Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Kyle Mestery 
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kris G. Lindgren 
wrote:

>   Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level
> of isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?
>
>  Specifically talking about:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034
>
> That bug is actually tracked by a BP as well which is approved and marked
as Kilo-2 [1].



>  I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron
> is currently not.
>

That may be true. The plan which was agreed to and executed on by the TC
during Juno is here [2]. If there are other features people want from
nova-network in neutron, I encourage them to file bugs or specs to track
them.

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/arp-spoof-patch-ebtables
[2]
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee/Neutron_Gap_Coverage


>
> Kris Lindgren
> Senior Linux Systems Engineer
> GoDaddy, LLC.
>
>   From: matt 
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
> To: Anita Kuno 
> Cc: Angus Lees , OpenStack Development Mailing List <
> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>, "
> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org" <
> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron
> migration
>
>   Will do.
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>
>> On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
>> > Hey Mike!
>> >
>> > Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very
>> interested
>> > in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> Hello Matt:
>>
>> Please start attending the weekly meetings:
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
>> follow the logs from it:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
>> as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
>> and the nova weekly meeting:
>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
>>
>> After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
>> either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
>>
>> Thank you Matt,
>> Anita.
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>> >> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
>> >> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>> >> same place at the same time.
>> >>
>> >> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>> >> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>> >> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>> >> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>> >>
>> >> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>> >> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>> >> reference as well.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
>> wrote:
>> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
>> and
>> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
>> can
>> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
>> told
>> >>> you do.
>> >>>
>> >>> Where we are:
>> >>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>> >>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>> >>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>> >>> responsibilities
>> >>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>> >>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>> >>> first draft or a champion
>> >>>
>> >>> Where I would like to get to:
>> >>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
>> help
>> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>> >>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>> >>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
>> find
>> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>> >>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>> >>>
>> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
>> work
>> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I wi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Anita Kuno 
On 01/16/2015 09:19 AM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote:
> Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level of 
> isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?
> 
> Specifically talking about:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034
> 
> I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron is 
> currently not.
> 
> 
> Kris Lindgren
> Senior Linux Systems Engineer
> GoDaddy, LLC.
Can I convince you to attend the weekly nova-net to neutron migration
meeting and ensure that it is?

Thanks Kris,
Anita.
> 
> From: matt mailto:m...@nycresistor.com>>
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
> To: Anita Kuno mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>>
> Cc: Angus Lees mailto:gusl...@gmail.com>>, OpenStack 
> Development Mailing List 
> mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>,
>  
> "openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org"
>  
> mailto:openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron 
> migration
> 
> Will do.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno 
> mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>> wrote:
> On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
>> Hey Mike!
>>
>> Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
>> in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
> Hello Matt:
> 
> Please start attending the weekly meetings:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
> follow the logs from it:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
> as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
> and the nova weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
> 
> After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
> either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
> 
> Thank you Matt,
> Anita.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still 
>> mailto:mi...@stillhq.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>>> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to 
>>> talk about this. It
>>> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>>> same place at the same time.
>>>
>>> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>>> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>>> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>>> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>>> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>>> reference as well.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
>>> mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>> wrote:
 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread matt 
Will do.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno  wrote:

> On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
> > Hey Mike!
> >
> > Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very
> interested
> > in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> Hello Matt:
>
> Please start attending the weekly meetings:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
> follow the logs from it:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
> as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
> and the nova weekly meeting:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
>
> After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
> either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
>
> Thank you Matt,
> Anita.
>
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
> >> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
> >> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
> >> same place at the same time.
> >>
> >> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
> >> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
> >> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
> >> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
> >>
> >> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
> >> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
> >> reference as well.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
> wrote:
> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
> and
> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
> can
> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
> told
> >>> you do.
> >>>
> >>> Where we are:
> >>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> >>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> >>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> >>> responsibilities
> >>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> >>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> >>> first draft or a champion
> >>>
> >>> Where I would like to get to:
> >>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
> help
> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> >>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> >>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
> find
> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> >>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
> >>>
> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
> work
> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
> work,
> >>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
> would
> >>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> >>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> >>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
> of
> >>> which I am capable.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> >>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> >>> keep going and finish this.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Anita.
> >>>
> >>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >>>
> >>> ___
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> >>> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
> >>>
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Anita Kuno 
On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
> Hey Mike!
> 
> Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
> in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
> 
> -Matt
> 
Hello Matt:

Please start attending the weekly meetings:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
follow the logs from it:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
and the nova weekly meeting:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/

After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
either at one of the above meetings or do email me.

Thank you Matt,
Anita.

> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
>> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
>> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
>> same place at the same time.
>>
>> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
>> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
>> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
>> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>>
>> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
>> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
>> reference as well.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
>>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
>>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
>>> you do.
>>>
>>> Where we are:
>>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>>> responsibilities
>>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>>> first draft or a champion
>>>
>>> Where I would like to get to:
>>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
>>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
>>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>>>
>>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
>>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
>>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
>>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
>>> which I am capable.
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
>>> keep going and finish this.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Anita.
>>>
>>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
>>>
>>> ___
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>>> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-13 Thread matt 
Hey Mike!

Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.

-Matt

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still  wrote:

> Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
> got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
> wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
> same place at the same time.
>
> To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
> Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
> Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
> discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
>
> I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
> thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
> reference as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
> > Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
> > where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
> > get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
> > you do.
> >
> > Where we are:
> > * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> > parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> > are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> > * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> > * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> > responsibilities
> > * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> > * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> > significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> > first draft or a champion
> >
> > Where I would like to get to:
> > * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
> > come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> > very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> > person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> > * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> > problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> > * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
> > each other, talk to each other and track progress
> > * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> > meetings to communicate status and needs
> >
> > We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
> > will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
> > in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
> > like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> > ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> > identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
> > which I am capable.
> >
> > Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> > effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> > keep going and finish this.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Anita.
> >
> > [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >
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> > openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
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>
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-13 Thread Michael Still 
Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
same place at the same time.

To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.

I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
reference as well.

Cheers,
Michael

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
> you do.
>
> Where we are:
> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> responsibilities
> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> first draft or a champion
>
> Where I would like to get to:
> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> meetings to communicate status and needs
>
> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
> which I am capable.
>
> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> keep going and finish this.
>
> Thank you,
> Anita.
>
> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Anita Kuno 
On 01/08/2015 08:30 AM, Jakub Libosvar wrote:
> On 12/24/2014 10:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno > > wrote:
>>
>> On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
>> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno
>> mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we
>> are and
>> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how
>> you can
>> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have
>> been told
>> >>> you do.
>> >>>
>> >>> Where we are:
>> >>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
>> achieve
>> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
>> involved
>> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>> >>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>> >>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>> >>> responsibilities
>> >>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>> >>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
>> needs
>> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't
>> have a
>> >>> first draft or a champion
>> >>>
>> >>> Where I would like to get to:
>> >>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available
>> to help
>> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the
>> specs in a
>> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a
>> fabulous
>> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>> >>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>> >>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort
>> to find
>> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>> >>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>> >>>
>> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect
>> this work
>> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing
>> this work,
>> >>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If
>> you would
>> >>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be
>> thinking of
>> >>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>> >>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective
>> methods of
>> >>> which I am capable.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten
>> in this
>> >>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great
>> work. Let's
>> >>> keep going and finish this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>> Anita.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
>> happy
>> >> about this. I support you 100%.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on
>> the nova
>> >> side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1
>> here to
>> >> continue moving this forward.
>> >>
>> >
>> > At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
>> migration as
>> > a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this
>> happen and
>> > want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
>> contact,
>> > anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
>> > zones.
>> >
>> > From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out
>> the first
>> > spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
>> > reviewing it as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [0]
>> >
>> 
>> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
>> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
>> >
>> >
>> Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
>>
>> It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
>> progress in an archived manner.
>>
>> I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
>> called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
>>
>>
>> It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
>> Attaching the log here.
>>
>>
>> So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
>> don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
>> time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
>> meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Jakub Libosvar 
On 12/24/2014 10:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno  > wrote:
> 
> On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery  > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno
> mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we
> are and
> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how
> you can
> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have
> been told
> >>> you do.
> >>>
> >>> Where we are:
> >>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
> achieve
> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
> involved
> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> >>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> >>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> >>> responsibilities
> >>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> >>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
> needs
> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't
> have a
> >>> first draft or a champion
> >>>
> >>> Where I would like to get to:
> >>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available
> to help
> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the
> specs in a
> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a
> fabulous
> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> >>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> >>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort
> to find
> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> >>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
> >>>
> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect
> this work
> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing
> this work,
> >>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If
> you would
> >>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be
> thinking of
> >>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> >>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective
> methods of
> >>> which I am capable.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten
> in this
> >>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great
> work. Let's
> >>> keep going and finish this.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Anita.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
> happy
> >> about this. I support you 100%.
> >>
> >> I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on
> the nova
> >> side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1
> here to
> >> continue moving this forward.
> >>
> >
> > At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
> migration as
> > a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this
> happen and
> > want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
> contact,
> > anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
> > zones.
> >
> > From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out
> the first
> > spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
> > reviewing it as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [0]
> >
> 
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >
> >
> Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
> 
> It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
> progress in an archived manner.
> 
> I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
> called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
> 
> 
> It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
> Attaching the log here.
> 
> 
> So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
> don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
> time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
> meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
> 
> I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
> 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wedn

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-30 Thread Oleg Bondarev 
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:

> On 12/24/2014 04:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
> >> wrote:
> >
> > Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
> >> and
> > where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
> >> can
> > get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
> >> told
> > you do.
> >
> > Where we are:
> > * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
> achieve
> > parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
> involved
> > are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> > * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> > * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> > responsibilities
> > * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> > * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
> needs
> > significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have
> a
> > first draft or a champion
> >
> > Where I would like to get to:
> > * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
> >> help
> > come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in
> a
> > very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> > person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> > * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> > problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> > * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
> >> find
> > each other, talk to each other and track progress
> > * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> > meetings to communicate status and needs
> >
> > We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
> >> work
> > will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
> >> work,
> > in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
> >> would
> > like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> > ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> > identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
> >> of
> > which I am capable.
> >
> > Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in
> this
> > effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work.
> Let's
> > keep going and finish this.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Anita.
> >
> > Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
> happy
>  about this. I support you 100%.
> 
>  I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the
> nova
>  side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here
> to
>  continue moving this forward.
> 
> >>>
> >>> At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
> migration
> >> as
> >>> a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
> >> and
> >>> want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
> >> contact,
> >>> anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
> >>> zones.
> >>>
> >>> From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the
> first
> >>> spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
> >>> reviewing it as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [0]
> >>>
> >>
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
> >>
> >> It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
> >> progress in an archived manner.
> >>
> >> I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
> >> called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
> >>
> >
> > It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
> Attaching
> > the log here.
> >
> Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find the log. Thanks for the
> attachment.
> >
> >> So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
> >> don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
> >> time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
> >> meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
> >>
> >> I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
> >> 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100
> UTC.
> >>
> >
> > I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also
> acceptable.
> >
> > Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-29 Thread Anita Kuno 
On 12/24/2014 04:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>>
>> On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery 
>> wrote:
>>>
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
>> wrote:
>
> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
>> and
> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
>> can
> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
>> told
> you do.
>
> Where we are:
> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> responsibilities
> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> first draft or a champion
>
> Where I would like to get to:
> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
>> help
> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
>> find
> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> meetings to communicate status and needs
>
> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
>> work
> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
>> work,
> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
>> would
> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
>> of
> which I am capable.
>
> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> keep going and finish this.
>
> Thank you,
> Anita.
>
> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
 about this. I support you 100%.

 I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
 side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
 continue moving this forward.

>>>
>>> At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration
>> as
>>> a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
>> and
>>> want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
>> contact,
>>> anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
>>> zones.
>>>
>>> From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
>>> spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
>>> reviewing it as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [0]
>>>
>> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
>>>
>>>
>> Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
>>
>> It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
>> progress in an archived manner.
>>
>> I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
>> called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
>>
> 
> It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration. Attaching
> the log here.
> 
Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find the log. Thanks for the
attachment.
> 
>> So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
>> don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
>> time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
>> meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
>>
>> I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
>> 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.
>>
> 
> I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.
> 
> Thanks,
> Oleg
Wonderful, thank you Oleg. We will aim for a meeting time in this range.
I also understand holidays in Russia start on January 1 and go until the
11th or the 12th, I'm guessing this includes you.

Thanks,
Anita.
> 
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anita.
>>

 Thanks,
 Kyle


> [0] https://etherpad.openst

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-24 Thread Oleg Bondarev 
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>
> On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
> and
> >>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
> can
> >>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
> told
> >>> you do.
> >>>
> >>> Where we are:
> >>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> >>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> >>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> >>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> >>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> >>> responsibilities
> >>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> >>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> >>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> >>> first draft or a champion
> >>>
> >>> Where I would like to get to:
> >>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
> help
> >>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> >>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> >>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> >>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> >>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> >>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
> find
> >>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> >>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> >>> meetings to communicate status and needs
> >>>
> >>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
> work
> >>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
> work,
> >>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
> would
> >>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> >>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> >>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
> of
> >>> which I am capable.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> >>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> >>> keep going and finish this.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Anita.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
> >> about this. I support you 100%.
> >>
> >> I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
> >> side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
> >> continue moving this forward.
> >>
> >
> > At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration
> as
> > a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
> and
> > want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
> contact,
> > anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
> > zones.
> >
> > From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
> > spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
> > reviewing it as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [0]
> >
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
> > [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >
> >
> Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
>
> It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
> progress in an archived manner.
>
> I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
> called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
>

It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration. Attaching
the log here.


> So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
> don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
> time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
> meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
>
> I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
> 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.
>

I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.

Thanks,
Oleg


>
> Thanks,
> Anita.
>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kyle
> >>
> >>
> >>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> >>>
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> >>> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-22 Thread Anita Kuno 
On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
>>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
>>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
>>> you do.
>>>
>>> Where we are:
>>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>>> responsibilities
>>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>>> first draft or a champion
>>>
>>> Where I would like to get to:
>>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
>>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
>>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>>>
>>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
>>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
>>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
>>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
>>> which I am capable.
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
>>> keep going and finish this.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Anita.
>>>
>>> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
>> about this. I support you 100%.
>>
>> I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
>> side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
>> continue moving this forward.
>>
> 
> At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration as
> a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen and
> want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of contact,
> anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
> zones.
> 
> From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
> spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
> reviewing it as well.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [0]
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
> 
> 
Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.

It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
progress in an archived manner.

I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
called so so far I can't find the logs for that.

So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.

I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.

Thanks,
Anita.

>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-22 Thread Joe Gordon 
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>>
>> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
>> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
>> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
>> you do.
>>
>> Where we are:
>> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
>> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
>> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
>> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
>> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
>> responsibilities
>> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
>> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
>> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
>> first draft or a champion
>>
>> Where I would like to get to:
>> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
>> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
>> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
>> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
>> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
>> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
>> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
>> each other, talk to each other and track progress
>> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
>> meetings to communicate status and needs
>>
>> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
>> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
>> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
>> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
>> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
>> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
>> which I am capable.
>>
>> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
>> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
>> keep going and finish this.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Anita.
>>
>> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
> about this. I support you 100%.
>
> I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
> side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
> continue moving this forward.
>

At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration as
a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen and
want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of contact,
anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
zones.

>From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
reviewing it as well.




[0]
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/


>
> Thanks,
> Kyle
>
>
>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-19 Thread Kyle Mestery 
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno  wrote:
>
> Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
> where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
> get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
> you do.
>
> Where we are:
> * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
> parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
> are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
> * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
> * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
> responsibilities
> * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
> * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
> significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
> first draft or a champion
>
> Where I would like to get to:
> * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
> come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
> very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
> person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
> * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
> problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
> * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
> each other, talk to each other and track progress
> * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
> meetings to communicate status and needs
>
> We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
> will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
> in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
> like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
> ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
> identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
> which I am capable.
>
> Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
> effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
> keep going and finish this.
>
> Thank you,
> Anita.
>
> Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
about this. I support you 100%.

I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
continue moving this forward.

Thanks,
Kyle


> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
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