Re: [Openstack] New mailing list server [status update]

2012-06-26 Thread Daniel P. Berrange 
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:39:58PM -0700, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
 Hello folks,
 
 we're getting closer to being able to have a new mailing list manager.
 Duncan and the infra team have a new machine running, with mailman
 installed. We tested also the migration of the archives, successfully.
 
 You can have a look at the result on the staging server:
 
 http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/
 
 Notice the visual appearance of the individual lists, like
 
 http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
 
 and of the archives (only visible at the url below):
 
 http://stagelists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/
 
 I think it's good to give users landing on the archives an easy way to
 navigate to openstack.org and to our others site, like wiki and docs to
 get more information about openstack.
 
 Please give the site a fast spin when you have time and let us know if
 it doesn't work for you.

I think the site is looking pretty good  - like the styling you
managed to inflict on Mailman !

A couple of small points / suggestions (that you might already be working on):

 * Missing 1 line descriptions for 4 of the lists here:

   http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/


 * On the listinfo page, the About {LISTNAME} section of the page
   merely containing a link to the archives:

   http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
 OpenStack-Dev Archives[link].

   I would suggest that you might want to put a more expansive
   description on each one. I'm sure you'll probably describe
   the purpose/audience of each list somewhere on the main
   OpenStack website/wiki, but you'll find that users often
   land on the listinfo pages directly, so it is worth
   giving them full info about the list there.

   As an example, with libvirt, we put the following the text in the
   About section:

 This list a place for discussions about the development of
  libvirt. Topics for discussion include

   * New features for libvirt
   * Bug fixing of libvirt
   * New hypervisor drivers
   * Development of language bindings for libvirt API
   * Testing and documentation of libvirt

  For discussion involving users of libvirt, please go to the
  users[link] mailing list

  You can learn more about libvirt on the project web pages
  at http://libvirt.org

  To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit
  the libvir-list Archives[link].

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list

   And see corresponding text of the end-users list:

https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvirt-users


Regards,
Daniel
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Re: [Openstack] New mailing list server [status update]

2012-06-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli 
On 06/26/2012 02:49 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
 I think the site is looking pretty good  - like the styling you
 managed to inflict on Mailman !

Thanks. I like how libvirt hammered on the listinfo page too! To change
that page needs heavy changes to the mailman code, I'm not sure it's
worth maintaining a (small) fork only for that page though.

 A couple of small points / suggestions (that you might already be working on):
[...]

Both are known issues. Next in my personal todo list is to write the one
liners and the longer descriptions for each list. I'll send a draft soon
for discussion.

Next step is to set a deadline for the migration of the server and
execute. I'll coordinate with Duncan and the infra team offline. Expect
news soon.

Thanks,
stef



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[Openstack] New mailing list server [status update]

2012-06-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli 
Hello folks,

we're getting closer to being able to have a new mailing list manager.
Duncan and the infra team have a new machine running, with mailman
installed. We tested also the migration of the archives, successfully.

You can have a look at the result on the staging server:

http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

Notice the visual appearance of the individual lists, like

http://stagelists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation

and of the archives (only visible at the url below):

http://stagelists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/

I think it's good to give users landing on the archives an easy way to
navigate to openstack.org and to our others site, like wiki and docs to
get more information about openstack.

Please give the site a fast spin when you have time and let us know if
it doesn't work for you.

The next step is to migrate all the lists from lists.openstack.org
(operators@ is there) to the new server. Once that is done and stable we
should also think about what to do with the other lists.

cheers,
stef

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