Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-09 Thread Juan Antonio Osorio
Hey,

as a matter of fact in Barbican we are also in need of proper ACLs and
there is currently work on-going on implementing them:

http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/barbican-specs/specs/kilo/add-creator-only-option.html

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Rich Wellner r...@objenv.com wrote:

  Yeah, sounds like a plan.

 FWIW, our target implementation will be Arista switches.

 rw2


 On 4/8/15 11:52 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:

 My plan is to repropose that for Liberty. I will re upload it to the spec
 repo in the next couple of weeks. When I do that it would be great to get
 your feedback. Perhaps we can divide up the work or you can expand the
 model to things other than subnets.
 On Apr 8, 2015 9:43 AM, Rich Wellner r...@objenv.com wrote:

 On 4/8/15 11:17 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:

 What do you mean by ACLs? Is it anything similar to the following?
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132661/

 Yes, our goals are very closely aligned with yours. And the rst doc as
 well as the messages on that thread file in a lot of gaps for me. Thanks.

 What's your plan going forward?

 rw2


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[openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-08 Thread Rich Wellner

Hello everyone,

I (and my sponsor) are interested in adding ACLs to neutron and after 
trying IRC, emailing some githubbers directly and asking in a couple 
other places I've been told that this might be the place to have the 
discussion.


Here's what I've been told so far:

1) There was a proposal for Quantum ACLs that was never approved.

2) There might be a push to put ACLs in Keystone and have other services 
depend on this central resource for ACL information.


3) Swift has ACLs built into it (notably, not using Keystone)

4) I don't see ACLs in any service other than Swift.

So my question is: How can I meaningfully engage with the right people 
to understand what the current thoughts are for ACLs for all of open 
stack as well as Neutron?


If you google my name and open source you'll see that I've been in the 
game a while and have worked in a few different communities. As such, I 
found one piece of advice I was given while researching Neutron code up 
your proposal and submit it to be a bit naive. It's clear there have 
been some conversations about this in the past and I would really not 
want to spend a couple months starting from zero, coming up with a 
solution that *I* like and is objectively good but have it rejected 
because the community already has inertia going in a different direction.


So what I think I need to understand is something like:

o What are the current thoughts on ACLs globally and with regard to Neutron
o What people should I engage with (both for neutron and other services 
like keystone)


Thanks in advance to all who reply.

rw2



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Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-08 Thread Kevin Benton
What do you mean by ACLs? Is it anything similar to the following?
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132661/

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Rich Wellner r...@objenv.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I (and my sponsor) are interested in adding ACLs to neutron and after
 trying IRC, emailing some githubbers directly and asking in a couple other
 places I've been told that this might be the place to have the discussion.

 Here's what I've been told so far:

 1) There was a proposal for Quantum ACLs that was never approved.

 2) There might be a push to put ACLs in Keystone and have other services
 depend on this central resource for ACL information.

 3) Swift has ACLs built into it (notably, not using Keystone)

 4) I don't see ACLs in any service other than Swift.

 So my question is: How can I meaningfully engage with the right people to
 understand what the current thoughts are for ACLs for all of open stack as
 well as Neutron?

 If you google my name and open source you'll see that I've been in the
 game a while and have worked in a few different communities. As such, I
 found one piece of advice I was given while researching Neutron code up
 your proposal and submit it to be a bit naive. It's clear there have been
 some conversations about this in the past and I would really not want to
 spend a couple months starting from zero, coming up with a solution that
 *I* like and is objectively good but have it rejected because the community
 already has inertia going in a different direction.

 So what I think I need to understand is something like:

 o What are the current thoughts on ACLs globally and with regard to Neutron
 o What people should I engage with (both for neutron and other services
 like keystone)

 Thanks in advance to all who reply.

 rw2



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Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-08 Thread Rich Wellner

On 4/8/15 11:17 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:
What do you mean by ACLs? Is it anything similar to the following? 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132661/
Yes, our goals are very closely aligned with yours. And the rst doc as 
well as the messages on that thread file in a lot of gaps for me. Thanks.


What's your plan going forward?

rw2


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Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-08 Thread Kevin Benton
My plan is to repropose that for Liberty. I will re upload it to the spec
repo in the next couple of weeks. When I do that it would be great to get
your feedback. Perhaps we can divide up the work or you can expand the
model to things other than subnets.
On Apr 8, 2015 9:43 AM, Rich Wellner r...@objenv.com wrote:

 On 4/8/15 11:17 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:

 What do you mean by ACLs? Is it anything similar to the following?
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132661/

 Yes, our goals are very closely aligned with yours. And the rst doc as
 well as the messages on that thread file in a lot of gaps for me. Thanks.

 What's your plan going forward?

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Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron and ACLs

2015-04-08 Thread Rich Wellner

Yeah, sounds like a plan.

FWIW, our target implementation will be Arista switches.

rw2

On 4/8/15 11:52 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:


My plan is to repropose that for Liberty. I will re upload it to the 
spec repo in the next couple of weeks. When I do that it would be 
great to get your feedback. Perhaps we can divide up the work or you 
can expand the model to things other than subnets.


On Apr 8, 2015 9:43 AM, Rich Wellner r...@objenv.com 
mailto:r...@objenv.com wrote:


On 4/8/15 11:17 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:

What do you mean by ACLs? Is it anything similar to the
following? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132661/

Yes, our goals are very closely aligned with yours. And the rst
doc as well as the messages on that thread file in a lot of gaps
for me. Thanks.

What's your plan going forward?

rw2


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