Re: Registration

2011-02-26 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Fri February 25 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/25/11 4:28 PM, David Schwartz wrote:
  On 2/25/2011 11:59 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:
  On Fri February 25 2011, Ricardo Custodio wrote:
  Veja www.icp.edu.br
 
 
  Interesting, I get a server certificate fails authentication
  from the above address.
 
  You haven't chosen to trust the CA that issued it.
 
  Keep in mind that when the person offering advice can't get it right. 
  . . .
 
  How is your decision not to trust the CA he chose to use a mistake on 
  his part?
 

See below.

 the root certificate in question is not in either Google Chrome's list 
 of CAs, or in Mozilla Firefox's list.
 
 AC-SSL da ICPEDU is the Root CA, issuing a certificate to www.icp.edu.br
 
 The Root Certificate appears to be one locally generated...
 
 CN=AC-SSL da ICPEDU
 S=Distrito Federal
 C=BR
 E=go...@icp.edu.br
 O=ICPEDU
 O=RNP
 L=Brasilia
 
 with an issuer statement...
 
 Os certificados da ICPEDU sao para uso exclusivo por instituicoes
 brasileiras de ensino e pesquisa, e nao tem eficacia probante.
 
 which iGoogle roughly translates as...
 
 Certificates of ICPEDU are for exclusive use by institutions of
 higher education and research, and has no probative efficacy.
 

Nice review John, much better than I did from first impressions.

 So basically, this is pretty close to self-signed.
 

Evidently designed to work within a closed (or small, pre-defined) group
and working exactly as designed and intended.

 
 

Generation of a negative user impression when used outside of that group,
which also may or may not be as intended;

The server is redirecting scheme http to scheme https;

When encountering a partial URI without a scheme, many browsers
assume scheme http;

So the partial URI post (often) works like:
partial URI - http - server redirect to https - negative impression
Which might have been the poster's intent or a simple oversight in
assuming the server was configured to serve the general public as http.

In my post it is the creation of a negative impression which might
be a mistake not anything to do with the handling of secure communications.
My bad for not being clearer.

Mike
 
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Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread Emerson Saito
Maicon, do que precisa exatamente? Criar uma AC para gerar certificados para
serem usados na aplicação?


Em 25 de fevereiro de 2011 12:32, Usuário do Sistema
maico...@ig.com.brescreveu:

 Hello, I'm Maicon from Brazil.

 I'm deployment a project with freeradiusd EAP-TLS. so I need deploy a CA to
 issued certification for usuers.

 I need help to deploy that with openssl.


 thank



Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread Ricardo Custodio
Veja www.icp.edu.br

rfc

2011/2/25 Emerson Saito emerson.sa...@gmail.com

 Maicon, do que precisa exatamente? Criar uma AC para gerar certificados
 para serem usados na aplicação?


 Em 25 de fevereiro de 2011 12:32, Usuário do Sistema 
 maico...@ig.com.brescreveu:

 Hello, I'm Maicon from Brazil.

 I'm deployment a project with freeradiusd EAP-TLS. so I need deploy a CA
 to issued certification for usuers.

 I need help to deploy that with openssl.


 thank





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Supervisor do LabSEC/UFSC
labsec.ufsc.br
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Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Fri February 25 2011, Ricardo Custodio wrote:
 Veja www.icp.edu.br
 

Interesting, I get a server certificate fails authentication
from the above address.

Keep in mind that when the person offering advice can't get it right. . . .

Mike
 rfc
 
 2011/2/25 Emerson Saito emerson.sa...@gmail.com
 
  Maicon, do que precisa exatamente? Criar uma AC para gerar certificados
  para serem usados na aplicação?
 
 
  Em 25 de fevereiro de 2011 12:32, Usuário do Sistema 
  maico...@ig.com.brescreveu:
 
  Hello, I'm Maicon from Brazil.
 
  I'm deployment a project with freeradiusd EAP-TLS. so I need deploy a CA
  to issued certification for usuers.
 
  I need help to deploy that with openssl.
 
 
  thank
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread David Schwartz

On 2/25/2011 11:59 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:

On Fri February 25 2011, Ricardo Custodio wrote:

Veja www.icp.edu.br



Interesting, I get a server certificate fails authentication
from the above address.


You haven't chosen to trust the CA that issued it.


Keep in mind that when the person offering advice can't get it right. . . .


How is your decision not to trust the CA he chose to use a mistake on 
his part?


DS

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Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread John R Pierce

On 02/25/11 4:28 PM, David Schwartz wrote:

On 2/25/2011 11:59 AM, Michael S. Zick wrote:

On Fri February 25 2011, Ricardo Custodio wrote:

Veja www.icp.edu.br



Interesting, I get a server certificate fails authentication
from the above address.


You haven't chosen to trust the CA that issued it.

Keep in mind that when the person offering advice can't get it right. 
. . .


How is your decision not to trust the CA he chose to use a mistake on 
his part?


the root certificate in question is not in either Google Chrome's list 
of CAs, or in Mozilla Firefox's list.


AC-SSL da ICPEDU is the Root CA, issuing a certificate to www.icp.edu.br

The Root Certificate appears to be one locally generated...

   CN=AC-SSL da ICPEDU
   S=Distrito Federal
   C=BR
   E=go...@icp.edu.br
   O=ICPEDU
   O=RNP
   L=Brasilia

with an issuer statement...

   Os certificados da ICPEDU sao para uso exclusivo por instituicoes
   brasileiras de ensino e pesquisa, e nao tem eficacia probante.

which iGoogle roughly translates as...

   Certificates of ICPEDU are for exclusive use by institutions of
   higher education and research, and has no probative efficacy.

So basically, this is pretty close to self-signed.




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Re: Registration

2011-02-25 Thread David Schwartz

On 2/25/2011 5:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote:


the root certificate in question is not in either Google Chrome's list
of CAs, or in Mozilla Firefox's list.

AC-SSL da ICPEDU is the Root CA, issuing a certificate to www.icp.edu.br

The Root Certificate appears to be one locally generated...

CN=AC-SSL da ICPEDU
S=Distrito Federal
C=BR
E=go...@icp.edu.br
O=ICPEDU
O=RNP
L=Brasilia

with an issuer statement...

Os certificados da ICPEDU sao para uso exclusivo por instituicoes
brasileiras de ensino e pesquisa, e nao tem eficacia probante.

which iGoogle roughly translates as...

Certificates of ICPEDU are for exclusive use by institutions of
higher education and research, and has no probative efficacy.

So basically, this is pretty close to self-signed.


So it's working as designed. He's decided that encryption that can't be 
broken passively is better than nothing. It's not clear to me that this 
is a mistake on his part. Perhaps if he didn't realize the implications 
of his decision, it might be an error. But not knowing his requirements, 
I don't see how we can say that.


DS

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