Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
Adam Young wrote: [...] I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living document. Small correction... As explained in my summary of wiki use cases[1], we are removing "reference" documentation from the wiki but we'll likely keep a wiki (or some other light publication platform) for things like team pages (internal team organization documents). So you could post your FAQ there, but users would likely miss it. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096481.html I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need some more help: [...] I agree that would be the best place. Users already expect to find answers on that website. Current content is of varying quality, which can discourage question-askers and question-answerers alike. If we can get more quality/curated content there we might start a virtuous circle -- getting developers more present there can only help. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
On 01/07/16 13:01, Adam Young wrote: On 06/28/2016 11:13 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: Quick answers in-line On 29/06/16 05:44, Adam Young wrote: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral and all the rest. If you send a list of ask openstack usernames to community...@openstack.org , happy to give them moderator rights. Anyone with karma beyond 200 already has them. The email bounced. Typo! communitym...@openstack.org We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages for that question. Like: I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? Example - something like this link for "Common Upstream Development Questions" https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/tags:common-upstream ? What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools we could use? Askbot - https://github.com/ASKBOT/askbot-devel __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
On 06/28/2016 08:33 PM, Steve Martinelli wrote:
I'm cool with the existing keystone repo and adding to docs. If we hit
a huge amount of content then we can migrate to a new repo. I think
Adam's main concern with this approach is that we reduce the
contributors down to folks that know the gerrit workflow.
We don't want a static troubleshooting guide. We want people to be able
to ask questionss and link them to answers, have community members add
their own answer...in short, what we hae in "ask.openstack" now, but not
well done or maintained.
Its often not a Keystone problem, but a Nova, Glance etc problem. We
can't stick the Answer in a Keystone repo.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Jamie Lennox <mailto:jamielen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 29 June 2016 at 09:49, Steve Martinelli mailto:s.martine...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we want something a bit more organized.
Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs repo, which could have:
- The FAQ Adam is asking about
- Install guides (moved over from openstack-manuals)
- A spot for all those neat and unofficial blog posts we do
- How-to guides
- etc...
I think it's a neat idea and warrants some discussion. Of
course, we don't want to be the odd project out.
What would be the advantage of a new repo rather than just using
the keystone/docs folder. My concern is that docs/ already gets
stagnate but a new repo would end up being largely ignored and at
least theoretically you can update docs/ when the relevant code
changes.
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco
mailto:sigmaviru...@gmail.com>> wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Adam Young mailto:ayo...@redhat.com>>
Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
questions)
mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and
ask.openstack.org <http://ask.openstack.org>
> Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a
troubleshooting
> document. While we could, eventually put this into the
Keystone repo,
> it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting
ideas from the
> community at large. How do we do this?
>
> I think we've had a long enough run with the
ask.openstack.org <http://ask.openstack.org> website
> to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an
update.
>
>
> I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like
to be able to
> generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but
as a living
> document.
>
> I think that ask.openstack.org
<http://ask.openstack.org> is the right forum for this,
but we need
> some more help:
>
> It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to
moderate Keystone
> questions on the site. That means that they should be
able to remove
> old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do
not apply and so
> on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance,
Trove, Mistral
> and all the rest.
>
> We need some better top level interface than just the
tags, though.
> Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when
troubleshooting
> keystone with a series of questions and links to the
discussion pages
> for that question. Like:
>
>
> I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do?
>
> What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org
<http://ask.openstack.org>?" does it have other tools
> we could use?
The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/
I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to
be able to do
some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't
explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc.
--
Ian Cordasco
__
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Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
On 06/28/2016 11:13 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: Quick answers in-line On 29/06/16 05:44, Adam Young wrote: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral and all the rest. If you send a list of ask openstack usernames to community...@openstack.org , happy to give them moderator rights. Anyone with karma beyond 200 already has them. The email bounced. We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages for that question. Like: I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? Example - something like this link for "Common Upstream Development Questions" https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/tags:common-upstream ? What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools we could use? Askbot - https://github.com/ASKBOT/askbot-devel __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Steve Martinelli wrote: > I think we want something a bit more organized. > > Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs repo, which could have: > > - The FAQ Adam is asking about > - Install guides (moved over from openstack-manuals) > - A spot for all those neat and unofficial blog posts we do > - How-to guides > - etc... > > I think it's a neat idea and warrants some discussion. Of course, we don't > want to be the odd project out. > Between the two proposals, I have to imagine that Operators would rather see a central place for troubleshooting rather than disparate project specific ones. > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco > wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Adam Young >> Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> >> Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List > > >> Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org >> >> > Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting >> > document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, >> > it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the >> > community at large. How do we do this? >> > >> > I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website >> > to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. >> > >> > >> > I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to >> > generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living >> > document. >> > >> > I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need >> > some more help: >> > >> > It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone >> > questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove >> > old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so >> > on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral >> > and all the rest. >> > >> > We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. >> > Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting >> > keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages >> > for that question. Like: >> > >> > >> > I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? >> > >> > What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools >> > we could use? >> >> The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/ >> >> I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to be able to do >> some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't >> explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc. >> >> -- >> Ian Cordasco >> >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- Kenny Johnston | irc:kencjohnston | @kencjohnston __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
Quick answers in-line On 29/06/16 05:44, Adam Young wrote: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral and all the rest. If you send a list of ask openstack usernames to community...@openstack.org , happy to give them moderator rights. Anyone with karma beyond 200 already has them. We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages for that question. Like: I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? Example - something like this link for "Common Upstream Development Questions" https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/tags:common-upstream ? What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools we could use? Askbot - https://github.com/ASKBOT/askbot-devel __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
I'm cool with the existing keystone repo and adding to docs. If we hit a huge amount of content then we can migrate to a new repo. I think Adam's main concern with this approach is that we reduce the contributors down to folks that know the gerrit workflow. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: > > > On 29 June 2016 at 09:49, Steve Martinelli wrote: > >> I think we want something a bit more organized. >> >> Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs repo, which could have: >> >> - The FAQ Adam is asking about >> - Install guides (moved over from openstack-manuals) >> - A spot for all those neat and unofficial blog posts we do >> - How-to guides >> - etc... >> >> I think it's a neat idea and warrants some discussion. Of course, we >> don't want to be the odd project out. >> > > What would be the advantage of a new repo rather than just using the > keystone/docs folder. My concern is that docs/ already gets stagnate but a > new repo would end up being largely ignored and at least theoretically you > can update docs/ when the relevant code changes. > > >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco >> wrote: >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Adam Young >>> Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> >>> Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26 >>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List < >>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> >>> Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org >>> >>> > Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting >>> > document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, >>> > it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the >>> > community at large. How do we do this? >>> > >>> > I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website >>> > to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. >>> > >>> > >>> > I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to >>> > generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living >>> > document. >>> > >>> > I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we >>> need >>> > some more help: >>> > >>> > It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone >>> > questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove >>> > old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and >>> so >>> > on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral >>> > and all the rest. >>> > >>> > We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. >>> > Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting >>> > keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages >>> > for that question. Like: >>> > >>> > >>> > I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? >>> > >>> > What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other >>> tools >>> > we could use? >>> >>> The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/ >>> >>> I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to be able to do >>> some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't >>> explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc. >>> >>> -- >>> Ian Cordasco >>> >>> >>> __ >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> Unsubscribe: >>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >> >> >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
On 29 June 2016 at 09:49, Steve Martinelli wrote: > I think we want something a bit more organized. > > Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs repo, which could have: > > - The FAQ Adam is asking about > - Install guides (moved over from openstack-manuals) > - A spot for all those neat and unofficial blog posts we do > - How-to guides > - etc... > > I think it's a neat idea and warrants some discussion. Of course, we don't > want to be the odd project out. > What would be the advantage of a new repo rather than just using the keystone/docs folder. My concern is that docs/ already gets stagnate but a new repo would end up being largely ignored and at least theoretically you can update docs/ when the relevant code changes. > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco > wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Adam Young >> Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> >> Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26 >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List > > >> Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org >> >> > Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting >> > document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, >> > it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the >> > community at large. How do we do this? >> > >> > I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website >> > to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. >> > >> > >> > I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to >> > generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living >> > document. >> > >> > I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need >> > some more help: >> > >> > It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone >> > questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove >> > old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so >> > on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral >> > and all the rest. >> > >> > We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. >> > Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting >> > keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages >> > for that question. Like: >> > >> > >> > I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? >> > >> > What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools >> > we could use? >> >> The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/ >> >> I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to be able to do >> some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't >> explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc. >> >> -- >> Ian Cordasco >> >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
I think we want something a bit more organized. Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs repo, which could have: - The FAQ Adam is asking about - Install guides (moved over from openstack-manuals) - A spot for all those neat and unofficial blog posts we do - How-to guides - etc... I think it's a neat idea and warrants some discussion. Of course, we don't want to be the odd project out. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Adam Young > Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List > Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org > > > Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting > > document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, > > it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the > > community at large. How do we do this? > > > > I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website > > to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. > > > > > > I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to > > generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living > > document. > > > > I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need > > some more help: > > > > It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone > > questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove > > old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so > > on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral > > and all the rest. > > > > We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. > > Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting > > keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages > > for that question. Like: > > > > > > I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? > > > > What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools > > we could use? > > The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/ > > I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to be able to do > some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't > explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc. > > -- > Ian Cordasco > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
-Original Message- From: Adam Young Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org > Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting > document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, > it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the > community at large. How do we do this? > > I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website > to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. > > > I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to > generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living > document. > > I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need > some more help: > > It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone > questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove > old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so > on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral > and all the rest. > > We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. > Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting > keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages > for that question. Like: > > > I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? > > What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools > we could use? The engine is linked in the footer: https://askbot.com/ I'm not sure how much of it is reusable but it claims to be able to do some of the things I think you're asking for except it doesn't explicitly mention deleting comments/questions/etc. -- Ian Cordasco __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] Troubleshooting and ask.openstack.org
Recently, the Keystone team started brainstormin a troubleshooting document. While we could, eventually put this into the Keystone repo, it makes sense to also be gathering troubleshooting ideas from the community at large. How do we do this? I think we've had a long enough run with the ask.openstack.org website to determine if it is really useful, and if it needs an update. I know we getting nuked on the Wiki. What I would like to be able to generate is Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) page, but as a living document. I think that ask.openstack.org is the right forum for this, but we need some more help: It seems to me that keystone Core should be able to moderate Keystone questions on the site. That means that they should be able to remove old dead ones, remove things tagged as Keystone that do not apply and so on. I would assume the same is true for Nova, Glance, Trove, Mistral and all the rest. We need some better top level interface than just the tags, though. Ideally we would have a page where someone lands when troubleshooting keystone with a series of questions and links to the discussion pages for that question. Like: I get an error that says "cannot authenticate" what do I do? What is the Engine behind "ask.openstack.org?" does it have other tools we could use? __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
