 6h *FUTURE* *VWR-22888 (Empty space appears in the top of Home side panel after redocking) *IMPEDIMENTS* * none *Vadim ProductEngine* *PAST* * sent email to viewer-tech about problems building on Ubuntu 10.04, Tofu immediately merged the fix. ** later it turned out fix broke the build on LL servers, fix has been rolled back, discussion continues (?) * Filed a ticket (VWR-22898) regarding disappearing buttons problem. *Bug VWR-22891 (Docked IM window hides when try to share an item while My Inventory SP is undocked): **Fixed * Bug VWR-22896 (Panel state resets on dock/undock): **Fixed but want to test some more to prevent accidental regressions *FUTURE* *Paul's review request *Finish VWR-22896 *Other bugs *IMPEDIMENTS* * None *Seth ProductEngine (Sergey)* OOO - Vacation *Andrey ProductEngine* *PAST* * filed issues discovered yesterday during smoke test and VWR-20694 testing * started revision of existing TPE "regression" suite for viewer *FUTURE* * complete revision and identify gaps (Home, Picks/Classifieds, My Profile have no "formal" regression cases at least) * add sidetray panel docking/undocking test cases *IMPEDIMENTS* * none *Grumpity ProductEngine (Anya)* *PAST* *played with new jira *workflow followup *server testing followup *FUTURE* *detachable sidebar & bottom bar review *transition issues from VWR to STORM? *update sprint backlog *IMPEDIMENTS* *cannot transition issues from VWR to STORM ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] tpv list
Snowstorm isn't a Viewer, so there's no need to list it separately. Snowstorm is just the name of the team working on the official Second Life Viewer. Cheers, Esbee On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Altair Sythos wrote: > ehm is there a plan to list SnowStorm too? on list or Linden > Viewers paragraph (where SL2 and SnowGlobe already named) > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Snowstorm Daily Scrum Summary - 09/02/2010
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2010 Also available here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowstorm_Daily_Scrum_Archive *=== General Notes ===* * Don't forget to grab tasks from the Sprint Backlog and update your time remaining on that task each day! * Anya OOO thu-fri * Merge Monkey of the Day: Merov *===Team Status===* *Aimee* *PAST* * Test minimap panning and avatar inspectors * Merge and test teleporting multiple friends (VWR-22454) *FUTURE* * Check my issues have test plans attached. * "As a developer, I would like to clean up the way the voice code shuts down, so that it doesn't leak memory and satifies my OCD". * Find out what's happening with design review of VWR-21253 "As a user I would like to see who has permission to 'See my online status', 'See me on the map', or 'Edit, delete or take my objects'" (Seems to be some scope creep or overlap with display names stuff). *IMPEDIMENTS* * Need a yes/no to integrate from design review of VWR-21253 *Tofu* *PAST* * Serviced 9 integration requests * Landed jonathan yap's VWR-17801, iterated on it a bit * Reviewed teleport invite patch *FUTURE* * OOO * Probably more integrations * Investigate, finish or defer VWR-21717 'Classfied Ads - "Adult" cannot be chosen' *IMPEDIMENTS* * none. *Oz* *PAST* * Wiki updates * Organized posting of Development builds on secondlife.com *FUTURE* * Post first Development build on secondlife.com ? * More wiki updates * Send code review system proposal to systems team * Prep discussion of upcoming common code split *IMPEDIMENTS* * none not planned for *Merov* *PAST* * VWR-22761 : LLKDU upgrade: Code architecture study * VWR-22759 : Chat Translator: merged in merov_linden/viewer-development-features, asked Esbee for Design Review * Lots of JIRA gardening... *FUTURE* * VWR-22761 : LLKDU upgrade: perf data instrumentation, create forked repos for this *IMPEDIMENTS* * Kakadu license upgrade *Q* OOO *Esbee* *PAST* * Office Hours * Started Snowstorm Blog Post * Backlog grooming started * Prep for Dusan Writer Interview *FUTURE* *OOO (half day medical) * Interview with Dusan Writer * Meeting to discuss Jira triage * Jira triage *IMPEDIMENTS* * None *Paul* *PAST* * TASK vwr-21585 (Make all tabs support horizontal resizing) ** In progress. Estimate ~ 24 hours. *FUTURE* * TASK vwr-21585 (Make all tabs support horizontal resizing) *IMPEDIMENTS* *none *Andrew* *PAS*T * Task VWR-20702 (Bottom bar button reordering) ** In working on subtask VWR-20706 (Make sure auto-hiding and shrinking buttons still work) found a problem related to D&D implementation and to do with the Speak button. Will consult Mike tomorrow, everything else is done. Estimate - 3 hrs. * Sub-task VWR-22690(Saving/restoring button order). ** Investigated. Estimate- 5 hours. *FUTURE* * Finish and send for review VWR-20705 (Drag & Drop implementation) and VWR-20706 (Make sure auto-hiding and shrinking buttons still work). * VWR-22690 (Saving/restoring button order). *IMPEDIMENTS* * none *Vadim* *PAST* * Task VWR-21127 (Implement saving size and position of detached tabs): ** 70% complete. Estimate: 4 hours. * OOO sick part of the morning. *FUTURE* * Finish VWR-21127, approve integrating the whole feature (although most was done today by Tofu) *IMPEDIMENTS* * none *Sergey* *PAST* * Task (VWR-21060) Fix broken ability to open a side tray tab via shortcut, menu item or button outside of the Side Tray. ** Fixed. * Task (VWR-20696) Write code to allow for undocking/redocking of a sidebar tab ** Fixed calling onOpen() for undocked tabs. ** Fix dock/undock buttons changing depending on tab state. *FUTURE* * Bug (VWR-22166) 'Item Profile' panel isn't udated if change name of that item from 'Object contents' floater ** Estimated: 6 hours. * Bug (VWR-22157) My Landmarks: 'Cut' item should be greyed out in folder's context menu ** Estimated: 2 hours. *IMPEDIMENTS* * Do we need a new art for "Undock" button in Side Tray. For now I used the existing floater "Tear Off" button. * Task (VWR-20697) Write code to allow for redocking of a sidebar tab **Can we close it as "Misfiled" and leave only VWR-20696 with changed summary? *Anya* *PAST* * organizational / administrative *FUTURE* * OOO Thu - Fri *IMPEDIMENTS* * none ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Esbee Linden's OH Transcript Posted for 09/01/2010
Ha! Thanks. Patience is my specialty. And I think you're right about the script, I better find a different one to post these transcripts :) Thanks for pointing it out! Cheers, Esbee On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Dale Innis wrote: > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Esbee Linden wrote: > > > https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Esbee_Linden/Office_Hours/2010-09-01 > > You have th' patience of a saint. :) > > I think the script or whatever that generates the transcripts has a > bug or two. Note in the attendee list such amusing names as: > > 3 Person > Bring back > CloseChatOnReturn fails > Leave LOCATION > s Google > > fwiw, > Dale > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Requiring user stories for bug fix jiras?
Great explanation, Mike. User stories are preferred, but if you don't have one for a bug we're not going to turn it away. :) - Esbee On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Mike Monkowski wrote: > Latif Khalifa wrote: > > Looking through VWR-19505 I see the comment by the dev who made a fix > > that you have requested a user story. Do we really need user stories > > for bugs? > > I would expect the user story would be something like: > > "When I did X, I expected Y, but got Z." > > It helps to discriminate between bugs and feechurs working as designed. > > > Mike > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] SCRUM question: negative daily velocity
Our spreadsheet for Sprint 2 had some flaws. We weren't reporting our time remaining each day consistently and the calculations in my spreadsheet were slightly off. We're going to try a new spreadsheet for this next sprint (starting Tuesday) until we make the move to Greenhopper in a few weeks. - Esbee On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut < me...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Moriz Gupte wrote: > >> May I venture to share these questions: >> Regarding the snowstorm sprint2 backlog: I have always tried to observe >> other teams using scrum and I have a question regarding negative daily >> velocity values. I am not familiar with this and am thinking if this is the >> case, then it could mean that burndown graph Y axis would need negative >> values as well?? What does negative daily velocity actually mean? just a >> reflection of a task having been underestimated? >> > > I'm not the Scrum Master (it's Esbee :) ) but I think the issue with the > scrum spreadsheet is 2 folds: > 1. contingent reason - I (and may be others) was confused as to what to > report in the daily hours for each task. I was putting the time spent > instead of the time remaining on a task so it never got to zero. I see > "Done" tasks still mentioning time which seems strange. Today, I fixed my > tasks looking at how Esbee have done with hers, i.e. chipping down time from > the total. > 2. scrum reason - As we go through a task, we may (and often do) discover > new problems that need fixing and that we end up adding to the tally. That > actually creates a "negative velocity" if all you look at is the burndown > chart, i.e. the total remaining. > > Cheers, > - Merov > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
