Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Erik Bergenholtz
Travis,

Sounds like your environment should work fine. There are no special 
requirements beyond Grizzly/Havanna. Following the installation guides: 
https://savanna.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ is relatively straight forward. If 
you are using neutron networking, you will need to rely on public IPs until the 
we complete an enhancement for working around this limitation.

Erik


On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Tripp, Travis S travis.tr...@hp.com wrote:

 Hello Savanna team,
  
 I’ve just skimmed through the online documentation and I’m very interested in 
 this project. We have a grizzly environment with all the latest patches as 
 well as several Havana backports applied. We are are doing bare metal 
 provisioning through Nova.  It is limited to flat networking.
  
 Would Savanna work in this environment?  What are the requirements?  What are 
 the minimum set of API calls that need to supported (for example, we can’t 
 support snapshots)?
  
 Thank you,
 Travis
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Hello Travis,

We didn't researched Savanna on bare metal, though we considered it some
time ago. I know little of bare metal provisioning, so I am rather unsure
what problems you might experience.

My main concern are images: does bare metal provisioning work with qcow2
images? Vanilla plugin (which installs Vanilla Apache Hadoop) requires a
pre-built Linux images with Hadoop, so if qcow2 does not work for bare
metal, you will need to somehow build images in required format. On the
other hand HDP plugin (which installs Hortonworks Data Platform), does not
require pre-built images, but works only on Red Hat OSes, as far as I know.

Another concern: does bare metal support cloud-init? Savanna relies on it
and reimplementing that functionality some other way might take some time.

As for your concern on which API calls Savanna makes: it is a pretty small
list of requests. Mainly authentication with keystone, basic operations
with VMs via nova (create, list, terminate), basic operations with images
(list, set/get attributes). Snapshots are not used. That is for basic
functionality. Other than that, some features might require additional API
calls. For instance Cinder support naturally requires calls for volume
create/list/delete.

Thanks,

Dmitry



2013/10/25 Tripp, Travis S travis.tr...@hp.com

  Hello Savanna team,

 ** **

 I’ve just skimmed through the online documentation and I’m very interested
 in this project. We have a grizzly environment with all the latest patches
 as well as several Havana backports applied. We are are doing bare metal
 provisioning through Nova.  It is limited to flat networking.

 ** **

 Would Savanna work in this environment?  What are the requirements?  What
 are the minimum set of API calls that need to supported (for example, we
 can’t support snapshots)?

 ** **

 Thank you,

 Travis

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Monty Taylor


On 10/25/2013 09:22 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote:
 Hello Travis,
 
 We didn't researched Savanna on bare metal, though we considered it some
 time ago. I know little of bare metal provisioning, so I am rather
 unsure what problems you might experience.
 
 My main concern are images: does bare metal provisioning work with qcow2
 images? Vanilla plugin (which installs Vanilla Apache Hadoop) requires a
 pre-built Linux images with Hadoop, so if qcow2 does not work for bare
 metal, you will need to somehow build images in required format.. On the
 other hand HDP plugin (which installs Hortonworks Data Platform), does
 not require pre-built images, but works only on Red Hat OSes, as far as
 I know.

Absolutely works with qcow2 images. We should start a conversation about
savana and diskimage-builder too, btw.

 Another concern: does bare metal support cloud-init? Savanna relies on
 it and reimplementing that functionality some other way might take some
 time.

Absolutely. (as long as the image has cloud-init in it of course)

 As for your concern on which API calls Savanna makes: it is a pretty
 small list of requests. Mainly authentication with keystone, basic
 operations with VMs via nova (create, list, terminate), basic operations
 with images (list, set/get attributes). Snapshots are not used. That is
 for basic functionality. Other than that, some features might require
 additional API calls. For instance Cinder support naturally requires
 calls for volume create/list/delete.

I'm excited to see an exploration of savana on nova-baremetal.

 
 2013/10/25 Tripp, Travis S travis.tr...@hp.com
 mailto:travis..tr...@hp.com
 
 Hello Savanna team,
 
 __ __
 
 I’ve just skimmed through the online documentation and I’m very
 interested in this project. We have a grizzly environment with all
 the latest patches as well as several Havana backports applied. We
 are are doing bare metal provisioning through Nova.  It is limited
 to flat networking.
 
 __ __
 
 Would Savanna work in this environment?  What are the requirements? 
 What are the minimum set of API calls that need to supported (for
 example, we can’t support snapshots)?
 
 __ __
 
 Thank you,
 
 Travis
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Erik Bergenholtz

On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov dmescherya...@mirantis.com 
wrote:

 Hello Travis,
 
 We didn't researched Savanna on bare metal, though we considered it some time 
 ago. I know little of bare metal provisioning, so I am rather unsure what 
 problems you might experience.
 
 My main concern are images: does bare metal provisioning work with qcow2 
 images? Vanilla plugin (which installs Vanilla Apache Hadoop) requires a 
 pre-built Linux images with Hadoop, so if qcow2 does not work for bare metal, 
 you will need to somehow build images in required format. On the other hand 
 HDP plugin (which installs Hortonworks Data Platform), does not require 
 pre-built images, but works only on Red Hat OSes, as far as I know.
HDP Plugin will support SUSE, Debian in the future, but for now HDP only 
provides pre-built CentOS images.
 
 Another concern: does bare metal support cloud-init? Savanna relies on it and 
 reimplementing that functionality some other way might take some time.
 
 As for your concern on which API calls Savanna makes: it is a pretty small 
 list of requests. Mainly authentication with keystone, basic operations with 
 VMs via nova (create, list, terminate), basic operations with images (list, 
 set/get attributes). Snapshots are not used. That is for basic functionality. 
 Other than that, some features might require additional API calls. For 
 instance Cinder support naturally requires calls for volume 
 create/list/delete.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dmitry  
 
 
 
 2013/10/25 Tripp, Travis S travis.tr...@hp.com
 Hello Savanna team,
 
  
 
 I’ve just skimmed through the online documentation and I’m very interested in 
 this project. We have a grizzly environment with all the latest patches as 
 well as several Havana backports applied. We are are doing bare metal 
 provisioning through Nova.  It is limited to flat networking.
 
  
 
 Would Savanna work in this environment?  What are the requirements?  What are 
 the minimum set of API calls that need to supported (for example, we can’t 
 support snapshots)?
 
  
 
 Thank you,
 
 Travis
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Savanna] Savanna on Bare Metal and Base Requirements

2013-10-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 26 October 2013 02:30, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:

 Absolutely works with qcow2 images. We should start a conversation about
 savana and diskimage-builder too, btw.

Savanna. Also it already uses diskimage-builder :)

-Rob


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