[openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
Hi all, OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. Thanks to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest and mock stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to Shrews, "looking like she was drunk." :) One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked and what didn't. For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who watched the video [2] thought about using the slides. Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the etherpad [3]? Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, instead of before? Very much interested in hearing answers/opinions about the above questions. We're keen to provide the best experience possible, and are open to any ideas. Best, -jay [1] http://bit.ly/obh-mock-best-practices [2] http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-mock-best-practices ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > Hi all, > > OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. > Thanks to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest and > mock stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to Shrews, > "looking like she was drunk." :) > > One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked > and what didn't. > > For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were > referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who watched > the video [2] thought about using the slides. > > Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the > etherpad [3]? > > Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? > > Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, > instead of before? > > Very much interested in hearing answers/opinions about the above > questions. We're keen to provide the best experience possible, and are open > to any ideas. > > Best, > -jay > > [1] http://bit.ly/obh-mock-best-practices > [2] http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw > [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-mock-best-practices > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > So first off.. nice job to You, Sean and Dan. Watched the session last night and thought it was a great idea and had some really good content. As far as slides, never thought I'd say "I liked having the slides" but in my case viewing the session after the fact I found the slides useful and personally I think it kept some boundaries around context around the discussion. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:07 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. >> Thanks to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest and >> mock stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to Shrews, >> "looking like she was drunk." :) >> >> One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked >> and what didn't. >> >> For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were >> referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who watched >> the video [2] thought about using the slides. >> >> Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the >> etherpad [3]? >> >> Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? >> >> Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, >> instead of before? >> >> Very much interested in hearing answers/opinions about the above >> questions. We're keen to provide the best experience possible, and are open >> to any ideas. >> >> Best, >> -jay >> >> [1] http://bit.ly/obh-mock-best-practices >> [2] http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw >> [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-mock-best-practices >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > So first off.. nice job to You, Sean and Dan. Watched the session last > night and thought it was a great idea and had some really good content. > > As far as slides, never thought I'd say "I liked having the slides" but in > my case viewing the session after the fact I found the slides useful and > personally I think it kept some boundaries around context around the > discussion. > > ++ to having the context and the ability to look forward and backward as needed. Also, ++ to having drunk pugs on YouTube. David Shrewsbury (Shrews) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:27:40PM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: > OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. Thanks > to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest and mock > stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to Shrews, > "looking like she was drunk." :) Just echoing the positive comments since the "show". I watched the youtube rather than the live session and it was really good. The format is pretty much spot on to my mind. Thanks everyone. > One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked and > what didn't. > > For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were > referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who watched > the video [2] thought about using the slides. > Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the > etherpad [3]? I like the slides in the stream, as it helps focus the watcher on key messages. That said I also had the luxury/ advantage of watching thr recorded session so I had the slides locally and could really look at the refined links from the etherpad. > Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? No. > Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, instead > of before? No. 1) As I said above they're useful inline ; and 2) Producing them befoer the presenter(s) define what will be discussed and how during the hour. I understand that there is having to do 'slideware' may deter potential presenters, but I think they're valuable. Tony. pgpvFR10WjBAB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
Hi, I think that it was very informative and useful. I have forwarded it to a number of new people starting to work on OpenStack and who were wondering how to use mockŠ So two birds with one stone. Thanks! Gary On 9/22/14, 7:27 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: >Hi all, > >OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. >Thanks to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest >and mock stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to >Shrews, "looking like she was drunk." :) > >One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked >and what didn't. > >For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were >referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who >watched the video [2] thought about using the slides. > >Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the >etherpad [3]? > >Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? > >Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, >instead of before? > >Very much interested in hearing answers/opinions about the above >questions. We're keen to provide the best experience possible, and are >open to any ideas. > >Best, >-jay > >[1] >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://bit.ly/obh-mock-best-pra >ctices&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=eH0pxTUZo8NPZyF6hgoMQu%2BfDty >sg45MkPhCZFxPEq8%3D%0A&m=mRBZtkhZN%2FYXcozwcqLrrfLMrE2ItK9T2%2FjmB72dQiY%3 >D%0A&s=9001183cba07f4c3dfeaba68c6f48b006fcf8974432f53b94a6ee424511a65c5 >[2] >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw&k=o >IvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=eH0pxTUZo8NPZyF6hgoMQu%2BfDtysg45MkPhCZ >FxPEq8%3D%0A&m=mRBZtkhZN%2FYXcozwcqLrrfLMrE2ItK9T2%2FjmB72dQiY%3D%0A&s=843 >cf6d8b5dd4f38e3c9b452744928093eafe10ccd6b0dca7419915484229bd2 >[3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-mock-best-practices > >___ >OpenStack-dev mailing list >OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...
On 9/22/2014 11:27 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi all, OK, so we had our inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour last Friday. Thanks to Sean and Dan for putting up with my rambling about unittest and mock stuff. And thanks to one of my pugs, Winnie, for, according to Shrews, "looking like she was drunk." :) One thing we're doing today is a bit of a post-mortem around what worked and what didn't. For this first OBH session, I put together some slides [1] that were referenced during the hangout session. I'm wondering what folks who watched the video [2] thought about using the slides. Were the slides useful compared to just providing links to code on the etherpad [3]? Were the slides a hindrance to the flow of the OBH session? Would a production of slides be better to do *after* an OBH session, instead of before? Very much interested in hearing answers/opinions about the above questions. We're keen to provide the best experience possible, and are open to any ideas. Best, -jay [1] http://bit.ly/obh-mock-best-practices [2] http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw [3] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-mock-best-practices ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev If you have the slides available before the session it's good to post them, I had them open during the live session since once we got to code examples (and before the links were posted in the etherpad) I was looking at the slides separately. -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
