[Openstack-operators] [Swift] deploying behind apache?

[Adam Lawson]

Hey everyone,

What are the advantages to deploying swift storage and/or proxy services
behind apache versus not? Are there performance improvements that come into
play at scale? Has this been addressed before and are there any conclusions
drawn around these considerations I can read up on?

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[Openstack-operators] Operator Local Patches

[Kris G. Lindgren]

Hello Operators!

During the ops meetup in Palo Alto were we talking about sessions for Tokyo. A 
session that I purposed, that got a bunch of +1's,  was about local patches 
that operators were carrying.  From my experience this is done to either 
implement business logic,  fix assumptions in projects that do not apply to 
your implementation, implement business requirements that are not yet 
implemented in openstack, or fix scale related bugs.  What I would like to do 
is get a working group together to do the following:

1.) Document local patches that operators have (even those that are in gerrit 
right now waiting to be committed upstream)
2.) Figure out commonality in those patches
3.) Either upstream the common fixes to the appropriate projects or figure out 
if a hook can be added to allow people to run their code at that specific point
4.) 
5.) Profit

To start this off, I have documented every patch, along with a description of 
what it does and why we did it (where needed), that GoDaddy is running [1].  
What I am asking is that the operator community please update the etherpad with 
the patches that you are running, so that we have a good starting point for 
discussions in Tokyo and beyond.

[1] - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operator-local-patches
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[Openstack-operators] Cells V1 patches

[Kris G. Lindgren]

Hello all,

The LDT working group is currently trying to collect a list of patches that 
people are carrying to better support Cells V1.  We currently have a list of 
~30 patches[1] that operators who are using cells are running to fix bugs or 
fix broken functionality under cells v1.  If you are running cells and have 
patches, please please please update the etherpad[1].  We realize that work is 
on going to move from cells v1 to cells v2.  However multiple child cells under 
v2 will not be supported until at least 2 release out (1+ years).

What we are trying to do is get a list of patches people have to fix issues/add 
functionality and try to get them either added upstream or added to a common 
repository.  The idea being that we want to make it easier for people who need 
to use Cells v1 until Cell v2 is fully supported.

[1] - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-LDT-cells-patches
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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Matt Jarvis]

I've just started another thread, tagged with [eu] which has a link to an
initial etherpad to start to gather some ideas and information. If everyone
who's interested can take a look and start adding some content, we can get
the wheels turning !

On 18 September 2015 at 14:21, Christian Berendt 
wrote:

> On 09/18/2015 11:55 AM, Tom Fifield wrote:
>
>> I'm not a "US folk", but I'd like to help organise, and probably wander
>> over if you'll have me :) I've also got colleagues that are pretty good
>> at this event planning logistics kind of thing that we can also ask for
>> assistance. Maybe also cash :)
>>
>
> We are also interested in joining a European Ops meetup and I can help
> with the organization.
>
> Christian.
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[Openstack-operators] [eu] European Operators Meetup

[Matt Jarvis]

OK, let's try this with tags. I've created an initial etherpad
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/european-ops-meetup-planning to start to
gather some information. This is a first pass and obviously not definitive,
so feel free to add sections or suggestions.

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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Christian Berendt]

On 09/18/2015 11:55 AM, Tom Fifield wrote:

I'm not a "US folk", but I'd like to help organise, and probably wander
over if you'll have me :) I've also got colleagues that are pretty good
at this event planning logistics kind of thing that we can also ask for
assistance. Maybe also cash :)


We are also interested in joining a European Ops meetup and I can help 
with the organization.


Christian.

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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Mariano Cunietti]

Ciao Matt, nice to meet you again!
Italians with ECS, www.entercloudsuite.com 
onboard!

FYI, together with Numergy (Alexandre Steiner is CC’ed here), KPN, Gigas, 
Belgacom/Proximus, Portugal Telecom we are participating in the CTA, Cloud Team 
Alliance, and we are already setting up 
meetings with the main Openstack (and not) players in Europe.
The goal is not only to set up a technology-driven group, but to create an 
ecosystem to work with and to carve out a real european offer. Which may be: 
not centralized, but distributed and respectful of #diversity (and hopefully as 
less bureaucratic as possible…). We think this could be a very interesting 
approach and very peculiar, compared to the "big guys”. We could end up with 
something that is a real singularity in the cloud scene.
Needless to say, Openstack would play a great role in building this kind of 
infrastructure.  Obviously, federation is something we need to address also on 
a technology and/or architecture standpoint.

I suggest join the efforts and set a date for a first meeting al together, and 
know each other. How about it? BTW, Tokyo may be an option: I am going.
The sooner we book agendas and flights, the better.

Ciao

Mariano


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On 18 Sep 2015, at 14:24, Salman Toor 
mailto:salman.t...@it.uu.se>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

From the platform of SNIC (Swedish National Infrastructure for Computing), we 
are in the process of building a national level Cloud facility for research and 
academic activities in Sweden.

I can contribute our experiences and requirements from SNIC side.

Regards..
Salman.

PhD, Scientific Computing
Researcher, IT Department,
Uppsala University.
Senior Cloud Architect,
SNIC.
Cloud Application Expert,
UPPMAX.
Visiting Researcher,
Helsinki Institute of Physics (HIP).
salman.t...@it.uu.se
http://www.it.uu.se/katalog/salto690

On 18 Sep 2015, at 11:56, Adam Huffman 
mailto:adam.huff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would be very keen to attend an Operators' meeting in Europe,
probably along with a lot of other UK academic cloud people.

Cheers,
Adam

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Matt Van Winkle 
mailto:mvanw...@rackspace.com>> wrote:
We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing of this, I
might be able to get some of them there as well.  With the next full summit
being in North America, it makes a lot of sense to place the next Ops meet
up in a different global location.  There has been discussion of this before
to increase the chances of Operators being able to attend some portion of
the events throughout the year by distributing their locations.

Thanks!
VW

From: Tim Bell mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch>>
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
To: Matt Jarvis 
mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>>, Neil 
Jerram
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
Cc: 
"openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org"
mailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>>

Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to come along
too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.



Tim



From: Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk]
Sent: 17 September 2015 15:09
To: Neil Jerram mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
Cc: 
openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators



Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first :)



On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram 
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
wrote:

Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project (Calico) is
always keen to understand more about operator interests and requirements, so
I'd be very happy to be there.

   Neil




On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:

I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and hopefully gather
a few more interested parties, then take the conversation off-list and see
what the consensus is from those who've expressed an interest about how we
might move this forward ?



On 17 September 2015 at 13:04, Tom Fifield 
mailt

Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Salman Toor]

Hi everyone,

From the platform of SNIC (Swedish National Infrastructure for Computing), we 
are in the process of building a national level Cloud facility for research and 
academic activities in Sweden.

I can contribute our experiences and requirements from SNIC side.

Regards..
Salman.

PhD, Scientific Computing
Researcher, IT Department,
Uppsala University.
Senior Cloud Architect,
SNIC.
Cloud Application Expert,
UPPMAX.
Visiting Researcher,
Helsinki Institute of Physics (HIP).
salman.t...@it.uu.se
http://www.it.uu.se/katalog/salto690

On 18 Sep 2015, at 11:56, Adam Huffman 
mailto:adam.huff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I would be very keen to attend an Operators' meeting in Europe,
probably along with a lot of other UK academic cloud people.

Cheers,
Adam

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Matt Van Winkle 
mailto:mvanw...@rackspace.com>> wrote:
We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing of this, I
might be able to get some of them there as well.  With the next full summit
being in North America, it makes a lot of sense to place the next Ops meet
up in a different global location.  There has been discussion of this before
to increase the chances of Operators being able to attend some portion of
the events throughout the year by distributing their locations.

Thanks!
VW

From: Tim Bell mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch>>
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
To: Matt Jarvis 
mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>>, Neil 
Jerram
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
Cc: 
"openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org"
mailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>>

Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to come along
too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.



Tim



From: Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk]
Sent: 17 September 2015 15:09
To: Neil Jerram mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
Cc: 
openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators



Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first :)



On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram 
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
wrote:

Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project (Calico) is
always keen to understand more about operator interests and requirements, so
I'd be very happy to be there.

   Neil




On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:

I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and hopefully gather
a few more interested parties, then take the conversation off-list and see
what the consensus is from those who've expressed an interest about how we
might move this forward ?



On 17 September 2015 at 13:04, Tom Fifield 
mailto:t...@openstack.org>> wrote:

Cool :)

When are you guys free?

On 17/09/15 17:42, Paulo Espada Pereira wrote:

Very good idea!
Count with me.



*Paulo Pereira*

Senior Systems Operations Manager, FlowCloud

Imagination Technologies Limited

t: +44 (0)1923 260511

www.imgtec.com 



*From:* matthias.brit...@telekom.de 
[matthias.brit...@telekom.de]
*Sent:* 17 September 2015 10:09
*To:* 
openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
*Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

I would be interested as well.

Best regards,   Matthias

*Von:*Olivier Cant [mailto:olivier.c...@exxoss.com]
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 17. September 2015 10:09
*An:* 
openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
*Betreff:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

Also very intrested.

Olivier

On 17/09/15S38 10:02, Salman Toor wrote:

   Hi,

   Why Not!

   I think its a great Idea. I want to join.

   Regards..

   Salman

   PhD, Scientific Computing
   Researcher, IT Department,
   Uppsala University.
   Cloud Application Expert,
   UPPMAX.
   Visiting Researcher,
   Helsinki Institute of Physics (HIP).
   salman.t...@it.uu.se 

   http://www.it.uu.se/katalog/salto690

   On 17 Sep 2015, at 09:52, Matt Jarvis
   mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>
   > wrote:

   Hi All

   Don't know how many European folks are on this list, but just
   wondering if there's any interest in a European Operators meet up
?

   Matt

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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Matt Jarvis]

Thanks for that Tom - more than welcome ! I'll take a look at the wiki, and
try to get an etherpad up where we can start doing some initial planning.
It sounds like tags on this ML are the way to go.

On 18 September 2015 at 10:55, Tom Fifield  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Foundation person here, at your service :)
>
> Most everything we know about the ops meetups is on the wiki @:
>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups
>
> including some data around those questions around logistics, structure, etc
>
> I'm not a "US folk", but I'd like to help organise, and probably wander
> over if you'll have me :) I've also got colleagues that are pretty good at
> this event planning logistics kind of thing that we can also ask for
> assistance. Maybe also cash :)
>
> As for the ML ... it seems like there is a great deal of interest on this
> mailing list in terms of how these kinds of events are run, based on the
> threads we had a few months back. We could perhaps start here and see how
> we go? I'm thinking that if there is a new ML justified by the traffic
> levels, it might be better to be named around organising ops events in
> general, rather than along geographical lines.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 18/09/15 15:43, Matt Jarvis wrote:
>
>> So judging from the responses so far, I'd say there is an appetite for
>> doing this. There are also a lot of folks who don't seem to be on this
>> list including most of the other European commercial providers so I've
>> started reaching out to the contacts I have there, and to the other
>> fairly large scale private operators we know in the UK and Europe. It
>> would be great if others could do the same around any contacts they have
>> in the European OpenStack community who may have missed this thread.
>>
>> So next steps - there's obviously a whole bunch of discussion to be had
>> around logistics, format, organisation etc. which is probably not best
>> placed on this list. Perhaps we can get an openstack-euoperators list on
>> lists.openstack.org  set up ? Can someone
>> from the Foundation organise that for us ? It would also be great to
>> have some input from the US folks to guide us on format and structure as
>> we try and move this forward.
>>
>> Does that sound like a sensible first step ?
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 17 September 2015 at 18:26, Alessandro Pilotti
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> We (Cloudbase Solutions) have our HQ in Europe (Romania), so we’d be
>> happy to take part in this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alessandro
>>
>>
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:26, Matt Van Winkle >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing
>>> of this, I  might be able to get some of them there as well.  With
>>> the next full summit being in North America, it makes a lot of
>>> sense to place the next Ops meet up in a different global
>>> location.  There has been discussion of this before to increase
>>> the chances of Operators being able to attend some portion of the
>>> events throughout the year by distributing their locations.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> VW
>>>
>>> From:Tim Bell mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch>>
>>> Date:Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
>>> To:Matt Jarvis >> >, Neil Jerram
>>> mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
>>> Cc:"openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
>>> "
>>> >> >
>>> Subject:Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>>>
>>> We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to
 come along too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.
 __ __
 Tim
 __ __
 *From:*Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk]
 *Sent:*17 September 2015 15:09
 *To:*Neil Jerram >>> >
 *Cc:*openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
 
 *Subject:*Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
 __ __
 Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first
 :)
 __ __
 On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram
 mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
 wrote:

> Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project
> (Calico) is always keen to understand more about operator
> interests and requirements, so I'd be very happy to be there.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and
>> hopefully gather a few more interested parties, then take the
>> conversation off-list and see what the consensus

Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Adam Huffman]

I would be very keen to attend an Operators' meeting in Europe,
probably along with a lot of other UK academic cloud people.

Cheers,
Adam

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Matt Van Winkle  wrote:
> We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing of this, I
> might be able to get some of them there as well.  With the next full summit
> being in North America, it makes a lot of sense to place the next Ops meet
> up in a different global location.  There has been discussion of this before
> to increase the chances of Operators being able to attend some portion of
> the events throughout the year by distributing their locations.
>
> Thanks!
> VW
>
> From: Tim Bell 
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
> To: Matt Jarvis , Neil Jerram
> 
> Cc: "openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org"
> 
>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>
> We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to come along
> too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> From: Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk]
> Sent: 17 September 2015 15:09
> To: Neil Jerram 
> Cc: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>
>
>
> Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first :)
>
>
>
> On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram 
> wrote:
>
> Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project (Calico) is
> always keen to understand more about operator interests and requirements, so
> I'd be very happy to be there.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:
>
> I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and hopefully gather
> a few more interested parties, then take the conversation off-list and see
> what the consensus is from those who've expressed an interest about how we
> might move this forward ?
>
>
>
> On 17 September 2015 at 13:04, Tom Fifield  wrote:
>
> Cool :)
>
> When are you guys free?
>
> On 17/09/15 17:42, Paulo Espada Pereira wrote:
>>
>> Very good idea!
>> Count with me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Paulo Pereira*
>>
>> Senior Systems Operations Manager, FlowCloud
>>
>> Imagination Technologies Limited
>>
>> t: +44 (0)1923 260511
>>
>> www.imgtec.com 
>>
>>
>> 
>> *From:* matthias.brit...@telekom.de [matthias.brit...@telekom.de]
>> *Sent:* 17 September 2015 10:09
>> *To:* openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>>
>> I would be interested as well.
>>
>> Best regards,   Matthias
>>
>> *Von:*Olivier Cant [mailto:olivier.c...@exxoss.com]
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 17. September 2015 10:09
>> *An:* openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>>
>> Also very intrested.
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 17/09/15S38 10:02, Salman Toor wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Why Not!
>>
>> I think its a great Idea. I want to join.
>>
>> Regards..
>>
>> Salman
>>
>> PhD, Scientific Computing
>> Researcher, IT Department,
>> Uppsala University.
>> Cloud Application Expert,
>> UPPMAX.
>> Visiting Researcher,
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>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 09:52, Matt Jarvis
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>> Hi All
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>> Don't know how many European folks are on this list, but just
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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Tom Fifield]

Hi,

Foundation person here, at your service :)

Most everything we know about the ops meetups is on the wiki @:

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups

including some data around those questions around logistics, structure, etc

I'm not a "US folk", but I'd like to help organise, and probably wander 
over if you'll have me :) I've also got colleagues that are pretty good 
at this event planning logistics kind of thing that we can also ask for 
assistance. Maybe also cash :)


As for the ML ... it seems like there is a great deal of interest on 
this mailing list in terms of how these kinds of events are run, based 
on the threads we had a few months back. We could perhaps start here and 
see how we go? I'm thinking that if there is a new ML justified by the 
traffic levels, it might be better to be named around organising ops 
events in general, rather than along geographical lines.



Regards,


Tom


On 18/09/15 15:43, Matt Jarvis wrote:

So judging from the responses so far, I'd say there is an appetite for
doing this. There are also a lot of folks who don't seem to be on this
list including most of the other European commercial providers so I've
started reaching out to the contacts I have there, and to the other
fairly large scale private operators we know in the UK and Europe. It
would be great if others could do the same around any contacts they have
in the European OpenStack community who may have missed this thread.

So next steps - there's obviously a whole bunch of discussion to be had
around logistics, format, organisation etc. which is probably not best
placed on this list. Perhaps we can get an openstack-euoperators list on
lists.openstack.org  set up ? Can someone
from the Foundation organise that for us ? It would also be great to
have some input from the US folks to guide us on format and structure as
we try and move this forward.

Does that sound like a sensible first step ?

Matt

On 17 September 2015 at 18:26, Alessandro Pilotti
mailto:apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com>> wrote:

We (Cloudbase Solutions) have our HQ in Europe (Romania), so we’d be
happy to take part in this.

Thanks,

Alessandro



On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:26, Matt Van Winkle mailto:mvanw...@rackspace.com>> wrote:

We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing
of this, I  might be able to get some of them there as well.  With
the next full summit being in North America, it makes a lot of
sense to place the next Ops meet up in a different global
location.  There has been discussion of this before to increase
the chances of Operators being able to attend some portion of the
events throughout the year by distributing their locations.

Thanks!
VW

From:Tim Bell mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch>>
Date:Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
To:Matt Jarvis mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk>>, Neil Jerram
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
Cc:"openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
"
mailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>>
Subject:Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators


We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to
come along too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.
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__ __
*From:*Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk]
*Sent:*17 September 2015 15:09
*To:*Neil Jerram mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
*Cc:*openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org

*Subject:*Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
__ __
Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first
:)
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On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram
mailto:neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>>
wrote:

Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project
(Calico) is always keen to understand more about operator
interests and requirements, so I'd be very happy to be there.

Neil



On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:

I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and
hopefully gather a few more interested parties, then take the
conversation off-list and see what the consensus is from those
who've expressed an interest about how we might move this
forward ? 
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On 17 September 2015 at 13:04, Tom Fifield mailto:t...@openstack.org>> wrote:

Cool :)

When are you guys free?

On 17/09/15 17:42, Paulo Espada Pereira wrote:
>
> Very good idea!
> Count with me.
>
>
>
> *Paulo Pereira*
>
> Senior Systems Operations Manager, FlowCloud
>
> Imagination Technologies Limited
>
> t:+44 (0)1923 260511 
>
>www.imgtec.com 
>
>
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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Neil Jerram]

On 18/09/15 09:13, gustavo panizzo (gfa) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 08:43:16 +0100, Matt Jarvis wrote:
>> So judging from the responses so far, I'd say there is an appetite for
>> doing this. There are also a lot of folks who don't seem to be on this list
>> including most of the other European commercial providers so I've started
>> reaching out to the contacts I have there, and to the other fairly large
>> scale private operators we know in the UK and Europe. It would be great if
>> others could do the same around any contacts they have in the European
>> OpenStack community who may have missed this thread.
>>
>> So next steps - there's obviously a whole bunch of discussion to be had
>> around logistics, format, organisation etc. which is probably not best
>> placed on this list. Perhaps we can get an openstack-euoperators list on
>> lists.openstack.org set up ? Can someone from the Foundation organise that
> I'm not an european op, but I just want to say please do not split
> the list. just use a tag like [eu], [europe], etc to highlight that the emails
> are about european ops meeting organization.
>
> If we split the list we split the knowledge too, people will have to
> check the ops and eu-ops list looking for anwsers.
>
> my 0.02¥
>
> thanks!
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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[gustavo panizzo (gfa)]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 08:43:16 +0100, Matt Jarvis wrote:
> So judging from the responses so far, I'd say there is an appetite for
> doing this. There are also a lot of folks who don't seem to be on this list
> including most of the other European commercial providers so I've started
> reaching out to the contacts I have there, and to the other fairly large
> scale private operators we know in the UK and Europe. It would be great if
> others could do the same around any contacts they have in the European
> OpenStack community who may have missed this thread.
> 
> So next steps - there's obviously a whole bunch of discussion to be had
> around logistics, format, organisation etc. which is probably not best
> placed on this list. Perhaps we can get an openstack-euoperators list on
> lists.openstack.org set up ? Can someone from the Foundation organise that

I'm not an european op, but I just want to say please do not split
the list. just use a tag like [eu], [europe], etc to highlight that the emails
are about european ops meeting organization.

If we split the list we split the knowledge too, people will have to
check the ops and eu-ops list looking for anwsers.

my 0.02¥

thanks!
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[Openstack-operators] Juno nova-consoleauth stays down

[Alvise Dorigo]

Hi,
I've installed a Juno controller (which is also a network node). After 
configuring all service, I launched all of them, and I haven't found any 
error in the files /var/log/nova/*.
Despite this, the consoleauth seems to be "down", as reported by "nova 
service-list":


[root@controller-01 nova]# nova service-list|grep console
| 12 | nova-consoleauth |  | internal | enabled | down  | 
2015-09-16T12:32:30.00 | -   |


Its log just shows:

2015-09-18 09:40:06.697 5358 AUDIT nova.service [-] Starting consoleauth 
node (version 2014.2.2-1.el7)
2015-09-18 09:40:07.833 5358 INFO oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit 
[req-0ed5c7c0-a499-4afd-a005-a28367342be9 ] Connecting to AMQP server on 
x.y.z.w:5672
2015-09-18 09:40:07.855 5358 INFO oslo.messaging._drivers.impl_rabbit 
[req-0ed5c7c0-a499-4afd-a005-a28367342be9 ] Connected to AMQP server on 
x.y.z.w:5672


(the verbose in the nova.conf is already True).

The command "nova get-vnc-console test novnc" hungs for  long, and when 
it wake back:


DEBUG (shell:803) ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",))
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/shell.py", line 
800, in main

OpenStackComputeShell().main(argv)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/shell.py", line 
730, in main

args.func(self.cs, args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/v1_1/shell.py", 
line 1999, in do_get_vnc_console

data = server.get_vnc_console(args.console_type)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/v1_1/servers.py", 
line 71, in get_vnc_console

return self.manager.get_vnc_console(self, console_type)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/v1_1/servers.py", 
line 662, in get_vnc_console

{'type': console_type})[1]
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/v1_1/servers.py", 
line 1240, in _action

return self.api.client.post(url, body=body)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/client.py", line 
490, in post

return self._cs_request(url, 'POST', **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/client.py", line 
465, in _cs_request

resp, body = self._time_request(url, method, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/client.py", line 
439, in _time_request

resp, body = self.request(url, method, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/novaclient/client.py", line 
410, in request

**kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 50, in 
request

response = session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 
464, in request

resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 
576, in send

r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 
415, in send

raise ConnectionError(err, request=request)
ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",))
ERROR (ConnectionError): ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",))

Could someone suggest more debugging I could perform ?

thanks,

   Alvise

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Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators

[Matt Jarvis]

So judging from the responses so far, I'd say there is an appetite for
doing this. There are also a lot of folks who don't seem to be on this list
including most of the other European commercial providers so I've started
reaching out to the contacts I have there, and to the other fairly large
scale private operators we know in the UK and Europe. It would be great if
others could do the same around any contacts they have in the European
OpenStack community who may have missed this thread.

So next steps - there's obviously a whole bunch of discussion to be had
around logistics, format, organisation etc. which is probably not best
placed on this list. Perhaps we can get an openstack-euoperators list on
lists.openstack.org set up ? Can someone from the Foundation organise that
for us ? It would also be great to have some input from the US folks to
guide us on format and structure as we try and move this forward.

Does that sound like a sensible first step ?

Matt

On 17 September 2015 at 18:26, Alessandro Pilotti <
apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com> wrote:

> We (Cloudbase Solutions) have our HQ in Europe (Romania), so we’d be happy
> to take part in this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alessandro
>
>
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:26, Matt Van Winkle  wrote:
>
> We have some Operations folks in London.  Depending on the timing of this,
> I  might be able to get some of them there as well.  With the next full
> summit being in North America, it makes a lot of sense to place the next
> Ops meet up in a different global location.  There has been discussion of
> this before to increase the chances of Operators being able to attend some
> portion of the events throughout the year by distributing their locations.
>
> Thanks!
> VW
>
> From: Tim Bell 
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:05 AM
> To: Matt Jarvis , Neil Jerram <
> neil.jer...@metaswitch.com>
> Cc: "openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org" <
> openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>
> We could probably find one or more of the CERN operations team to come
> along too from the 3 OpenStack clouds we’ve got here.
>
> Tim
>
> *From:* Matt Jarvis [mailto:matt.jar...@datacentred.co.uk
> ]
> *Sent:* 17 September 2015 15:09
> *To:* Neil Jerram 
> *Cc:* openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
>
> Don't see why not. Let's see what the overall interest is first :)
>
> On 17 September 2015 at 13:41, Neil Jerram 
> wrote:
>
> Are Europe-based developers/vendors welcome too?  My project (Calico) is
> always keen to understand more about operator interests and requirements,
> so I'd be very happy to be there.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> On 17/09/15 13:17, Matt Jarvis wrote:
>
> I'm thinking we'll let this thread run for a day or so and hopefully
> gather a few more interested parties, then take the conversation off-list
> and see what the consensus is from those who've expressed an interest about
> how we might move this forward ?
>
> On 17 September 2015 at 13:04, Tom Fifield  wrote:
>
> Cool :)
>
> When are you guys free?
>
> On 17/09/15 17:42, Paulo Espada Pereira wrote:
> >
> > Very good idea!
> > Count with me.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Paulo Pereira*
> >
> > Senior Systems Operations Manager, FlowCloud
> >
> > Imagination Technologies Limited
> >
> > t: +44 (0)1923 260511
> >
> > www.imgtec.com 
> >
> >
> > 
> > *From:* matthias.brit...@telekom.de [matthias.brit...@telekom.de]
> > *Sent:* 17 September 2015 10:09
> > *To:* openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
> >
> > I would be interested as well.
> >
> > Best regards,   Matthias
> >
> > *Von:*Olivier Cant [mailto:olivier.c...@exxoss.com]
> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 17. September 2015 10:09
> > *An:* openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org
> > *Betreff:* Re: [Openstack-operators] European Operators
> >
> > Also very intrested.
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > On 17/09/15S38 10:02, Salman Toor wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why Not!
> >
> > I think its a great Idea. I want to join.
> >
> > Regards..
> >
> > Salman
> >
> > PhD, Scientific Computing
> > Researcher, IT Department,
> > Uppsala University.
> > Cloud Application Expert,
> > UPPMAX.
> > Visiting Researcher,
> > Helsinki Institute of Physics (HIP).
> > salman.t...@it.uu.se 
> > http://www.it.uu.se/katalog/salto690
> >
> > On 17 Sep 2015, at 09:52, Matt Jarvis
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Don't know how many European folks are on this list, but just
> > wondering if there's any interest in a European Operators meet
> up ?
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > --
> >
> > Matt Jarvis
> >
> > Head of Cloud Computing
> > DataCentred
>

Re: [Openstack-operators] Cinder Juno to Kilo upgrade and DB encodings

[Arne Wiebalck]

On 17 Sep 2015, at 18:11, Mathieu Gagné 
mailto:mga...@internap.com>> wrote:

On 2015-09-17 4:06 AM, Arne Wiebalck wrote:
Hi,

During our Cinder upgrade on CentOS7 from Juno to Kilo, we ran into this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1455726

As there is no fix available from what I see, what we came up with as a 
“solution”
is to explicitly set the character and the collation in all existing tables in 
the database
before the upgrade:

—>
alter database cinder CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
SET foreign_key_checks = 0;
ALTER TABLE `backups` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `cgsnapshots` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `consistencygroups` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `encryption` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `iscsi_targets` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `migrate_version` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `quality_of_service_specs` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `quota_classes` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `quota_usages` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `quotas` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `reservations` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `services` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `snapshot_metadata` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `snapshots` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `transfers` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volume_admin_metadata` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volume_glance_metadata` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volume_metadata` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volume_type_extra_specs` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volume_types` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE 
utf8_unicode_ci;
ALTER TABLE `volumes` CONVERT TO CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci;
SET foreign_key_checks = 1;
<—

Note that in our case the databases default character set was already utf8 
everywhere, while the collation
was utf8_general_ci. With that conversion the upgrade seems to work fine in our 
tests.

Before we retry the upgrade: do if people here think that this a reasonable 
approach or will this cause
other issues? Are there alternative approaches?


In our case, we ran this command before upgrading:

ALTER DATABASE cinder CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_general_ci;

See this thread about the same problem:
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2015-August/013599.html

And the proposed solution:
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2015-August/013601.html

I suspect that people using Puppet to deploy OpenStack are encountering
this issue due to this change:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175991/

We thought this change wouldn't affect anyone but it looks it does.


Thanks a lot for the pointers, Mathieu. I’ll give that a try.

Cheers,
 Arne

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CERN IT






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