Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] more specific tags?

2015-09-01 Thread Markus Zoeller
Matt Riedemann <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote on 08/31/2015 10:16:23 
PM:

> From: Matt Riedemann <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> Date: 08/31/2015 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] more specific tags?
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/28/2015 10:37 AM, Markus Zoeller wrote:
> > This is a proposal to enhance the list of offical tags for our bugs
> > in Launchpad. During the tagging process in the last weeks it seems
> > to me that some of the tags are too coarse-grained. Would you see a
> > benefit in enhancing the official list to more fine-grained tags?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Would you see this as benefitial? If yes, which tags would you like to
> > have additionally? If no, what did I miss or overlook?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Markus Zoeller (markus_z)
> 
> Given my cynical nature, I have to ask, are the bug tags really helping 
> with focusing triage by sub-teams?  Or are we somehow pulling or 
> planning to pull this info into some analysis, like, 'we have a lot of 
> bugs in component x, use case y, so we need to refactor and/or beef up 
> testing there'.  Otherwise I feel like we're just adding more official 
> tags that very few people will be aware of or care about.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt Riedemann

If this would help the sub-teams to split things up cannot be answered
by me. I hope some of the sub-team leaders will give their opinion here.

>From a users point of view I don't care, as an example, if the libvirt
driver is (theoretically) without bugs. I'm interested if I can do a 
live-migration/snapshot/reboot/ and if I 
can do so, what are my restrictions. So, yes, the rationale behind the
proposal was indeed to get an impression where it makes sense to invest
time and effort, mainly from a use case perspective through the layers.
We have enough open bugs to be busy all the time and I don't want to 
make any orders of direction. You could see it as a navigation system.
It makes nice suggestions which way you could go, but you are free to
take another route because of personal experience or unforeseen events.

Regards,
Markus Zoeller (markus_z)


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] more specific tags?

2015-08-31 Thread Jay Pipes

On 08/28/2015 11:37 AM, Markus Zoeller wrote:

This is a proposal to enhance the list of offical tags for our bugs
in Launchpad. During the tagging process in the last weeks it seems
to me that some of the tags are too coarse-grained. Would you see a
benefit in enhancing the official list to more fine-grained tags?


Yes.


refine component oriented tags:
* network: nova-network + neutron + pci-passthrough
* volumes: block-device-mapping + multipath + fibre-channel + attachment


++ on all the above.


add new "bug-theme" tags:
* numa
* availability_zones


Replace _ with -, but yes on both.


add use case centered tags:
* spawn
* resize
* rebuild
* snapshot
* swap-disk


Not entirely sure about swap-disk, but the others look fine to me.


add non-functional tags:
* performance
* gate-failure
* upgrades


Yeah, no brainers.


add release cycle tags:
* in-stable-juno
* in-stable-kilo


Hmm, I'm negative on this. Because bugs can be targeted at individual 
multiple milestones/releases, I don't think this is necessary.



Would you see this as benefitial? If yes, which tags would you like to
have additionally? If no, what did I miss or overlook?


Yeah, I really like the proposed new tags, thank you for this, Markus!

Best,
-jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] more specific tags?

2015-08-31 Thread Matt Riedemann



On 8/28/2015 10:37 AM, Markus Zoeller wrote:

This is a proposal to enhance the list of offical tags for our bugs
in Launchpad. During the tagging process in the last weeks it seems
to me that some of the tags are too coarse-grained. Would you see a
benefit in enhancing the official list to more fine-grained tags?

Additionally I would like to enhance the tags by use case oriented
tags like "spawn" and "snapshot" (like we already have with
"live-migration") to signalize which features are impacted by this
bug which could be benefitial for:
* release letters
* use case centered SMEs through the components/layers

refine component oriented tags:
* network: nova-network + neutron + pci-passthrough
* volumes: block-device-mapping + multipath + fibre-channel + attachment

add new "bug-theme" tags:
* numa
* availability_zones

add use case centered tags:
* spawn
* resize
* rebuild
* snapshot
* swap-disk

add non-functional tags:
* performance
* gate-failure
* upgrades

add release cycle tags:
* in-stable-juno
* in-stable-kilo

Would you see this as benefitial? If yes, which tags would you like to
have additionally? If no, what did I miss or overlook?

Regards,
Markus Zoeller (markus_z)


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Given my cynical nature, I have to ask, are the bug tags really helping 
with focusing triage by sub-teams?  Or are we somehow pulling or 
planning to pull this info into some analysis, like, 'we have a lot of 
bugs in component x, use case y, so we need to refactor and/or beef up 
testing there'.  Otherwise I feel like we're just adding more official 
tags that very few people will be aware of or care about.


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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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[openstack-dev] [nova][bugs] more specific tags?

2015-08-28 Thread Markus Zoeller
This is a proposal to enhance the list of offical tags for our bugs
in Launchpad. During the tagging process in the last weeks it seems
to me that some of the tags are too coarse-grained. Would you see a
benefit in enhancing the official list to more fine-grained tags?

Additionally I would like to enhance the tags by use case oriented
tags like spawn and snapshot (like we already have with 
live-migration) to signalize which features are impacted by this
bug which could be benefitial for:
* release letters
* use case centered SMEs through the components/layers

refine component oriented tags:
* network: nova-network + neutron + pci-passthrough
* volumes: block-device-mapping + multipath + fibre-channel + attachment

add new bug-theme tags:
* numa
* availability_zones

add use case centered tags:
* spawn
* resize
* rebuild
* snapshot
* swap-disk

add non-functional tags:
* performance
* gate-failure
* upgrades

add release cycle tags:
* in-stable-juno
* in-stable-kilo

Would you see this as benefitial? If yes, which tags would you like to
have additionally? If no, what did I miss or overlook?

Regards,
Markus Zoeller (markus_z)


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