Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-22 Thread Nathanael Burton
Thanks Dolph!

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dearest stackers and [key]stoners,

 With the PTL candidacies officially open for Kilo, I'm going to take the
 opportunity to announce that I won't be running again for the position.

 I thoroughly enjoyed my time as PTL during Havana, Icehouse and Juno.
 There was a perceived increase in stability [citation needed], which was
 one of my foremost goals. We primarily achieved that by improving the
 communication between developers which allowed developers to share their
 intent early and often (by way of API designs and specs). As a result, we
 had a lot more collaboration and a great working knowledge in the community
 when it came time for bug fixes. I also think we raised the bar for user
 experience, especially by way of reasonable defaults, strong documentation,
 and effective error messages. I'm consistently told that we have the best
 out-of-the-box experience of any OpenStack service. Well done!

 I'll still be involved in OpenStack, and I'm super confident in our
 incredibly strong core team of reviewers on Keystone. I thoroughly enjoy
 helping other developers be as productive as possible, and intend to
 continue doing exactly that.

 Keep hacking responsibly,

 -Dolph

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-05 Thread Nathanael Burton
Daniel,

Thanks for the well thought out and thorough proposal to help Nova.

As an OpenStack operator/developer since Cactus time, it has definitely
gotten harder and harder to get fixes in Nova for small bugs that we find
running at scale with production systems. This forces us to maintain more
and more custom patches in-house (or for longer periods of time).  The huge
amount of time necessary to shepherd patches through review discourages
additional devs from contributing patches because of the amount of time
investment required.

I believe whatever we can do to improve the ability to fix technical debt
within Nova and both keep and grow the non-core contributors of Nova would
be greatly beneficial.

Thanks!

Nate
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Re: [openstack-dev] bug/129135

2014-03-31 Thread Nathanael Burton
Also, how does this work for RHEL-based distros where they tend to backport
new kernel features?  For instance vxlan support was added in the kernel
for RHEL6.5 which is 2.6.32-based...  That changeset looks like it breaks
Neutron for ovs + vxlan on RHEL distros.

Nate


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 1:07 PM, sowmini.varad...@hp.com wrote:


 openstack-dev,

 A question about the fix from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82931

 After this fix, the neutron code now explicitly checks for kernel
 version 3.13- was this deliberate? (I was using an older 3.11 version
 before, and did not seem to have any issues before this change).

 Is there a specific kernel patch that ovs-vxlan is dependant on?

 Thanks
 Sowmini

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] RFC - using Gerrit for Nova Blueprint review approval

2014-03-07 Thread Nathanael Burton
On Mar 6, 2014 1:11 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote:

 One of the issues that the Nova team has definitely hit is Blueprint
 overload. At some point there were over 150 blueprints. Many of them
 were a single sentence.

 The results of this have been that design review today is typically not
 happening on Blueprint approval, but is instead happening once the code
 shows up in the code review. So -1s and -2s on code review are a mix of
 design and code review. A big part of which is that design was never in
 any way sufficiently reviewed before the code started.

 In today's Nova meeting a new thought occurred. We already have Gerrit
 which is good for reviewing things. It gives you detailed commenting
 abilities, voting, and history. Instead of attempting (and usually
 failing) on doing blueprint review in launchpad (or launchpad + an
 etherpad, or launchpad + a wiki page) we could do something like follows:

 1. create bad blueprint
 2. create gerrit review with detailed proposal on the blueprint
 3. iterate in gerrit working towards blueprint approval
 4. once approved copy back the approved text into the blueprint (which
 should now be sufficiently detailed)

 Basically blueprints would get design review, and we'd be pretty sure we
 liked the approach before the blueprint is approved. This would
 hopefully reduce the late design review in the code reviews that's
 happening a lot now.

 There are plenty of niggly details that would be need to be worked out

  * what's the basic text / template format of the design to be reviewed
 (probably want a base template for folks to just keep things consistent).
  * is this happening in the nova tree (somewhere in docs/ - NEP (Nova
 Enhancement Proposals), or is it happening in a separate gerrit tree.
  * are there timelines for blueprint approval in a cycle? after which
 point, we don't review any new items.

 Anyway, plenty of details to be sorted. However we should figure out if
 the big idea has support before we sort out the details on this one.

 Launchpad blueprints will still be used for tracking once things are
 approved, but this will give us a standard way to iterate on that
 content and get to agreement on approach.

 -Sean

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I'm very much in favor of this idea. One of the topics we discussed at the
OpenStack Operator day this week was just this problem. The lack of
alerts/notification of new blueprint creation and the lack of insight into
design architecture, feedback, and approval of them. There are many cases
where Operators would like to provide feedback to the design process of new
features early on to ensure upgrade compatibility, scale, security, HA, and
other issues of concern to Operators.  This would be a great way to get
them more involved in the process.

Nate
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