Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-docs] Networking guide team disintegration

2015-10-03 Thread Nick Chase 

Sean, you're absolutely right; the Neutron team really needs to help us out.

Edgar, thank you so much for taking this on.  You're right, I'm not 
going away, I just don't have the strength for a sustained effort right 
now.  That said, if you have any isolated incidents where I can help, 
please be sure to let me know!


  Nick

On 10/3/2015 6:34 PM, Edgar Magana wrote:

I volunteer to lead this effort. From the very beginning was an idea between 
Nick and myself and I do have the bandwidth to work on this guide.

There are still a lot of work to do and I will move the meetings to IRC and 
also to formalize better the team by following all the Foundation policies, 
guidelines and rules.

Nick,

Thank you so much for all the work invested in this guide. We have achieved a 
great document and we will miss your input. I am pretty sure you are not going 
to disappear for sure, at least I will not let you to do that.

I am also in PTO this week but I am back in business this Monday Oct 5th.

Kind Regards,

Edgar



On Oct 3, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Sean Collins  wrote:

This needs to be brought to the attention of the new PTL for Neutron. The 
original team that released the networking guide cannot be expected to carry 
this work forward in perpetuity.



On October 2, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Lana Brindley  
wrote:

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I do strongly believe that the Networking Guide needs to be a speciality team 
all of its own, and not part of a larger team. It's an important part of our 
documentation suite.

The leader of the team doesn't necessarily need to be doing the lion's share of 
the work (in fact, in many cases, it's better if you aren't), and you don't 
need to be a core contributor. You do need to be able to commit to running 
meetings once a week or every two weeks, and keeping an eye on reviews.

Of course, I am here to support anyone who chooses to take this on, as well.

Lana


On 03/10/15 04:40, Nick Chase wrote:
I'm actually serious on abdicating here; I'm catching up after being good and 
sick (and theoretically I'm still on sick leave) so it would probably be better 
if I stepped aside.

Who wants it?

  Nick


On 10/2/2015 12:06 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:

On 10/02/2015 11:53 AM, Nick Chase wrote:
Agreed.

  Nick

Having meetings on irc in order to allow new contributors to read some
archives to get up to speed is one of the reasons we encourage projects
to have meetings on irc.

Now we need folks willing to read archives and attend meetings, that is
true, but irc logs can serve as a doorway if we do have any new
contributors who are interested.

Can I suggest networking guide team meetings move to irc?

Thank you, I want to help this group continue and to grow. The work you
do is very important.

Thanks,
Anita.


On 10/2/2015 11:52 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
I hope your surgery went well. However, the problems began long before
9/9.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Nick Chase mailto:nch...@mirantis.com>> wrote:

 I had major surgery on 9/9 and have been on sick leave, I take
 responsibility for falling down on the job there.

 I hereby abdicate if someone else feels they can take it.

 Thanks...

 ---


 On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
 I find it extremely unfortunate that the networking guide team
 disintegrated after the initial release of the guide for Kilo. No
 one attends the meetings and no one outside of a couple of people
 make any significant contributions. Furthermore, the guide
 receives little attention from neutron developers who are key to
 keeping the content fresh.

 I suggest we either disband the team or find new leadership for it.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-docs] Networking guide team disintegration

2015-10-03 Thread Edgar Magana 
I volunteer to lead this effort. From the very beginning was an idea between 
Nick and myself and I do have the bandwidth to work on this guide. 

There are still a lot of work to do and I will move the meetings to IRC and 
also to formalize better the team by following all the Foundation policies, 
guidelines and rules. 

Nick,

Thank you so much for all the work invested in this guide. We have achieved a 
great document and we will miss your input. I am pretty sure you are not going 
to disappear for sure, at least I will not let you to do that. 

I am also in PTO this week but I am back in business this Monday Oct 5th. 

Kind Regards,

Edgar


> On Oct 3, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Sean Collins  wrote:
> 
> This needs to be brought to the attention of the new PTL for Neutron. The 
> original team that released the networking guide cannot be expected to carry 
> this work forward in perpetuity.
> 
> 
> 
> On October 2, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Lana Brindley  
> wrote:
> 
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> 
> I do strongly believe that the Networking Guide needs to be a speciality team 
> all of its own, and not part of a larger team. It's an important part of our 
> documentation suite.
> 
> The leader of the team doesn't necessarily need to be doing the lion's share 
> of the work (in fact, in many cases, it's better if you aren't), and you 
> don't need to be a core contributor. You do need to be able to commit to 
> running meetings once a week or every two weeks, and keeping an eye on 
> reviews.
> 
> Of course, I am here to support anyone who chooses to take this on, as well.
> 
> Lana
> 
>> On 03/10/15 04:40, Nick Chase wrote:
>> I'm actually serious on abdicating here; I'm catching up after being good 
>> and sick (and theoretically I'm still on sick leave) so it would probably be 
>> better if I stepped aside.
>> 
>> Who wants it?
>> 
>>   Nick
>> 
>>> On 10/2/2015 12:06 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
 On 10/02/2015 11:53 AM, Nick Chase wrote:
 Agreed.
 
   Nick
>>> Having meetings on irc in order to allow new contributors to read some
>>> archives to get up to speed is one of the reasons we encourage projects
>>> to have meetings on irc.
>>> 
>>> Now we need folks willing to read archives and attend meetings, that is
>>> true, but irc logs can serve as a doorway if we do have any new
>>> contributors who are interested.
>>> 
>>> Can I suggest networking guide team meetings move to irc?
>>> 
>>> Thank you, I want to help this group continue and to grow. The work you
>>> do is very important.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anita.
>>> 
> On 10/2/2015 11:52 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
> I hope your surgery went well. However, the problems began long before
> 9/9.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Nick Chase  > wrote:
> 
> I had major surgery on 9/9 and have been on sick leave, I take
> responsibility for falling down on the job there.
> 
> I hereby abdicate if someone else feels they can take it.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> ---
> 
>> On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
>> I find it extremely unfortunate that the networking guide team
>> disintegrated after the initial release of the guide for Kilo. No
>> one attends the meetings and no one outside of a couple of people
>> make any significant contributions. Furthermore, the guide
>> receives little attention from neutron developers who are key to
>> keeping the content fresh.
>> 
>> I suggest we either disband the team or find new leadership for it.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-docs] Networking guide team disintegration

2015-10-03 Thread Sean Collins 
This needs to be brought to the attention of the new PTL for Neutron. The 
original team that released the networking guide cannot be expected to carry 
this work forward in perpetuity.



On October 2, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Lana Brindley  
wrote:

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I do strongly believe that the Networking Guide needs to be a speciality team 
all of its own, and not part of a larger team. It's an important part of our 
documentation suite.

The leader of the team doesn't necessarily need to be doing the lion's share of 
the work (in fact, in many cases, it's better if you aren't), and you don't 
need to be a core contributor. You do need to be able to commit to running 
meetings once a week or every two weeks, and keeping an eye on reviews.

Of course, I am here to support anyone who chooses to take this on, as well.

Lana

On 03/10/15 04:40, Nick Chase wrote:
> I'm actually serious on abdicating here; I'm catching up after being good and 
> sick (and theoretically I'm still on sick leave) so it would probably be 
> better if I stepped aside.
> 
> Who wants it?
> 
>   Nick
> 
> On 10/2/2015 12:06 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>> On 10/02/2015 11:53 AM, Nick Chase wrote:
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>>   Nick
>> Having meetings on irc in order to allow new contributors to read some
>> archives to get up to speed is one of the reasons we encourage projects
>> to have meetings on irc.
>>
>> Now we need folks willing to read archives and attend meetings, that is
>> true, but irc logs can serve as a doorway if we do have any new
>> contributors who are interested.
>>
>> Can I suggest networking guide team meetings move to irc?
>>
>> Thank you, I want to help this group continue and to grow. The work you
>> do is very important.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anita.
>>
>>> On 10/2/2015 11:52 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
 I hope your surgery went well. However, the problems began long before
 9/9.

 On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Nick Chase >>> > wrote:

  I had major surgery on 9/9 and have been on sick leave, I take
  responsibility for falling down on the job there.

  I hereby abdicate if someone else feels they can take it.

  Thanks...

  ---

  On 10/2/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Kassawara wrote:
>  I find it extremely unfortunate that the networking guide team
>  disintegrated after the initial release of the guide for Kilo. No
>  one attends the meetings and no one outside of a couple of people
>  make any significant contributions. Furthermore, the guide
>  receives little attention from neutron developers who are key to
>  keeping the content fresh.
>
>  I suggest we either disband the team or find new leadership for it.
>
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