Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics
I'm OK with essentially skipping the Wednesday video meetings until we're at a point that we're ready to concentrate on Octavia as a project. In previous video meetings there was a general sentiment that more could be accomplished (and faster) using video communications, while avoiding a lot of misunderstandings that crop up when people use text as a sole means of communication. (And there's science to back up this claim: http://www.nonverbalgroup.com/2011/08/how-much-of-communication-is-really-nonverbal/ http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beyond-words/201109/is-nonverbal-communication-numbers-game ) Having said this, even if someone is recording all the video feeds that go into a video conference, this is difficult to document in any useful way for posterity or even for people who aren't able to make it to the discussion. When the Octavia project kicks into high gear once the Neutron LBaaS stuff is in a good state for Juno, we'll probably start with the high-bandwidth video conferences among those interested in contributing to the project and probably move to IRC or some other more document-able solution once the initial groundwork for the project is laid and high-bandwidth communication isn't as vital. Stephen On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Samuel Bercovici samu...@radware.com wrote: I prefer IRC only. As I am located in Israel and so are other Radware people, it is easier for us to use IRC which is also more available from more devices and locations. OpenStack has chosen IRC as a way to allow different people from different places and different speaking capabilities to work together and this has proven fine till now. -Sam. *From:* Brandon Logan [mailto:brandon.lo...@rackspace.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:44 PM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics My personal opinion is I prefer the IRC meetings right now. I, personally, don't get any more value out of a video chat than I would with an IRC meeting. However, I know others do get more out of it, and that includes people on my team at Rackspace. Basically, what I am saying is I'd be fine with only doing the IRC meeting, at least for now. Once more focus is put on Octavia, then it would need its own meeting. Thanks, Brandon -- *From:* Doug Wiegley [do...@a10networks.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:39 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive? Having a pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC meetings are having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early. The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants to use it for, by all means go for it. But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting is something that doesn’t sound right to me. Thanks, doug *From: *Trevor Vardeman trevor.varde...@rackspace.com *Reply-To: *OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org *Date: *Wednesday, July 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM *To: *OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [ openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org *Subject: *[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics Hello all! Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only Octavia discussions. One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on Thursday morning. I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good use of that time? -Trevor ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Stephen Balukoff Blue Box Group, LLC (800)613-4305 x807 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics
Hello all! Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only Octavia discussions. One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on Thursday morning. I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good use of that time? -Trevor ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics
Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive? Having a pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC meetings are having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early. The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants to use it for, by all means go for it. But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting is something that doesn’t sound right to me. Thanks, doug From: Trevor Vardeman trevor.varde...@rackspace.commailto:trevor.varde...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics Hello all! Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only Octavia discussions. One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on Thursday morning. I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good use of that time? -Trevor ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics
My personal opinion is I prefer the IRC meetings right now. I, personally, don't get any more value out of a video chat than I would with an IRC meeting. However, I know others do get more out of it, and that includes people on my team at Rackspace. Basically, what I am saying is I'd be fine with only doing the IRC meeting, at least for now. Once more focus is put on Octavia, then it would need its own meeting. Thanks, Brandon From: Doug Wiegley [do...@a10networks.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:39 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive? Having a pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC meetings are having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early. The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants to use it for, by all means go for it. But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting is something that doesn’t sound right to me. Thanks, doug From: Trevor Vardeman trevor.varde...@rackspace.commailto:trevor.varde...@rackspace.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org] openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics Hello all! Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only Octavia discussions. One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on Thursday morning. I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good use of that time? -Trevor ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev