[openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead

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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Steve Martinelli
This is hardly a development related question.


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Aryeh Friedman  wrote
on 08/25/2014 12:08:50 PM:

> From: Aryeh Friedman 
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List
(not for usage questions)" 
> , 
> Date: 08/25/2014 12:12 PM
> Subject: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using
OpenStack mean to 
> OS's future
> 
> http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-
> leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead
> 
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Jay Pipes

On 08/25/2014 12:08 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:

http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead


Would you mind please not posting to the developer's mailing list 
inflammatory random web pages?


Thanks,
-jay


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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/25/2014 12:29 PM, Jay Pipes wrote:
> On 08/25/2014 12:08 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead
>>
> 
> Would you mind please not posting to the developer's mailing list
> inflammatory random web pages?
> 
> Thanks,
> -jay
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As well, please keep in mind that OS means operating system. It is not
an acronym for OpenStack.

Readers who don't know the difference will believe your usage is correct
and follow your incorrect example.

Thank you,
Anita.

http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/043159.html

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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
1. Sorry wrong list
2. Your answers just confirm NASA was right


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Steve Martinelli 
wrote:

> This is hardly a development related question.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Steve Martinelli*
> Software Developer - OpenStack
> Keystone Core Member
> --
>  *Phone:* 1-905-413-2851
> * E-mail:* *steve...@ca.ibm.com* 
> 8200 Warden Ave
> Markham, ON L6G 1C7
> Canada
>
>
>
> Aryeh Friedman  wrote on 08/25/2014 12:08:50 PM:
>
> > From: Aryeh Friedman 
> > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> > ,
> > Date: 08/25/2014 12:12 PM
> > Subject: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to
> > OS's future
> >
> > http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-
>
> > leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead
> >
> > --
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> <http://www.petitecloud.org/>
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Endre Karlson
1. If you're wanting to start a fire you need to somewhere else then a
development mailing list.
2. Get your facts together, much of what you're writing on Quota as many
has pointed out is totally wrong.

Also what Anita noted earlier about OS != OpenStack in that sense.

Please keep topics like this off the ML.

Regards
Endre



2014-08-25 18:48 GMT+02:00 Aryeh Friedman :

> 1. Sorry wrong list
> 2. Your answers just confirm NASA was right
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Steve Martinelli 
> wrote:
>
>> This is hardly a development related question.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Steve Martinelli*
>> Software Developer - OpenStack
>> Keystone Core Member
>> --
>>  *Phone:* 1-905-413-2851
>> * E-mail:* *steve...@ca.ibm.com* 
>> 8200 Warden Ave
>> Markham, ON L6G 1C7
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> Aryeh Friedman  wrote on 08/25/2014 12:08:50
>> PM:
>>
>> > From: Aryeh Friedman 
>> > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>> > ,
>> > Date: 08/25/2014 12:12 PM
>> > Subject: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to
>> > OS's future
>> >
>> > http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-
>>
>> > leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead
>> >
>> > --
>> > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
>> <http://www.petitecloud.org/>
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the
second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding
members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use it's
name)


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Endre Karlson 
wrote:

> 1. If you're wanting to start a fire you need to somewhere else then a
> development mailing list.
> 2. Get your facts together, much of what you're writing on Quota as many
> has pointed out is totally wrong.
>
> Also what Anita noted earlier about OS != OpenStack in that sense.
>
> Please keep topics like this off the ML.
>
> Regards
> Endre
>
>
>
> 2014-08-25 18:48 GMT+02:00 Aryeh Friedman :
>
> 1. Sorry wrong list
>> 2. Your answers just confirm NASA was right
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Steve Martinelli 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is hardly a development related question.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> *Steve Martinelli*
>>> Software Developer - OpenStack
>>> Keystone Core Member
>>> --
>>>  *Phone:* 1-905-413-2851
>>> * E-mail:* *steve...@ca.ibm.com* 
>>> 8200 Warden Ave
>>> Markham, ON L6G 1C7
>>> Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aryeh Friedman  wrote on 08/25/2014 12:08:50
>>> PM:
>>>
>>> > From: Aryeh Friedman 
>>> > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>>> > ,
>>> > Date: 08/25/2014 12:12 PM
>>> > Subject: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to
>>> > OS's future
>>> >
>>> > http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-
>>>
>>> >
>>> leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
>>> <http://www.petitecloud.org/>
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Ian Wells
On 25 August 2014 10:34, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:

> Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the
> second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding
> members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use it's
> name)
>

You appear to be trolling, and throwing around amazingly easy-to-disprove
'factoids', in an inappropriate forum, in order to drum up support for your
own competing open source cloud platform.  Please stop.

Your time would be much better spent improving your platform rather than
coming up with frankly bizarre criticism of the competitors.
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
If I was doing that then I would be promoting the platform by name (which I
am not). I was just pointing out in our own internal ananylis OS came
in dead last among all the open source IaaS/PaaS's (the current version of
mine is not #1 btw)


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Ian Wells  wrote:

> On 25 August 2014 10:34, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:
>
>> Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled
>> the second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the
>> founding members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still
>> use it's name)
>>
>
> You appear to be trolling, and throwing around amazingly easy-to-disprove
> 'factoids', in an inappropriate forum, in order to drum up support for your
> own competing open source cloud platform.  Please stop.
>
> Your time would be much better spent improving your platform rather than
> coming up with frankly bizarre criticism of the competitors.
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Joshua Harlow
So to see if we can get something useful from this thread.

What was your internal analysis, can it be published? Even negative analysis is 
useful to make openstack better...

It'd be nice to have some details on what you found, what u didn't find, so 
that we can all improve...

After all that is what it's all about.

-Josh

On Aug 25, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:

> If I was doing that then I would be promoting the platform by name (which I 
> am not). I was just pointing out in our own internal ananylis OS came in 
> dead last among all the open source IaaS/PaaS's (the current version of mine 
> is not #1 btw)
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Ian Wells  wrote:
> On 25 August 2014 10:34, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:
> Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the 
> second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding 
> members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use it's 
> name)
> 
> You appear to be trolling, and throwing around amazingly easy-to-disprove 
> 'factoids', in an inappropriate forum, in order to drum up support for your 
> own competing open source cloud platform.  Please stop.
> 
> Your time would be much better spent improving your platform rather than 
> coming up with frankly bizarre criticism of the competitors.
> -- 
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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/25/2014 02:36 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
> So to see if we can get something useful from this thread.

not on this mailing list. Move it somewhere else: this thread is off
topic here.

/stef

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Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-26 Thread James Penick
Don't feed the troll. :)
 
:)=


On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:39 PM, Joshua Harlow  wrote:
 


So to see if we can get something useful from this thread.

What was your internal analysis, can it be published? Even negative analysis is 
useful to make openstack better...

It'd be nice to have some details on what you found, what u didn't find, so 
that we can all improve...

After all that is what it's all about.

-Josh


On Aug 25, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:

If I was doing that then I would be promoting the platform by name (which I am 
not). I was just pointing out in our own internal ananylis OS came in dead 
last among all the open source IaaS/PaaS's (the current version of mine is not 
#1 btw)
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Ian Wells  wrote:
>
>On 25 August 2014 10:34, Aryeh Friedman  wrote:
>>
>>Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the 
>>second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding 
>>members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use it's 
>>name)
>>>
>>
>>
>>You appear to be trolling, and throwing around amazingly easy-to-disprove 
>>'factoids', in an inappropriate forum, in order to drum up support for your 
>>own competing open source cloud platform.  Please stop.
>>
>>Your time would be much better spent improving your platform rather than 
>>coming up with frankly bizarre criticism of the competitors.
>>-- 
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