Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

2015-08-18 Thread Remo Mattei
Hi all, 
still #1 has not been answered :) 
but I would suggest to look at this link which has lots of info and will answer 
your questions below. 

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno


Remo 


 On Aug 18, 2015, at 05:45, Chris cont...@progbau.de wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 1)  We have in total 4 separate clouds who need the upgrade with each 
 more than 100 compute nodes. We just use the basic services like nova, 
 keystone, neutron, glance and horizon. No Cinder, heat, trove etc.
 Our network setup is flat provider network, which means we don’t use the 
 neutron router. All in all the from the openstack service perspective a 
 minimal setup.
 2)  One of our cloud is set up as HA with two management nodes (keystone, 
 nova, horizon, glance) behind a haproxy. It’s not a big deal to have the same 
 setup implemented in all clouds if it’s helpful for the upgrade
 3)  We don’t think about upgrading from Centos 6 to 7. Instead build new 
 Centos 7 compute nodes and move the VMs with live migration (is it a good 
 idea?)
 4)  What does it affect? Let’s say we set up a second management node wit 
 Centos 7 and the openstack Juno/Kilo services will it work against the Centos 
 6/Icehouse compute nodes and the Icehouse DB schema?
  
 Thanks in advance!
  
 Cheers,
 Chris
  
 From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@italy1.com mailto:r...@italy1.com] 
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 19:54
 To: Chris cont...@progbau.de mailto:cont...@progbau.de
 Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org mailto:openstack@lists.openstack.org; 
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 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice
  
 Well this can be very time consuming but first thing first
 1) how is your installation done?
 2) is this an HA env?
 3) chaining from 6.x to 7 is good but may not play well 
 4) database schema changed from Icehouse to Juno so keep that in mind. 
  
 Then you can start thinking on the upgrades. I know some of my coworker had 
 hard time to upgrade. Recommended is rebuild / migrate. 
  
 Ciao
 Remo  
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:53, Chris cont...@progbau.de 
 mailto:cont...@progbau.de wrote:
  
 Hello,
  
 We currently plan to upgrade our Openstack setup from Icehouse to Juno or 
 even Kilo. This also includes a version upgrade on the host based OS from 
 Centos 6.6 to 7.x
 I have some questions regarding the upgrade an hope to learn from your 
 experience.
  
 First question is, is there a Openstack version compatibility guaranteed 
 within the different releases? The idea behind it to upgrade the different 
 services (compute nodes / management nodes) in separate phases.
 Second, is the live-migration with block-migrate feature compatible between 
 versions. One upgrade solution we currently playing with is to move existing 
 VMs with live-migration  block-migrate (no shared storage) to fresh 
 installed Centos 7 Kilo compute nodes.
  
 Any best practice tips highly appreciated!
  
 Cheers,
 Chris
  
  
  
  
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[Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

2015-08-17 Thread Chris
Hello,

 

We currently plan to upgrade our Openstack setup from Icehouse to Juno or
even Kilo. This also includes a version upgrade on the host based OS from
Centos 6.6 to 7.x

I have some questions regarding the upgrade an hope to learn from your
experience.

 

First question is, is there a Openstack version compatibility guaranteed
within the different releases? The idea behind it to upgrade the different
services (compute nodes / management nodes) in separate phases.

Second, is the live-migration with block-migrate feature compatible between
versions. One upgrade solution we currently playing with is to move existing
VMs with live-migration  block-migrate (no shared storage) to fresh
installed Centos 7 Kilo compute nodes.

 

Any best practice tips highly appreciated!

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

2015-08-17 Thread Chris
Hello,

 

1)  We have in total 4 separate clouds who need the upgrade with each
more than 100 compute nodes. We just use the basic services like nova,
keystone, neutron, glance and horizon. No Cinder, heat, trove etc.

Our network setup is flat provider network, which means we don't use the
neutron router. All in all the from the openstack service perspective a
minimal setup.

2)  One of our cloud is set up as HA with two management nodes
(keystone, nova, horizon, glance) behind a haproxy. It's not a big deal to
have the same setup implemented in all clouds if it's helpful for the
upgrade

3)  We don't think about upgrading from Centos 6 to 7. Instead build new
Centos 7 compute nodes and move the VMs with live migration (is it a good
idea?)

4)  What does it affect? Let's say we set up a second management node
wit Centos 7 and the openstack Juno/Kilo services will it work against the
Centos 6/Icehouse compute nodes and the Icehouse DB schema?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@italy1.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 19:54
To: Chris cont...@progbau.de
Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org; Mark Hollow m...@markhollow.com;
Soputhi Sea pu...@live.com
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

 

Well this can be very time consuming but first thing first

1) how is your installation done?

2) is this an HA env?

3) chaining from 6.x to 7 is good but may not play well 

4) database schema changed from Icehouse to Juno so keep that in mind. 

 

Then you can start thinking on the upgrades. I know some of my coworker had
hard time to upgrade. Recommended is rebuild / migrate. 

 

Ciao

Remo  

On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:53, Chris cont...@progbau.de
mailto:cont...@progbau.de  wrote:

 

Hello,

 

We currently plan to upgrade our Openstack setup from Icehouse to Juno or
even Kilo. This also includes a version upgrade on the host based OS from
Centos 6.6 to 7.x

I have some questions regarding the upgrade an hope to learn from your
experience.

 

First question is, is there a Openstack version compatibility guaranteed
within the different releases? The idea behind it to upgrade the different
services (compute nodes / management nodes) in separate phases.

Second, is the live-migration with block-migrate feature compatible between
versions. One upgrade solution we currently playing with is to move existing
VMs with live-migration  block-migrate (no shared storage) to fresh
installed Centos 7 Kilo compute nodes.

 

Any best practice tips highly appreciated!

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

2015-08-17 Thread Remo Mattei
Well this can be very time consuming but first thing first
1) how is your installation done?
2) is this an HA env?
3) chaining from 6.x to 7 is good but may not play well 
4) database schema changed from Icehouse to Juno so keep that in mind. 

Then you can start thinking on the upgrades. I know some of my coworker had 
hard time to upgrade. Recommended is rebuild / migrate. 

Ciao
Remo  
 On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:53, Chris cont...@progbau.de wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 We currently plan to upgrade our Openstack setup from Icehouse to Juno or 
 even Kilo. This also includes a version upgrade on the host based OS from 
 Centos 6.6 to 7.x
 I have some questions regarding the upgrade an hope to learn from your 
 experience.
  
 First question is, is there a Openstack version compatibility guaranteed 
 within the different releases? The idea behind it to upgrade the different 
 services (compute nodes / management nodes) in separate phases.
 Second, is the live-migration with block-migrate feature compatible between 
 versions. One upgrade solution we currently playing with is to move existing 
 VMs with live-migration  block-migrate (no shared storage) to fresh 
 installed Centos 7 Kilo compute nodes.
  
 Any best practice tips highly appreciated!
  
 Cheers,
 Chris
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack upgrade Icehouse Centos 6 best practice

2015-08-17 Thread Leslie-Alexandre DENIS

Le 17/08/2015 14:53, Remo Mattei a écrit :

Well this can be very time consuming but first thing first
1) how is your installation done?
2) is this an HA env?
3) chaining from 6.x to 7 is good but may not play well
4) database schema changed from Icehouse to Juno so keep that in mind.

Then you can start thinking on the upgrades. I know some of my 
coworker had hard time to upgrade. Recommended is rebuild / migrate.


Ciao
Remo



Hello,

I'll face the same migration soon and I'm wondering if the point 4) is 
related to the db sync process ?

Does it modify the database schema ?

Though, anyone know if we must apply incremental update from Icehouse to 
Kilo or can we jump from Icehouse to Kilo ?


Thanks,
Regards
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