Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] [Cinder] 3'rd party CI systems

2014-08-12 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 12 August 2014 07:26, Amit Das amit@cloudbyte.com wrote:

 I would like some guidance in this regards in form of some links, wiki
 pages etc.

 I am currently gathering the driver cert test results i.e. tempest tests
 from devstack in our environment  CI setup would be my next step.


This should get you started:
http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html

Then Jay Pipes' excellent two part series will help you with the details of
getting it done:
http://www.joinfu.com/2014/02/setting-up-an-external-openstack-testing-system/
http://www.joinfu.com/2014/02/setting-up-an-openstack-external-testing-system-part-2/
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-12 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi
The right layer for this validation is the Neutron REST layer.
Since the current validation engine in this layer can only do attribute level 
validation (e.g make sure timeout is int  and timeout  5) but can't do entity 
level validation (e.g  timeout  delay), you can find entity level validation 
code  in the lbaas plugin layer and in DB layer.

As far as I understand the REST engine of Neutron is about to be replaced (I 
hope before the Z version :) ) and I hope the new engine will be able to run 
entity level validations.

Avishay

From: Samuel Bercovici
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver 
interface on every API request

Hi,

Validations such as timeout  delay should be performed on the API level 
before it reaches the driver.

For a configuration tree (lb, listeners, pools, etc.), there should be one 
provider.
Having provider defined in multiple places does not make sense.


-San.


From: Vijay Venkatachalam [mailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com]
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver 
interface on every API request

Hi:

Continuing from last week's LBaaS meeting...

Currently an entity cannot be sent to driver unless it is linked to 
loadbalancer because loadbalancer is the root object and driver information is 
only available with loadbalancer.

The request to the driver is delayed because of which error propagation becomes 
tricky.

Let's say a monitor was configured with timeout  delay there would be no error 
then.
When a listener is configured there will be a monitor creation/deployment error 
like timeout configured greater than delay.

Unless the error is very clearly crafted the user won't be able to understand 
the error.

I am half-heartedly OK with current approach.

But, I would prefer Brandon's Solution - make provider an attribute in each of 
the entities to get rid of this problem.

What do others think?

Thanks,
Vijay V.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:25 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote:
 
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com
 wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote:
  On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote:
   It seems to me that the tension here is that there are
 groups who
   would really like to use features in newer libvirts that
 we don't CI
   on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible
 solution here is
   to do the following:
  
- revert the libvirt version_cap flag
 
  I don't feel strongly either way on this.  It seemed useful
 at the time
  for being able to decouple upgrading libvirt and enabling
 features that
  come with that.
 
 
 Right, I suggested the flag as a more deliberate way of
 avoiding the
 issue that was previously seen in the gate with live
 snapshots. I still
 think it's a pretty elegant and useful little feature, and
 don't think
 we need to use it as proxy battle over testing requirements
 for new
 libvirt features.
 
 
 Mark,
 
 
 I am not sure if I follow.  The gate issue with live snapshots has
 been worked around by turning it off [0], so presumably this patch is
 forward facing.  I fail to see how this patch is needed to help the
 gate in the future.

On the live snapshot issue specifically, we disabled it by requiring
1.3.0 for the feature. With the version cap set to 1.2.2, we won't
automatically enable this code path again if we update to 1.3.0. No
question that's a bit of a mess, though.

The point was a more general one - we learned from the live snapshot
issue that having a libvirt upgrade immediately enable new code paths
was a bad idea. The patch is a simple, elegant way of avoiding that.

  Wouldn't it just delay the issues until we change the version_cap?

Yes, that's the idea. Rather than having to scramble when the new
devstack-gate image shows up, we'd be able to work on any issues in the
context of a patch series to bump the version_cap.

 The issue I see with the libvirt version_cap [1] is best captured in
 its commit message: The end user can override the limit if they wish
 to opt-in to use of untested features via the 'version_cap' setting in
 the 'libvirt' group. This goes against the very direction nova has
 been moving in for some time now. We have been moving away from
 merging untested (re: no integration testing) features.  This patch
 changes the very direction the project is going in over testing
 without so much as a discussion. While I think it may be time that we
 revisited this discussion, the discussion needs to happen before any
 patches are merged.

You put it well - some apparently see us moving towards a zero-tolerance
policy of not having any code which isn't functionally tested in the
gate. That obviously is not the case right now.

The sentiment is great, but any zero-tolerance policy is dangerous. I'm
very much in favor of discussing this further. We should have some
principles and goals around this, but rather than argue this in the
abstract we should be open to discussing the tradeoffs involved with
individual patches.

 I am less concerned about the contents of this patch, and more
 concerned with how such a big de facto change in nova policy (we
 accept untested code sometimes) without any discussion or consensus.
 In your comment on the revert [2], you say the 'whether not-CI-tested
 features should be allowed to be merged' debate is 'clearly
 unresolved.' How did you get to that conclusion? This was never
 brought up in the mid-cycles as a unresolved topic to be discussed. In
 our specs template we say Is this untestable in gate given current
 limitations (specific hardware / software configurations available)?
 If so, are there mitigation plans (3rd party testing, gate
 enhancements, etc) [3].  We have been blocking untested features for
 some time now.

Asking is this tested in a spec template makes a tonne of sense.
Requiring some thought to be put into mitigation where a feature is
untestable in the gate makes sense. Requiring that the code is tested
where possible makes sense. It's a zero-tolerance get your code
functionally tested or GTFO policy that I'm concerned about.

 I am further perplexed by what Daniel Berrange, the patch author,
 meant when he commented [2] Regardless of the outcome of the testing
 discussion we believe this is a useful feature to have. Who is 'we'?
 Because I don't see how that can be nova-core or even nova-specs-core,
 especially considering how many members of those groups are +2 on the
 revert. So if 'we' is neither of those groups then who is 'we'?

That's for Dan to answer, but I think you're either nitpicking or have a
very serious concern.

If nitpicking, Dan could just be using the Royal 'We' :) Or he could
just mean 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

2014-08-12 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi Gary,
Mellanox already established CI support on Mellanox SR-IOV NICs, as one of the 
jobs of Mellanox External Testing CI 
(Check-MLNX-Neutron-ML2-Sriov-driverhttp://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/94888/13/Check-MLNX-Neutron-ML2-Sriov-driver).
Meanwhile not voting, but will be soon.

BR,
Irena

From: Gary Kotton [mailto:gkot...@vmware.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:17 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

Thanks for the update.

From: Robert Li (baoli) ba...@cisco.commailto:ba...@cisco.com
Reply-To: OpenStack List 
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: Monday, August 11, 2014 at 5:08 PM
To: OpenStack List 
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

Gary,

Cisco is adding it in our CI testbed. I guess that mlnx is doing the same for 
their MD as well.

-Robert

On 8/11/14, 9:05 AM, Gary Kotton 
gkot...@vmware.commailto:gkot...@vmware.com wrote:

Hi,
At the moment all of the drivers are required CI support. Are there any plans 
regarding the PIC support. I understand that this is something that requires 
specific hardware. Are there any plans to add this?
Thanks
Gary
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-12 Thread Susanne Balle
In the context of Octavia and Neutron LBaaS. Susanne


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Stephen Balukoff sbaluk...@bluebox.net
wrote:

 Susanne,

 Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in
 terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project?

 Stephen


 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com
 wrote:

 Hi Susanne,

 While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
 input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
 larger sample size.

 Thanks,
 doug

 On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gang,
 I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
 1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
 Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
 
 
 2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
 ³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
  option.
 3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
 ³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
  ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
 Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
 Regards Susanne
 


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-12 Thread Aaron Rosen
This bug was true in grizzly and older (and was reintroduced in icehouse
for a few days but was fixed before the nova icehouse shipped).

Aaron


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:10 AM, CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote:

Armando M. [mailto:arma...@gmail.com] wrote:



 On 9 August 2014 10:16, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul, does this friend of a friend have a reproduceable test

 script for this?



 We would also need to know the OpenStack release where this issue manifest

 itself. A number of bugs have been raised in the past around this type of

 issue, and the last fix I recall is this one:

 

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1300325

 

 It's possible that this might have regressed, though.



 The reason I called it friend of a friend is because I think the info

 has filtered through a series of people and is not firsthand observation.

 I'll ask them to track back to who actually observed the behavior, how

 long ago, and with what version.



 It could be a regression, or it could just be old info that people have

 continued to assume is true without realizing it was considered a bug

 all along and has been fixed.



 Thanks! The moment I first heard it my first reaction was that it was

 almost certainly a bug and had probably already been fixed.



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[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Add a pollster plugin

2014-08-12 Thread Duan, Li-Gong (Gary@HPServers-Core-OE-PSC)
Hi Folks,

Is there any best practices or good way to debug whether new pollster plugin 
work fine for ceilometer?

I'd like to add a new pollster plugin into Ceilometer by
 - adding a new item under enterypoint/ceilometer.poll.central in setup.cfg 
file
 - adding the implementation code inheriting plugin.CentralPollster.

But when I sudo python setup.py install and restart ceilometer-related 
services in devstack, NO new metering is displayed upon ceilometer meter-list 
and I expect that there should be a new metering showing the item defined in 
setup.cfg.
Is there any other source/config files I need to modify or add?

Thanks in advance,
Gary
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[openstack-dev] [nova] 9 days until feature proposal freeze

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Hi,

this is just a friendly reminder that we are now 9 days away from
feature proposal freeze for nova. If you think your blueprint isn't
going to make it in time, then now would be a good time to let me know
so that we can defer it until Kilo. That will free up reviewer time
for other blueprints.

Some people have more than one blueprint still under development...
Perhaps they could defer some of those to Kilo?

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Qiming Teng

Hi,

Are you aware of the dockter_container resource type
(DockerInc::Docker::Container) in Heat contrib directory? I am seeing a
'CMD' property which is a list of command to run after the container is
spawned.

Is that what you want?

Regards,
  Qiming

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:27:39PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm now doing some investigation for docker + HEAT integration and come up
 one question want to get your help.
 
 What is the best way for a docker container to run some user data once the
 docker container was provisioned?
 
 I think there are two ways: using cloud-init or the CMD section in
 Dockerfile, right? just wondering does anyone has some experience with
 cloud-init for docker container, does the configuration same with VM?
 
 -- 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-12 Thread loy wolfe
Hi Paul,

Below are some other useful GBP reference pages:
https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Group_Based_Policy_Plugin
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/netmgtsw/ps13004/ps13460/white-paper-c11-729906_ns1261_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html

I think the root cause of this long argument, is that GBP core model was
not designed native for Neutron, and they are introduced into Neutron so
radically, without careful tailoring and adaption. Maybe the GBP team also
don't want to do so, their intention is to maintain a unified model across
all kinds of platform including Neutron, Opendaylight, ACI/Opflex, etc.

However, redundancy and duplication exists between EP/EPG/BD/RD and
Port/Network/Subnet. So mapping is used between these objects, and I think
this is why so many voice to request moving GBP out and on top of Neutron.

Will GBP simply be an *addition*? It absolutely COULD be, but objectively
speaking, it's core model also allow it to BE-ABLE-TO take over Neutron
core resource (see the wiki above). GBP mapping spec suggested a nova -nic
extension to handle EP/EPG resource directly, thus all original Neutron
core resource can be shadowed away from user interface: GBP became the new
openstack network API :-) However no one can say depreciate Neutron core
here and now, but shall we leave Neutron core just as *traditional/legacy*?

Personally I prefer not to throw NW-Policy out of Neutron, but at the
perquisite that its core model should be reviewed and tailored. A new
lightweight model carefully designed native for Neutron is needed, but not
directly copying a whole bunch of monolithic core resource from existing
other system.

Here is the very basic suggestion: because core value of GBP is policy
template with contracts , throw away EP/EPG/L2P/L3P model while not just
renaming them again and again. APPLY policy template to existing Neutron
core resource, but not reinvent similar concept in GBP and then do the
mapping.


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:12 PM, CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote:

loy wolfe [mailto:loywo...@gmail.com] wrote:



 Then since Network/Subnet/Port will never be treated just as LEGACY

 COMPATIBLE role, there is no need to extend Nova-Neutron interface to

 follow the GBP resource. Anyway, one of optional service plugins inside

 Neutron shouldn't has any impact on Nova side.



 This gets to the root of why I was getting confused about Jay and others

 having Nova related concerns. I was/am assuming that GBP is simply an

 *additional* mechanism for manipulating Neutron, not a deprecation of any

 part of the existing Neutron API. I think Jay's concern and the reason

 why he keeps mentioning Nova as the biggest and most important consumer

 of Neutron's API stems from an assumption that Nova would need to change

 to use the GBP API.





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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Qiming. ;-)

Yes, this is one solution for running user data when using docker container
in HEAT. I see that the properties include almost all of the parameters
used in docker run.

Do you know if docker container support cloud-init in a image? My
understanding is NOT as I did not see userdata in docker property.



2014-08-12 16:21 GMT+08:00 Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com:


 Hi,

 Are you aware of the dockter_container resource type
 (DockerInc::Docker::Container) in Heat contrib directory? I am seeing a
 'CMD' property which is a list of command to run after the container is
 spawned.

 Is that what you want?

 Regards,
   Qiming

 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:27:39PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm now doing some investigation for docker + HEAT integration and come
 up
  one question want to get your help.
 
  What is the best way for a docker container to run some user data once
 the
  docker container was provisioned?
 
  I think there are two ways: using cloud-init or the CMD section in
  Dockerfile, right? just wondering does anyone has some experience with
  cloud-init for docker container, does the configuration same with VM?
 
  --
  Thanks,
 
  Jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Qiming Teng
Don't have an answer to this.  You may try it though.

Regards,
  Qiming

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:52:58PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
 Thanks Qiming. ;-)
 
 Yes, this is one solution for running user data when using docker container
 in HEAT. I see that the properties include almost all of the parameters
 used in docker run.
 
 Do you know if docker container support cloud-init in a image? My
 understanding is NOT as I did not see userdata in docker property.
 
 
 
 2014-08-12 16:21 GMT+08:00 Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com:
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Are you aware of the dockter_container resource type
  (DockerInc::Docker::Container) in Heat contrib directory? I am seeing a
  'CMD' property which is a list of command to run after the container is
  spawned.
 
  Is that what you want?
 
  Regards,
Qiming
 
  On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:27:39PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I'm now doing some investigation for docker + HEAT integration and come
  up
   one question want to get your help.
  
   What is the best way for a docker container to run some user data once
  the
   docker container was provisioned?
  
   I think there are two ways: using cloud-init or the CMD section in
   Dockerfile, right? just wondering does anyone has some experience with
   cloud-init for docker container, does the configuration same with VM?
  
   --
   Thanks,
  
   Jay
 
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[openstack-dev] Gantt project

2014-08-12 Thread Dugger, Donald D
This is to make sure that everyone knows about the Gantt project and to make 
sure that no one has a strong aversion to what we are doing.

The basic goal is to split the scheduler out of Nova and create a separate 
project that, ultimately, can be used by other OpenStack projects that have a 
need for scheduling services.  Note that we have no intention of forcing people 
to use Gantt but it seems silly to have a scheduler inside Nova, another 
scheduler inside Cinder, another scheduler inside Neutron and so forth.  This 
is clearly predicated on the idea that we can create a common, flexible 
scheduler that can meet everyone's needs but, as I said, theirs is no rule that 
any project has to use Gantt, if we don't meet your needs you are free to roll 
your own scheduler.

We will start out by just splitting the scheduler code out of Nova into a 
separate project that will initially only be used by Nova.  This will be 
followed by enhancements, like a common API, that can then be utilized by other 
projects.

We are cleaning up the internal interfaces in the Juno release with the 
expectation that early in the Kilo cycle we will be able to do the split and 
create a Gantt project that is completely compatible with the current Nova 
scheduler.

Hopefully our initial goal (a separate project that is completely compatible 
with the Nova scheduler) is not too controversial but feel free to reply with 
any concerns you may have.

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[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] tox -epy26 failed because of insufficient test environment

2014-08-12 Thread Osanai, Hisashi

Hi,

I got an error message when Jenkins executed tox -epy26 in the following fix.
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112771/

I think that the reason of the error message is a mongod isn't installed in 
test 
environment. (it works in my test env)

Do you have any idea to solve this?

- setup-test-env.sh
 16 export PATH=${PATH:+$PATH:}/sbin:/usr/sbin
 17 if ! which mongod /dev/null 21
 18 then
 19 echo Could not find mongod command 12
 20 exit 1
 21 fi

- console.log
2014-08-12 07:25:03.329 | + tox -epy26
2014-08-12 07:25:03.542 | py26 create: 
/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26
2014-08-12 07:25:05.255 | py26 installdeps: 
-r/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/requirements.txt, 
-r/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/test-requirements.txt
2014-08-12 07:28:01.581 | py26 develop-inst: 
/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26
2014-08-12 07:28:07.861 | py26 runtests: commands[0] | bash -x 
/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/setup-test-env.sh python 
setup.py testr --slowest --testr-args=
2014-08-12 07:28:07.864 | + set -e
2014-08-12 07:28:07.865 | ++ mktemp -d CEILO-MONGODB-X
2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + MONGO_DATA=CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p
2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + MONGO_PORT=29000
2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + trap clean_exit EXIT
2014-08-12 07:28:07.867 | + mkfifo CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p/out
2014-08-12 07:28:07.868 | + export 
PATH=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
2014-08-12 07:28:07.869 | + 
PATH=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
2014-08-12 07:28:07.869 | + which mongod
2014-08-12 07:28:07.870 | + echo 'Could not find mongod command'
2014-08-12 07:28:07.870 | Could not find mongod command
2014-08-12 07:28:07.871 | + exit 1
2014-08-12 07:28:07.871 | + clean_exit
2014-08-12 07:28:07.872 | + local error_code=1
2014-08-12 07:28:07.872 | + rm -rf CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p
2014-08-12 07:28:07.873 | ++ jobs -p
2014-08-12 07:28:07.873 | + kill
2014-08-12 07:28:07.874 | kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] 
pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
2014-08-12 07:28:07.875 | ERROR: InvocationError: '/bin/bash -x 
/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/setup-test-env.sh python 
setup.py testr --slowest --testr-args='

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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Lau
I did not have the environment set up now, but by reviewing code, I think
that the logic should be as following:
1) When using nova docker driver, we can use cloud-init or/and CMD in
docker images to run post install scripts.
myapp:
Type: OS::Nova::Server
Properties:
flavor: m1.small
image: my-app:latest   docker image
user-data:  

2) When using heat docker driver, we can only use CMD in docker image or
heat template to run post install scripts.
wordpress:
type: DockerInc::Docker::Container
depends_on: [database]
properties:
  image: wordpress
  links:
db: mysql
  port_bindings:
80/tcp: [{HostPort: 80}]
  docker_endpoint:
str_replace:
  template: http://host:2345/
  params:
host: {get_attr: [docker_host, networks, private, 0]}
cmd: /bin/bash 



2014-08-12 17:11 GMT+08:00 Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com:

 Don't have an answer to this.  You may try it though.

 Regards,
   Qiming

 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 04:52:58PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
  Thanks Qiming. ;-)
 
  Yes, this is one solution for running user data when using docker
 container
  in HEAT. I see that the properties include almost all of the parameters
  used in docker run.
 
  Do you know if docker container support cloud-init in a image? My
  understanding is NOT as I did not see userdata in docker property.
 
 
 
  2014-08-12 16:21 GMT+08:00 Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com:
 
  
   Hi,
  
   Are you aware of the dockter_container resource type
   (DockerInc::Docker::Container) in Heat contrib directory? I am seeing a
   'CMD' property which is a list of command to run after the container is
   spawned.
  
   Is that what you want?
  
   Regards,
 Qiming
  
   On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 02:27:39PM +0800, Jay Lau wrote:
Hi,
   
I'm now doing some investigation for docker + HEAT integration and
 come
   up
one question want to get your help.
   
What is the best way for a docker container to run some user data
 once
   the
docker container was provisioned?
   
I think there are two ways: using cloud-init or the CMD section in
Dockerfile, right? just wondering does anyone has some experience
 with
cloud-init for docker container, does the configuration same with VM?
   
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:25:39PM -0700, Joe Gordon wrote:
 I am not sure if I follow.  The gate issue with live snapshots has been
 worked around by turning it off [0], so presumably this patch is forward
 facing.  I fail to see how this patch is needed to help the gate in the
 future. Wouldn't it just delay the issues until we change the version_cap?

Consider that we have a feature already in tree that is not currently
tested by the gate. Now we update libvirt in the gate and so tempest
suddenly starts exercising the feature. Now if there is a bug, every
single review submitted to the gate is potentially going to crash and
burn causing major pain for everyone trying to get tests to pass. With
this version cap, you can update libvirt in the gate in knowledge that
we won't turn on new previously untested feature patches, so you have
lower risk of causing gate instability. Once the gate is updated to new
libvirt, we submit a patch to update version cap. If there is a bug in
the new features enabled it only affects that one patch under review
instead of killing the entire CI system for anyone. Only once we have
passing tests for the new version cap value and that is merged would
the gate as a whole be impact. Of course sometimes the bugs are very
non-deterministic and rare so things might still sneak through, but
at least some portion of bugs will be detected this way and help the
gate reliability during updates of libvirt.

 The issue I see with the libvirt version_cap [1] is best captured in its
 commit message: The end user can override the limit if they wish to opt-in
 to use of untested features via the 'version_cap' setting in the 'libvirt'
 group. This goes against the very direction nova has been moving in for
 some time now. We have been moving away from merging untested (re: no
 integration testing) features.  This patch changes the very direction the
 project is going in over testing without so much as a discussion. While I
 think it may be time that we revisited this discussion, the discussion
 needs to happen before any patches are merged.

Like it or not we have a number of features in Nova that we don't have
test coverage for, due to a variety of reasons, some short term, some
long term, some permanently unavoidable. One of the reasons is due to
the gate having too old libvirt for a feature. As mentioned elsewhere
people are looking at addressing that, by trying to figure out how to
do a gate job with newer libvirt. Blocking feature development during
Juno until the gate issues are addressed is not going to help the work
to get new gate jobs, but will discourage our contributors and further
the (somewhat valid) impression that we're not a very welcoming project
to work with.

The version cap setting is *not* encouraging us to add more features that
lack testing. It is about recognising that we're *already* accepting such
features and so taking steps to ensure our end users don't exercise the
untested code paths unless they explicitly choose to. This ensures that
what the user tests out of the box actually meets our Tier 1 status.

 I am less concerned about the contents of this patch, and more concerned
 with how such a big de facto change in nova policy (we accept untested code
 sometimes) without any discussion or consensus. In your comment on the
 revert [2], you say the 'whether not-CI-tested features should be allowed
 to be merged' debate is 'clearly unresolved.' How did you get to that
 conclusion? This was never brought up in the mid-cycles as a unresolved
 topic to be discussed. In our specs template we say Is this untestable in
 gate given current limitations (specific hardware / software configurations
 available)? If so, are there mitigation plans (3rd party testing, gate
 enhancements, etc) [3].  We have been blocking untested features for some
 time now.

That last lines are nonsense. We have never unconditionally blocked untested
features nor do I recommend that we do so. The specs template testing allows
the contributor to *justify* why they think the feature is worth accepting
despite lack of testing. The reviewers make a judgement call on whether the
justification is valid or not. This is a pragmmatic approach to the problem.

 I am further perplexed by what Daniel Berrange, the patch author, meant
 when he commented [2] Regardless of the outcome of the testing discussion
 we believe this is a useful feature to have. Who is 'we'? Because I don't
 see how that can be nova-core or even nova-specs-core, especially
 considering how many members of those groups are +2 on the revert. So if
 'we' is neither of those groups then who is 'we'?

By 'we' I'm referring to the people who submitted  approved the patch. As
explained soo many times now, this version cap concept is something that
is useful to end users even if this debate of testing was not happening and
libvirt had 100% testing coverage. ie consider we test on libvirt 1.2.0 but
a cloud admin has deployed on libvirt 

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-12 Thread Eoghan Glynn


  Doesn't InfluxDB do the same?
  InfluxDB stores timeseries data primarily.
 
  Gnocchi in intended to store strongly-typed OpenStack resource
  representations (instance, images, etc.) in addition to providing
  a means to access timeseries data associated with those resources.
 
  So to answer your question: no, IIUC, it doesn't do the same thing.
 
 Ok, I think I'm getting closer on this.

Great!

 Thanks for the clarification. Sadly, I have more questions :)

Any time, Sandy :)
 
 Is this closer? a metadata repo for resources (instances, images, etc)
 + an abstraction to some TSDB(s)?

Somewhat closer (more clarification below on the metadata repository
aspect, and the completeness/authority of same).

 Hmm, thinking out loud ... if it's a metadata repo for resources, who is
 the authoritative source for what the resource is? Ceilometer/Gnocchi or
 the source service?

The source service is authoritative.

 For example, if I want to query instance power state do I ask ceilometer
 or Nova?

In that scenario, you'd ask nova.

If, on the other hand, you wanted to average out the CPU utilization
over all instances with a certain metadata attribute set (e.g. some
user metadata set by Heat that indicated membership of an autoscaling
group), then you'd ask ceilometer.

 Or is it metadata about the time-series data collected for that
 resource?

Both. But the focus of my preceding remarks was on the latter.

 In which case, I think most tsdb's have some sort of series
 description facilities.

Sure, and those should be used for metadata related directly to
the timeseries (granularity, retention etc.)

 I guess my question is, what makes this metadata unique and how
 would it differ from the metadata ceilometer already collects?

The primary difference between the way ceilometer currently stores
metadata, is the avoidance of per-sample snapshots of resource
metadata (as stated in the initial mail on this thread).
 
 Will it be using Glance, now that Glance is becoming a pure metadata repo?

No, we have no plans to use glance for this.

By becoming a pure metadata repo, presumably you mean this spec:

  
https://github.com/openstack/glance-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/metadata-schema-catalog.rst

I don't see this on the glance roadmap for Juno:

  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/juno 

so presumably the integration of graffiti and glance is still more
of a longer term intent, than a present-tense becoming.

I'm totally open to correction on this by markwash and others,
but my reading of the debate around the recent change in glance's
mission statement was that the primary focus in the immediate
term was to expand into providing an artifact repository (for
artifacts such as Heat templates), while not to *precluding* any
future expansion into also providing a metadata repository.

The fossil-record of that discussion is here:

  https://review.openstack.org/98002

  Though of course these things are not a million miles from each
  other, one is just a step up in the abstraction stack, having a
  wider and more OpenStack-specific scope.
 
 Could it be a generic timeseries service? Is it openstack specific
 because it uses stackforge/python/oslo?

No, I meant OpenStack-specific in terms of it understanding
something of the nature of OpenStack resources and their ownership
(e.g. instances, with some metadata, each being associated with a
user  tenant etc.)

Not OpenStack-specific in the sense that it takes dependencies from
oslo or stackforge.

As for using python: yes, gnocchi is implemented in python, like
much of the rest of OpenStack.  However, no, I don't think that
choice of implementation language makes it OpenStack-specific.

 I assume the rules and schemas will be data-driven (vs. hard-coded)?

Well one of the ideas was to move away from loosely typed
representations of resources in ceilometer, in the form of a dict
of metadata containing whatever it contains, and instead decide
upfront what was the specific minimal information per resource
type that we need to store.

 ... and since the ceilometer collectors already do the bridge work, is
 it a pre-packaging of definitions that target openstack specifically?

I'm not entirely sure of what you mean by the bridge work in
this context.

The ceilometer collector effectively acts a concentrator, by
persisting the metering messages emitted by the other ceilometer
agents (i.e. the compute, central,  notification agents) to the
metering store.

These samples are stored by the collector pretty much as-is, so
there's no real bridging going on currently in the collector (in
the sense of mapping or transforming).

However, the collector is indeed the obvious hook point for
ceilometer to emit data to gnocchi.

 (not sure about wider and more specific)

I presume you're thinking oxymoron with wider and more specific?

I meant:

 * wider in the sense that it covers more ground than generic
   timeseries data storage

 * more specific in the sense that some of 

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] tox -epy26 failed because of insufficient test environment

2014-08-12 Thread Dina Belova
Hisashi Osanai, yes, that is blocking the Ceilometer gate at all for now.

The reason might be in updated centos6 image in the gate, but I have no
opportunity to check it actually.

Infra folks, can you help us?

Thanks,
Dina


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Osanai, Hisashi 
osanai.hisa...@jp.fujitsu.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I got an error message when Jenkins executed tox -epy26 in the following
 fix.
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112771/

 I think that the reason of the error message is a mongod isn't installed
 in test
 environment. (it works in my test env)

 Do you have any idea to solve this?

 - setup-test-env.sh
  16 export PATH=${PATH:+$PATH:}/sbin:/usr/sbin
  17 if ! which mongod /dev/null 21
  18 then
  19 echo Could not find mongod command 12
  20 exit 1
  21 fi

 - console.log
 2014-08-12 07:25:03.329 | + tox -epy26
 2014-08-12 07:25:03.542 | py26 create:
 /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26
 2014-08-12 07:25:05.255 | py26 installdeps:
 -r/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/requirements.txt,
 -r/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/test-requirements.txt
 2014-08-12 07:28:01.581 | py26 develop-inst:
 /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.861 | py26 runtests: commands[0] | bash -x
 /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/setup-test-env.sh python
 setup.py testr --slowest --testr-args=
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.864 | + set -e
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.865 | ++ mktemp -d CEILO-MONGODB-X
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + MONGO_DATA=CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + MONGO_PORT=29000
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.866 | + trap clean_exit EXIT
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.867 | + mkfifo CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p/out
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.868 | + export
 PATH=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.869 | +
 PATH=/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/.tox/py26/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.869 | + which mongod
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.870 | + echo 'Could not find mongod command'
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.870 | Could not find mongod command
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.871 | + exit 1
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.871 | + clean_exit
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.872 | + local error_code=1
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.872 | + rm -rf CEILO-MONGODB-t6f5p
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.873 | ++ jobs -p
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.873 | + kill
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.874 | kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum |
 -sigspec] pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
 2014-08-12 07:28:07.875 | ERROR: InvocationError: '/bin/bash -x
 /home/jenkins/workspace/gate-ceilometer-python26/setup-test-env.sh python
 setup.py testr --slowest --testr-args='

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[openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-12 Thread Nikola Đipanov
Hey Nova-istas,

While I was hacking on [1] I was considering how to approach the fact
that we now need to track one more thing (NUMA node utilization) in our
resources. I went with - I'll add it to compute nodes table thinking
it's a fundamental enough property of a compute host that it deserves to
be there, although I was considering  Extensible Resource Tracker at one
point (ERT from now on - see [2]) but looking at the code - it did not
seem to provide anything I desperately needed, so I went with keeping it
simple.

So fast-forward a few days, and I caught myself solving a problem that I
kept thinking ERT should have solved - but apparently hasn't, and I
think it is fundamentally a broken design without it - so I'd really
like to see it re-visited.

The problem can be described by the following lemma (if you take 'lemma'
to mean 'a sentence I came up with just now' :)):


Due to the way scheduling works in Nova (roughly: pick a host based on
stale(ish) data, rely on claims to trigger a re-schedule), _same exact_
information that scheduling service used when making a placement
decision, needs to be available to the compute service when testing the
placement.


This is not the case right now, and the ERT does not propose any way to
solve it - (see how I hacked around needing to be able to get
extra_specs when making claims in [3], without hammering the DB). The
result will be that any resource that we add and needs user supplied
info for scheduling an instance against it, will need a buggy
re-implementation of gathering all the bits from the request that
scheduler sees, to be able to work properly.

This is obviously a bigger concern when we want to allow users to pass
data (through image or flavor) that can affect scheduling, but still a
huge concern IMHO.

As I see that there are already BPs proposing to use this IMHO broken
ERT ([4] for example), which will surely add to the proliferation of
code that hacks around these design shortcomings in what is already a
messy, but also crucial (for perf as well as features) bit of Nova code.

I propose to revert [2] ASAP since it is still fresh, and see how we can
come up with a cleaner design.

Would like to hear opinions on this, before I propose the patch tho!

Thanks all,

Nikola

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virt-driver-numa-placement
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109643/
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111782/
[4] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] tox -epy26 failed because of insufficient test environment

2014-08-12 Thread Osanai, Hisashi

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:05 PM, Dina Belova wrote:
 that is blocking the Ceilometer gate at all for now.

Thank you for your quick response.
I understand current situation.

Thanks again!
Hisashi Osanai

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] tox -epy26 failed because of insufficient test environment

2014-08-12 Thread Dina Belova
Folks, it looks like mongo packages were retired as a result of this
ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5963
Although also it looks like this mistake was quickly reverted here:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/mongodb.git/commit/?h=el6

Let's wait if it fixed the issue, but it looks like it should be ok for now.

Thanks,
Dina


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osanai.hisa...@jp.fujitsu.com wrote:


 On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:05 PM, Dina Belova wrote:
  that is blocking the Ceilometer gate at all for now.

 Thank you for your quick response.
 I understand current situation.

 Thanks again!
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[openstack-dev] [keystone] Configuring protected API functions to allow public access

2014-08-12 Thread K.W.S.Siu
Hi All,

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you can configure the Keystone 
policy.json to allow public access to an API function, as far as I can tell you 
can allow access to any authenticated user regardless of role assignments but 
not public access.

My use case is a client which allows users to query for a list of supported 
identity providers / protocols so that the user can then select which provider 
to authenticate with - as the user is unauthenticated at the time of the query 
the request needs to allow public access to the 'List Identity Providers' API 
function.

I can remove the protected decorator from the required functions but this is a 
nasty hack.

I suggest that it should be possible to configure this kind of access rule on a 
deployment by deployment basis and I was just hoping to get some thoughts on 
this.

Many thanks,
Kristy
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-12 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi Chuck,
I'll comment regarding Mellanox Plug-in and Ml2 Mech driver  in the review.
BR,
Irena 

-Original Message-
From: Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron) [mailto:chuck.carl...@hp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:42 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

Yamamoto has reviewed the changes for this, and has raised the following issue 
(among others).


  *   iirc mellanox uses mac address as port identifier. what happens on 
address change?

Can someone who knows mellanox please comment, either here or in the review?

Thanks,
Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron) 
chuck.carl...@hp.commailto:chuck.carl...@hp.com wrote:

Thanks for the quick responses.

Here's the WIP review:

https://review.openstack.org/112129.

The base plugin doesn't contribute to the notification decision right now, so 
I've modified the actual plugin code.

Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Amir Sadoughi 
amir.sadou...@rackspace.commailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.commailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com
wrote:

I agree with Kevin here. Just a note, don't bother with openvswitch and 
linuxbridge plugins as they are marked for deletion this cycle, imminently 
(already deprecated)[0].

Amir

[0] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-04-21.02.html
 Announcements 2e.

From: Kevin Benton 
[blak...@gmail.commailto:blak...@gmail.commailto:blak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some code 
in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes propagate 
to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
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 wrote:
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268

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Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:00 PM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 08/06/2014 05:48 PM, John Griffith wrote:
 I have to agree with Duncan here.  I also don't know if I fully understand 
 the limit in options.  Stress test seems like it could/should be different 
 (again overlap isn't a horrible thing) and I don't see it as siphoning off 
 resources so not sure of the issue.  We've become quite wrapped up in 
 projects, programs and the like lately and it seems to hinder forward 
 progress more than anything else.
 
 I'm also not convinced that Tempest is where all things belong, in fact I've 
 been thinking more and more that a good bit of what Tempest does today 
 should fall more on the responsibility of the projects themselves.  For 
 example functional testing of features etc, ideally I'd love to have more of 
 that fall on the projects and their respective teams.  That might even be 
 something as simple to start as saying if you contribute a new feature, you 
 have to also provide a link to a contribution to the Tempest test-suite that 
 checks it.  Sort of like we do for unit tests, cross-project tracking is 
 difficult of course, but it's a start.  The other idea is maybe functional 
 test harnesses live in their respective projects.
 
 Honestly I think who better to write tests for a project than the folks 
 building and contributing to the project.  At some point IMO the QA team 
 isn't going to scale.  I wonder if maybe we should be thinking about 
 proposals for delineating responsibility and goals in terms of functional 
 testing?
 
 
 
 All good points. Your last paragraph was discussed by the QA team leading up 
 to and at the Atlanta summit. The conclusion was that the api/functional 
 tests focused on a single project should be part of that project. As Sean 
 said, we can envision there being half (or some other much smaller number) as 
 many such tests in tempest going forward.
 
 Details are under discussion, but the way this is likely to play out is that 
 individual projects will start by creating their own functional tests outside 
 of tempest. Swift already does this and neutron seems to be moving in that 
 direction. There is a spec to break out parts of tempest 
 (https://github.com/openstack/qa-specs/blob/master/specs/tempest-library.rst) 
 into a library that might be used by projects implementing functional tests. 
 
 Once a project has sufficient functional testing, we can consider removing 
 its api tests from tempest. This is a bit tricky because tempest needs to 
 cover *all* cross-project interactions. In this respect, there is no clear 
 line in tempest between scenario tests which have this goal explicitly, and 
 api tests which may also involve interactions that might not be covered in a 
 scenario. So we will need a principled way to make sure there is complete 
 cross-project coverage in tempest with a smaller number of api tests. 
 
  -David

We need to be careful about dumping the tests from tempest now that the DefCore 
group is relying on them as well. Tempest is no longer just a 
developer/QA/operations tool. It’s also being used as the basis of a trademark 
enforcement tool. That’s not to say we can’t change the test suite, but we have 
to consider a new angle when doing so.

Doug

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[openstack-dev] [neutron] Feature Proposal Freeze is 9 days away

2014-08-12 Thread Kyle Mestery
Just a reminder that Neutron observes FPF [1], and it's 9 days away.
We have an incredible amount of BPs which do not have code submitted
yet. My suggestion to those who own one of these BPs would be to think
hard about whether or not you can realistically land this code in Juno
before jamming things up at the last minute.

I hope we as a team can refocus on the remaining Juno tasks for the
rest of Juno now and land items of importance to the community at the
end.

Thanks!
Kyle

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Aug 11 2014, Joshua Harlow wrote:

 Sounds great, I've been wondering why
 https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/commit/f3e11e40f9871f8328 happened/merged
 (maybe it should be changed?).

For the simple reason that there's people wanting to use a lock
distributed against several processes without being distributed against
several nodes. In that case, having a ZK or memcached backend is useless
as IPC is good enough.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] gate-ceilometer-python33 failed because of wrong setup.py in happybase

2014-08-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Aug 12 2014, Osanai, Hisashi wrote:

 I did cherry-pick for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1326250; 
 and 
 executed git review (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112806/).

 In review phase I got the error message from Jenkins.
 The reason of the error is happybase-0.8 (latest one) uses execfile 
 function and 
 the usage of the function is removed from python.

The py33 gate shouldn't be activated for the stable/icehouse. I'm no
infra-config expert, but we should be able to patch it for that (hint?).

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Add a pollster plugin

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Aug 12, 2014, at 4:11 AM, Duan, Li-Gong (Gary@HPServers-Core-OE-PSC) 
li-gong.d...@hp.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,
  
 Is there any best practices or good way to debug whether new pollster plugin 
 work fine for ceilometer?
  
 I’d like to add a new pollster plugin into Ceilometer by
  - adding a new item under enterypoint/ceilometer.poll.central in 
 setup.cfg file
  - adding the implementation code inheriting “plugin.CentralPollster”. 
  
 But when I “sudo python setup.py install” and restart ceilometer-related 
 services in devstack, NO new metering is displayed upon “ceilometer 
 meter-list” and I expect that there should be a new metering showing the item 
 defined in setup.cfg.
 Is there any other source/config files I need to modify or add?

You need to define a pipeline [1] to include the data from your new pollster 
and schedule it to be run. 

Doug

[1] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/configuration.html#pipelines

  
 Thanks in advance,
 Gary
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

2014-08-12 Thread Gary Kotton
Thanks, the concern is for the code in Nova and not in Neutron. That is, there 
is quite a lot of PCI code being added and no way of knowing that it actually 
works (unless we trust the developers working on it :)).
Thanks
Gary

From: Irena Berezovsky ire...@mellanox.commailto:ire...@mellanox.com
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 at 10:25 AM
To: OpenStack List 
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Cc: Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.commailto:gkot...@vmware.com
Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

Hi Gary,
Mellanox already established CI support on Mellanox SR-IOV NICs, as one of the 
jobs of Mellanox External Testing CI 
(Check-MLNX-Neutron-ML2-Sriov-driverhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://144.76.193.39/ci-artifacts/94888/13/Check-MLNX-Neutron-ML2-Sriov-driverk=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=eH0pxTUZo8NPZyF6hgoMQu%2BfDtysg45MkPhCZFxPEq8%3D%0Am=OFhjKT9ipKmAmkiQpq6hlqZIHthaGP7q1PTygNW2RXs%3D%0As=13fdee114a421eeed33edf26a639f8450df6efa361ba912c41694ff75292e789).
Meanwhile not voting, but will be soon.

BR,
Irena

From: Gary Kotton [mailto:gkot...@vmware.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:17 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

Thanks for the update.

From: Robert Li (baoli) ba...@cisco.commailto:ba...@cisco.com
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Date: Monday, August 11, 2014 at 5:08 PM
To: OpenStack List 
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

Gary,

Cisco is adding it in our CI testbed. I guess that mlnx is doing the same for 
their MD as well.

-Robert

On 8/11/14, 9:05 AM, Gary Kotton 
gkot...@vmware.commailto:gkot...@vmware.com wrote:

Hi,
At the moment all of the drivers are required CI support. Are there any plans 
regarding the PIC support. I understand that this is something that requires 
specific hardware. Are there any plans to add this?
Thanks
Gary
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/12/2014 05:54 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
 I am less concerned about the contents of this patch, and more concerned
 with how such a big de facto change in nova policy (we accept untested code
 sometimes) without any discussion or consensus. In your comment on the
 revert [2], you say the 'whether not-CI-tested features should be allowed
 to be merged' debate is 'clearly unresolved.' How did you get to that
 conclusion? This was never brought up in the mid-cycles as a unresolved
 topic to be discussed. In our specs template we say Is this untestable in
 gate given current limitations (specific hardware / software configurations
 available)? If so, are there mitigation plans (3rd party testing, gate
 enhancements, etc) [3].  We have been blocking untested features for some
 time now.
 
 That last lines are nonsense. We have never unconditionally blocked untested
 features nor do I recommend that we do so. The specs template testing allows
 the contributor to *justify* why they think the feature is worth accepting
 despite lack of testing. The reviewers make a judgement call on whether the
 justification is valid or not. This is a pragmmatic approach to the problem.

That has been my interpretation and approach as well: we strongly prefer
functional testing for everything, but take a pragmatic approach and
evaluate proposals on a case by case basis.  It's clear we need to be a
bit more explicit here.

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[openstack-dev] Implications of moving functional tests to projects (was Re: Which program for Rally)

2014-08-12 Thread David Kranz

Changing subject line to continue thread about new $subj

On 08/12/2014 08:56 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:


On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:00 PM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com 
mailto:dkr...@redhat.com wrote:



On 08/06/2014 05:48 PM, John Griffith wrote:
I have to agree with Duncan here.  I also don't know if I fully 
understand the limit in options.  Stress test seems like it 
could/should be different (again overlap isn't a horrible thing) and 
I don't see it as siphoning off resources so not sure of the issue. 
 We've become quite wrapped up in projects, programs and the like 
lately and it seems to hinder forward progress more than anything else.


I'm also not convinced that Tempest is where all things belong, in 
fact I've been thinking more and more that a good bit of what 
Tempest does today should fall more on the responsibility of the 
projects themselves.  For example functional testing of features 
etc, ideally I'd love to have more of that fall on the projects and 
their respective teams.  That might even be something as simple to 
start as saying if you contribute a new feature, you have to also 
provide a link to a contribution to the Tempest test-suite that 
checks it.  Sort of like we do for unit tests, cross-project 
tracking is difficult of course, but it's a start.  The other idea 
is maybe functional test harnesses live in their respective projects.


Honestly I think who better to write tests for a project than the 
folks building and contributing to the project.  At some point IMO 
the QA team isn't going to scale.  I wonder if maybe we should be 
thinking about proposals for delineating responsibility and goals in 
terms of functional testing?




All good points. Your last paragraph was discussed by the QA team 
leading up to and at the Atlanta summit. The conclusion was that the 
api/functional tests focused on a single project should be part of 
that project. As Sean said, we can envision there being half (or some 
other much smaller number) as many such tests in tempest going forward.


Details are under discussion, but the way this is likely to play out 
is that individual projects will start by creating their own 
functional tests outside of tempest. Swift already does this and 
neutron seems to be moving in that direction. There is a spec to 
break out parts of tempest 
(https://github.com/openstack/qa-specs/blob/master/specs/tempest-library.rst) 
into a library that might be used by projects implementing functional 
tests.


Once a project has sufficient functional testing, we can consider 
removing its api tests from tempest. This is a bit tricky because 
tempest needs to cover *all* cross-project interactions. In this 
respect, there is no clear line in tempest between scenario tests 
which have this goal explicitly, and api tests which may also involve 
interactions that might not be covered in a scenario. So we will need 
a principled way to make sure there is complete cross-project 
coverage in tempest with a smaller number of api tests.


 -David


We need to be careful about dumping the tests from tempest now that 
the DefCore group is relying on them as well. Tempest is no longer 
just a developer/QA/operations tool. It's also being used as the basis 
of a trademark enforcement tool. That's not to say we can't change the 
test suite, but we have to consider a new angle when doing so.


Doug
Thanks, Doug. We need to get away from acceptance test == tempest 
while retaining the ability to define and run an acceptance test as 
easily as tempest can be run now. My view is that functional tests in 
projects should have the capability to be run against real clouds, and 
that in-project functional tests should look like, and be 
interchangeable with, the api tests in tempest. The in-project tests 
would be focused on completeness of api testing and the tempest tests 
focused on cross-project interaction, but they could be run in similar 
ways. Then a trademark enforcement tool, or any other kind of acceptance 
test, could select which tests to run. I think this view may be a bit 
controversial but your point obviously needs to be addressed.



 -David



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Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Core team proposals

2014-08-12 Thread Dean Troyer
These changes have been completed.  Welcome Ian!

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[openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
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Hey all,

as per [1], Cisco Nexus ML2 plugin requires a patched version of
ncclient from github. I wonder:

- - whether this information is still current;
- - why don't we depend on ncclient thru our requirements.txt file.

[1]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2/MechCiscoNexus

Cheers,
/Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sure, thats great as to why a feature like it might exist (and I think 
such a feature is great to have, for cases when a bigger *distributed* 
system isn't desired).


Just the one there taken from lockutils has some issues that IMHO I 
think tooz would be better to avoid for the time-being (until 
pylockfile is updated to have a more reliable implementation). Some of 
the current issues I can think of off the top of my head:


1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1327946 (this means the usage 
in tooz will be similarily not resistant to program termination, which 
in a library like tooz seems more severe, since tooz has no way of 
knowing how it, as a library, will be used). With this bug future 
acquisition after *forceful* program termination will result in the 
acquire() method not working for the same IPClock name (ever).


2. The double API, tooz configures lockutils one way, someone else can 
go under tooz and use `set_defaults()` (or other ways that I'm not 
aware of that can be used to configure oslo.config) and expect that the 
settings they will have set will actually do something, when in fact 
they will not (or will they???). This seems like a bad point of 
confusion for an API to have, where some of its API is from 
methods/functions... and some is from oslo.config...


3. Bringing in oslo.config as a dependency (tooz isn't configured via 
oslo.config but now it has code that looks like it is configured this 
via it). What happens if the parts of tooz now are set by oslo.config 
and some parts aren't? This seems bad from a user experience (where the 
user is the library user) point of view and a testability point of view 
(and probably other points of view that I can't think of), when there 
are new options that can be set via a *secret* API that now affect how 
tooz works...


4. What happens with windows here (since tooz is a library it's hard to 
predict how it will be used, unless windows is not supported)? Windows 
will resort back to using a filelock, which will default to using 
whatever oslo.config file path was set for tooz, which again goes back 
to #2 and #3 and having 2 apis, one public and one *secret* that can 
affect how tooz operates... In this case it seems 
`default=os.environ.get(TOOZ_LOCK_PATH)` will be used, when that's 
not set tooz now blows up with a weird configuration error @ 
https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/blob/master/tooz/openstack/common/lockutils.py#L222 
(this all seems bad for users of tooz)...


What do u think about waiting until pylockfile is ready and avoiding 
1-4 from above? At least if taskflow uses tooz I surely don't want 
taskflow to have to deal with #1-4 (which it will inherit from tooz if 
taskflow starts to use tooz by the very nature of taskflow using tooz 
as a library).


Thoughts?

-Josh

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info 
wrote:

On Mon, Aug 11 2014, Joshua Harlow wrote:


 Sounds great, I've been wondering why
 https://github.com/stackforge/tooz/commit/f3e11e40f9871f8328 
happened/merged

 (maybe it should be changed?).


For the simple reason that there's people wanting to use a lock
distributed against several processes without being distributed 
against
several nodes. In that case, having a ZK or memcached backend is 
useless

as IPC is good enough.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-12 Thread Sylvain Bauza

Hi Nikola,

Le 12/08/2014 12:21, Nikola Đipanov a écrit :

Hey Nova-istas,

While I was hacking on [1] I was considering how to approach the fact
that we now need to track one more thing (NUMA node utilization) in our
resources. I went with - I'll add it to compute nodes table thinking
it's a fundamental enough property of a compute host that it deserves to
be there, although I was considering  Extensible Resource Tracker at one
point (ERT from now on - see [2]) but looking at the code - it did not
seem to provide anything I desperately needed, so I went with keeping it
simple.

So fast-forward a few days, and I caught myself solving a problem that I
kept thinking ERT should have solved - but apparently hasn't, and I
think it is fundamentally a broken design without it - so I'd really
like to see it re-visited.

The problem can be described by the following lemma (if you take 'lemma'
to mean 'a sentence I came up with just now' :)):


Due to the way scheduling works in Nova (roughly: pick a host based on
stale(ish) data, rely on claims to trigger a re-schedule), _same exact_
information that scheduling service used when making a placement
decision, needs to be available to the compute service when testing the
placement.


This is not the case right now, and the ERT does not propose any way to
solve it - (see how I hacked around needing to be able to get
extra_specs when making claims in [3], without hammering the DB). The
result will be that any resource that we add and needs user supplied
info for scheduling an instance against it, will need a buggy
re-implementation of gathering all the bits from the request that
scheduler sees, to be able to work properly.


Well, ERT does provide a plugin mechanism for testing resources at the 
claim level. This is the plugin responsibility to implement a test() 
method [2.1] which will be called when test_claim() [2.2]


So, provided this method is implemented, a local host check can be done 
based on the host's view of resources.




This is obviously a bigger concern when we want to allow users to pass
data (through image or flavor) that can affect scheduling, but still a
huge concern IMHO.


And here is where I agree with you : at the moment, ResourceTracker (and 
consequently Extensible RT) only provides the view of the resources the 
host is knowing (see my point above) and possibly some other resources 
are missing.
So, whatever your choice of going with or without ERT, your patch [3] 
still deserves it if we want not to lookup DB each time a claim goes.




As I see that there are already BPs proposing to use this IMHO broken
ERT ([4] for example), which will surely add to the proliferation of
code that hacks around these design shortcomings in what is already a
messy, but also crucial (for perf as well as features) bit of Nova code.


Two distinct implementations of that spec (ie. instances and flavors) 
have been proposed [2.3] [2.4] so reviews are welcome. If you see the 
test() method, it's no-op thing for both plugins. I'm open to comments 
because I have the stated problem : how can we define a limit on just a 
counter of instances and flavors ?





I propose to revert [2] ASAP since it is still fresh, and see how we can
come up with a cleaner design.

Would like to hear opinions on this, before I propose the patch tho!


IMHO, I think the problem is more likely that the regular RT misses some 
information for each host so it requires to handle it on a case-by-case 
basis, but I don't think ERT either increases complexity or creates 
another issue.



Thanks,
-Sylvain


Thanks all,

Nikola

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virt-driver-numa-placement
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109643/
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111782/
[4] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893

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[2.1] 
https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resources/__init__.py#L75
[2.2] 
https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/claims.py#L134


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-12 Thread Sylvain Bauza

(sorry for reposting, missed 2 links...)

Hi Nikola,

Le 12/08/2014 12:21, Nikola Đipanov a écrit :

Hey Nova-istas,

While I was hacking on [1] I was considering how to approach the fact
that we now need to track one more thing (NUMA node utilization) in our
resources. I went with - I'll add it to compute nodes table thinking
it's a fundamental enough property of a compute host that it deserves to
be there, although I was considering  Extensible Resource Tracker at one
point (ERT from now on - see [2]) but looking at the code - it did not
seem to provide anything I desperately needed, so I went with keeping it
simple.

So fast-forward a few days, and I caught myself solving a problem that I
kept thinking ERT should have solved - but apparently hasn't, and I
think it is fundamentally a broken design without it - so I'd really
like to see it re-visited.

The problem can be described by the following lemma (if you take 'lemma'
to mean 'a sentence I came up with just now' :)):


Due to the way scheduling works in Nova (roughly: pick a host based on
stale(ish) data, rely on claims to trigger a re-schedule), _same exact_
information that scheduling service used when making a placement
decision, needs to be available to the compute service when testing the
placement.


This is not the case right now, and the ERT does not propose any way to
solve it - (see how I hacked around needing to be able to get
extra_specs when making claims in [3], without hammering the DB). The
result will be that any resource that we add and needs user supplied
info for scheduling an instance against it, will need a buggy
re-implementation of gathering all the bits from the request that
scheduler sees, to be able to work properly.


Well, ERT does provide a plugin mechanism for testing resources at the 
claim level. This is the plugin responsibility to implement a test() 
method [2.1] which will be called when test_claim() [2.2]


So, provided this method is implemented, a local host check can be done 
based on the host's view of resources.




This is obviously a bigger concern when we want to allow users to pass
data (through image or flavor) that can affect scheduling, but still a
huge concern IMHO.


And here is where I agree with you : at the moment, ResourceTracker (and 
consequently Extensible RT) only provides the view of the resources the 
host is knowing (see my point above) and possibly some other resources 
are missing.
So, whatever your choice of going with or without ERT, your patch [3] 
still deserves it if we want not to lookup DB each time a claim goes.




As I see that there are already BPs proposing to use this IMHO broken
ERT ([4] for example), which will surely add to the proliferation of
code that hacks around these design shortcomings in what is already a
messy, but also crucial (for perf as well as features) bit of Nova code.


Two distinct implementations of that spec (ie. instances and flavors) 
have been proposed [2.3] [2.4] so reviews are welcome. If you see the 
test() method, it's no-op thing for both plugins. I'm open to comments 
because I have the stated problem : how can we define a limit on just a 
counter of instances and flavors ?





I propose to revert [2] ASAP since it is still fresh, and see how we can
come up with a cleaner design.

Would like to hear opinions on this, before I propose the patch tho!


IMHO, I think the problem is more likely that the regular RT misses some 
information for each host so it requires to handle it on a case-by-case 
basis, but I don't think ERT either increases complexity or creates 
another issue.



Thanks,
-Sylvain


Thanks all,

Nikola

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/virt-driver-numa-placement
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109643/
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111782/
[4] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89893

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[2.1] 
https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resources/__init__.py#L75
[2.2] 
https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/claims.py#L134

[2.3] https://review.openstack.org/112578
[2.4] https://review.openstack.org/113373



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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Aug 12 2014, Joshua Harlow wrote:

[…]

 What do u think about waiting until pylockfile is ready and avoiding 1-4
 from above? At least if taskflow uses tooz I surely don't want taskflow to
 have to deal with #1-4 (which it will inherit from tooz if taskflow starts
 to use tooz by the very nature of taskflow using tooz as a library).

I definitely agree with you! The thing is that I wanted to have this for
Gnocchi and the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110260/ which is
going to be simplified by that. So I went ahead and implemented a first
version of the IPC driver, which as you point out, is far from being
perfect.

Now, if you think – and you have good points – that the IPC driver in
tooz could be better, I'm not going to disagree, and patches are
welcome! :-)

-- 
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[openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey

(Terrible name for a policy, I know)

From the version_cap saga here:

  https://review.openstack.org/110754

I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
like this.

Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
procedure to be:

  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
Development policies doc.

Mark.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 Hey
 
 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)
 
 From the version_cap saga here:
 
   https://review.openstack.org/110754
 
 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.
 
 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:
 
   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy
 
 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.

Looks reasonable to me.

-- 
Russell Bryant

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-12 Thread Henry Gessau
On 8/12/2014 10:27 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
 as per [1], Cisco Nexus ML2 plugin requires a patched version of
 ncclient from github. I wonder:
 
 - - whether this information is still current;

Please see:
https://review.openstack.org/112175

But we need to do backports before updating the wiki.

 - - why don't we depend on ncclient thru our requirements.txt file.

Do we want to have requirements on things that are only used by a specific
vendor plugin? So far it has worked by vendor-specific documentation
instructing to manually install the requirement, or vendor-tailored deployment
tools/scripts.

 
 [1]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2/MechCiscoNexus


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Dan Smith
 Looks reasonable to me.

+1

--Dan



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Re: [openstack-dev] Gantt project

2014-08-12 Thread John Dickinson
Thanks for the info. It does seem like most OpenStack projects have some 
concept of a scheduler, as you mentioned. Perhaps that's expected in any 
distributed system.

Is it expected or assumed that Gantt will become the common scheduler for all 
OpenStack projects? That is, is Gantt's plan and/or design goals to provide 
scheduling (or a scheduling framework) for all OpenStack projects? Perhaps 
this is a question for the TC rather than Don. [1]

Since Gantt is initially intended to be used by Nova, will it be under the 
compute program or will there be a new program created for it?


--John


[1] You'll forgive me, but I've certainly seen OpenStack projects move from 
you can use it if you want to you must start using this in the past.




On Aug 11, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com 
wrote:

 This is to make sure that everyone knows about the Gantt project and to make 
 sure that no one has a strong aversion to what we are doing.
  
 The basic goal is to split the scheduler out of Nova and create a separate 
 project that, ultimately, can be used by other OpenStack projects that have a 
 need for scheduling services.  Note that we have no intention of forcing 
 people to use Gantt but it seems silly to have a scheduler inside Nova, 
 another scheduler inside Cinder, another scheduler inside Neutron and so 
 forth.  This is clearly predicated on the idea that we can create a common, 
 flexible scheduler that can meet everyone’s needs but, as I said, theirs is 
 no rule that any project has to use Gantt, if we don’t meet your needs you 
 are free to roll your own scheduler.
  
 We will start out by just splitting the scheduler code out of Nova into a 
 separate project that will initially only be used by Nova.  This will be 
 followed by enhancements, like a common API, that can then be utilized by 
 other projects.
  
 We are cleaning up the internal interfaces in the Juno release with the 
 expectation that early in the Kilo cycle we will be able to do the split and 
 create a Gantt project that is completely compatible with the current Nova 
 scheduler.
  
 Hopefully our initial goal (a separate project that is completely compatible 
 with the Nova scheduler) is not too controversial but feel free to reply with 
 any concerns you may have.
  
 --
 Don Dugger
 Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale
 Ph: 303/443-3786



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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Eric Windisch
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com wrote:

 I did not have the environment set up now, but by reviewing code, I think
 that the logic should be as following:
 1) When using nova docker driver, we can use cloud-init or/and CMD in
 docker images to run post install scripts.
 myapp:
 Type: OS::Nova::Server
 Properties:
 flavor: m1.small
 image: my-app:latest   docker image
 user-data:  

 2) When using heat docker driver, we can only use CMD in docker image or
 heat template to run post install scripts.
 wordpress:
 type: DockerInc::Docker::Container
 depends_on: [database]
 properties:
   image: wordpress
   links:
 db: mysql
   port_bindings:
 80/tcp: [{HostPort: 80}]
   docker_endpoint:
 str_replace:
   template: http://host:2345/
   params:
 host: {get_attr: [docker_host, networks, private, 0]}
 cmd: /bin/bash 



I can confirm this is correct for both use-cases. Currently, using Nova,
one may only specify the CMD in the image itself, or as glance metadata.
The cloud metadata service should be assessable and usable from Docker.

The Heat plugin allow settings the CMD as a resource property. The
user-data is only passed to the instance that runs Docker, not the
containers. Configuring the CMD and/or environment variables for the
container is the correct approach.

-- 
Regards,
Eric Windisch
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Configuring protected API functions to allow public access

2014-08-12 Thread Yee, Guang
Hi Kristy,

Have you try the [] or @ rule as mentioned here?

https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/
policy.py#L71



Guang


 -Original Message-
 From: K.W.S.Siu [mailto:k.w.s@kent.ac.uk]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:44 AM
 To: openstack Mailing List
 Subject: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Configuring protected API functions
 to allow public access
 
 Hi All,
 
 Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you can configure the
 Keystone policy.json to allow public access to an API function, as far
 as I can tell you can allow access to any authenticated user regardless
 of role assignments but not public access.
 
 My use case is a client which allows users to query for a list of
 supported identity providers / protocols so that the user can then
 select which provider to authenticate with - as the user is
 unauthenticated at the time of the query the request needs to allow
 public access to the 'List Identity Providers' API function.
 
 I can remove the protected decorator from the required functions but
 this is a nasty hack.
 
 I suggest that it should be possible to configure this kind of access
 rule on a deployment by deployment basis and I was just hoping to get
 some thoughts on this.
 
 Many thanks,
 Kristy
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Pipes

On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:

Hey

(Terrible name for a policy, I know)

 From the version_cap saga here:

   https://review.openstack.org/110754

I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
like this.

Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
procedure to be:

   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
Development policies doc.


Eminently reasonable. +1

-jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-12 Thread Stephane Albert
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:47:49PM +1200, Fei Long Wang wrote:
 Our suggestion for the first IRC meeting is 25/August 8PM-10PM UTC time on
 Freenodes's #openstack-rating channel.
 
 Thoughts? Please reply with the best date/time for you so we can figure out a
 time to start.
 

I'll like to participate to this meeting, but one of my colleagues will
not be available on the 25th. Maybe we can shift the date to the 26th?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hey

 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)

 From the version_cap saga here:

   https://review.openstack.org/110754

 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.

 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:

   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.

This looks good to me as well, and personally, I think this type of
thing should be project wide. I'd be keen to adopt this for Neutron as
well.

Kyle

 Mark.


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[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for access 
control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is wrapped from 
within the decorator.

For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an @secure 
decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it was called by 
MetersController.get_all?

I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can get the 
endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not as elegant.

Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this information to the 
decorator?

Thanks
Eric Pendergrass
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:

 Hey

 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)

  From the version_cap saga here:

https://review.openstack.org/110754

 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.

 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.


 Eminently reasonable. +1


+1




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Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-12 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Per the blueprint spec [1], what has been proposed are optional
extensions which complement the existing Neutron core resources'
model:


The main advantage of the extensions described in this blueprint is
that they allow for an application-centric interface to Neutron that
complements the existing network-centric interface.


It has been pointed out earlier in this thread that this is not a
replacement for the current Neutron core resources/API.

[1] 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89469/10/specs/juno/group-based-policy-abstraction.rst,cm

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:22 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 Below are some other useful GBP reference pages:
 https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Project_Proposals:Group_Based_Policy_Plugin
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/netmgtsw/ps13004/ps13460/white-paper-c11-729906_ns1261_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html

 I think the root cause of this long argument, is that GBP core model was not
 designed native for Neutron, and they are introduced into Neutron so
 radically, without careful tailoring and adaption. Maybe the GBP team also
 don't want to do so, their intention is to maintain a unified model across
 all kinds of platform including Neutron, Opendaylight, ACI/Opflex, etc.

 However, redundancy and duplication exists between EP/EPG/BD/RD and
 Port/Network/Subnet. So mapping is used between these objects, and I think
 this is why so many voice to request moving GBP out and on top of Neutron.

 Will GBP simply be an *addition*? It absolutely COULD be, but objectively
 speaking, it's core model also allow it to BE-ABLE-TO take over Neutron core
 resource (see the wiki above). GBP mapping spec suggested a nova -nic
 extension to handle EP/EPG resource directly, thus all original Neutron core
 resource can be shadowed away from user interface: GBP became the new
 openstack network API :-) However no one can say depreciate Neutron core
 here and now, but shall we leave Neutron core just as *traditional/legacy*?

 Personally I prefer not to throw NW-Policy out of Neutron, but at the
 perquisite that its core model should be reviewed and tailored. A new
 lightweight model carefully designed native for Neutron is needed, but not
 directly copying a whole bunch of monolithic core resource from existing
 other system.

 Here is the very basic suggestion: because core value of GBP is policy
 template with contracts , throw away EP/EPG/L2P/L3P model while not just
 renaming them again and again. APPLY policy template to existing Neutron
 core resource, but not reinvent similar concept in GBP and then do the
 mapping.


 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:12 PM, CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote:

 loy wolfe [mailto:loywo...@gmail.com] wrote:



 Then since Network/Subnet/Port will never be treated just as LEGACY

 COMPATIBLE role, there is no need to extend Nova-Neutron interface to

 follow the GBP resource. Anyway, one of optional service plugins inside

 Neutron shouldn't has any impact on Nova side.



 This gets to the root of why I was getting confused about Jay and others

 having Nova related concerns. I was/am assuming that GBP is simply an

 *additional* mechanism for manipulating Neutron, not a deprecation of any

 part of the existing Neutron API. I think Jay's concern and the reason

 why he keeps mentioning Nova as the biggest and most important consumer

 of Neutron's API stems from an assumption that Nova would need to change

 to use the GBP API.





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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Feature Proposal Freeze is 9 days away

2014-08-12 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi

What would be the best practice for those who realize their work will not
make it in Juno? Is it enough to not submit code for review? Would it be
better to also request a change in milestone?

Thanks,

Mohammad




From:   Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date:   08/12/2014 09:15 AM
Subject:[openstack-dev] [neutron] Feature Proposal Freeze is 9 days
away



Just a reminder that Neutron observes FPF [1], and it's 9 days away.
We have an incredible amount of BPs which do not have code submitted
yet. My suggestion to those who own one of these BPs would be to think
hard about whether or not you can realistically land this code in Juno
before jamming things up at the last minute.

I hope we as a team can refocus on the remaining Juno tasks for the
rest of Juno now and land items of importance to the community at the
end.

Thanks!
Kyle

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-12 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi,

I think we are debating some edge-case. An important part of the flavor 
framework is the ability of me the operator to say failover from Octavia to an 
F5. So as an operator I would ensure to only offer the features in that flavor 
which both support. So in order to arrive at Brandon’s example I would have 
misconfigured my environment and rightfully would get errors at the drive level 
– which might be hard to understand for end users but hopefully pretty clear 
for me the operator…

German

From: Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikano...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:56 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver 
interface on every API request

Well, that exactly what we've tried to solve with tags in the flavor.

Considering your example with whole configuration being sent to the driver - i 
think it will be fine to not apply unsupported parts of configuration (like 
such HM) and mark the HM object with error status/status description.

Thanks,
Eugene.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Brandon Logan 
brandon.lo...@rackspace.commailto:brandon.lo...@rackspace.com wrote:
Hi Eugene,
An example of the HM issue (and really this can happen with any entity)
is if the driver the API sends the configuration to does not actually
support the value of an attribute.

For example: Provider A support PING health monitor type, Provider B
does not.  API allows the PING health monitor type to go through.  Once
a load balancer has been linked with that health monitor and the
LoadBalancer chose to use Provider B, that entire configuration is then
sent to the driver.  The driver errors out not on the LoadBalancer
create, but on the health monitor create.

I think that's the issue.

Thanks,
Brandon

On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 00:17 +0400, Eugene Nikanorov wrote:
 Hi folks,


 That actually going in opposite direction to what flavor framework is
 trying to do (and for dispatching it's doing the same as providers).
 REST call dispatching should really go via the root object.


 I don't quite get the issue with health monitors. If HM is incorrectly
 configured prior to association with a pool - API layer should handle
 that.
 I don't think driver implementations should be different at
 constraints to HM parameters.


 So I'm -1 on adding provider (or flavor) to each entity. After all, it
 looks just like data denormalization which actually will affect lots
 of API aspects in negative way.


 Thanks,
 Eugene.




 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Vijay Venkatachalam
 vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.commailto:vijay.venkatacha...@citrix.com wrote:

 Yes, the point was to say the plugin need not restrict and
 let driver decide what to do with the API.

 Even if the call was made to driver instantaneously, I
 understand, the driver might decide to ignore
 first and schedule later. But, if the call is present, there
 is scope for validation.
 Also, the driver might be scheduling an async-api to backend,
 in which case  deployment error
 cannot be shown to the user instantaneously.

 W.r.t. identifying a provider/driver, how would it be to make
 tenant the default root object?
 tenantid is already associated with each of these entities,
 so no additional pain.
 For the tenant who wants to override let him specify provider
 in each of the entities.
 If you think of this in terms of the UI, let's say if the
 loadbalancer configuration is exposed
 as a single wizard (which has loadbalancer, listener, pool,
 monitor properties) then provider
  is chosen only once.

 Curious question, is flavour framework expected to address
 this problem?

 Thanks,
 Vijay V.

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Wiegley 
 [mailto:do...@a10networks.commailto:do...@a10networks.com]

 Sent: 11 August 2014 22:02
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
 questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on
 Calling driver interface on every API request

 Hi Sam,

 Very true.  I think that Vijay’s objection is that we are
 currently imposing a logical structure on the driver, when it
 should be a driver decision.  Certainly, it goes both ways.

 And I also agree that the mechanism for returning multiple
 errors, and the ability to specify whether those errors are
 fatal or not, individually, is currently weak.

 Doug


 On 8/11/14, 10:21 AM, Samuel Bercovici 
 samu...@radware.commailto:samu...@radware.com
 wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 
 In some implementations Driver !== Device. I think this is
 also true
 for HA Proxy.
 This might mean that there is a 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Joshua Harlow

Do u know if ceilometer is using six.wraps?

If so, that helper adds in the `__wrapped__` attribute to decorated 
methods (which can be used to find the original decorated function).


If just plain functools are used (and python3.x isn't used) then it 
will be pretty hard afaik to find the original decorated function (if 
that's the desire).


six.wraps() is new in six 1.7.x so it might not be used in ceilometer 
yet (although maybe it should start to be used?).


-Josh

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Pendergrass, Eric 
eric.pendergr...@hp.com wrote:
Hi, I’m trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for 
access control, and I’ld like to get the name of the method that is 
wrapped from within the decorator.
 
For instance, if I’m wrapping MetersController.get_all with an 
@secure decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it 
was called by MetersController.get_all?
 
I don’t see any global objects that provide this information.  I 
can get the endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but 
that’s not as elegant.
 
Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this 
information to the decorator?
 
Thanks

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Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Bug#1231298 - size parameter for volume creation

2014-08-12 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 11 August 2014 21:03, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Making an previously mandatory parameter optional, at least on the
 command line, does break backward compatibility though, does it?
 Everything that worked before will still work.


 By itself, maybe that is ok.  You're right, nothing _should_ break.  But
 then the following is legal:

 cinder create

 What does that do?

It returns an error. The following becomes legal though:

cinder create --src-volume aaa-bbb-ccc-ddd

cinder create --snapshot aaa-bbb-ccc-ddd

cinder create --image aaa-bbb-ccc-ddd


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Ryan Petrello
This should give you what you need:

from pecan.core import state
state.controller

On 08/12/14 04:08 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
 Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for access 
 control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is wrapped from 
 within the decorator.
 
 For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an @secure 
 decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it was called by 
 MetersController.get_all?
 
 I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can get the 
 endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not as elegant.
 
 Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this information to the 
 decorator?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Cisco NXOS is not tested anymore

2014-08-12 Thread Edgar Magana
If this plugin will be deprecated in Juno it means that the code will be
there for this release, I will expect to have the CI still running for
until the code is completely removed from the Neutron tree.

Anyway, Infra guys will have the last word here!

Edgar

On 8/11/14, 5:38 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

On 08/11/2014 06:31 PM, Henry Gessau wrote:
 On 8/11/2014 7:56 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
 On 08/11/2014 05:46 PM, Henry Gessau wrote:
 Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 On 08/11/2014 05:05 PM, Edgar Magana wrote:
 Cisco Folks,

 I don't see the CI for Cisco NX-OS anymore. Is this being
deprecated?

 I don't ever recall seeing that as a name of a third party gerrit
 account in my list[0], Edgar.

 Do you happen to have a link to a patchset that has that name
attached
 to a comment?

 The Cisco Neutron CI tests at least five different configurations.
By
 NX-OS Edgar is referring to the Cisco Nexus switch configurations.
The CI
 used to run both the monolithic_nexus and ml2_nexus
configurations, but
 the monolithic cisco plugin for nexus is being deprecated for juno
and its
 configuration has already been removed from testing.

 Thanks Henry:

 Do we have a url for patch in gerrit for this or was this an internal
 code change?
 
 This was a change only in the internal 3rd party Jenkins/Zuul settings.
 
 
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Okay.

Perhaps going forward this could be an item for the third party meeting
under the topic of Deadlines  Deprecations:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty Then at the very
least if someone missed the announcement we could have a log of it and
point someone to the conversation.

Thanks Henry,
Anita.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Thanks Ryan, but for some reason the controller attribute is None:

(Pdb) from pecan.core import state
(Pdb) state.__dict__
{'hooks': [ceilometer.api.hooks.ConfigHook object at 0x31894d0, 
ceilometer.api.hooks.DBHook object at 0x3189650, 
ceilometer.api.hooks.PipelineHook object at 0x39871d0, 
ceilometer.api.hooks.TranslationHook object at 0x3aa5510], 'app': 
pecan.core.Pecan object at 0x2e76390, 'request': Request at 0x3ed7390 GET 
http://localhost:8777/v2/meters, 'controller': None, 'response': Response at 
0x3ed74d0 200 OK}

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Petrello [mailto:ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:34 AM
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's 
 name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

 This should give you what you need:

 from pecan.core import state
 state.controller

 On 08/12/14 04:08 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
  Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for access 
  control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is wrapped from 
  within the decorator.
 
  For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an @secure 
  decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it was called by 
  MetersController.get_all?
 
  I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can get 
  the endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not as elegant.
 
  Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this information to 
  the decorator?
 
  Thanks
  Eric Pendergrass

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-12 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 08/12/2014 04:49 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
 (sorry for reposting, missed 2 links...)
 
 Hi Nikola,
 
 Le 12/08/2014 12:21, Nikola Đipanov a écrit :
 Hey Nova-istas,

 While I was hacking on [1] I was considering how to approach the fact
 that we now need to track one more thing (NUMA node utilization) in our
 resources. I went with - I'll add it to compute nodes table thinking
 it's a fundamental enough property of a compute host that it deserves to
 be there, although I was considering  Extensible Resource Tracker at one
 point (ERT from now on - see [2]) but looking at the code - it did not
 seem to provide anything I desperately needed, so I went with keeping it
 simple.

 So fast-forward a few days, and I caught myself solving a problem that I
 kept thinking ERT should have solved - but apparently hasn't, and I
 think it is fundamentally a broken design without it - so I'd really
 like to see it re-visited.

 The problem can be described by the following lemma (if you take 'lemma'
 to mean 'a sentence I came up with just now' :)):

 
 Due to the way scheduling works in Nova (roughly: pick a host based on
 stale(ish) data, rely on claims to trigger a re-schedule), _same exact_
 information that scheduling service used when making a placement
 decision, needs to be available to the compute service when testing the
 placement.
 

 This is not the case right now, and the ERT does not propose any way to
 solve it - (see how I hacked around needing to be able to get
 extra_specs when making claims in [3], without hammering the DB). The
 result will be that any resource that we add and needs user supplied
 info for scheduling an instance against it, will need a buggy
 re-implementation of gathering all the bits from the request that
 scheduler sees, to be able to work properly.
 
 Well, ERT does provide a plugin mechanism for testing resources at the
 claim level. This is the plugin responsibility to implement a test()
 method [2.1] which will be called when test_claim() [2.2]
 
 So, provided this method is implemented, a local host check can be done
 based on the host's view of resources.
 
 

Yes - the problem is there is no clear API to get all the needed bits to
do so - especially the user supplied one from image and flavors.
On top of that, in current implementation we only pass a hand-wavy
'usage' blob in. This makes anyone wanting to use this in conjunction
with some of the user supplied bits roll their own
'extract_data_from_instance_metadata_flavor_image' or similar which is
horrible and also likely bad for performance.

 This is obviously a bigger concern when we want to allow users to pass
 data (through image or flavor) that can affect scheduling, but still a
 huge concern IMHO.
 
 And here is where I agree with you : at the moment, ResourceTracker (and
 consequently Extensible RT) only provides the view of the resources the
 host is knowing (see my point above) and possibly some other resources
 are missing.
 So, whatever your choice of going with or without ERT, your patch [3]
 still deserves it if we want not to lookup DB each time a claim goes.
 
 
 As I see that there are already BPs proposing to use this IMHO broken
 ERT ([4] for example), which will surely add to the proliferation of
 code that hacks around these design shortcomings in what is already a
 messy, but also crucial (for perf as well as features) bit of Nova code.
 
 Two distinct implementations of that spec (ie. instances and flavors)
 have been proposed [2.3] [2.4] so reviews are welcome. If you see the
 test() method, it's no-op thing for both plugins. I'm open to comments
 because I have the stated problem : how can we define a limit on just a
 counter of instances and flavors ?
 

Will look at these - but none of them seem to hit the issue I am
complaining about, and that is that it will need to consider other
request data for claims, not only data available for on instances.

Also - the fact that you don't implement test() in flavor ones tells me
that the implementation is indeed racy (but it is racy atm as well) and
two requests can indeed race for the same host, and since no claims are
done, both can succeed. This is I believe (at least in case of single
flavor hosts) unlikely to happen in practice, but you get the idea.

 
 
 I propose to revert [2] ASAP since it is still fresh, and see how we can
 come up with a cleaner design.

 Would like to hear opinions on this, before I propose the patch tho!
 
 IMHO, I think the problem is more likely that the regular RT misses some
 information for each host so it requires to handle it on a case-by-case
 basis, but I don't think ERT either increases complexity or creates
 another issue.
 

RT does not miss info about the host, but about the particular request
which we have to fish out of different places like image_metadata
extra_specs etc, yet - it can't really work without them. This is
definitely a RT issue that is not specific to ERT.

However, I still see several issues 

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Feature Proposal Freeze is 9 days away

2014-08-12 Thread Kyle Mestery
If you know it won't make it, please let me know so I can remove your BP
from the LP milestone.

Thanks!
Kyle


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi m...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 What would be the best practice for those who realize their work will not
 make it in Juno? Is it enough to not submit code for review? Would it be
 better to also request a change in milestone?

 Thanks,

 Mohammad


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 Mestery ---08/12/2014 09:15:03 AM---Just a reminder that Neutron observes
 FPF [1], and it's 9 days away. We have an incredible amount of

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 Date: 08/12/2014 09:15 AM
 Subject: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Feature Proposal Freeze is 9 days away
 --



 Just a reminder that Neutron observes FPF [1], and it's 9 days away.
 We have an incredible amount of BPs which do not have code submitted
 yet. My suggestion to those who own one of these BPs would be to think
 hard about whether or not you can realistically land this code in Juno
 before jamming things up at the last minute.

 I hope we as a team can refocus on the remaining Juno tasks for the
 rest of Juno now and land items of importance to the community at the
 end.

 Thanks!
 Kyle

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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Configuring protected API functions to allow public access

2014-08-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Yee, Guang guang@hp.com wrote:

 Hi Kristy,

 Have you try the [] or @ rule as mentioned here?


That still requires valid authentication though, just not any specific
authorization. I don't think we have a way to express truly public
resources in oslo.policy.




 https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/openstack/common/
 policy.py#L71



 Guang


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  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 3:44 AM
  To: openstack Mailing List
  Subject: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Configuring protected API functions
  to allow public access
 
  Hi All,
 
  Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you can configure the
  Keystone policy.json to allow public access to an API function, as far
  as I can tell you can allow access to any authenticated user regardless
  of role assignments but not public access.
 
  My use case is a client which allows users to query for a list of
  supported identity providers / protocols so that the user can then
  select which provider to authenticate with - as the user is
  unauthenticated at the time of the query the request needs to allow
  public access to the 'List Identity Providers' API function.
 
  I can remove the protected decorator from the required functions but
  this is a nasty hack.
 
  I suggest that it should be possible to configure this kind of access
  rule on a deployment by deployment basis and I was just hoping to get
  some thoughts on this.
 
  Many thanks,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Ryan Petrello
Can you share some code?  What do you mean by, is there a way for the
decorator code to know it was called by MetersController.get_all

On 08/12/14 04:46 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
 Thanks Ryan, but for some reason the controller attribute is None:
 
 (Pdb) from pecan.core import state
 (Pdb) state.__dict__
 {'hooks': [ceilometer.api.hooks.ConfigHook object at 0x31894d0, 
 ceilometer.api.hooks.DBHook object at 0x3189650, 
 ceilometer.api.hooks.PipelineHook object at 0x39871d0, 
 ceilometer.api.hooks.TranslationHook object at 0x3aa5510], 'app': 
 pecan.core.Pecan object at 0x2e76390, 'request': Request at 0x3ed7390 GET 
 http://localhost:8777/v2/meters, 'controller': None, 'response': Response 
 at 0x3ed74d0 200 OK}
 
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  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:34 AM
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's 
  name/class using Pecan secure decorators?
 
  This should give you what you need:
 
  from pecan.core import state
  state.controller
 
  On 08/12/14 04:08 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
   Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for access 
   control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is wrapped from 
   within the decorator.
  
   For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an @secure 
   decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it was called by 
   MetersController.get_all?
  
   I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can get 
   the endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not as 
   elegant.
  
   Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this information to 
   the decorator?
  
   Thanks
   Eric Pendergrass
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is
  facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the
  ultimate success or failure of OpenStack.
 
  With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural
  setup. This resulted in new limiting factors on our overall velocity,
  which is frustrating for developers. This resulted in the burnout of
 key
  firefighting resources. This resulted in tension between people who try
  to get specific work done and people who try to keep a handle on the
 big
  picture.
 
  It all boils down to an imbalance between strategic and tactical
  contributions. At the beginning of this project, we had a strong inner
  group of people dedicated to fixing all loose ends. Then a lot of
  companies got interested in OpenStack and there was a surge in
 tactical,
  short-term contributions. We put on a call for more resources to be
  dedicated to strategic contributions like critical bugfixing,
  vulnerability management, QA, infrastructure... and that call was
  answered by a lot of companies that are now key members of the
 OpenStack
  Foundation, and all was fine again. But OpenStack contributors kept on
  growing, and we grew the narrowly-focused population way faster than
 the
  cross-project population.
 
 
  At the same time, we kept on adding new projects to incubation and to
  the integrated release, which is great... but the new developers you
 get
  on board with this are much more likely to be tactical than strategic
  contributors. This also contributed to the imbalance. The penalty for
  that imbalance is twofold: we don't have enough resources available to
  solve old, known OpenStack-wide issues; but we also don't have enough
  resources to identify and fix new issues.
 
  We have several efforts under way, like calling for new strategic
  contributors, driving towards in-project functional testing, making
  solving rare issues a more attractive endeavor, or hiring resources
  directly at the Foundation level to help address those. But there is a
  topic we haven't raised yet: should we concentrate on fixing what is
  currently in the integrated release rather than adding new projects ?
 
 
  TL;DR: Our development model is having growing pains. until we sort out
 the
  growing pains adding more projects spreads us too thin.
 
 +100

  In addition to the issues mentioned above, with the scale of OpenStack
 today
  we have many major cross project issues to address and no good place to
  discuss them.
 
 We do have the ML, as well as the cross-project meeting every Tuesday
 [1], but we as a project need to do a better job of actually bringing
 up relevant issues here.

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting

 
 
  We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
  produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
  reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
  happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
  define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
 
 
 
  I really like this idea, as Michael and others alluded to in above, we
 are
  attempting to set cycle goals for Kilo in Nova. but I think it is worth
  doing for all of OpenStack. We would like to make a list of key goals
 before
  the summit so that we can plan our summit sessions around the goals. On
 a
  really high level one way to look at this is, in Kilo we need to pay
 down
  our technical debt.
 
  The slots/runway idea is somewhat separate from defining key cycle
 goals; we
  can be approve blueprints based on key cycle goals without doing slots.
  But
  with so many concurrent blueprints up for review at any given time, the
  review teams are doing a lot of multitasking and humans are not very
 good at
  multitasking. Hopefully slots can help address this issue, and hopefully
  allow us to actually merge more blueprints in a given cycle.
 
 I'm not 100% sold on what the slots idea buys us. What I've seen this
 cycle in Neutron is that we have a LOT of BPs proposed. We approve
 them after review. And then we hit one of two issues: Slow review
 cycles, and slow code turnaround issues. I don't think slots would
 help this, and in fact may cause more issues. If we approve a BP and
 give it a slot for which the eventual result is slow review and/or
 code review turnaround, we're right back where we started. Even worse,
 we may have not picked a BP for which the code submitter would have
 turned around reviews faster. So we've now doubly hurt ourselves. I
 have no idea how to solve this issue, but by over subscribing the
 

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-12 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:06:11PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote:
 On 11/08/14 16:21, Matthew Treinish wrote:
 I'm sorry, but the fact that the
 docs in the rally tree has a section for user testimonials [4] I feel speaks 
 a
 lot about the intent of the project.
 
 What... does that even mean?

Yeah, I apologize for that sentence, it was an unfair thing to say and uncalled
for. Looking at it with fresh eyes this morning I'm not entirely sure what my 
intent
was by pointing out that section. I personally feel that those user stories
would probably be more appropriate as a blog post, and shouldn't necessarily be
in a doc tree. But, that's not the stinging indictment which didn't need any
explanation that I apparently thought it was yesterday; it definitely isn't
something worth calling out on this thread.

 
 They seem like just the type of guys that would help Keystone with
 performance benchmarking!
 Burn them!

I'm pretty sure that's not what I meant. :)

 
 I apologize if any of this is somewhat incoherent, I'm still a bit jet-lagged
 so I'm not sure that I'm making much sense.
 
 Ah.
 

Yeah, let's chalk it up to dulled senses from insufficient sleep and trying to
get back on my usual schedule from a trip down under.

 [4] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/rally/tree/doc/user_stories


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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
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On 12/08/14 17:12, Henry Gessau wrote:
 On 8/12/2014 10:27 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
 as per [1], Cisco Nexus ML2 plugin requires a patched version of 
 ncclient from github. I wonder:
 
 - - whether this information is still current;
 
 Please see: https://review.openstack.org/112175
 
 But we need to do backports before updating the wiki.

Thanks for the link!

 
 - - why don't we depend on ncclient thru our requirements.txt
 file.
 
 Do we want to have requirements on things that are only used by a
 specific vendor plugin? So far it has worked by vendor-specific
 documentation instructing to manually install the requirement, or
 vendor-tailored deployment tools/scripts.
 

In downstream, it's hard to maintain all plugin dependencies if they
are not explicitly mentioned in e.g. requirements.txt. Red Hat ships
those plugins (with no commercial support or testing done on our
side), and we didn't know that to make the plugin actually useable, we
need to install that ncclient module until a person from Cisco
reported the issue to us. We don't usually monitor random wiki pages
to get an idea what we need to package and depend on. :)

I think we should have every third party module that we directly use
in requirements.txt. We have code in the tree that imports ncclient
(btw is it unit tested?), so I think it's enough to make that
dependency explicit.

Now, maybe putting the module into requirements.txt is an overkill
(though I doubt it). In that case, we could be interested in getting
the info in some other centralized way.

/Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 03:56:44PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 Hey
 
 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)
 
 From the version_cap saga here:
 
   https://review.openstack.org/110754
 
 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.
 
 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:
 
   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy
 
 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.

A bit cumbersome, but given we have to work within Gerrit's limitations,
it looks like a valid approach / process to me.

Regards,
Daniel
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Cisco NXOS is not tested anymore

2014-08-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-12 16:35:18 + (+), Edgar Magana wrote:
 If this plugin will be deprecated in Juno it means that the code
 will be there for this release, I will expect to have the CI still
 running for until the code is completely removed from the Neutron
 tree.
 
 Anyway, Infra guys will have the last word here!

It's really not up to the Project Infrastructure Team to decide
this (we merely provide guidance, assistance and, sometimes,
arbitration for such matters). It's ultimately the Neutron developer
community who needs to determine whether they're willing to support
an untested feature through deprecation or insist on continued
testing until its full removal can be realized.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is
  facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the
  ultimate success or failure of OpenStack.
 
  With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural
  setup. This resulted in new limiting factors on our overall velocity,
  which is frustrating for developers. This resulted in the burnout of key
  firefighting resources. This resulted in tension between people who try
  to get specific work done and people who try to keep a handle on the big
  picture.
 
  It all boils down to an imbalance between strategic and tactical
  contributions. At the beginning of this project, we had a strong inner
  group of people dedicated to fixing all loose ends. Then a lot of
  companies got interested in OpenStack and there was a surge in tactical,
  short-term contributions. We put on a call for more resources to be
  dedicated to strategic contributions like critical bugfixing,
  vulnerability management, QA, infrastructure... and that call was
  answered by a lot of companies that are now key members of the OpenStack
  Foundation, and all was fine again. But OpenStack contributors kept on
  growing, and we grew the narrowly-focused population way faster than the
  cross-project population.
 
 
  At the same time, we kept on adding new projects to incubation and to
  the integrated release, which is great... but the new developers you get
  on board with this are much more likely to be tactical than strategic
  contributors. This also contributed to the imbalance. The penalty for
  that imbalance is twofold: we don't have enough resources available to
  solve old, known OpenStack-wide issues; but we also don't have enough
  resources to identify and fix new issues.
 
  We have several efforts under way, like calling for new strategic
  contributors, driving towards in-project functional testing, making
  solving rare issues a more attractive endeavor, or hiring resources
  directly at the Foundation level to help address those. But there is a
  topic we haven't raised yet: should we concentrate on fixing what is
  currently in the integrated release rather than adding new projects ?
 
 
  TL;DR: Our development model is having growing pains. until we sort out the
  growing pains adding more projects spreads us too thin.
 
 +100
 
  In addition to the issues mentioned above, with the scale of OpenStack today
  we have many major cross project issues to address and no good place to
  discuss them.
 
 We do have the ML, as well as the cross-project meeting every Tuesday
 [1], but we as a project need to do a better job of actually bringing
 up relevant issues here.
 
 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting
 
 
 
  We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
  produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
  reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
  happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
  define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
 
 
 
  I really like this idea, as Michael and others alluded to in above, we are
  attempting to set cycle goals for Kilo in Nova. but I think it is worth
  doing for all of OpenStack. We would like to make a list of key goals before
  the summit so that we can plan our summit sessions around the goals. On a
  really high level one way to look at this is, in Kilo we need to pay down
  our technical debt.
 
  The slots/runway idea is somewhat separate from defining key cycle goals; we
  can be approve blueprints based on key cycle goals without doing slots.  But
  with so many concurrent blueprints up for review at any given time, the
  review teams are doing a lot of multitasking and humans are not very good at
  multitasking. Hopefully slots can help address this issue, and hopefully
  allow us to actually merge more blueprints in a given cycle.
 
 I'm not 100% sold on what the slots idea buys us. What I've seen this
 cycle in Neutron is that we have a LOT of BPs proposed. We approve
 them after review. And then we hit one of two issues: Slow review
 cycles, and slow code turnaround issues. I don't think slots would
 help this, and in fact may cause more issues. If we approve a BP and
 give it a slot for which the eventual result is slow review and/or
 code review turnaround, we're right back where we started. Even worse,
 we may have not picked a BP for which the code submitter would have
 turned around reviews faster. So we've now doubly hurt ourselves. I
 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QA] Enabling full neutron Job

2014-08-12 Thread Salvatore Orlando
And just when the patch was only missing a +A, another bug slipped in!
The nova patch to fix it is available at [1]

And while we're there, it won't be a bad idea to also push the neutron full
job, as non-voting, into the integrated gate [2]

Thanks in advance,
(especially to the nova and infra cores who'll review these patches!)
Salvatore

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113554/
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113562/


On 7 August 2014 17:51, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote:

 Thanks Armando,

 The fix for the bug you pointed out was the reason of the failure we've
 been seeing.
 The follow-up patch merged and I've removed the wip status from the patch
 for the full job [1]

 Salvatore

 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/


 On 7 August 2014 16:50, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Salvatore,

 I did notice the issue and I flagged this bug report:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1352141

 I'll follow up.

 Cheers,
 Armando


 On 7 August 2014 01:34, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote:

 I had to put the patch back on WIP because yesterday a bug causing a
 100% failure rate slipped in.
 It should be an easy fix, and I'm already working on it.
 Situations like this, exemplified by [1] are a bit frustrating for all
 the people working on improving neutron quality.
 Now, if you allow me a little rant, as Neutron is receiving a lot of
 attention for all the ongoing discussion regarding this group policy stuff,
 would it be possible for us to receive a bit of attention to ensure both
 the full job and the grenade one are switched to voting before the juno-3
 review crunch.

 We've already had the attention of the QA team, it would probably good
 if we could get the attention of the infra core team to ensure:
 1) the jobs are also deemed by them stable enough to be switched to
 voting
 2) the relevant patches for openstack-infra/config are reviewed

 Regards,
 Salvatore

 [1]
 http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOlwie3UnbWVzc2FnZSc6IHUnRmxvYXRpbmcgaXAgcG9vbCBub3QgZm91bmQuJywgdSdjb2RlJzogNDAwfVwiIEFORCBidWlsZF9uYW1lOlwiY2hlY2stdGVtcGVzdC1kc3ZtLW5ldXRyb24tZnVsbFwiIEFORCBidWlsZF9icmFuY2g6XCJtYXN0ZXJcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiMTcyODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQwNzQwMDExMDIwNywibW9kZSI6IiIsImFuYWx5emVfZmllbGQiOiIifQ==


 On 23 July 2014 14:59, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Salvatore Orlando wrote:
  Here I am again bothering you with the state of the full job for
 Neutron.
 
  The patch for fixing an issue in nova's server external events
 extension
  merged yesterday [1]
  We do not have yet enough data points to make a reliable assessment,
 but of
  out 37 runs since the patch merged, we had only 5 failures, which
 puts
  the failure rate at about 13%
 
  This is ugly compared with the current failure rate of the smoketest
 (3%).
  However, I think it is good enough to start making the full job
 voting at
  least for neutron patches.
  Once we'll be able to bring down failure rate to anything around 5%,
 we can
  then enable the job everywhere.

 I think that sounds like a good plan. I'm also curious how the failure
 rates
 compare to the other non-neutron jobs, that might be a useful
 comparison too
 for deciding when to flip the switch everywhere.

 
  As much as I hate asymmetric gating, I think this is a good
 compromise for
  avoiding developers working on other projects are badly affected by
 the
  higher failure rate in the neutron full job.

 So we discussed this during the project meeting a couple of weeks ago
 [3] and
 there was a general agreement that doing it asymmetrically at first
 would be
 better. Everyone should be wary of the potential harms with doing it
 asymmetrically and I think priority will be given to fixing issues that
 block
 the neutron gate should they arise.

  I will therefore resume work on [2] and remove the WIP status as soon
 as I
  can confirm a failure rate below 15% with more data points.
 

 Thanks for keeping on top of this Salvatore. It'll be good to finally
 be at
 least partially gating with a parallel job.

 -Matt Treinish

 
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103865/
  [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/
 [3]
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2014/project.2014-07-08-21.03.log.html#l-28

 
 
  On 10 July 2014 11:49, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote:
 
  
  
  
   On 10 July 2014 11:27, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:
  
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA512
  
   On 10/07/14 11:07, Salvatore Orlando wrote:
The patch for bug 1329564 [1] merged about 11 hours ago. From [2]
it seems there has been an improvement on the failure rate, which
seem to have dropped to 25% from over 40%. Still, since the patch
merged there have been 11 failures already in the full job out of
42 jobs 

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:

 Slow review: by limiting the number of blueprints up we hope to focus our
 efforts on fewer concurrent things
 slow code turn around: when a blueprint is given a slot (runway) we will
 first make sure the author/owner is available for fast code turnaround.

 If a blueprint review stalls out (slow code turnaround, stalemate in
 review discussions etc.) we will take the slot and give it to another
 blueprint.


 How is that more efficient than today's do-the-best-we-can approach? It just
 sounds like bureaucracy to me.

 Reading between the lines throughout this thread, it sounds like what we're
 lacking is a reliable method to communicate review prioritization to core
 reviewers.

AIUI, that is precisely what the proposed slots would do -- allow
the PTL (or the drivers team) to reliably communicate review
prioritization to the core review team, in a way that is *not* just
more noise on IRC, and is visible to all contributors.

-Deva

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread John Dickinson

On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote:

 
 On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is
  facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the
  ultimate success or failure of OpenStack.
 
  With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural
  setup. This resulted in new limiting factors on our overall velocity,
  which is frustrating for developers. This resulted in the burnout of key
  firefighting resources. This resulted in tension between people who try
  to get specific work done and people who try to keep a handle on the big
  picture.
 
  It all boils down to an imbalance between strategic and tactical
  contributions. At the beginning of this project, we had a strong inner
  group of people dedicated to fixing all loose ends. Then a lot of
  companies got interested in OpenStack and there was a surge in tactical,
  short-term contributions. We put on a call for more resources to be
  dedicated to strategic contributions like critical bugfixing,
  vulnerability management, QA, infrastructure... and that call was
  answered by a lot of companies that are now key members of the OpenStack
  Foundation, and all was fine again. But OpenStack contributors kept on
  growing, and we grew the narrowly-focused population way faster than the
  cross-project population.
 
 
  At the same time, we kept on adding new projects to incubation and to
  the integrated release, which is great... but the new developers you get
  on board with this are much more likely to be tactical than strategic
  contributors. This also contributed to the imbalance. The penalty for
  that imbalance is twofold: we don't have enough resources available to
  solve old, known OpenStack-wide issues; but we also don't have enough
  resources to identify and fix new issues.
 
  We have several efforts under way, like calling for new strategic
  contributors, driving towards in-project functional testing, making
  solving rare issues a more attractive endeavor, or hiring resources
  directly at the Foundation level to help address those. But there is a
  topic we haven't raised yet: should we concentrate on fixing what is
  currently in the integrated release rather than adding new projects ?
 
 
  TL;DR: Our development model is having growing pains. until we sort out the
  growing pains adding more projects spreads us too thin.
 
 +100
 
  In addition to the issues mentioned above, with the scale of OpenStack 
  today
  we have many major cross project issues to address and no good place to
  discuss them.
 
 We do have the ML, as well as the cross-project meeting every Tuesday
 [1], but we as a project need to do a better job of actually bringing
 up relevant issues here.
 
 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting
 
 
 
  We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
  produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
  reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
  happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
  define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
 
 
 
  I really like this idea, as Michael and others alluded to in above, we are
  attempting to set cycle goals for Kilo in Nova. but I think it is worth
  doing for all of OpenStack. We would like to make a list of key goals 
  before
  the summit so that we can plan our summit sessions around the goals. On a
  really high level one way to look at this is, in Kilo we need to pay down
  our technical debt.
 
  The slots/runway idea is somewhat separate from defining key cycle goals; 
  we
  can be approve blueprints based on key cycle goals without doing slots.  
  But
  with so many concurrent blueprints up for review at any given time, the
  review teams are doing a lot of multitasking and humans are not very good 
  at
  multitasking. Hopefully slots can help address this issue, and hopefully
  allow us to actually merge more blueprints in a given cycle.
 
 I'm not 100% sold on what the slots idea buys us. What I've seen this
 cycle in Neutron is that we have a LOT of BPs proposed. We approve
 them after review. And then we hit one of two issues: Slow review
 cycles, and slow code turnaround issues. I don't think slots would
 help this, and in fact may cause more issues. If we approve a BP and
 give it a slot for which the eventual result is slow review and/or
 code review turnaround, we're right back where we started. Even worse,
 we may have not picked a BP for which the 

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Feature Proposal Freeze date Aug 14

2014-08-12 Thread Lyle, David
It came to my attention today that I've only communicated this in Horizon
team meetings.

Due to the high number of blueprints already targeting Juno-3 and the
resource contention of reviewers, I have set the Horizon Feature Proposal
Deadline at August 14 (August 12 actually, but since I didn't include the
mailing list, adding 2 days). This will hopefully reduce some of the noise
as we approach the J-3 milestone.

Thanks,
David


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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Eoghan Glynn
 
 It seems like this is exactly what the slots give us, though. The core review
 team picks a number of slots indicating how much work they think they can
 actually do (less than the available number of blueprints), and then
 blueprints queue up to get a slot based on priorities and turnaround time
 and other criteria that try to make slot allocation fair. By having the
 slots, not only is the review priority communicated to the review team, it
 is also communicated to anyone watching the project.

One thing I'm not seeing shine through in this discussion of slots is
whether any notion of individual cores, or small subsets of the core
team with aligned interests, can champion blueprints that they have
a particular interest in.

For example it might address some pain-point they've encountered, or
impact on some functional area that they themselves have worked on in
the past, or line up with their thinking on some architectural point.

But for whatever motivation, such small groups of cores currently have
the freedom to self-organize in a fairly emergent way and champion
individual BPs that are important to them, simply by *independently*
giving those BPs review attention.

Whereas under the slots initiative, presumably this power would be
subsumed by the group will, as expressed by the prioritization
applied to the holding pattern feeding the runways?

I'm not saying this is good or bad, just pointing out a change that
we should have our eyes open to.

Cheers,
Eoghan

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-12 Thread Henry Gessau
On 8/12/2014 1:53 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
 On 12/08/14 17:12, Henry Gessau wrote:
 On 8/12/2014 10:27 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
 as per [1], Cisco Nexus ML2 plugin requires a patched version of 
 ncclient from github. I wonder:

 - - whether this information is still current;

 Please see: https://review.openstack.org/112175

 But we need to do backports before updating the wiki.
 
 Thanks for the link!
 

 - - why don't we depend on ncclient thru our requirements.txt
 file.

 Do we want to have requirements on things that are only used by a
 specific vendor plugin? So far it has worked by vendor-specific
 documentation instructing to manually install the requirement, or
 vendor-tailored deployment tools/scripts.

 
 In downstream, it's hard to maintain all plugin dependencies if they
 are not explicitly mentioned in e.g. requirements.txt. Red Hat ships
 those plugins (with no commercial support or testing done on our
 side), and we didn't know that to make the plugin actually useable, we
 need to install that ncclient module until a person from Cisco
 reported the issue to us. We don't usually monitor random wiki pages
 to get an idea what we need to package and depend on. :)
 
 I think we should have every third party module that we directly use
 in requirements.txt. We have code in the tree that imports ncclient
 (btw is it unit tested?), so I think it's enough to make that

The unit tests mock the import of ncclient.

 dependency explicit.
 
 Now, maybe putting the module into requirements.txt is an overkill
 (though I doubt it). In that case, we could be interested in getting
 the info in some other centralized way.

I am not familiar with other ways, but let me know if I can be of any help.

Note: it seems that the Brocade plugin also imports ncclient.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Pendergrass, Eric
Sure, here's the decorated method from v2.py:

class MetersController(rest.RestController):
Works on meters.

@pecan.expose()
def _lookup(self, meter_name, *remainder):
return MeterController(meter_name), remainder

@wsme_pecan.wsexpose([Meter], [Query])
@secure(RBACController.check_permissions)
def get_all(self, q=None):

and here's the decorator called by the secure tag:

class RBACController(object):
global _ENFORCER
if not _ENFORCER:
_ENFORCER = policy.Enforcer()


@classmethod
def check_permissions(cls):
# do some stuff

In check_permissions I'd like to know the class and method with the @secure tag 
that caused check_permissions to be invoked.  In this case, that would be 
MetersController.get_all.

Thanks


 Can you share some code?  What do you mean by, is there a way for the 
 decorator code to know it was called by MetersController.get_all

 On 08/12/14 04:46 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
  Thanks Ryan, but for some reason the controller attribute is None:
 
  (Pdb) from pecan.core import state
  (Pdb) state.__dict__
  {'hooks': [ceilometer.api.hooks.ConfigHook object at 0x31894d0,
  ceilometer.api.hooks.DBHook object at 0x3189650,
  ceilometer.api.hooks.PipelineHook object at 0x39871d0,
  ceilometer.api.hooks.TranslationHook object at 0x3aa5510], 'app':
  pecan.core.Pecan object at 0x2e76390, 'request': Request at
  0x3ed7390 GET http://localhost:8777/v2/meters, 'controller': None,
  'response': Response at 0x3ed74d0 200 OK}
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Ryan Petrello [mailto:ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:34 AM
   To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
   Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's 
   name/class using Pecan secure decorators?
  
   This should give you what you need:
  
   from pecan.core import state
   state.controller
  
   On 08/12/14 04:08 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for access 
control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is wrapped 
from within the decorator.
   
For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an @secure 
decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it was called 
by MetersController.get_all?
   
I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can 
get the endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not as 
elegant.
   
Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this information 
to the decorator?
   
Thanks
Eric Pendergrass
  
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Cisco NXOS is not tested anymore

2014-08-12 Thread Henry Gessau
On 8/12/2014 2:04 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
 On 2014-08-12 16:35:18 + (+), Edgar Magana wrote:
 If this plugin will be deprecated in Juno it means that the code
 will be there for this release, I will expect to have the CI still
 running for until the code is completely removed from the Neutron
 tree.

 Anyway, Infra guys will have the last word here!
 
 It's really not up to the Project Infrastructure Team to decide
 this (we merely provide guidance, assistance and, sometimes,
 arbitration for such matters). It's ultimately the Neutron developer
 community who needs to determine whether they're willing to support
 an untested feature through deprecation or insist on continued
 testing until its full removal can be realized.

The Cisco Nexus sub-plugin is broken because the OVS plugin that is depends on
is broken. The Neutron Project switched from the OVS plugin to ML2 for testing
a long time ago, and the OVS plugin will be removed from the tree in Juno.
There are no plans to fix the OVS plugin, so the Cisco Nexus sub-plugin will
not be fixed either.

There are bugs[1,2] open to remove the deprecated plugins from the tree.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1323729
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1350387


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 9 days until feature proposal freeze

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Pipes

On 08/12/2014 04:13 AM, Michael Still wrote:

Hi,

this is just a friendly reminder that we are now 9 days away from
feature proposal freeze for nova. If you think your blueprint isn't
going to make it in time, then now would be a good time to let me know
so that we can defer it until Kilo. That will free up reviewer time
for other blueprints.

Some people have more than one blueprint still under development...
Perhaps they could defer some of those to Kilo?


I removed 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/allocation-ratio-to-resource-tracker 
from the Juno cycle, and noted reasons why in the whiteboard (ongoing 
discussions around scheduler separation and the scope of the resource 
tracker in regards to claim processing.


Best,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Cisco NXOS is not tested anymore

2014-08-12 Thread Edgar Magana
Henry,

That makes a lot of sense to me.
If the code will be remove in Juno, then there is nothing else to discuss.

Thank you so much for providing detailed information and sorry for
bothering you with this issue.

Edgar

On 8/12/14, 11:49 AM, Henry Gessau ges...@cisco.com wrote:

On 8/12/2014 2:04 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
 On 2014-08-12 16:35:18 + (+), Edgar Magana wrote:
 If this plugin will be deprecated in Juno it means that the code
 will be there for this release, I will expect to have the CI still
 running for until the code is completely removed from the Neutron
 tree.

 Anyway, Infra guys will have the last word here!
 
 It's really not up to the Project Infrastructure Team to decide
 this (we merely provide guidance, assistance and, sometimes,
 arbitration for such matters). It's ultimately the Neutron developer
 community who needs to determine whether they're willing to support
 an untested feature through deprecation or insist on continued
 testing until its full removal can be realized.

The Cisco Nexus sub-plugin is broken because the OVS plugin that is
depends on
is broken. The Neutron Project switched from the OVS plugin to ML2 for
testing
a long time ago, and the OVS plugin will be removed from the tree in Juno.
There are no plans to fix the OVS plugin, so the Cisco Nexus sub-plugin
will
not be fixed either.

There are bugs[1,2] open to remove the deprecated plugins from the tree.

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1323729
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1350387


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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com
wrote:


 On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is
  facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the
  ultimate success or failure of OpenStack.
 
  With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural
  setup. This resulted in new limiting factors on our overall velocity,
  which is frustrating for developers. This resulted in the burnout of
 key
  firefighting resources. This resulted in tension between people who
 try
  to get specific work done and people who try to keep a handle on the
 big
  picture.
 
  It all boils down to an imbalance between strategic and tactical
  contributions. At the beginning of this project, we had a strong inner
  group of people dedicated to fixing all loose ends. Then a lot of
  companies got interested in OpenStack and there was a surge in
 tactical,
  short-term contributions. We put on a call for more resources to be
  dedicated to strategic contributions like critical bugfixing,
  vulnerability management, QA, infrastructure... and that call was
  answered by a lot of companies that are now key members of the
 OpenStack
  Foundation, and all was fine again. But OpenStack contributors kept on
  growing, and we grew the narrowly-focused population way faster than
 the
  cross-project population.
 
 
  At the same time, we kept on adding new projects to incubation and to
  the integrated release, which is great... but the new developers you
 get
  on board with this are much more likely to be tactical than strategic
  contributors. This also contributed to the imbalance. The penalty for
  that imbalance is twofold: we don't have enough resources available to
  solve old, known OpenStack-wide issues; but we also don't have enough
  resources to identify and fix new issues.
 
  We have several efforts under way, like calling for new strategic
  contributors, driving towards in-project functional testing, making
  solving rare issues a more attractive endeavor, or hiring resources
  directly at the Foundation level to help address those. But there is a
  topic we haven't raised yet: should we concentrate on fixing what is
  currently in the integrated release rather than adding new projects ?
 
 
  TL;DR: Our development model is having growing pains. until we sort
 out the
  growing pains adding more projects spreads us too thin.
 
 +100

  In addition to the issues mentioned above, with the scale of OpenStack
 today
  we have many major cross project issues to address and no good place to
  discuss them.
 
 We do have the ML, as well as the cross-project meeting every Tuesday
 [1], but we as a project need to do a better job of actually bringing
 up relevant issues here.

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting

 
 
  We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
  produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
  reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
  happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
  define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
 
 
 
  I really like this idea, as Michael and others alluded to in above, we
 are
  attempting to set cycle goals for Kilo in Nova. but I think it is worth
  doing for all of OpenStack. We would like to make a list of key goals
 before
  the summit so that we can plan our summit sessions around the goals.
 On a
  really high level one way to look at this is, in Kilo we need to pay
 down
  our technical debt.
 
  The slots/runway idea is somewhat separate from defining key cycle
 goals; we
  can be approve blueprints based on key cycle goals without doing
 slots.  But
  with so many concurrent blueprints up for review at any given time, the
  review teams are doing a lot of multitasking and humans are not very
 good at
  multitasking. Hopefully slots can help address this issue, and
 hopefully
  allow us to actually merge more blueprints in a given cycle.
 
 I'm not 100% sold on what the slots idea buys us. What I've seen this
 cycle in Neutron is that we have a LOT of BPs proposed. We approve
 them after review. And then we hit one of two issues: Slow review
 cycles, and slow code turnaround issues. I don't think slots would
 help this, and in fact may cause more issues. If we approve a BP and
 give it a slot for which the eventual result is slow review and/or
 code review turnaround, we're right back where we started. Even worse,
 we may have not picked a BP for which the 

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] [LBaaS] Followup on Service Ports and IP Allocation - IPAM from LBaaS Mid Cycle meeting

2014-08-12 Thread Eichberger, German
Hi Mark,

Going through the notes from our midcycle meeting   (see 
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-lbaas-mid-cycle-hackathon) I noticed your 
name next to the Service Port and IPAM:
Service Ports

* Owner: Mark

* Nova hacks

* Nova port that nova borrows but doesn't destroy when VM is

IP allocation - IPAM

* TBD: Large task: Owner: Mark

* ability to assoc an IP that is not associated with a port/vm

* can we create a faster way of moving IP's? (Susanne)

With all the other LBaaS work we sort of lost track on that but now as we 
started work on planning for Octavia I am wondering if there is any progress on 
those topics.

Thanks a dozen,
German
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-12 Thread Stephen Balukoff
From the perspective of Blue Box:

* Load balancing appliances will often (usually?) live outside the same
subnet as back-end member VMs.
* The network in which the load balancing appliances live will usually have
a default router (gateway)
* We don't anticipate the need for using extra_routes at this time, though
I suspect other operators might need this.
* We also anticipate occasionally needing the load balancing appliances to
have layer-2 connectivity to some back-end member VMs.



On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.com
wrote:

 In the context of Octavia and Neutron LBaaS. Susanne


 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Stephen Balukoff sbaluk...@bluebox.net
 wrote:

 Susanne,

 Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in
 terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project?

 Stephen


 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com
 wrote:

 Hi Susanne,

 While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
 input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
 larger sample size.

 Thanks,
 doug

 On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gang,
 I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
 1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
 Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
 
 
 2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
 ³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
  option.
 3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
 ³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
  ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
 Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
 Regards Susanne
 


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:05:26AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote:
 On 08/11/2014 07:58 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
  On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
  There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I
  prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an environment
  which matches the build system:
 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108714/
  
  Ah, cool.  Devstack is indeed a better place to put the build scripting.
   So, I think we should:
  
  1) Get the above patch working, and then merged.
  
  2) Get an experimental job going to use the above while we work on #3
  
  3) Before the job can move into the check queue and potentially become
  voting, it needs to not rely on downloading the source on every run.
  IIRC, we can have nodepool build an image to use for these jobs that
  includes the bits already installed.
  
  I'll switch my efforts over to helping get the above completed.
  
 
 I still think the devstack patch is good, but after some more thought, I
 think a better long term CI job setup would just be a fedora image with
 the virt-preview repo. 

So, effectively, you're trying to add a minimal Fedora image w/
virt-preview repo (as part of some post-install kickstart script). If
so, where would the image be stored? I'm asking because, previously Sean
Dague mentioned of mirroring issues (which later turned out to be
intermittent network issues with OpenStack infra cloud providers) of
Fedora images, and floated an idea whether an updated image can be
stored on tarballs.openstack.org, like how Trove[1] does. But, OpenStack
infra folks (fungi) raised some valid points on why not do that.

IIUC, if you intend to run tests w/ this CI job with this new image,
there has to be a mechanism in place to ensure the cached copy (on
tarballs.o.o) is updated.

If I misunderstood what you said, please correct me.


[1] http://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/

 I think I'll try that ...

 

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[openstack-dev] [NFV] Meeting cancelled and time for next week.

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Gordon
Hi all,

I am not available to run the meeting tomorrow and was not able to identify 
someone to step in, given this I think it makes sense to cancel for this week. 

For next week I would like to trial the new alternate time we discussed, 1600 
UTC on a Thursday, and assuming there is reasonable attendance alternating 
weekly from there. Are there any objections to this?

As the Feature Proposal Freeze [1] is fast approaching for projects that 
enforce it I will endeavour to track down any of the blueprints listed on the 
wiki that were approved but don't have code submissions associated with them 
yet and highlight this on the mailing list in lieu of a meeting.

Thanks,

Steve

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FeatureProposalFreeze

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[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Agenda for 13 Aug 2014 meeting

2014-08-12 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi folks!

This is what I have for my tentative agenda for tomorrow's Octavia meeting.
Please e-mail me if you want anything else added to this list. (Also, I
will start putting these weekly agendas in the wiki in the near future.)

* Discuss future of Octavia in light of Neutron-incubator project proposal.

* Discuss operator networking requirements (carryover from last week)

* Discuss v0.5 component design proposal:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113458/

* Discuss timeline on moving these meetings to IRC.

As usual, please e-mail me if you'd like information on connecting to the
webex we're presently using for these meetings.

Thanks,
Stephen


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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Cisco NXOS is not tested anymore

2014-08-12 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/12/2014 01:16 PM, Edgar Magana wrote:
 Henry,
 
 That makes a lot of sense to me.
 If the code will be remove in Juno, then there is nothing else to discuss.
 
 Thank you so much for providing detailed information and sorry for
 bothering you with this issue.
 
 Edgar
I don't think it is a bother, I think it is good information to have.
Now we just have to figure out the process for future so we also know
the best path of communication.

Thanks,
Anita.
 
 On 8/12/14, 11:49 AM, Henry Gessau ges...@cisco.com wrote:
 
 On 8/12/2014 2:04 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
 On 2014-08-12 16:35:18 + (+), Edgar Magana wrote:
 If this plugin will be deprecated in Juno it means that the code
 will be there for this release, I will expect to have the CI still
 running for until the code is completely removed from the Neutron
 tree.

 Anyway, Infra guys will have the last word here!

 It's really not up to the Project Infrastructure Team to decide
 this (we merely provide guidance, assistance and, sometimes,
 arbitration for such matters). It's ultimately the Neutron developer
 community who needs to determine whether they're willing to support
 an untested feature through deprecation or insist on continued
 testing until its full removal can be realized.

 The Cisco Nexus sub-plugin is broken because the OVS plugin that is
 depends on
 is broken. The Neutron Project switched from the OVS plugin to ML2 for
 testing
 a long time ago, and the OVS plugin will be removed from the tree in Juno.
 There are no plans to fix the OVS plugin, so the Cisco Nexus sub-plugin
 will
 not be fixed either.

 There are bugs[1,2] open to remove the deprecated plugins from the tree.

 [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1323729
 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1350387


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/12/2014 03:40 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:05:26AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote:
 On 08/11/2014 07:58 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
 On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
 There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I
 prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an environment
 which matches the build system:

   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108714/

 Ah, cool.  Devstack is indeed a better place to put the build scripting.
  So, I think we should:

 1) Get the above patch working, and then merged.

 2) Get an experimental job going to use the above while we work on #3

 3) Before the job can move into the check queue and potentially become
 voting, it needs to not rely on downloading the source on every run.
 IIRC, we can have nodepool build an image to use for these jobs that
 includes the bits already installed.

 I'll switch my efforts over to helping get the above completed.


 I still think the devstack patch is good, but after some more thought, I
 think a better long term CI job setup would just be a fedora image with
 the virt-preview repo. 
 
 So, effectively, you're trying to add a minimal Fedora image w/
 virt-preview repo (as part of some post-install kickstart script). If
 so, where would the image be stored? I'm asking because, previously Sean
 Dague mentioned of mirroring issues (which later turned out to be
 intermittent network issues with OpenStack infra cloud providers) of
 Fedora images, and floated an idea whether an updated image can be
 stored on tarballs.openstack.org, like how Trove[1] does. But, OpenStack
 infra folks (fungi) raised some valid points on why not do that.
 
 IIUC, if you intend to run tests w/ this CI job with this new image,
 there has to be a mechanism in place to ensure the cached copy (on
 tarballs.o.o) is updated.
 
 If I misunderstood what you said, please correct me.

Patches for this here:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113349/
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113350/

The first one is the important part about how the image is created.
nodepool runs some prep scripts against the cloud's distro image and
then snapshots it.  That's the image stored to be used later for testing.

In this case, it enables the virt-preview repo and then calls out to the
regular devstack prep scripts to cache all packages needed for the test
locally on the image.

If there are issues with the reliability of fedorapeople.org, it will
indeed cause problems, but at least it's local to image creation and not
every test run.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dan Smith wrote:
 Looks reasonable to me.
 
 +1

+1

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-12 Thread Sylvain Bauza


Le 12/08/2014 18:54, Nikola Đipanov a écrit :

On 08/12/2014 04:49 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:

(sorry for reposting, missed 2 links...)

Hi Nikola,

Le 12/08/2014 12:21, Nikola Đipanov a écrit :

Hey Nova-istas,

While I was hacking on [1] I was considering how to approach the fact
that we now need to track one more thing (NUMA node utilization) in our
resources. I went with - I'll add it to compute nodes table thinking
it's a fundamental enough property of a compute host that it deserves to
be there, although I was considering  Extensible Resource Tracker at one
point (ERT from now on - see [2]) but looking at the code - it did not
seem to provide anything I desperately needed, so I went with keeping it
simple.

So fast-forward a few days, and I caught myself solving a problem that I
kept thinking ERT should have solved - but apparently hasn't, and I
think it is fundamentally a broken design without it - so I'd really
like to see it re-visited.

The problem can be described by the following lemma (if you take 'lemma'
to mean 'a sentence I came up with just now' :)):


Due to the way scheduling works in Nova (roughly: pick a host based on
stale(ish) data, rely on claims to trigger a re-schedule), _same exact_
information that scheduling service used when making a placement
decision, needs to be available to the compute service when testing the
placement.


This is not the case right now, and the ERT does not propose any way to
solve it - (see how I hacked around needing to be able to get
extra_specs when making claims in [3], without hammering the DB). The
result will be that any resource that we add and needs user supplied
info for scheduling an instance against it, will need a buggy
re-implementation of gathering all the bits from the request that
scheduler sees, to be able to work properly.

Well, ERT does provide a plugin mechanism for testing resources at the
claim level. This is the plugin responsibility to implement a test()
method [2.1] which will be called when test_claim() [2.2]

So, provided this method is implemented, a local host check can be done
based on the host's view of resources.



Yes - the problem is there is no clear API to get all the needed bits to
do so - especially the user supplied one from image and flavors.
On top of that, in current implementation we only pass a hand-wavy
'usage' blob in. This makes anyone wanting to use this in conjunction
with some of the user supplied bits roll their own
'extract_data_from_instance_metadata_flavor_image' or similar which is
horrible and also likely bad for performance.


I see your concern where there is no interface for user-facing resources 
like flavor or image metadata.
I also think indeed that the big 'usage' blob is not a good choice for 
long-term vision.


That said, I don't think as we say in French to throw the bath water... 
ie. the problem is with the RT, not the ERT (apart the mention of 
third-party API that you noted - I'll go to it later below)

This is obviously a bigger concern when we want to allow users to pass
data (through image or flavor) that can affect scheduling, but still a
huge concern IMHO.

And here is where I agree with you : at the moment, ResourceTracker (and
consequently Extensible RT) only provides the view of the resources the
host is knowing (see my point above) and possibly some other resources
are missing.
So, whatever your choice of going with or without ERT, your patch [3]
still deserves it if we want not to lookup DB each time a claim goes.



As I see that there are already BPs proposing to use this IMHO broken
ERT ([4] for example), which will surely add to the proliferation of
code that hacks around these design shortcomings in what is already a
messy, but also crucial (for perf as well as features) bit of Nova code.

Two distinct implementations of that spec (ie. instances and flavors)
have been proposed [2.3] [2.4] so reviews are welcome. If you see the
test() method, it's no-op thing for both plugins. I'm open to comments
because I have the stated problem : how can we define a limit on just a
counter of instances and flavors ?


Will look at these - but none of them seem to hit the issue I am
complaining about, and that is that it will need to consider other
request data for claims, not only data available for on instances.

Also - the fact that you don't implement test() in flavor ones tells me
that the implementation is indeed racy (but it is racy atm as well) and
two requests can indeed race for the same host, and since no claims are
done, both can succeed. This is I believe (at least in case of single
flavor hosts) unlikely to happen in practice, but you get the idea.


Agreed, these 2 patches probably require another iteration, in 
particular how we make sure that it won't be racy. So I need another run 
to think about what to test() for these 2 examples.
Another patch has to be done for aggregates, but it's still WIP so not 
mentioned here.


Anyway, as discussed during today's 

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hey

 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)

 From the version_cap saga here:

   https://review.openstack.org/110754

 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.

 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:

   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.


Thanks for the write up, Mark.

When I first read the thread I thought it'd be about the case where a core
takes a vacation or is unreachable _after_ marking a review -2. Can this
case be considered in this policy as well (or is it already and I don't
know it?)

Thanks,
Anne



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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know
what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on
an issue?

Michael

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hey

 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)

 From the version_cap saga here:

   https://review.openstack.org/110754

 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.

 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:

   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 15:34 -0700, Clark Boylan wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
  On 2014-07-30 13:21:10 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote:
   While forcing people to move to a newer version of libvirt is
   doable on most environments, do we want to do that now? What is
   the benefit of doing so?
  [...]
  
  The only dog I have in this fight is that using the split-out
  libvirt-python on PyPI means we finally get to run Nova unit tests
  in virtualenvs which aren't built with system-site-packages enabled.
  It's been a long-running headache which I'd like to see eradicated
  everywhere we can. I understand though if we have to go about it
  more slowly, I'm just excited to see it finally within our grasp.
  -- 
  Jeremy Stanley
 
 We aren't quite forcing people to move to newer versions. Only those
 installing nova test-requirements need newer libvirt.

Yeah, I'm a bit confused about the problem here. Is it that people want
to satisfy test-requirements through packages rather than using a
virtualenv?

(i.e. if people just use virtualenvs for unit tests, there's no problem
right?)

If so, is it possible/easy to create new, alternate packages of the
libvirt python bindings (from PyPI) on their own separately from the
libvirt.so and libvirtd packages?

Mark.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com
wrote:


 On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org
  wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is
  facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the
  ultimate success or failure of OpenStack.
 
  With this cycle we hit new limits in our processes, tools and cultural
  setup. This resulted in new limiting factors on our overall velocity,
  which is frustrating for developers. This resulted in the burnout of
 key
  firefighting resources. This resulted in tension between people who
 try
  to get specific work done and people who try to keep a handle on the
 big
  picture.
 
  It all boils down to an imbalance between strategic and tactical
  contributions. At the beginning of this project, we had a strong inner
  group of people dedicated to fixing all loose ends. Then a lot of
  companies got interested in OpenStack and there was a surge in
 tactical,
  short-term contributions. We put on a call for more resources to be
  dedicated to strategic contributions like critical bugfixing,
  vulnerability management, QA, infrastructure... and that call was
  answered by a lot of companies that are now key members of the
 OpenStack
  Foundation, and all was fine again. But OpenStack contributors kept on
  growing, and we grew the narrowly-focused population way faster than
 the
  cross-project population.
 
 
  At the same time, we kept on adding new projects to incubation and to
  the integrated release, which is great... but the new developers you
 get
  on board with this are much more likely to be tactical than strategic
  contributors. This also contributed to the imbalance. The penalty for
  that imbalance is twofold: we don't have enough resources available to
  solve old, known OpenStack-wide issues; but we also don't have enough
  resources to identify and fix new issues.
 
  We have several efforts under way, like calling for new strategic
  contributors, driving towards in-project functional testing, making
  solving rare issues a more attractive endeavor, or hiring resources
  directly at the Foundation level to help address those. But there is a
  topic we haven't raised yet: should we concentrate on fixing what is
  currently in the integrated release rather than adding new projects ?
 
 
  TL;DR: Our development model is having growing pains. until we sort
 out the
  growing pains adding more projects spreads us too thin.
 
 +100

  In addition to the issues mentioned above, with the scale of OpenStack
 today
  we have many major cross project issues to address and no good place to
  discuss them.
 
 We do have the ML, as well as the cross-project meeting every Tuesday
 [1], but we as a project need to do a better job of actually bringing
 up relevant issues here.

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting

 
 
  We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we
  produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core
  reviewers) being overwhelmed just trying to stay afloat of what's
  happening. For such projects, is it time for a pause ? Is it time to
  define key cycle goals and defer everything else ?
 
 
 
  I really like this idea, as Michael and others alluded to in above, we
 are
  attempting to set cycle goals for Kilo in Nova. but I think it is worth
  doing for all of OpenStack. We would like to make a list of key goals
 before
  the summit so that we can plan our summit sessions around the goals.
 On a
  really high level one way to look at this is, in Kilo we need to pay
 down
  our technical debt.
 
  The slots/runway idea is somewhat separate from defining key cycle
 goals; we
  can be approve blueprints based on key cycle goals without doing
 slots.  But
  with so many concurrent blueprints up for review at any given time, the
  review teams are doing a lot of multitasking and humans are not very
 good at
  multitasking. Hopefully slots can help address this issue, and
 hopefully
  allow us to actually merge more blueprints in a given cycle.
 
 I'm not 100% sold on what the slots idea buys us. What I've seen this
 cycle in Neutron is that we have a LOT of BPs proposed. We approve
 them after review. And then we hit one of two issues: Slow review
 cycles, and slow code turnaround issues. I don't think slots would
 help this, and in fact may cause more issues. If we approve a BP and
 give it a slot for which the eventual result is slow review and/or
 code review turnaround, we're right back where we started. Even worse,
 we may have not picked a BP for which the 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Jay Pipes for nova-core

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-07-30 at 14:02 -0700, Michael Still wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I would like to nominate Jay Pipes for the nova-core team.
 
 Jay has been involved with nova for a long time now.  He's previously
 been a nova core, as well as a glance core (and PTL). He's been around
 so long that there are probably other types of core status I have
 missed.
 
 Please respond with +1s or any concerns.

Was away, but +1 for the record. Would have been happy to see this some
time ago.

Mark.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] SoftwareDeployment resource is always in progress

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Baker
On 11/08/14 20:42, david ferahi wrote:
 Hello,

 I 'm trying to create a simple stack with heat (Icehouse release).
 The template contains SoftwareConfig, SoftwareDeployment and a single
 server resources.

 The problem is that the SoftwareDeployment resource is always in
 progress !

So first I'm going to assume you're using an image that you have created
with diskimage-builder which includes the heat-config-script element:
https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements

When I a diagnosing deployments which don't signal back I do the following:
- ssh into the server and sudo to root
- stop the os-collect-config service:
  systemctl stop os-collect-config
- run os-collect-config manually and check for errors:
  os-collect-config --one-time --debug

 After waiting for more than an hour the stack deployment failed and I
 got this error:

  TRACE heat.engine.resource HTTPUnauthorized: ERROR: Authentication
 failed. Please try again with option --include-password or export
 HEAT_INCLUDE_PASSWORD=1
 TRACE heat.engine.resource Authentication required

This looks like a different issue, you should find out what is happening
to your server configuration first.


 When I checked the log file (/var/log/heat/heat-engine.log), it shows
  the following message(every second):
 2014-08-10 19:41:09.622 2391 INFO urllib3.connectionpool [-] Starting
 new HTTP connection (1): 192.168.122.10
 2014-08-10 19:41:10.648 2391 INFO urllib3.connectionpool [-] Starting
 new HTTP connection (1): 192.168.122.10
 2014-08-10 19:41:11.671 2391 INFO urllib3.connectionpool [-] Starting
 new HTTP connection (1): 192.168.122.10
 2014-08-10 19:41:12.690 2391 INFO urllib3.connectionpool [-] Starting
 new HTTP connection (1): 192.168.122.10

 Here the template I am using :
 https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/wordpress/WordPress_software-config_1-instance.yaml

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Update on third party CI in Neutron

2014-08-12 Thread Hemanth Ravi
Kyle,

One Convergence third-party CI is failing due to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1353309.

Let me know if we should turn off the CI logs until this is fixed or if we
need to fix anything on the CI end. I think one other third-party CI
(Mellanox) is failing due to the same issue.

Regards,
-hemanth


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Hemanth Ravi hemanthrav...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Kyle,
 
  One Convergence CI has been fixed (setup issue) and is running without
 the
  failures for ~10 days now. Updated the etherpad.
 
 Thanks for the update Hemanth, much appreciated!

 Kyle

  Thanks,
  -hemanth
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Fawad Khaliq fa...@plumgrid.com
 wrote:
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Kyle Mestery 
 mest...@noironetworks.com
  wrote:
 
  PLUMgrid
 
  Not saving enough logs
 
  All Jenkins slaves were just updated to upload all required logs.
 PLUMgrid
  CI should be good now.
 
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Kevin Benton
Should subsequent patches be reverted as well that depended on the change
in question?


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hey

 (Terrible name for a policy, I know)

 From the version_cap saga here:

   https://review.openstack.org/110754

 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations
 like this.

 Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the
 procedure to be:

   https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-retrospective-veto-revert-policy

 If it sounds reasonably sane, I can propose its addition to the
 Development policies doc.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Update on third party CI in Neutron

2014-08-12 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/12/2014 03:23 PM, Hemanth Ravi wrote:
 Kyle,
 
 One Convergence third-party CI is failing due to
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1353309.
 
 Let me know if we should turn off the CI logs until this is fixed or if we
 need to fix anything on the CI end. I think one other third-party CI
 (Mellanox) is failing due to the same issue.
 
 Regards,
 -hemanth
Are you One Convergence CI, hemanth?

Sorry I don't know who is admin'ing this account.

Thanks,
Anita.
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Hemanth Ravi hemanthrav...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Kyle,

 One Convergence CI has been fixed (setup issue) and is running without
 the
 failures for ~10 days now. Updated the etherpad.

 Thanks for the update Hemanth, much appreciated!

 Kyle

 Thanks,
 -hemanth


 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Fawad Khaliq fa...@plumgrid.com
 wrote:


 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Kyle Mestery 
 mest...@noironetworks.com
 wrote:

 PLUMgrid

 Not saving enough logs

 All Jenkins slaves were just updated to upload all required logs.
 PLUMgrid
 CI should be good now.


 Thanks,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Docker][HEAT] Cloud-init and docker container

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Lau
Thanks Eric for the confirmation ;-)


2014-08-12 23:30 GMT+08:00 Eric Windisch ewindi...@docker.com:




 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:53 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com wrote:

 I did not have the environment set up now, but by reviewing code, I think
 that the logic should be as following:
 1) When using nova docker driver, we can use cloud-init or/and CMD in
 docker images to run post install scripts.
 myapp:
 Type: OS::Nova::Server
 Properties:
 flavor: m1.small
 image: my-app:latest   docker image
 user-data:  

 2) When using heat docker driver, we can only use CMD in docker image or
 heat template to run post install scripts.
 wordpress:
 type: DockerInc::Docker::Container
 depends_on: [database]
 properties:
   image: wordpress
   links:
 db: mysql
   port_bindings:
 80/tcp: [{HostPort: 80}]
   docker_endpoint:
 str_replace:
   template: http://host:2345/
   params:
 host: {get_attr: [docker_host, networks, private, 0]}
 cmd: /bin/bash 



 I can confirm this is correct for both use-cases. Currently, using Nova,
 one may only specify the CMD in the image itself, or as glance metadata.
 The cloud metadata service should be assessable and usable from Docker.

 The Heat plugin allow settings the CMD as a resource property. The
 user-data is only passed to the instance that runs Docker, not the
 containers. Configuring the CMD and/or environment variables for the
 container is the correct approach.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Ryan Petrello
Yep, you're right, this doesn't seem to work.  The issue is that security is
enforced at routing time (while the controller is still actually being
discovered).  In order to do this sort of thing with the `check_permissions`,
we'd probably need to add a feature to pecan.

On 08/12/14 06:38 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
 Sure, here's the decorated method from v2.py:
 
 class MetersController(rest.RestController):
 Works on meters.
 
 @pecan.expose()
 def _lookup(self, meter_name, *remainder):
 return MeterController(meter_name), remainder
 
 @wsme_pecan.wsexpose([Meter], [Query])
 @secure(RBACController.check_permissions)
 def get_all(self, q=None):
 
 and here's the decorator called by the secure tag:
 
 class RBACController(object):
 global _ENFORCER
 if not _ENFORCER:
 _ENFORCER = policy.Enforcer()
 
 
 @classmethod
 def check_permissions(cls):
 # do some stuff
 
 In check_permissions I'd like to know the class and method with the @secure 
 tag that caused check_permissions to be invoked.  In this case, that would be 
 MetersController.get_all.
 
 Thanks
 
 
  Can you share some code?  What do you mean by, is there a way for the 
  decorator code to know it was called by MetersController.get_all
 
  On 08/12/14 04:46 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
   Thanks Ryan, but for some reason the controller attribute is None:
  
   (Pdb) from pecan.core import state
   (Pdb) state.__dict__
   {'hooks': [ceilometer.api.hooks.ConfigHook object at 0x31894d0,
   ceilometer.api.hooks.DBHook object at 0x3189650,
   ceilometer.api.hooks.PipelineHook object at 0x39871d0,
   ceilometer.api.hooks.TranslationHook object at 0x3aa5510], 'app':
   pecan.core.Pecan object at 0x2e76390, 'request': Request at
   0x3ed7390 GET http://localhost:8777/v2/meters, 'controller': None,
   'response': Response at 0x3ed74d0 200 OK}
  
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Petrello [mailto:ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:34 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's 
name/class using Pecan secure decorators?
   
This should give you what you need:
   
from pecan.core import state
state.controller
   
On 08/12/14 04:08 PM, Pendergrass, Eric wrote:
 Hi, I'm trying to use the built in secure decorator in Pecan for 
 access control, and I'ld like to get the name of the method that is 
 wrapped from within the decorator.

 For instance, if I'm wrapping MetersController.get_all with an 
 @secure decorator, is there a way for the decorator code to know it 
 was called by MetersController.get_all?

 I don't see any global objects that provide this information.  I can 
 get the endpoint, v2/meters, with pecan.request.path, but that's not 
 as elegant.

 Is there a way to derive the caller or otherwise pass this 
 information to the decorator?

 Thanks
 Eric Pendergrass
   
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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] lists and merges

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Collins
Just ran into a merge conflict with
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105878/ which looks like this:

- name: nova_osapi
  port: 8774
  net_binds: *public_binds
- name: nova_metadata
  port: 8775
  net_binds: *public_binds
- name: ceilometer
  port: 8777
  net_binds: *public_binds
- name: swift_proxy_server
  port: 8080
  net_binds: *public_binds
 HEAD
- name: rabbitmq
  port: 5672
  options:
- timeout client 0
- timeout server 0
===
- name: mysql
  port: 3306
  extra_server_params:
- backup
 Change overcloud to use VIP for MySQL

I'd like to propose that we make it a standard - possibly lint on it,
certainly fixup things when we see its wrong - to alpha-sort such
structures: that avoids the textual-merge failure mode of 'append to
the end'.

-Rob

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[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Ryu plugin deprecation

2014-08-12 Thread YAMAMOTO Takashi
hi,

As announced in the last neutron meeting [1], the Ryu plugin is
being deprecated.  Juno is the last release to support Ryu plugin.
The Ryu team will be focusing on the ofagent going forward.

btw, i'll be mostly offline from Aug 16 to Aug 31.
sorry for inconvenience.

[1] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-11-21.00.html

YAMAMOTO Takashi

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