[openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
Hi All, As I understand, Neutron by far has the clearest big tent mode via its in-tree/out-of-tree decomposition, thanks to Kyle and other Neutron team members effort. So my question is, is it the same for the other projects? For example, does Nova also have the project-level Big Tent Mode Neutron has? Many thanks. -- Zhipeng (Howard) Huang Standard Engineer IT Standard & Patent/IT Prooduct Line Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen (Previous) Research Assistant Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2 University of California, Irvine Email: zhipe...@uci.edu Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402 OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
On 06/03/2015 08:25 AM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: Hi All, As I understand, Neutron by far has the clearest big tent mode via its in-tree/out-of-tree decomposition, thanks to Kyle and other Neutron team members effort. So my question is, is it the same for the other projects? For example, does Nova also have the project-level Big Tent Mode Neutron has? Hi Zhipeng, At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting out of driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos would be feasible. Best, -jay __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
THX Jay :) On Jun 3, 2015 8:41 PM, "Jay Pipes" wrote: > On 06/03/2015 08:25 AM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> As I understand, Neutron by far has the clearest big tent mode via its >> in-tree/out-of-tree decomposition, thanks to Kyle and other Neutron team >> members effort. >> >> So my question is, is it the same for the other projects? For example, >> does Nova also have the project-level Big Tent Mode Neutron has? >> > > Hi Zhipeng, > > At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting out > of driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing > this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time > being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and > document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos > would be feasible. > > Best, > -jay > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
On 3 June 2015 at 13:39, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 06/03/2015 08:25 AM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> As I understand, Neutron by far has the clearest big tent mode via its >> in-tree/out-of-tree decomposition, thanks to Kyle and other Neutron team >> members effort. >> >> So my question is, is it the same for the other projects? For example, >> does Nova also have the project-level Big Tent Mode Neutron has? > > > Hi Zhipeng, > > At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting out of > driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing > this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time > being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and > document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos > would be feasible. +1 to jay's comment. I see Nova's mission as providing a solid interoperable API experience to on-demand compute resources. Right now, thats happening best by keeping things in tree, but we are doing work to make other options possible. I actually see the existence of projects such as Cinder, Heat and Magnum as success stories born out of Nova saying no to expanding our scope (and in the case of Cinder, actively trying to reduce our scope). I hope more of both of those things will happen in the future. If we had accepted these efforts into Nova, they would not have had the freedom they get by living inside OpenStack, but outside of Compute. Something the big tent makes much easier to deal with. I don't think they would have gained much by being inside the compute project, mostly because we are all crazy busy looking after Nova. Thanks, John __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
Jay, > At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting out > of driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing > this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time > being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and > document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos > would be feasible. Imho not only Neutron has this. ;) Rally support out of tree plugins as well and I saw already some third party repos: https://github.com/stackforge/haos Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:08 PM, John Garbutt wrote: > On 3 June 2015 at 13:39, Jay Pipes wrote: > > On 06/03/2015 08:25 AM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> As I understand, Neutron by far has the clearest big tent mode via its > >> in-tree/out-of-tree decomposition, thanks to Kyle and other Neutron team > >> members effort. > >> > >> So my question is, is it the same for the other projects? For example, > >> does Nova also have the project-level Big Tent Mode Neutron has? > > > > > > Hi Zhipeng, > > > > At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting > out of > > driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing > > this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time > > being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and > > document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos > > would be feasible. > > +1 to jay's comment. > > I see Nova's mission as providing a solid interoperable API experience > to on-demand compute resources. Right now, thats happening best by > keeping things in tree, but we are doing work to make other options > possible. > > I actually see the existence of projects such as Cinder, Heat and > Magnum as success stories born out of Nova saying no to expanding our > scope (and in the case of Cinder, actively trying to reduce our > scope). I hope more of both of those things will happen in the future. > > If we had accepted these efforts into Nova, they would not have had > the freedom they get by living inside OpenStack, but outside of > Compute. Something the big tent makes much easier to deal with. I > don't think they would have gained much by being inside the compute > project, mostly because we are all crazy busy looking after Nova. > > Thanks, > John > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
On 06/04/2015 07:46 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Jay, At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any splitting out of driver and advanced services repos. Other projects have discussed doing this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion was put on hold for the time being. Last I remember, we agreed that we would clean up, stabilize and document the virt driver API in Nova before any splitting of driver repos would be feasible. Imho not only Neutron has this. ;) Rally support out of tree plugins as well and I saw already some third party repos: https://github.com/stackforge/haos Yup, good point, Boris! -jay __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [all]Big Tent Mode within respective projects
Nice pointer Boris ! :) On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 06/04/2015 07:46 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: > >> Jay, >> >> >> At this time, Neutron is the only project that has done any >> splitting out of driver and advanced services repos. Other projects >> have discussed doing this, but, at least in Nova, that discussion >> was put on hold for the time being. Last I remember, we agreed that >> we would clean up, stabilize and document the virt driver API in >> Nova before any splitting of driver repos would be feasible. >> >> >> Imho not only Neutron has this. ;) >> Rally support out of tree plugins as well and I saw already some third >> party repos: >> https://github.com/stackforge/haos >> > > Yup, good point, Boris! > > -jay > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Zhipeng (Howard) Huang Standard Engineer IT Standard & Patent/IT Prooduct Line Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen (Previous) Research Assistant Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2 University of California, Irvine Email: zhipe...@uci.edu Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402 OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
