Re: Real MTU problems with BIO pair

2020-08-21 Thread Detlef Vollmann

On 2020-08-21 19:48, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:05:51PM +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote:

On 2020-08-20 21:44, Detlef Vollmann wrote:


Is there any way to set the maximum fragment size for
DTLS handshake with a BIO pair?

One solution is to set the MTU and the int_bio size to
exactly the same value.
Another option would be to use BIO_set_callback_ex() and send
the data to the socket after each BIO_write() into int_bio,
but the problem here is that BIO_set_data() cannot be used
as the ptr is already used for the peer address.


There's always EX_DATA...

Thanks for the pointer. Using my own hash table would also be
an option.

But in the meantime I found that I can define my own BIO_METHOD,
so this is probably my preferred option.

  Detlef


Re: Real MTU problems with BIO pair

2020-08-21 Thread Benjamin Kaduk via openssl-users
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:05:51PM +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote:
> On 2020-08-20 21:44, Detlef Vollmann wrote:
> > 
> > Is there any way to set the maximum fragment size for
> > DTLS handshake with a BIO pair?
> One solution is to set the MTU and the int_bio size to
> exactly the same value.
> Another option would be to use BIO_set_callback_ex() and send
> the data to the socket after each BIO_write() into int_bio,
> but the problem here is that BIO_set_data() cannot be used
> as the ptr is already used for the peer address.

There's always EX_DATA...

-Ben


Re: Real MTU problems with BIO pair

2020-08-21 Thread Detlef Vollmann

On 2020-08-20 21:44, Detlef Vollmann wrote:

if I create a BIO pair with
   BIO_new_bio_pair(&int_bio, 0, &ext_bio_, 0);

then I tried to use SSL_set_mtu(), DTLS_set_link_mtu()
and SSL_CTX_set_max_send_fragment(ctx, 1000).
None of them gave me an error, but also none of them worked:
the ServerHello was still sent as a single packet (>1500 bytes).

It turned out that this was not true: it actually were two
packets but written to the BIO together before SSL_accept()
returned, so my side of the bio pair got on a BIO_read()
one single big packet and sent it to the socket and the wire
as one UDP packet.


If I create the BIO pair using
   BIO_new_bio_pair(&int_bio, 1000, &ext_bio_, 1000);
then the ServerHello is fragmented, but not into DTLS
handshake fragments, but just into separate UDP packets,
that neither s_client nor my own client can work with.

Is there any way to set the maximum fragment size for
DTLS handshake with a BIO pair?

One solution is to set the MTU and the int_bio size to
exactly the same value.
Another option would be to use BIO_set_callback_ex() and send
the data to the socket after each BIO_write() into int_bio,
but the problem here is that BIO_set_data() cannot be used
as the ptr is already used for the peer address.

  Detlef


Real MTU problems with BIO pair

2020-08-20 Thread Detlef Vollmann

Hello,

if I create a BIO pair with
  BIO_new_bio_pair(&int_bio, 0, &ext_bio_, 0);

then I tried to use SSL_set_mtu(), DTLS_set_link_mtu()
and SSL_CTX_set_max_send_fragment(ctx, 1000).
None of them gave me an error, but also none of them worked:
the ServerHello was still sent as a single packet (>1500 bytes).

If I create the BIO pair using
  BIO_new_bio_pair(&int_bio, 1000, &ext_bio_, 1000);
then the ServerHello is fragmented, but not into DTLS
handshake fragments, but just into separate UDP packets,
that neither s_client nor my own client can work with.

Is there any way to set the maximum fragment size for
DTLS handshake with a BIO pair?

Thanks,
  Detlef