Re: [opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-23 Thread Monty Brandenberg
On 6/23/2011 1:06 AM, Lee ponzu wrote:
 * 1. Second Life Viewer - VWR https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR
 * VWR-26093 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26093


 Mass avatar texture rebake and load failures resulting in blury and
 grey textures which do not resolve on their own
 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26093


 Already exists.  I added a comment and my logs to it.   Shoud this be a
 VWR Jira?  Or could it be related to some other system.

That's fine.  We'll move it around as needed.  And thanks for DEBUG
level info.

(Sim has the enable_simulator storm I hate.  Not the problem, just
sticks out)
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Re: [opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-22 Thread Lee ponzu
   - 1. Second Life Viewer - VWR https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR
   - VWR-26093 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26093

Mass avatar texture rebake and load failures resulting in blury and grey
textures which do not resolve on their
ownhttps://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26093

Already exists.  I added a comment and my logs to it.   Shoud this be a VWR
Jira?  Or could it be related to some other system.

ponzu

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Thickbrick Sleaford 
thickbrick.sleaf...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday 18 June 2011 20:00:04 Lee ponzu wrote:
  However, and unrelated to shadows, I began to notice last night that
 while
  my scenes had all downloaded, the avatars around me were still all gray.
   Their objects were OK, it was just their skin and cloth final bake that
 is
  missing.  They do show up after several minutes, but long after
 everything
  else.
 

 I've noticed avatar bakes taking very long to un-gray too, when trying the
 SL
 v2 viewer recently after not using it for a long-ish while. This is
 especially
 noticeable in crowded areas.

 Looking at the texture console, it looks like any fetch that is using udp
 (i.e. bakes, since they can not be fetched via http) is always at the
 bottom
 of the list, and usually gets bumped out quickly. I haven't tested this,
 but I
 get the feeling that the udp fetches are starved out of processing by the
 regular http fetches. If I stay a while in a gray people gathering, and
 then
 relog, the once-gray people have at least one discard level of their bakes
 quickly decoded, probably from cache. This makes me think that this is a
 prioritization issue, possibly caused by the quick turn-around of http
 textures.

 --
 Thickbrick
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Re: [opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-20 Thread Lee ponzu
If I can help gather any data let me know.


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) 
o...@lindenlab.com wrote:

 On 2011-06-18 16:43, Lee ponzu wrote:
  Extra symptom.  So, there I am, and the avatars are all rendered as
  expected, when  --blink-- one of them turns gray, like the texture got
  lost.  No, she didn't change to an all gray skin and outfit.  8-)

 This is, unfortunately, not new behavior.  I've seen it on and off for
 at least a couple of months but have not been able to pin it down.

 If we could organize an effort to 1) improve the instrumentation around
 avatar bakes, and then 2) hunt down the problems and stomp them, it
 would be a major win.

 I'd really like it to be true that by the end of 2011 no one in SL needs
 to have the what do I look like to you conversation any more.


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Re: [opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-20 Thread Monty Brandenberg
On 6/20/2011 5:20 PM, Lee ponzu wrote:
 If I can help gather any data let me know.

Jira + description of events with timeline + logfile


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Re: [opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-19 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2011-06-18 16:43, Lee ponzu wrote:
 Extra symptom.  So, there I am, and the avatars are all rendered as 
 expected, when  --blink-- one of them turns gray, like the texture got 
 lost.  No, she didn't change to an all gray skin and outfit.  8-)

This is, unfortunately, not new behavior.  I've seen it on and off for 
at least a couple of months but have not been able to pin it down.

If we could organize an effort to 1) improve the instrumentation around 
avatar bakes, and then 2) hunt down the problems and stomp them, it 
would be a major win.

I'd really like it to be true that by the end of 2011 no one in SL needs 
to have the what do I look like to you conversation any more.


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[opensource-dev] Is it just me? Avatar textures downloading last.

2011-06-18 Thread Lee ponzu
Wow!! Shadows are nice!

However, and unrelated to shadows, I began to notice last night that while
my scenes had all downloaded, the avatars around me were still all gray.
 Their objects were OK, it was just their skin and cloth final bake that is
missing.  They do show up after several minutes, but long after everything
else.

I was using 2.7.4.  however, I think I noticed this starting about a week
ago, when I was using the Jun 10 latest development build.  I also see it on
my Macbook pro, which has a slightly better gpu (n9400).

I saw the discussion of retrying to upload one's own texture.  Could that
fix, if it is even in yet, have had this effect?  I don't think so, but
perhaps...

Anyway, if I see this again, should I start a Jira?  Or maybe there is one
there already.

ponzu

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