RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-08 Thread Abhiram Shandilya
Just for everyone's benefit, there is a bug in OpenSSL that prevents ECDH-RSA 
cipher suites to be negotiated and this has been fixed in the latest stable 
snapshot.

For all the folks who recommends that ECDH-RSA and ECDH-ECDSA cipher suites 
should not be supported, can you point to literature that specifically 
recommends not using these cipher suites - I understand the principle of 
forward secrecy but why is it such a big concern for ECDH key exchange and not 
for RSA key exchange? And does OpenSSL provide any mitigation for this apparent 
weakness of ECDH using static keys.
Thanks
Abhi


From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] on 
behalf of Jakob Bohm [jb-open...@wisemo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:34 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On 11/5/2012 1:37 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM,  jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:
 On 02-11-2012 21:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jakob Bohm jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:

 (continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

 Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
 keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
 private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

 However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
 this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.

 Not at all - its good advice. Its called Key Separation, and its
 covered in the Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC), Chapter 13. I
 usually see folks trying to use the same key for signing and
 encryption. This is a slight twist in that they want to do signing and
 agreement.

 The HAC is available for free online at http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac/.

 I am aware of the general principle, but that is not my point at all.

 My point is that the very specific math of DSA signatures may enable
 specific attacks if the same key pair is used as a static DH key.

 Information on this possibility (or its absence) is obscured by replies
 like yours (and by similar general statements in official Government
 materials from NIST etc.).
 My apologies. I was not aware I was obscuring results. It was not my 
 intention.

 The OpenSSL list is a good list, but its OpenSSL implementation
 oriented. As such, its not the best place to ask number theoretic
 questions. To get your question answered, I would encourage you to ask
 on an appropriate list; or visit a university and talk to someone in
 the math department or teaching cryptography. (I still keep in touch
 with my former crypto instructor, so I would simply send an email).

 As far as I know, there are three such lists. First you can ask on
 Usenet's sci.crypt. Second, you can ask on Usenet's sci.math. I see
 David Wagner patrolling sic.crypt on occasion. Both of these lists
 will require you to wade though copious amounts of spam.

 Third, you can try Jack Llyod's Cryptography mailing list at
 http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo. Jack is the author of
 Botan, and a lot of first class crypto folks are active on his list,
 such as Jon Callas and Peter Guttman.

 I have omitted a number of influential and helpful folks, so please
 don't take offense if I did not name your favorite cryptographer. For
 what its worth, I don't think this is a conspiracy or a concerted
 effort to suppress your knowledge.

It is not as much my question as an uncertain basis for my reply to
an OpenSSL user about why his OpenSSL related software seems to
prevent him from doing this possibly dangerous thing.  As I would
probably not try to do that myself anyway, I am not that interested
in the mathematical proving or disproving of the actual existence
of the risk.  It was simply a caveat emptor attached to my advice.


Enjoy

Jakob
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-06 Thread Jakob Bohm

On 11/5/2012 1:37 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM,  jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:

On 02-11-2012 21:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jakob Bohm jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:


(continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.


Not at all - its good advice. Its called Key Separation, and its
covered in the Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC), Chapter 13. I
usually see folks trying to use the same key for signing and
encryption. This is a slight twist in that they want to do signing and
agreement.

The HAC is available for free online at http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac/.


I am aware of the general principle, but that is not my point at all.

My point is that the very specific math of DSA signatures may enable
specific attacks if the same key pair is used as a static DH key.

Information on this possibility (or its absence) is obscured by replies
like yours (and by similar general statements in official Government
materials from NIST etc.).

My apologies. I was not aware I was obscuring results. It was not my intention.

The OpenSSL list is a good list, but its OpenSSL implementation
oriented. As such, its not the best place to ask number theoretic
questions. To get your question answered, I would encourage you to ask
on an appropriate list; or visit a university and talk to someone in
the math department or teaching cryptography. (I still keep in touch
with my former crypto instructor, so I would simply send an email).

As far as I know, there are three such lists. First you can ask on
Usenet's sci.crypt. Second, you can ask on Usenet's sci.math. I see
David Wagner patrolling sic.crypt on occasion. Both of these lists
will require you to wade though copious amounts of spam.

Third, you can try Jack Llyod's Cryptography mailing list at
http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo. Jack is the author of
Botan, and a lot of first class crypto folks are active on his list,
such as Jon Callas and Peter Guttman.

I have omitted a number of influential and helpful folks, so please
don't take offense if I did not name your favorite cryptographer. For
what its worth, I don't think this is a conspiracy or a concerted
effort to suppress your knowledge.


It is not as much my question as an uncertain basis for my reply to
an OpenSSL user about why his OpenSSL related software seems to
prevent him from doing this possibly dangerous thing.  As I would
probably not try to do that myself anyway, I am not that interested
in the mathematical proving or disproving of the actual existence
of the risk.  It was simply a caveat emptor attached to my advice.


Enjoy

Jakob
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2 [AESGCM]

2012-11-04 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Dave Thompson wrote:

  From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org On Behalf Of Abhiram Shandilya
  Sent: Thursday, 01 November, 2012 21:31
 
 -dev added
 
  I configured my openssl RSA CA to add the key usage extension 
  for key agreement to the ECC certificate but even then it 
  does not work. Pre-TLS 1.2 cipher suites such as 
  ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA work fine but just not the TLS 1.2 cipher 
  suites with AESGCM.
 
 Looks like a bug to me. (1.0.1c) s3_lib.c ciphers C031 and C032 
 have kECDHe when it appears they should have kECDHr .
 

Should be fixed by this:

http://cvs.openssl.org/chngview?cn=22562

just hasn't made it into a release yet.

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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-04 Thread jb-openssl

On 02-11-2012 21:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jakob Bohm jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:

(continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.

Not at all - its good advice. Its called Key Separation, and its
covered in the Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC), Chapter 13. I
usually see folks trying to use the same key for signing and
encryption. This is a slight twist in that they want to do signing and
agreement.

The HAC is available for free online at http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac/.


I am aware of the general principle, but that is not my point at all.

My point is that the very specific math of DSA signatures may enable
specific attacks if the same key pair is used as a static DH key.

Information on this possibility (or its absence) is obscured by replies
like yours (and by similar general statements in official Government
materials from NIST etc.).

DSA/ECDSA is an algorithm which (like DES) is engineered on the edge,
such that almost any modification is unlikely to improve security, and
in fact likely to undermine it.  And unlike PKCS#1 RSA operations, there
is very little in the design which limits the ability of an attacker to
use one operation (DH exchange) to help break another (DSA signature)
or the other way round.


On 11/2/2012 9:06 PM, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

I thought the keys in ECC certificates can be used for both ECDH key
agreement and ECDSA digital signature.


-Original Message-
From: Erik Tkal
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:24 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

What if the server has an ECDH certificate?  Would that then be the
appropriate set of suites?



-Original Message-
From: Dr. Stephen Henson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:38 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:


Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what
it takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL
server should not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you
also mention why?

Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support
forward secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.


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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:15 PM,  jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:
 On 02-11-2012 21:46, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jakob Bohm jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:

 (continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

 Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
 keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
 private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

 However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
 this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.

 Not at all - its good advice. Its called Key Separation, and its
 covered in the Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC), Chapter 13. I
 usually see folks trying to use the same key for signing and
 encryption. This is a slight twist in that they want to do signing and
 agreement.

 The HAC is available for free online at http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac/.

 I am aware of the general principle, but that is not my point at all.

 My point is that the very specific math of DSA signatures may enable
 specific attacks if the same key pair is used as a static DH key.

 Information on this possibility (or its absence) is obscured by replies
 like yours (and by similar general statements in official Government
 materials from NIST etc.).
My apologies. I was not aware I was obscuring results. It was not my intention.

The OpenSSL list is a good list, but its OpenSSL implementation
oriented. As such, its not the best place to ask number theoretic
questions. To get your question answered, I would encourage you to ask
on an appropriate list; or visit a university and talk to someone in
the math department or teaching cryptography. (I still keep in touch
with my former crypto instructor, so I would simply send an email).

As far as I know, there are three such lists. First you can ask on
Usenet's sci.crypt. Second, you can ask on Usenet's sci.math. I see
David Wagner patrolling sic.crypt on occasion. Both of these lists
will require you to wade though copious amounts of spam.

Third, you can try Jack Llyod's Cryptography mailing list at
http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo. Jack is the author of
Botan, and a lot of first class crypto folks are active on his list,
such as Jon Callas and Peter Guttman.

I have omitted a number of influential and helpful folks, so please
don't take offense if I did not name your favorite cryptographer. For
what its worth, I don't think this is a conspiracy or a concerted
effort to suppress your knowledge.

Jeff
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RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-02 Thread Erik Tkal
What if the server has an ECDH certificate?  Would that then be the appropriate 
set of suites?


Erik Tkal
Juniper OAC/UAC/Pulse Development


-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] 
On Behalf Of Dr. Stephen Henson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:38 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what 
 it takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL 
 server should not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you also 
 mention why?
 

Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support forward 
secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.

Steve.
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-02 Thread Billy Brumley
 Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support forward
 secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.

ECDHE cipher suites as implemented in OpenSSL don't necessarily
support forward secrecy either. I wonder what it takes to get
SSL_OP_SINGLE_ECDH_USE option by default in the code base?

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RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-02 Thread Abhiram Shandilya
I thought the keys in ECC certificates can be used for both ECDH key agreement 
and ECDSA digital signature.

-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] 
On Behalf Of Erik Tkal
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:24 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

What if the server has an ECDH certificate?  Would that then be the appropriate 
set of suites?


Erik Tkal
Juniper OAC/UAC/Pulse Development


-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] 
On Behalf Of Dr. Stephen Henson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:38 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what 
 it takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL 
 server should not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you also 
 mention why?
 

Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support forward 
secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.

Steve.
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-02 Thread Jakob Bohm

(continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.

On 11/2/2012 9:06 PM, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

I thought the keys in ECC certificates can be used for both ECDH key agreement 
and ECDSA digital signature.


-Original Message-
From: Erik Tkal
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:24 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

What if the server has an ECDH certificate?  Would that then be the appropriate 
set of suites?



-Original Message-
From: Dr. Stephen Henson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:38 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:


Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what
it takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL
server should not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you also 
mention why?


Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support forward 
secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.





Enjoy

Jakob
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jakob Bohm jb-open...@wisemo.com wrote:
 (continuing TOFU posting to keep the thread somewhat consistent)

 Given some of the mathematical restrictions on parameters needed to
 keep DSA and ECDSA safe from attackers, I don't think using the same
 private key for ECDSA and ECDH is a good/safe idea.

 However I am not a genius cryptanalyst, so I cannot guarantee that
 this is really dangerous, it is just a somewhat educated guess.
Not at all - its good advice. Its called Key Separation, and its
covered in the Handbook of Applied Cryptography (HAC), Chapter 13. I
usually see folks trying to use the same key for signing and
encryption. This is a slight twist in that they want to do signing and
agreement.

The HAC is available for free online at http://cacr.uwaterloo.ca/hac/.

Jeff

 On 11/2/2012 9:06 PM, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 I thought the keys in ECC certificates can be used for both ECDH key
 agreement and ECDSA digital signature.

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Tkal
 Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:24 AM
 To: openssl-users@openssl.org
 Subject: RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

 What if the server has an ECDH certificate?  Would that then be the
 appropriate set of suites?


 -Original Message-
 From: Dr. Stephen Henson
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:38 PM
 To: openssl-users@openssl.org
 Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

 On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what
 it takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL
 server should not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you
 also mention why?


 Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support
 forward secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.
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RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2 [AESGCM]

2012-11-02 Thread Dave Thompson
 From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org On Behalf Of Abhiram Shandilya
 Sent: Thursday, 01 November, 2012 21:31

-dev added

 I configured my openssl RSA CA to add the key usage extension 
 for key agreement to the ECC certificate but even then it 
 does not work. Pre-TLS 1.2 cipher suites such as 
 ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA work fine but just not the TLS 1.2 cipher 
 suites with AESGCM.

Looks like a bug to me. (1.0.1c) s3_lib.c ciphers C031 and C032 
have kECDHe when it appears they should have kECDHr .


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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-01 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 I ran openssl s_server with an ECC certificate signed by an RSA Root CA. When 
 I try to connect using s_client and a TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suite (eg 
 ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 or ECDH-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256), the connection fails 
 with s_server printing the following error: 3086918464:error:1408A0C1:SSL 
 routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher:s3_srvr.c:1353:. Can someone 
 please tell me why this doesn't work? Here are the commands I used:
 
 Starting s_server:
 openssl s_server -accept 4433 -key ./key.pem -cert cert.pem
 
 Connecting with s_client:
 openssl s_client -connect localhost:4433 -cipher ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256
 

You probably don't want ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 as it is a fixed ECDH
ciphersuite (if you do you need to use an appropriate curve in the EE
certificate and include key agreement in the key usage extension, if present).
You should try ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256 which uses ephemeral ECDH.

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RE: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-01 Thread Abhiram Shandilya
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what it takes to get 
this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL server should not support TLS 
1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you also mention why?

I configured my openssl RSA CA to add the key usage extension for key agreement 
to the ECC certificate but even then it does not work. Pre-TLS 1.2 cipher 
suites such as ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA work fine but just not the TLS 1.2 cipher 
suites with AESGCM.
Thanks
Abhi

 
-Original Message-
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] 
On Behalf Of Dr. Stephen Henson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:40 AM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

On Thu, Nov 01, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 I ran openssl s_server with an ECC certificate signed by an RSA Root CA. When 
 I try to connect using s_client and a TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suite (eg 
 ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 or ECDH-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256), the connection fails 
 with s_server printing the following error: 3086918464:error:1408A0C1:SSL 
 routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher:s3_srvr.c:1353:. Can someone 
 please tell me why this doesn't work? Here are the commands I used:
 
 Starting s_server:
 openssl s_server -accept 4433 -key ./key.pem -cert cert.pem
 
 Connecting with s_client:
 openssl s_client -connect localhost:4433 -cipher 
 ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256
 

You probably don't want ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 as it is a fixed ECDH 
ciphersuite (if you do you need to use an appropriate curve in the EE 
certificate and include key agreement in the key usage extension, if present).
You should try ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256 which uses ephemeral ECDH.

Steve.
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Re: ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-11-01 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Abhiram Shandilya wrote:

 Hi Steve, Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to figure out what it
 takes to get this working - are you of the opinion that an SSL server should
 not support TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suites? Could you also mention why?
 

Well one reason is that the fixed ECDH cipher suites do not support forward
secrecy because they always use the same ECDH key.

Steve.
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ECDH-RSA and TLS 1.2

2012-10-31 Thread Abhiram Shandilya
I ran openssl s_server with an ECC certificate signed by an RSA Root CA. When I 
try to connect using s_client and a TLS 1.2 ECDH-RSA cipher suite (eg 
ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 or ECDH-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256), the connection fails 
with s_server printing the following error: 3086918464:error:1408A0C1:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher:s3_srvr.c:1353:. Can someone 
please tell me why this doesn't work? Here are the commands I used:

Starting s_server:
openssl s_server -accept 4433 -key ./key.pem -cert cert.pem

Connecting with s_client:
openssl s_client -connect localhost:4433 -cipher ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256

Thanks
Abhi