Re: [Openstack] trusted computing and nova

2011-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 17:27 -0500, Mark Washenberger wrote:
 Does code specific to Trusted Computing belong in Nova? It seems like
 it should be supported through Scheduler plugins and API plugins (if
 necessary).

Just a general thought on this - it's all very well deciding to not
support a feature like this in-tree because people can use out-of-tree
plugins, but IMHO that's only reasonable if we have backwards compat
guarantees around the API that out-of-tree plugins are using

A better alternative might be to add it as a plugin, but maintain that
plugin in-tree so that anyone making an API change which affects the
plugin also has to update it

Cheers,
Mark.


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[Openstack] why swift proxy server use poll not epoll??

2011-12-11 Thread pf shineyear
hi all , can any one tell my the reson of swift proxy server http service
use python eventlet poll not epoll?

i think epoll is more effcient than poll and if i just use one process,
many upload action at same time, poll will not work well i think.

thanks.
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Re: [Openstack] openstack-poc [was Re: A possible alternative to Gerrit ...]

2011-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 11:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 09:27 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:
   Hey,
  
   On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:47 +, Chris Behrens wrote:
   On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Jay Pipes wrote:
  
Some conversations about GitHub, project autonomy, and migration going
back to June:
   
http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net/msg00176.html
https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack-poc/msg00150.html
http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-cloud-computing/2011-08/msg00077.html
  
   Sorry, I don't read openstack-poc.  Maybe I should.  I don't feel like
   that's 'public discussion', though.
  
   So, I hadn't see openstack-poc before:
  
https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc
  
   It looks like some interesting conversations happen there. The archives
   are public, but is there any way for interested folks to subscribe so
   that don't have to regularly check the archives?
  
  Unfortunately, the way LP mailing lists are managed, subscriptions are
  based on teams, and the OpenStack POC is a closed team :(
  
  That said, folks like Chuck Thier are members of the OpenStack POC
  team and are not on the PPB, so perhaps you can just join the team and
  Jonathan Bryce, our illustrious PPB chair, will just add you to the
  team so you can subscribe?
 
 Thanks for the idea Jay, but it looks like you can't request to join
 closed groups through launchpad. Jonathan?

I never got an answer to this and I just now noticed that at least one
other important discussion happened on the list:

  https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack-poc/msg00278.html

This isn't so much of a personal concern - I probably just would have
skimmed over the thread - but why are discussions like this happening on
a list that isn't open to new folks to join?

Cheers,
Mark.


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Re: [Openstack] openstack-poc [was Re: A possible alternative to Gerrit ...]

2011-12-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 I never got an answer to this and I just now noticed that at least one
 other important discussion happened on the list:
 
   https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack-poc/msg00278.html
 
 This isn't so much of a personal concern - I probably just would have
 skimmed over the thread - but why are discussions like this happening on
 a list that isn't open to new folks to join?

This discussion was actually cross-posted to the main list, so I think
in this precise case it was appropriate use of that ML:

https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg05325.html

My understanding is that openstack-poc should not be the place for
discussions, but rather a convenient way to send an email to the PPB
members. As soon as it goes beyond the usual no topic this week, should
we really have a meeting, I agree the discussion should happen on a
more public medium.

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Release Manager, OpenStack

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[Openstack] bug management for developer infrastructure pieces

2011-12-11 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey guys!

As we get bigger and there are more and more people, it might become a
little opaque to understand how you can appropriately bitch about pieces
of the dev tooling that aren't working for you. The openstack-ci project
on launchpad is the place to do that.

Bugs against the OpenStack gerrit, jenkins, irc bots and doc publishing
can all be filed there. I've added official tags to the project for
gerrit and jenkins, so that if you want to see what's going on with
gerrit, for instance, you can go to:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bugs?field.tag=gerrit

Devstack and git-review both have their own projects and their own bug
trackers - but I betcha if you file bugs in the wrong place we'll figure
it out.

I've also got a todo list of things for all of the systems above that
I'm in the process of turning in to blueprints... hopefully that should
be done soon.

Monty

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Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-11 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/11 Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org:
 Any time you find will be in someone's evening and in someone else's
 middle-of-the-night, and most of us probably also have busy calendars.
 What is not clear to me is if you would like to reduce the amount of
 meetings or just not add more.

One step at a time :)

 Which ones of the meetings listed on
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ are the most difficult for you to
 attend to?

I'm sorry that I can't attend the QA team meeting, the orchestration
team meeting and the nova-db team meeting.

I've accepted that my Tuesday evening is sacrificed on the altar of IRC
meetings. After all, it's only the evening and only one of them.  I feel
quite sad that it's virtually impossible for anyone East of here to
attend as it'll be during their night, though.

 My business hours are 9 - 17 (5 PM) CET.
 In my experience many employers are happy to give brilliant and
 experienced developers like you ample flexibility in terms of business
 hours, offering compensation (monetary, free time, and other perks).
 Are these hours your choice or are they mandated by your employer?

I define my own working hours, but that's really beside the point.

Calling from 2 AM - 3 AM working hours doesn't make it a convenient
time slot, even if that means I take an hour off at a different time.
No matter what you call it and how much time you take off at another
time, it still means you have to get up in the middle of the night for a
meeting. And if I have a meeting mid-evening, that evening is lost.

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Ubuntu Developer    | http://www.ubuntu.com/
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Re: [Openstack] why swift proxy server use poll not epoll??

2011-12-11 Thread Michael Barton
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:08 AM, pf shineyear shin...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all , can any one tell my the reson of swift proxy server http service
 use python eventlet poll not epoll?

Sure.  We had a problem where epoll failed to report a socket close
event roughly one out of every bazillion times.  Then eventlet would
freak out because it didn't know that some socket was closed but the
OS re-used its file descriptor.

I spent some time trying to debug it, but never figured it out.  It
might have been a problem with the specific kernel we were using, or
python not checking an error condition, or some of our aggressive TCP
tuning causing trouble.  Poll didn't have the same problem and didn't
measurably impact performance for the number of connections we do, so
I just decided to go with it.

 i think epoll is more effcient than poll and if i just use one process, many
 upload action at same time, poll will not work well i think.

Epoll is definitely more efficient, but poll does work just fine.  If
you want to write a bug report or submit a patch to make the eventlet
hub configurable, I think that'd be reasonable.

-- Mike

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Re: [Openstack] [Ryu-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Ryu OSS Network Operating System

2011-12-11 Thread Isaku Yamahata
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 09:02:09AM -0800, Dan Wendlandt wrote:
 Oh, definitely.  I really should have set create a blueprint and target it as
 essex-3 as a place-holder.  We'll definitely need to talk through the design
 first (though we probably don't need to flood the entire OS community with 
 such
 detailed discussions, so we can move it to the netstack list).  
  
 
 
 - introduce OVS driver/OVS agent driver
  I think, there can be several kind of openflow controllers, so this is
  reasonable.
  The code refactoring and new options would be easily merged, I hope.
 
 
 I haven't looked at the entire patch yet, but yes, we'll have to figure out 
 how
 to handle different capabilities in the agent.  I know of others doing similar
 things, so coming up with a pattern for this will be valuable.  

I registered the blueprint.
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/ovs-driver-extension

Other discussion point is how to pass driver-specific parameters to OVS agent.

passing parameters to OVS agent 
The current implementation uses ovs_quantum_plugin.ini on each compute-node.
Maybe there are several options. My preference is the option B.

  A. All parameters in ovs_quantum_plugin.ini for ovs agent
Each ovs_quantum_plugin.ini in compute-node has all necessary parameters.
The administrator must guarantee all of them are consistent.

  B. ovs_quantum_plugin.ini in quantum server.
 ovs_quantum_plugin.ini for ovs agent only have [DATABASE] section and
 OVS:integration-bridge.
 Other options which would be commont to drivers or specific to each driver
 are passed to quantum-server, and stored in DB table.
 Each agent get those parameters from DB

  C. Other ideas


thanks,
-- 
yamahata

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[Openstack] Exploit multiple network cards (NIC) per guest

2011-12-11 Thread mailer regs
Hi openstack list,

I 'd like to setup instances with multiple network interfaces for different
zones such as public, administrative ... But I couldn't find any documents
about how to implement this in openstack (using Diablo). I found a
bluesprint about this, and wonder is it available in Diablo ? If it is,
then how can I set it up ?

This is the blueprint:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multi-nic

Thanks.
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Re: [Openstack] Exploit multiple network cards (NIC) per guest

2011-12-11 Thread Dan Wendlandt
Hi,

This is available in Diablo.  This link describes multi-nic:
http://nova.openstack.org/devref/multinic.html

If you want all VMs to be connected to the same set of networks, use the
FlatManager or FlatDHCPManager and then create several networks using
nova-manage.  Each VM will get a network interface connected to each
network.

Dan

Essentially, just create multiple networks with nova-manage, and the VM
will get a NIC on each network.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:00 PM, mailer regs mailer.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi openstack list,

 I 'd like to setup instances with multiple network interfaces for
 different zones such as public, administrative ... But I couldn't find any
 documents about how to implement this in openstack (using Diablo). I found
 a bluesprint about this, and wonder is it available in Diablo ? If it is,
 then how can I set it up ?

 This is the blueprint:

 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multi-nic

 Thanks.



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