Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Project Idea: IDS integration.

2015-01-19 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Hi Mario,

   Salvatore and Kevin perfectly expressed what I think.

   I’d follow his advice, and look on how the advanced services [1] [2] 
integrate with neutron,
and build a POC. If the POC looks good it could be a good start point to build 
community
around and go on with the development.

[1] https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas
[2] https://github.com/openstack/neutron-fwaas


Miguel Ángel Ajo


On Sunday, 18 de January de 2015 at 13:42, Salvatore Orlando wrote:

 Hello Mario,
  
 IDS surely is an interesting topic for OpenStack integration. I think there 
 might be users out there which could be interested in having this capability 
 in OpenStack networks.
 As Kevin said, we are moving towards a model where it becomes easier for 
 developers to add such capabilities in the form of service plugins - you 
 should be able to develop everything you need in a separate repository and 
 still integrate it with Neutron.
  
 According to what you wrote you have just a bit more than 100 hours to spend 
 on this project. What can be achieved in this timeframe really depends on 
 one's skills, but I believe it could be enough to provide some sort of 
 Proof-of-Concept. However, this time won't be enough at all if you also aim 
 to seek feedback on your proposal, build a consensus and a developer 
 community around it. Unsurprisingly these aspects, albeit not technically 
 challenging, take an awful lot more time than coding!
  
 Therefore the only advice I have here is that you should focus on achieving 
 your real goal, which is graduate with the highest possible marks! Then, if 
 from your thesis there will be something to gain for the OpenStack community, 
 that would be awesome. With a PoC implementation and perhaps some time on 
 your hands, you can then be able to work with the community to transform your 
 masters' project into an OpenStack project and avoid it becomes a bitrotting 
 shelved piece of code.
  
 Salvatore
  
 On 18 January 2015 at 10:45, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com 
 (mailto:blak...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Hi Mario,
   
  There is currently a large backlog of network-related features that many 
  people want to develop for Neutron. The model of adding them all to the 
  main neutron codebase has failed to keep up. Due to this, all of the 
  advanced services (LBaaS, FWaaS, etc) are being separated into their own 
  repositories. The main Neutron repo will only be for establishing L2/L3 
  connectivity and providing a framework for other networking services to 
  build on. You can read more about it in the advanced services split 
  blueprint.[1]
   
  Based on what you've described, it sounds like you would be developing an 
  IDS service plugin with a driver/plugin framework for different vendors. 
  For an initial proof of concept, you could do it in github to get started 
  quickly or you can also request a new stackforge repo for it. The benefit 
  of stackforge is that you get the OpenStack testing infrastructure and 
  integration with its gerrit system so other OpenStack developers don't have 
  to switch code review workflows to contribute.
   
  To gauge interest, I would try emailing the OpenStack users list. It 
  doesn't matter if developers are interested if nobody ever wants to 
  actually try it out.  
   
  1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/services-split
   
  Cheers,
  Kevin Benton
   
   
  On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Mario Tejedor González 
  m.tejedor-gonza...@mycit.ie (mailto:m.tejedor-gonza...@mycit.ie) wrote:
   Hello, Neutron developers.

   My name is Mario and I am a Masters student in Networking and Security.

   I am considering the possibility of integrating IDS technology to Neutron 
   as part of my Masters project.
   As there are many flavors of open ID[P]S out there and those might follow 
   different philosophies, my approach would be developing a Neutron plugin 
   that might cover IDS integration as a service and also a driver (or more, 
   depending on time constraints) to cover the specifics of an IDS. 
   Following the nature of Neutron and OpenStack projects these drivers 
   would be developed for Free and Open Software IDSs and the plugin would 
   be as vendor-agnostic as possible. In order to achieve that the plugin 
   would have to deal with the need for logging and alerting.

   The time window I have for the development of this project goes from 
   February to the end of June and I would be able to allocate around 5h a 
   week to it.

   Now, I would like to know your opinion on this idea, given that you know 
   the project inside out and you are the ones making it happen day after 
   day.
   Do you think there is usefulness on bringing that functionality inside 
   the Neutron project (as a plugin)? I'd prefer do something that 
   contributes to it rather than a one-shot piece of software that will be 
   stored on a shelf.  

   I'd like to know if you think that what I am proposing is 

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Project Idea: IDS integration.

2015-01-16 Thread Mario Tejedor González
Hello, Neutron developers.

My name is Mario and I am a Masters student in Networking and Security.

I am considering the possibility of integrating IDS technology to Neutron
as part of my Masters project.
As there are many flavors of open ID[P]S out there and those might follow
different philosophies, my approach would be developing a Neutron plugin
that might cover IDS integration as a service and also a driver (or more,
depending on time constraints) to cover the specifics of an IDS. Following
the nature of Neutron and OpenStack projects these drivers would be
developed for Free and Open Software IDSs and the plugin would be as
vendor-agnostic as possible. In order to achieve that the plugin would have
to deal with the need for logging and alerting.

The time window I have for the development of this project goes from
February to the end of June and I would be able to allocate around 5h a
week to it.

Now, I would like to know your opinion on this idea, given that you know
the project inside out and you are the ones making it happen day after day.
Do you think there is usefulness on bringing that functionality inside the
Neutron project (as a plugin)? I'd prefer do something that contributes to
it rather than a one-shot piece of software that will be stored on a shelf.

I'd like to know if you think that what I am proposing is possible in terms
of time and features or if it seems to be just the delusion of an ignorant.
Do you think the component should also have the capability to change
security-related policies, like load-balancing and firewall rules as to
react to identified threats?

I would appreciate any insight you could give me about this idea, or any
other I could help with instead.

Thank you for your attention,

Mario
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