Re: [openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
On 12/02/2013 08:20 PM, Chuck Short wrote: On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/02/2013 06:15 PM, Adam Young wrote: In order to provide Devstack a better certificate management example, we want to make devstack capable of calling Certmaster. This package is in Debian, but not in Ubuntu. For example http://packages.debian.org/experimental/certmaster How does one go about installing a package like this for devstack? Do we need to get it into the underlying distro, or is a cross distro install acceptable? I've tested it by hand and it install and works fine when pre-installed. Its just a distribution problem. That means it works, right now. But not being in the distro means there are no guaruntees of it working in the future. Honestly, at this point I'd -1 an add like this. I think pulling a package out of experimental is not really inspiring confidence. I'd suggest looking for a package available in Ubuntu natively. Yeah, wasn't suggesting we do that long term, just pointing out that it is a release issue, not a current code issue. -Sean Hi, So the way that the package syncs works from Debian to Ubuntu is that a package usually moves from Experimental-Unstable-Testing, Ubuntu usually picks the package up in Unstable and gets placed in Universe (usually). However that doesnt mean that the package will hit the cloud archive as well. How does a package make these transitions? Certmaster has been in Experimental since 2009. Regards chuck ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/02/2013 08:20 PM, Chuck Short wrote: On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/02/2013 06:15 PM, Adam Young wrote: In order to provide Devstack a better certificate management example, we want to make devstack capable of calling Certmaster. This package is in Debian, but not in Ubuntu. For example http://packages.debian.org/experimental/certmaster How does one go about installing a package like this for devstack? Do we need to get it into the underlying distro, or is a cross distro install acceptable? I've tested it by hand and it install and works fine when pre-installed. Its just a distribution problem. That means it works, right now. But not being in the distro means there are no guaruntees of it working in the future. Honestly, at this point I'd -1 an add like this. I think pulling a package out of experimental is not really inspiring confidence. I'd suggest looking for a package available in Ubuntu natively. Yeah, wasn't suggesting we do that long term, just pointing out that it is a release issue, not a current code issue. -Sean Hi, So the way that the package syncs works from Debian to Ubuntu is that a package usually moves from Experimental-Unstable-Testing, Ubuntu usually picks the package up in Unstable and gets placed in Universe (usually). However that doesnt mean that the package will hit the cloud archive as well. How does a package make these transitions? Certmaster has been in Experimental since 2009. It looks unmaintained to me, it never got out of experimental. Regards chuck ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
On 12/04/2013 04:51 AM, Adam Young wrote: Hi, So the way that the package syncs works from Debian to Ubuntu is that a package usually moves from Experimental-Unstable-Testing, Ubuntu usually picks the package up in Unstable and gets placed in Universe (usually). However that doesnt mean that the package will hit the cloud archive as well. How does a package make these transitions? Certmaster has been in Experimental since 2009. When a package is in Sid for N days without release critical bugs (N can be 5 or 10), and if all of its dependencies are in Testing, then it migrates automatically from Sid to Testing. Packages in Experimental never migrates to anything, they have to be uploaded to Sid at some point. In this specific case, I would suggest that you submit a bug against the package (see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting if you don't know how), asking for the package to be uploaded in Sid. If after 1 month you get no reply, then you can ping me, and I will NMU (non-maintainer upload) the package into Sid (through the 2 days delayed queue, to let the current maintainer react on it if he do not agree). Please send me the bug report when you're done with it, and ping me if nothing happens after a month. Note that if there's not even a reply to the bug tracker after a month, we can consider the current maintainer as MIA (Missing In Action), and ask for the package to be Orphaned (so that someone else may adopt the package). Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
In order to provide Devstack a better certificate management example, we want to make devstack capable of calling Certmaster. This package is in Debian, but not in Ubuntu. For example http://packages.debian.org/experimental/certmaster How does one go about installing a package like this for devstack? Do we need to get it into the underlying distro, or is a cross distro install acceptable? I've tested it by hand and it install and works fine when pre-installed. Its just a distribution problem. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
On 12/02/2013 06:15 PM, Adam Young wrote: In order to provide Devstack a better certificate management example, we want to make devstack capable of calling Certmaster. This package is in Debian, but not in Ubuntu. For example http://packages.debian.org/experimental/certmaster How does one go about installing a package like this for devstack? Do we need to get it into the underlying distro, or is a cross distro install acceptable? I've tested it by hand and it install and works fine when pre-installed. Its just a distribution problem. That means it works, right now. But not being in the distro means there are no guaruntees of it working in the future. Honestly, at this point I'd -1 an add like this. I think pulling a package out of experimental is not really inspiring confidence. I'd suggest looking for a package available in Ubuntu natively. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Package from Debian for Devstack?
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/02/2013 06:15 PM, Adam Young wrote: In order to provide Devstack a better certificate management example, we want to make devstack capable of calling Certmaster. This package is in Debian, but not in Ubuntu. For example http://packages.debian.org/experimental/certmaster How does one go about installing a package like this for devstack? Do we need to get it into the underlying distro, or is a cross distro install acceptable? I've tested it by hand and it install and works fine when pre-installed. Its just a distribution problem. That means it works, right now. But not being in the distro means there are no guaruntees of it working in the future. Honestly, at this point I'd -1 an add like this. I think pulling a package out of experimental is not really inspiring confidence. I'd suggest looking for a package available in Ubuntu natively. -Sean Hi, So the way that the package syncs works from Debian to Ubuntu is that a package usually moves from Experimental-Unstable-Testing, Ubuntu usually picks the package up in Unstable and gets placed in Universe (usually). However that doesnt mean that the package will hit the cloud archive as well. Regards chuck ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
